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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2013 - 4:17 PM ET #226

     - Did the tampa thing really happen? How.... Sick that there is no reaction from ANYONE. And bit scary. But this proves exactly my point, people just close their eyes when it comes to matchfixing. They do not want to believe that it is going on, so what is the best way? By letting matchfixing happen, and by closing your eyes. 
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     - Did the tampa thing really happen? How.... Sick that there is no reaction from ANYONE. And bit scary. But this proves exactly my point, people just close their eyes when it comes to matchfixing. They do not want to believe that it is going on, so what is the best way? By letting matchfixing happen, and by closing your eyes. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2013 - 6:36 PM ET #227

    Jackson Jr is the one in jail for corruption thats what the confusion was man these new helmet to helmet rules are the holy grail
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    Jackson Jr is the one in jail for corruption thats what the confusion was man these new helmet to helmet rules are the holy grail
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2013 - 6:38 PM ET #228

    the offender is always half smirking like oops i forgot funny 
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    the offender is always half smirking like oops i forgot funny 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2013 - 7:02 PM ET #229

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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2013 - 7:02 PM ET #230

    27-23 Miami. I will laugh my behind off if this is the final score and they just cover the -3 which were intended to hit in the first place. Especially when considering that Falcons should have TD on the previous down and doesnt even get a field goal to cover this line  Gotta love NFL. 
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    27-23 Miami. I will laugh my behind off if this is the final score and they just cover the -3 which were intended to hit in the first place. Especially when considering that Falcons should have TD on the previous down and doesnt even get a field goal to cover this line  Gotta love NFL. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2013 - 7:03 PM ET #231

    LOOOL. Game over. 
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2013 - 9:20 PM ET #233

    Quote Originally Posted by shababa:

    I haven't commented on a thread in I don't know how long. I don't say much on here just sit back and enjoy the entertainment and try to consume all I need to to beat the book BUT this is a great "debate" so to speak and ill give my 2 cents.....Do i believe some games are fixed? Maybe..... Overall, Vegas is just that good!!!! Been betting for about 15 years and the majority of the time my mentality of betting on a game is that Vegas knows what the outcome is gonna be. Are they gonna be right all the time? F NO!!! BUT the majority of the time!!!!! Is there such thing as "bait" lines? You better freaking bet your behind there is!!!! I've made lots of money on those kind of lines.  If anyone thinks Vegas dont bait you in SOME situations you're an absolute moron!!!! Not every game of course but you gotta do your research and pick the right games and angles to throw down the wood when you get an opportunity.... The way I cap games isn't solely based on what I think Vegas is trying to "make" you bet because it isn't that easy. You gotta do your own research and analysis on numbers, trends, etc etc and pick your spots... In the end, Vegas knows what's going on 75%+ of the time and more times than not the line determines the game. Just gotta see what perspective Vegas is looking at it from


    Great post man. I believe that you're spot on... Bait lines are a great thing to bet against... For me, I really want to let the line tell the story... It's a great thing to incorporate with all of your own personal knowledge... If you evaluate a game and the line just seems noticeably off, bet the opposite.

    We've all done this long enough, we can all pretty much predict what a line will roughly be before they're released... It's a great angle to look out for discrepancies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shababa:

    I haven't commented on a thread in I don't know how long. I don't say much on here just sit back and enjoy the entertainment and try to consume all I need to to beat the book BUT this is a great "debate" so to speak and ill give my 2 cents.....Do i believe some games are fixed? Maybe..... Overall, Vegas is just that good!!!! Been betting for about 15 years and the majority of the time my mentality of betting on a game is that Vegas knows what the outcome is gonna be. Are they gonna be right all the time? F NO!!! BUT the majority of the time!!!!! Is there such thing as "bait" lines? You better freaking bet your behind there is!!!! I've made lots of money on those kind of lines.  If anyone thinks Vegas dont bait you in SOME situations you're an absolute moron!!!! Not every game of course but you gotta do your research and pick the right games and angles to throw down the wood when you get an opportunity.... The way I cap games isn't solely based on what I think Vegas is trying to "make" you bet because it isn't that easy. You gotta do your own research and analysis on numbers, trends, etc etc and pick your spots... In the end, Vegas knows what's going on 75%+ of the time and more times than not the line determines the game. Just gotta see what perspective Vegas is looking at it from


    Great post man. I believe that you're spot on... Bait lines are a great thing to bet against... For me, I really want to let the line tell the story... It's a great thing to incorporate with all of your own personal knowledge... If you evaluate a game and the line just seems noticeably off, bet the opposite.

    We've all done this long enough, we can all pretty much predict what a line will roughly be before they're released... It's a great angle to look out for discrepancies.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2013 - 10:03 PM ET #234

    I don't think I missed one game. Jags score more today then all season.. win cinci win Carolina win browns win and patriots get the blowout when people thought they were lucky to be 2-0 lol I love it 
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    I don't think I missed one game. Jags score more today then all season.. win cinci win Carolina win browns win and patriots get the blowout when people thought they were lucky to be 2-0 lol I love it 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2013 - 12:38 AM ET #235

    Quote Originally Posted by inthetank:

    NEVER HAPPEN!!!....A MEDIOCRE TO "BOTTOM OF THE BARREL TEAM" WILL hardly "ever" WIN 9 IN A ROW....However, it's about the spread....Eh?.....Good teams can win, yet NOT COVER....They win,, the bettor loses, Vegas wins....Here's one I follow a lot----Teams in weeks 2,3 or 4, who are 0-2, 0-3, and hardly ever in week 4, and who are favorites, DO NOT cover at quite a high percentage....If Giants remain favorite, they're 0-2, I'll take Carolina....Regardless now, I',m  still taking Carolina...Also, can't see M. Tomlin and "STEELERS?" losing 3 in a row, especially on PRIME TIME.....Kinda agree on the "BROWNIES!"....Good luck!.....We should start a thread on pro lines...Eh?...Hell, this "sickness" topic got over 10,000 views..Lol!!!!.....Maybe just keep it going!.....What ya think?....My best!!!!

    Yeah if you wanna win 9 in a row with a bottom team you're better off going to the casino and bet 9 Bankers lol... 
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    NEVER HAPPEN!!!....A MEDIOCRE TO "BOTTOM OF THE BARREL TEAM" WILL hardly "ever" WIN 9 IN A ROW....However, it's about the spread....Eh?.....Good teams can win, yet NOT COVER....They win,, the bettor loses, Vegas wins....Here's one I follow a lot----Teams in weeks 2,3 or 4, who are 0-2, 0-3, and hardly ever in week 4, and who are favorites, DO NOT cover at quite a high percentage....If Giants remain favorite, they're 0-2, I'll take Carolina....Regardless now, I',m  still taking Carolina...Also, can't see M. Tomlin and "STEELERS?" losing 3 in a row, especially on PRIME TIME.....Kinda agree on the "BROWNIES!"....Good luck!.....We should start a thread on pro lines...Eh?...Hell, this "sickness" topic got over 10,000 views..Lol!!!!.....Maybe just keep it going!.....What ya think?....My best!!!!

    Yeah if you wanna win 9 in a row with a bottom team you're better off going to the casino and bet 9 Bankers lol... 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2013 - 12:49 AM ET #236

    Quote Originally Posted by thawv:



    Dude...what are you talking about?  Who's buddy works for fox?  Who is the loser in your comment?  Who is the clown?

    Here's some winners for you TURD.. i WENT 8-9..
    BAL
    CAR
    DET
    CIN  HEAVY
    CLE HEAVY
    MIA 
    JET
    SF
    SEA
    THANKS TO SLICK AND A FEW OTHERS I WENT HEAVIER ON CIN AND CLE.. OFF ON CHI-PITT

    NOW HERE"S THE LINK

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=21&sub=101694718

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    Dude...what are you talking about?  Who's buddy works for fox?  Who is the loser in your comment?  Who is the clown?

    Here's some winners for you TURD.. i WENT 8-9..
    BAL
    CAR
    DET
    CIN  HEAVY
    CLE HEAVY
    MIA 
    JET
    SF
    SEA
    THANKS TO SLICK AND A FEW OTHERS I WENT HEAVIER ON CIN AND CLE.. OFF ON CHI-PITT

    NOW HERE"S THE LINK

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=21&sub=101694718

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2013 - 12:53 AM ET #237

    Quote Originally Posted by inthetank:

    HEY HOLDING XYZ!......Right on brother!.....Great write-up!!....And you make valid points.....JOHN Q PUBLIC DOESN'T SEE IT THAT WAY.....My neighbors are die hard NFL fans and travel "EVERY WEEK" TO "EVERY GAME" TO SEE THEIR HOMETOWN TEAM....Wear crazy outfits, don't sleep when their team loses, front yards and homes decorated with teams favorite colors.....TRUE, GULLIBLE SICKOS!...Meanwhile, the guys in the know are laughing their fools off!!.....Eh?....My best to ya!!!!........Check out the www.thefixisin.....I knew a lot of garbage was going down, but there's a ton here!!!!

    You are absolutely right.. You can only help those that want to be helped.. Helping people was never easy.. Mostly harmful... That brian guy makes alot of sense and he has evidence to back it all up.. A little bit too much history though but i get the concept.. THanks man stay in touch
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    HEY HOLDING XYZ!......Right on brother!.....Great write-up!!....And you make valid points.....JOHN Q PUBLIC DOESN'T SEE IT THAT WAY.....My neighbors are die hard NFL fans and travel "EVERY WEEK" TO "EVERY GAME" TO SEE THEIR HOMETOWN TEAM....Wear crazy outfits, don't sleep when their team loses, front yards and homes decorated with teams favorite colors.....TRUE, GULLIBLE SICKOS!...Meanwhile, the guys in the know are laughing their fools off!!.....Eh?....My best to ya!!!!........Check out the www.thefixisin.....I knew a lot of garbage was going down, but there's a ton here!!!!

    You are absolutely right.. You can only help those that want to be helped.. Helping people was never easy.. Mostly harmful... That brian guy makes alot of sense and he has evidence to back it all up.. A little bit too much history though but i get the concept.. THanks man stay in touch
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2013 - 10:42 AM ET #238

    Tonight, if there's a "total, absolute "blowout," fand will go to bed by the half....TV COMMERCIALS GO TO HELL, SOME MNF RATINGS ETC....They always leave a bit of doubt with the bettors, just like last night....Chicago up big, Steelers , like a miracle, come back to make it interesting, then late in game BIG BEN tosses out, yes tosses out backwards, his second giveaway, and it's done.....But viewers still stay, and got their pathetic entertainment!!....For some reason, I like the "under" tonight!....Thoughts??....
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    Tonight, if there's a "total, absolute "blowout," fand will go to bed by the half....TV COMMERCIALS GO TO HELL, SOME MNF RATINGS ETC....They always leave a bit of doubt with the bettors, just like last night....Chicago up big, Steelers , like a miracle, come back to make it interesting, then late in game BIG BEN tosses out, yes tosses out backwards, his second giveaway, and it's done.....But viewers still stay, and got their pathetic entertainment!!....For some reason, I like the "under" tonight!....Thoughts??....
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2013 - 10:50 AM ET #239

    75 percent on DENVER tonight!.....By the way, the 49,s, a pre Super Bowl favorite, r in the crapper....LOL!....Making ANDY REID LOOK LIKE A "GENIUS' TOO....LOL!!....And yes, the Miami game end was hilarious....YOU COULD ACTUALLY SEE IT COMING!....LOL BIG TIME!!...New year, new teams to take spotlight.....MOVE THE MONEY AROUND....EH?....
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    75 percent on DENVER tonight!.....By the way, the 49,s, a pre Super Bowl favorite, r in the crapper....LOL!....Making ANDY REID LOOK LIKE A "GENIUS' TOO....LOL!!....And yes, the Miami game end was hilarious....YOU COULD ACTUALLY SEE IT COMING!....LOL BIG TIME!!...New year, new teams to take spotlight.....MOVE THE MONEY AROUND....EH?....
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2013 - 10:55 AM ET #240

    By the way, where's the guy that started this thread????.....LOL!!...LOL!!!!!....NEARLY 16,000 VIEWS!
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    By the way, where's the guy that started this thread????.....LOL!!...LOL!!!!!....NEARLY 16,000 VIEWS!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2013 - 10:57 AM ET #241

    Quote Originally Posted by inthetank:

    No mellow, u r silly and quite gullible....I said "NOT" all of them are controlled....Read my post again....Certainly there are some things that you can't control....And you may have posted a couple....However, in the long run, many are controlled....Let's swith leagues a bit....Tom Doheny, the disgraced nba official was sentenced to serve time....Giving inside info and making phantom calls....He was to name others, but his behind knew better or he would end up in never land....In college, the Toledo was investigated twice in recent years for shaving in both football and basketball.....Years ago, Boston College players were calling off bets to a big real estate bookie....Also, a Northwestern HB admitted to fumbling on purpose twice inside the five yard line....I could name you tons more....And the NFL is the ultimate in betting....Why do 94 percent lose?.....IT IS A FACT, AND WAY BACK TO THE FIRST SUPERBOWL, PLAYERS ON BALTIMORE, A 17 POINT FAVORITE, PUBLICLY ADMITTED IT WAS FIXED TO BRING THE AFC ON PAR WITH THE NFC...NEW YORK JETS, WITH JOE NAMATH BATHING AT A BEACH, JUST LAID BACK AND SAID---"WE WILL WIN OUTRIGHT"....AND THEY DID!....So have things changed?....Hell no, they've gotten worse!..Here's good one my man....Years ago PennState started out as a 17 pt fav. and the over-under was 58...The line loved to 18.5....So, the final in the Rose bowl, was 38-20....RIGHT ON THE NUMBER AND THE TOTAL....You have a better chance of hitting the lottery than this happening....I could start on tons of fixes in the NFL....All of them?....Of course not!....But moreso than anything that is so called on the level....I've seen it all, and if u keep wagering long enough you'll get your fill too!....But keep believing in what u do, and your wallet will be much lighter....IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PLAYERS, COACHES, WEATHER ETC.....IT  IS WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IN SELECTED GAMES....DREAM ON, AND HOPEFULLY YOU WILL SEE....I know A former Division 1 QB, years ago that my son knew, and he said before every game, he knew if they'd cover or not!!!!!Bullshit?.....NOPE, THE TRUTH....So, you're entitled to your opinion, but I KNOW from over 40 years what is going on!...Good luck!

    You are full of Sh!t InTheTank, no 66 yrs old write the way you do  
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    No mellow, u r silly and quite gullible....I said "NOT" all of them are controlled....Read my post again....Certainly there are some things that you can't control....And you may have posted a couple....However, in the long run, many are controlled....Let's swith leagues a bit....Tom Doheny, the disgraced nba official was sentenced to serve time....Giving inside info and making phantom calls....He was to name others, but his behind knew better or he would end up in never land....In college, the Toledo was investigated twice in recent years for shaving in both football and basketball.....Years ago, Boston College players were calling off bets to a big real estate bookie....Also, a Northwestern HB admitted to fumbling on purpose twice inside the five yard line....I could name you tons more....And the NFL is the ultimate in betting....Why do 94 percent lose?.....IT IS A FACT, AND WAY BACK TO THE FIRST SUPERBOWL, PLAYERS ON BALTIMORE, A 17 POINT FAVORITE, PUBLICLY ADMITTED IT WAS FIXED TO BRING THE AFC ON PAR WITH THE NFC...NEW YORK JETS, WITH JOE NAMATH BATHING AT A BEACH, JUST LAID BACK AND SAID---"WE WILL WIN OUTRIGHT"....AND THEY DID!....So have things changed?....Hell no, they've gotten worse!..Here's good one my man....Years ago PennState started out as a 17 pt fav. and the over-under was 58...The line loved to 18.5....So, the final in the Rose bowl, was 38-20....RIGHT ON THE NUMBER AND THE TOTAL....You have a better chance of hitting the lottery than this happening....I could start on tons of fixes in the NFL....All of them?....Of course not!....But moreso than anything that is so called on the level....I've seen it all, and if u keep wagering long enough you'll get your fill too!....But keep believing in what u do, and your wallet will be much lighter....IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PLAYERS, COACHES, WEATHER ETC.....IT  IS WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IN SELECTED GAMES....DREAM ON, AND HOPEFULLY YOU WILL SEE....I know A former Division 1 QB, years ago that my son knew, and he said before every game, he knew if they'd cover or not!!!!!Bullshit?.....NOPE, THE TRUTH....So, you're entitled to your opinion, but I KNOW from over 40 years what is going on!...Good luck!

    You are full of Sh!t InTheTank, no 66 yrs old write the way you do  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2013 - 11:11 AM ET #242

    Quote Originally Posted by JBone_Texas:

    Professional wrestling isn't rigged either.

    Can you bet on Professional Wrestling my dear ?
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    Professional wrestling isn't rigged either.

    Can you bet on Professional Wrestling my dear ?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2013 - 11:31 AM ET #243

    Quote Originally Posted by rawm:

    who is naive enough to think that a billion dollar industry is not controlled? idiots! thats who....

    the players dont have to be on it for it to be fixed.

    the refs are the ones who control the momentum of the game. holding can be called on every play and thats just one penalty that they can call if they feel like it. pass interference can be called or not also for an automatic first down.

    if anyone was blind enough to not see what happen JUST LAST YEAR with the gb vs sea game, then im sorry to say that with a mind set of the average joe will not last long in this game. and if you have a house, wife, and kids...kiss them goodbye too....

    Of course !!! With all the Super Slow Motion Replay that we have in 2013, it is soooooo hard to judge if a penalty is forced or real....

    A referee can't control the outcome of a game by himself without being expose to the entire fan base.

    How much have you lost lately to be that upset on your poor gambling decisions..??

    Tell us idiota !


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    who is naive enough to think that a billion dollar industry is not controlled? idiots! thats who....

    the players dont have to be on it for it to be fixed.

    the refs are the ones who control the momentum of the game. holding can be called on every play and thats just one penalty that they can call if they feel like it. pass interference can be called or not also for an automatic first down.

    if anyone was blind enough to not see what happen JUST LAST YEAR with the gb vs sea game, then im sorry to say that with a mind set of the average joe will not last long in this game. and if you have a house, wife, and kids...kiss them goodbye too....

    Of course !!! With all the Super Slow Motion Replay that we have in 2013, it is soooooo hard to judge if a penalty is forced or real....

    A referee can't control the outcome of a game by himself without being expose to the entire fan base.

    How much have you lost lately to be that upset on your poor gambling decisions..??

    Tell us idiota !


     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2013 - 11:49 AM ET #244

    Quote Originally Posted by kaboons:

    I don't think I missed one game. Jags score more today then all season.. win cinci win Carolina win browns win and patriots get the blowout when people thought they were lucky to be 2-0 lol I love it 

    LOL This is how life works !!

    You get better by practising (Jags). If you though the Jags would keep scoring 10 pts or less every game of the year, keep studying the game.

    If you though Cincy couldn't win @ home against GB, keep studying the game.

    If you though Carolina couldn't win @ home against NYG, keep studying the game.

    If you thought Cleveland couldn't cover 7 pts against Minnesota, you should really keep working on your capping abilities.


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    I don't think I missed one game. Jags score more today then all season.. win cinci win Carolina win browns win and patriots get the blowout when people thought they were lucky to be 2-0 lol I love it 

    LOL This is how life works !!

    You get better by practising (Jags). If you though the Jags would keep scoring 10 pts or less every game of the year, keep studying the game.

    If you though Cincy couldn't win @ home against GB, keep studying the game.

    If you though Carolina couldn't win @ home against NYG, keep studying the game.

    If you thought Cleveland couldn't cover 7 pts against Minnesota, you should really keep working on your capping abilities.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2013 - 1:28 PM ET #245

    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:


    Here's some winners for you TURD.. i WENT 8-9..
    BAL
    CAR
    DET
    CIN  HEAVY
    CLE HEAVY
    MIA 
    JET
    SF
    SEA
    THANKS TO SLICK AND A FEW OTHERS I WENT HEAVIER ON CIN AND CLE.. OFF ON CHI-PITT

    NOW HERE"S THE LINK

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    Here's some winners for you TURD.. i WENT 8-9..
    BAL
    CAR
    DET
    CIN  HEAVY
    CLE HEAVY
    MIA 
    JET
    SF
    SEA
    THANKS TO SLICK AND A FEW OTHERS I WENT HEAVIER ON CIN AND CLE.. OFF ON CHI-PITT

    NOW HERE"S THE LINK

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=21&sub=101694718



    Fraud alert. Posted picks late into the 2nd half.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2013 - 2:59 PM ET #246

    Ok time finish off the perfect weekend. Oakland is the bet after seeing Seattle cover 15 doesn't look so bad now lol nail bitter game should be fun.

    And to answer the question on pro wrestling yes u can bet pro wrestling, up until 3 weeks ago some guy on twitter predicted over 20 str8 matches and they took it down 
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    Ok time finish off the perfect weekend. Oakland is the bet after seeing Seattle cover 15 doesn't look so bad now lol nail bitter game should be fun.

    And to answer the question on pro wrestling yes u can bet pro wrestling, up until 3 weeks ago some guy on twitter predicted over 20 str8 matches and they took it down 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2013 - 3:13 PM ET #247

    So, with all of this "fixing" phenomenon going on, what is the bet for MNF??
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2013 - 3:30 PM ET #248

    hmmmm thats what u think last night seahawks -19 i took them were they not supposed to cover or was all the money on the jags?????????? if thats the case the powers to be made the hawks cover? either way i won
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    hmmmm thats what u think last night seahawks -19 i took them were they not supposed to cover or was all the money on the jags?????????? if thats the case the powers to be made the hawks cover? either way i won
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2013 - 3:38 PM ET #249

    Jay did u not read the post before yours? Oak is the bet
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    Jay did u not read the post before yours? Oak is the bet
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2013 - 4:03 PM ET #250

    I like to make sure since this isn't our thread. Thank you for the reply though.
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