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    Hey Guys...Tim Tebow Still Sucks

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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 10:43 PM ET #2026

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    In 5 of those wins Tebow had a passer rating over 90.  I wouldn’t call that poor.


    And 5 of those games it was below 70. Which is worse than poor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    In 5 of those wins Tebow had a passer rating over 90.  I wouldn’t call that poor.


    And 5 of those games it was below 70. Which is worse than poor.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 10:44 PM ET #2027

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    It's not an excuse. It's a fact. You argue that he doesn't suck. That's good enough. You can't even twist this one. You call him a "WINNER". He may win games...but NOBODY claims someone is a "WINNER" if they think they're average.

    Nice try, though.

    It’s a fact that if someone doesn’t suck that means they are good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    It's not an excuse. It's a fact. You argue that he doesn't suck. That's good enough. You can't even twist this one. You call him a "WINNER". He may win games...but NOBODY claims someone is a "WINNER" if they think they're average.

    Nice try, though.

    It’s a fact that if someone doesn’t suck that means they are good?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 10:46 PM ET #2028

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    Look whose hedging their bet now. If Tebow doesn't suck...the next step up is decent. And you talk as if he's great. You say you don't think he's great...but you're fighting the fact that he "doesn't suck". Suck is bad. Opposite of suck is good. Decent is the lowest level of good.

    You said that I can't admit when I'm wrong. If you try to spin this...there's no arguing with you. Plain and Simple. 

    Also...If you can't admit that the Broncos defense is better than their rankings indicate...than you obviously are just trying to fight for the sake of fighting because you can't be wrong.

    I don't care what you or the Tebow fans say. Regardless if Tebow becomes a Hall of Famer or is a backup in 2 years. You'll stand by the fact that Tebow doesn't suck and there is absolutely no arguing with you. None. And I've seen so many people go back and fourth with you and they all end up saying is that YOU are the one who can't admit that you're wrong. If you can still say that Tebow is good after what you have seen from him...than you are, I'm sorry to say, clueless.
      The opposite of suck is 'great', not 'good'.  Tebow is in the playoffs. 20 other quarterbacks will be watching on tv.  He's going to kick the Steelers ass this weekend!! It will be so fun!
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    Look whose hedging their bet now. If Tebow doesn't suck...the next step up is decent. And you talk as if he's great. You say you don't think he's great...but you're fighting the fact that he "doesn't suck". Suck is bad. Opposite of suck is good. Decent is the lowest level of good.

    You said that I can't admit when I'm wrong. If you try to spin this...there's no arguing with you. Plain and Simple. 

    Also...If you can't admit that the Broncos defense is better than their rankings indicate...than you obviously are just trying to fight for the sake of fighting because you can't be wrong.

    I don't care what you or the Tebow fans say. Regardless if Tebow becomes a Hall of Famer or is a backup in 2 years. You'll stand by the fact that Tebow doesn't suck and there is absolutely no arguing with you. None. And I've seen so many people go back and fourth with you and they all end up saying is that YOU are the one who can't admit that you're wrong. If you can still say that Tebow is good after what you have seen from him...than you are, I'm sorry to say, clueless.
      The opposite of suck is 'great', not 'good'.  Tebow is in the playoffs. 20 other quarterbacks will be watching on tv.  He's going to kick the Steelers ass this weekend!! It will be so fun!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 10:47 PM ET #2029

    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    Well, that's awfully nice of you. At the very least, below average is closer to "sucking" than "decent" unless of course, you could sub-divide them into many more smaller catagories like he's below average but 1 point above "sucking".


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    Well, that's awfully nice of you. At the very least, below average is closer to "sucking" than "decent" unless of course, you could sub-divide them into many more smaller catagories like he's below average but 1 point above "sucking".


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodWoman:

      The opposite of suck is 'great', not 'good'.  Tebow is in the playoffs. 20 other quarterbacks will be watching on tv.  He's going to kick the Steelers ass this weekend!! It will be so fun!

    OK. Well Shooter never said he's "bad" either. Which is the opposite of "good".

    And the Broncos won't win next week. And since when do they "kick ass"? They "kicked ass" ONCE this entire season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodWoman:

      The opposite of suck is 'great', not 'good'.  Tebow is in the playoffs. 20 other quarterbacks will be watching on tv.  He's going to kick the Steelers ass this weekend!! It will be so fun!

    OK. Well Shooter never said he's "bad" either. Which is the opposite of "good".

    And the Broncos won't win next week. And since when do they "kick ass"? They "kicked ass" ONCE this entire season.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 10:55 PM ET #2031

    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    Well, that's awfully nice of you. At the very least, below average is closer to "sucking" than "decent" unless of course, you could sub-divide them into many more smaller catagories like he's below average but 1 point above "sucking".

    That doesn’t take into account intangibles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    Well, that's awfully nice of you. At the very least, below average is closer to "sucking" than "decent" unless of course, you could sub-divide them into many more smaller catagories like he's below average but 1 point above "sucking".

    That doesn’t take into account intangibles.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 11:05 PM ET #2032

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    And 5 of those games it was below 70. Which is worse than poor.

    Denver lost one game this season with Tebow when the defense played well and that was today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    And 5 of those games it was below 70. Which is worse than poor.

    Denver lost one game this season with Tebow when the defense played well and that was today.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 11:11 PM ET #2033

    Quote Originally Posted by RodWoman:

      The opposite of suck is 'great', not 'good'.  Tebow is in the playoffs. 20 other quarterbacks will be watching on tv.  He's going to kick the Steelers ass this weekend!! It will be so fun!

    Yeah, his logic didn’t make much sense to me either.

    It’s like “black is the opposite of white so therefore if someone isn’t black that means they are white.”

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodWoman:

      The opposite of suck is 'great', not 'good'.  Tebow is in the playoffs. 20 other quarterbacks will be watching on tv.  He's going to kick the Steelers ass this weekend!! It will be so fun!

    Yeah, his logic didn’t make much sense to me either.

    It’s like “black is the opposite of white so therefore if someone isn’t black that means they are white.”

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 11:12 PM ET #2034

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Denver lost one game this season with Tebow when the defense played well and that was today.


    Case and Point. Tebow usually needs the defense to be flawless to win.

    And once again...the defense played very well against the Bills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Denver lost one game this season with Tebow when the defense played well and that was today.


    Case and Point. Tebow usually needs the defense to be flawless to win.

    And once again...the defense played very well against the Bills.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 11:18 PM ET #2035

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    And 5 of those games it was below 70. Which is worse than poor.

     

    and 4 of Elis's 8 years were a rating of less than 75 ...to use your words that is worse than poor ...hey sparky tell us what Eli's jock smells like ...cant wait to see him go out in the first round next week to bring his playoff record to 1-4 in first round games ...ultimate overated QB but we will see...Eli ....mister one and done ...choke it Eli ....pull up his FIRST round playoff game records Sparky ....but he has had a winning record in Just half of his seasons ...the ones above 75 rating ...which like I said is just 4 years .....type me a response sparky if you can pull yourself away from sniffin that old Eli jock you bought off E bay

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    And 5 of those games it was below 70. Which is worse than poor.

     

    and 4 of Elis's 8 years were a rating of less than 75 ...to use your words that is worse than poor ...hey sparky tell us what Eli's jock smells like ...cant wait to see him go out in the first round next week to bring his playoff record to 1-4 in first round games ...ultimate overated QB but we will see...Eli ....mister one and done ...choke it Eli ....pull up his FIRST round playoff game records Sparky ....but he has had a winning record in Just half of his seasons ...the ones above 75 rating ...which like I said is just 4 years .....type me a response sparky if you can pull yourself away from sniffin that old Eli jock you bought off E bay

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    Case and Point. Tebow usually needs the defense to be flawless to win.

    And once again...the defense played very well against the Bills.

    this coming from a guy that said Eli was 2-5 L7 cause of his defensive secondary

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    Case and Point. Tebow usually needs the defense to be flawless to win.

    And once again...the defense played very well against the Bills.

    this coming from a guy that said Eli was 2-5 L7 cause of his defensive secondary

     
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    I guess joboarder won't be making a "Hey Guys...Eli Manning Sucks" thread. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by joboarder:

    this coming from a guy that said Eli was 2-5 L7 cause of his defensive secondary


    Not entirely because of the defense. Of course not. But that's why the Giants have been bad this season. Not because of Eli.

    Looks like the Giants rained on your parade tonight. Hope you didn't lose too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joboarder:

    this coming from a guy that said Eli was 2-5 L7 cause of his defensive secondary


    Not entirely because of the defense. Of course not. But that's why the Giants have been bad this season. Not because of Eli.

    Looks like the Giants rained on your parade tonight. Hope you didn't lose too much.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joboarder:

     

    and 4 of Elis's 8 years were a rating of less than 75 ...to use your words that is worse than poor ...hey sparky tell us what Eli's jock smells like ...cant wait to see him go out in the first round next week to bring his playoff record to 1-4 in first round games ...ultimate overated QB but we will see...Eli ....mister one and done ...choke it Eli ....pull up his FIRST round playoff game records Sparky ....but he has had a winning record in Just half of his seasons ...the ones above 75 rating ...which like I said is just 4 years .....type me a response sparky if you can pull yourself away from sniffin that old Eli jock you bought off E bay


    Hey. I've never been a big Eli fan. I'm a fan by default because I'm a Giants fan. He tends to make poor decisions and throws the ball to receivers a la David Tyree in the super bowl. But there is no denying that Eli is having a career season this year. And you denying that is inexcusable. Now that both teams are in the playoffs...what's your excuse?
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    and 4 of Elis's 8 years were a rating of less than 75 ...to use your words that is worse than poor ...hey sparky tell us what Eli's jock smells like ...cant wait to see him go out in the first round next week to bring his playoff record to 1-4 in first round games ...ultimate overated QB but we will see...Eli ....mister one and done ...choke it Eli ....pull up his FIRST round playoff game records Sparky ....but he has had a winning record in Just half of his seasons ...the ones above 75 rating ...which like I said is just 4 years .....type me a response sparky if you can pull yourself away from sniffin that old Eli jock you bought off E bay


    Hey. I've never been a big Eli fan. I'm a fan by default because I'm a Giants fan. He tends to make poor decisions and throws the ball to receivers a la David Tyree in the super bowl. But there is no denying that Eli is having a career season this year. And you denying that is inexcusable. Now that both teams are in the playoffs...what's your excuse?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    I guess joboarder won't be making a "Hey Guys...Eli Manning Sucks" thread. 

     

    dont have to because you said it already ...guy has 4 of 8 years with a 70 rating ....in your words that sucks ....guy has made the playoff only 4 times in his career only to be blown out in the first round almost every time ...that my friend sucks....ultimate choke artist ...this year is differant though ...winning 3 of their last 8 is really on a roll ...but it is the defense's fault for Eli only scoring 10 points against the poor washington redskins ...AT HOME EVEN...not to mention how his secondaery was the cause for him throwing 3 pics ....the guy is the king of one and done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    I guess joboarder won't be making a "Hey Guys...Eli Manning Sucks" thread. 

     

    dont have to because you said it already ...guy has 4 of 8 years with a 70 rating ....in your words that sucks ....guy has made the playoff only 4 times in his career only to be blown out in the first round almost every time ...that my friend sucks....ultimate choke artist ...this year is differant though ...winning 3 of their last 8 is really on a roll ...but it is the defense's fault for Eli only scoring 10 points against the poor washington redskins ...AT HOME EVEN...not to mention how his secondaery was the cause for him throwing 3 pics ....the guy is the king of one and done

     
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    DONT WORRY GUYS.......

    DAL.........PUT DOWN MY HOUSE.....
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 11:36 PM ET #2042

    Lets go down The Giants/Eli's list and see how many teams they beat with a winning record ......OH WAIT I FOUND IT ....1 fucking team .....wow !
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    Lets go down The Giants/Eli's list and see how many teams they beat with a winning record ......OH WAIT I FOUND IT ....1 fucking team .....wow !
     
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    The Giants just showed everyone what it's like to EARN a playoff birth instead of it being handed to them.

    Not to mention that Eli Manning set a record by throwing his 15th fourth quarter TD pass surpassing Johnny Unitas and, oh yea, Peyton Manning. 
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    The Giants just showed everyone what it's like to EARN a playoff birth instead of it being handed to them.

    Not to mention that Eli Manning set a record by throwing his 15th fourth quarter TD pass surpassing Johnny Unitas and, oh yea, Peyton Manning. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 11:39 PM ET #2044

    guess that is why the Giants/Eli and the Kings of one and dones ....they just cant beat decent teams ...not to mention good teams ....Giants 1-3 ...soon to be 1-4 in Eli's playoff world of first round chokes
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    guess that is why the Giants/Eli and the Kings of one and dones ....they just cant beat decent teams ...not to mention good teams ....Giants 1-3 ...soon to be 1-4 in Eli's playoff world of first round chokes
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joboarder:

    Lets go down The Giants/Eli's list and see how many teams they beat with a winning record ......OH WAIT I FOUND IT ....1 fucking team .....wow !

    Lets see how many playoff teams Denver has faced with Tim Tebow.

    TWO. Both were at home. And both were blowouts. Next week it will be THREE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joboarder:

    Lets go down The Giants/Eli's list and see how many teams they beat with a winning record ......OH WAIT I FOUND IT ....1 fucking team .....wow !

    Lets see how many playoff teams Denver has faced with Tim Tebow.

    TWO. Both were at home. And both were blowouts. Next week it will be THREE.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 11:46 PM ET #2046

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    A division title where nobody had a winning record. Real impressive.

    You talk about that one game where he had a 149 passer rating so you must think that's a pretty important stat. Well why do you keep ducking the stat I just gave you?

     

    Funny thing is the NFC "Least" overall record looks pretty much the same as the AFC west to me ...spin that one my friend ...no wait you guys have the PATHETIC redskins that you lose to at home and score 10 points against.....which GOOD teams did you EARN anything against ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    A division title where nobody had a winning record. Real impressive.

    You talk about that one game where he had a 149 passer rating so you must think that's a pretty important stat. Well why do you keep ducking the stat I just gave you?

     

    Funny thing is the NFC "Least" overall record looks pretty much the same as the AFC west to me ...spin that one my friend ...no wait you guys have the PATHETIC redskins that you lose to at home and score 10 points against.....which GOOD teams did you EARN anything against ?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    Case and Point. Tebow usually needs the defense to be flawless to win.

    And once again...the defense played very well against the Bills.

    The point being in their wins Tebow usually has a passer rating over 90 and the defense plays well; then in their loses Tebow usually plays poorly and the defense usually plays poorly.

    It’s a team effort and I wouldn’t give all the credit or blame to one or the other.

     

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    Case and Point. Tebow usually needs the defense to be flawless to win.

    And once again...the defense played very well against the Bills.

    The point being in their wins Tebow usually has a passer rating over 90 and the defense plays well; then in their loses Tebow usually plays poorly and the defense usually plays poorly.

    It’s a team effort and I wouldn’t give all the credit or blame to one or the other.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 11:48 PM ET #2048

    Mendelhall is out.
    Clark will be out.
    Ben been hobbled.
    Tebow on that winning streak no 2 stinkers in a row.
    Perfect setup for a Denver win.
    Public will eat up Pitts on the road.
    Pitts has looked avg at best sometimes shitty on the road this year.
    Gut feeling Tebow wins this.
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    Mendelhall is out.
    Clark will be out.
    Ben been hobbled.
    Tebow on that winning streak no 2 stinkers in a row.
    Perfect setup for a Denver win.
    Public will eat up Pitts on the road.
    Pitts has looked avg at best sometimes shitty on the road this year.
    Gut feeling Tebow wins this.
     
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    Tebow really we are still having this argument. Did you watch the game today? I will give you 10 college Qbs that if they were playing for Denver, the Broncos would have won by at least 10.
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    Tebow really we are still having this argument. Did you watch the game today? I will give you 10 college Qbs that if they were playing for Denver, the Broncos would have won by at least 10.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    Lets see how many playoff teams Denver has faced with Tim Tebow.

    TWO. Both were at home. And both were blowouts. Next week it will be THREE.

    Yes because the Giants/Eli are a stellar 1-3 against playoff teams this year ....spin that one

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    Lets see how many playoff teams Denver has faced with Tim Tebow.

    TWO. Both were at home. And both were blowouts. Next week it will be THREE.

    Yes because the Giants/Eli are a stellar 1-3 against playoff teams this year ....spin that one

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