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    Hey Guys...Tim Tebow Still Sucks

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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 9:42 PM ET #2001

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    The Steelers have the #1 defense in the NFL and the Denver defense hasn’t forced a turnover in 3 weeks.  If the Steelers can score 21 points they should probably be enough.

    21 are you kidding? KC just beat the Broncos with 7.     Say goodnight Alice

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    The Steelers have the #1 defense in the NFL and the Denver defense hasn’t forced a turnover in 3 weeks.  If the Steelers can score 21 points they should probably be enough.

    21 are you kidding? KC just beat the Broncos with 7.     Say goodnight Alice

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 9:46 PM ET #2002

    Not even sure why I typed all that because all I'm going to get back is that he brought a 1-4 team to the playoffs. As if he, single-handedly won all the games.
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    Not even sure why I typed all that because all I'm going to get back is that he brought a 1-4 team to the playoffs. As if he, single-handedly won all the games.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 10:03 PM ET #2003

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    The only time I bring up that the defense ranks in the bottom 10 of the NFL is when people try to claim how good they are.

     

    They WERE the reason why Denver is in the playoffs. I guess you are not disputing the other points I made since you avoid them altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    The only time I bring up that the defense ranks in the bottom 10 of the NFL is when people try to claim how good they are.

     

    They WERE the reason why Denver is in the playoffs. I guess you are not disputing the other points I made since you avoid them altogether.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 10:11 PM ET #2004

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    Look whose hedging their bet now. If Tebow doesn't suck...the next step up is decent. And you talk as if he's great. You say you don't think he's great...but you're fighting the fact that he "doesn't suck". Suck is bad. Opposite of suck is good. Decent is the lowest level of good.

    You said that I can't admit when I'm wrong. If you try to spin this...there's no arguing with you. Plain and Simple. 

    Also...If you can't admit that the Broncos defense is better than their rankings indicate...than you obviously are just trying to fight for the sake of fighting because you can't be wrong.

    I don't care what you or the Tebow fans say. Regardless if Tebow becomes a Hall of Famer or is a backup in 2 years. You'll stand by the fact that Tebow doesn't suck and there is absolutely no arguing with you. None. And I've seen so many people go back and fourth with you and they all end up saying is that YOU are the one who can't admit that you're wrong. If you can still say that Tebow is good after what you have seen from him...than you are, I'm sorry to say, clueless.

    Once again: you just flat out lie about what I said.  But I suppose that is to be expected given your situation.

    Where did I say Tebow was a good QB?

     

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    Look whose hedging their bet now. If Tebow doesn't suck...the next step up is decent. And you talk as if he's great. You say you don't think he's great...but you're fighting the fact that he "doesn't suck". Suck is bad. Opposite of suck is good. Decent is the lowest level of good.

    You said that I can't admit when I'm wrong. If you try to spin this...there's no arguing with you. Plain and Simple. 

    Also...If you can't admit that the Broncos defense is better than their rankings indicate...than you obviously are just trying to fight for the sake of fighting because you can't be wrong.

    I don't care what you or the Tebow fans say. Regardless if Tebow becomes a Hall of Famer or is a backup in 2 years. You'll stand by the fact that Tebow doesn't suck and there is absolutely no arguing with you. None. And I've seen so many people go back and fourth with you and they all end up saying is that YOU are the one who can't admit that you're wrong. If you can still say that Tebow is good after what you have seen from him...than you are, I'm sorry to say, clueless.

    Once again: you just flat out lie about what I said.  But I suppose that is to be expected given your situation.

    Where did I say Tebow was a good QB?

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 10:13 PM ET #2005

    Quote Originally Posted by gilligansisland:

    21 are you kidding? KC just beat the Broncos with 7.     Say goodnight Alice

    The adults were talking about the Steelers covering a game.  Go back to your coloring books.

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    21 are you kidding? KC just beat the Broncos with 7.     Say goodnight Alice

    The adults were talking about the Steelers covering a game.  Go back to your coloring books.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 10:16 PM ET #2006

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Once again: you just flat out lie about what I said.  But I suppose that is to be expected given your situation.

    Where did I say Tebow was a good QB?

     


    Well you're arguing against the fact that he sucks so, by default, you think he's good.

    But it's ok that you don't say it. Everyone knows you've been in this thread fighting it since day one so you can keep denying it to us, we all know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Once again: you just flat out lie about what I said.  But I suppose that is to be expected given your situation.

    Where did I say Tebow was a good QB?

     


    Well you're arguing against the fact that he sucks so, by default, you think he's good.

    But it's ok that you don't say it. Everyone knows you've been in this thread fighting it since day one so you can keep denying it to us, we all know.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 10:17 PM ET #2007

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Once again: you just flat out lie about what I said.  But I suppose that is to be expected given your situation.

    Where did I say Tebow was a good QB?

     

    So how would you rate him as a QB? Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Once again: you just flat out lie about what I said.  But I suppose that is to be expected given your situation.

    Where did I say Tebow was a good QB?

     

    So how would you rate him as a QB? Just curious.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 10:18 PM ET #2008

    And what "situation" am I in? The one that now has everyone who CAN admit they were wrong, admitting it and saying that Tebow is a terrible quarterback and, well, he sucks?
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    And what "situation" am I in? The one that now has everyone who CAN admit they were wrong, admitting it and saying that Tebow is a terrible quarterback and, well, he sucks?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 10:18 PM ET #2009

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Not even sure why I typed all that because all I'm going to get back is that he brought a 1-4 team to the playoffs. As if he, single-handedly won all the games.

    Of course he didn’t.  However QBs get more credit for wins than they usually deserve and they get more blame for loses than they usually deserve.

    That’s just the way of the NFL.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Not even sure why I typed all that because all I'm going to get back is that he brought a 1-4 team to the playoffs. As if he, single-handedly won all the games.

    Of course he didn’t.  However QBs get more credit for wins than they usually deserve and they get more blame for loses than they usually deserve.

    That’s just the way of the NFL.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 10:19 PM ET #2010

    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    So how would you rate him as a QB? Just curious.


    Does it matter? HE wins. Not the Broncos win. TIM TEBOW wins. Nobody else factors into the wins since the defense isn't good and nobody seems to ever mention Prater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    So how would you rate him as a QB? Just curious.


    Does it matter? HE wins. Not the Broncos win. TIM TEBOW wins. Nobody else factors into the wins since the defense isn't good and nobody seems to ever mention Prater.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

     

    They WERE the reason why Denver is in the playoffs. I guess you are not disputing the other points I made since you avoid them altogether.

    You want a cookie for pointing out the defense helped the team win games this season?

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    They WERE the reason why Denver is in the playoffs. I guess you are not disputing the other points I made since you avoid them altogether.

    You want a cookie for pointing out the defense helped the team win games this season?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Of course he didn’t.  However QBs get more credit for wins than they usually deserve and they get more blame for loses than they usually deserve.

    That’s just the way of the NFL.

     


    So you have to go by the way of the NFL? Even when, time after time, I bring up games where the Broncos defense were dominant, and all the credit still goes to Tebow?

    And I've even seen people blame the Broncos defense for giving up 40 to the Bills. Only looking at the box score. Probably because it makes their argument look better. Despite the fact that the defense was pretty damn good that game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Of course he didn’t.  However QBs get more credit for wins than they usually deserve and they get more blame for loses than they usually deserve.

    That’s just the way of the NFL.

     


    So you have to go by the way of the NFL? Even when, time after time, I bring up games where the Broncos defense were dominant, and all the credit still goes to Tebow?

    And I've even seen people blame the Broncos defense for giving up 40 to the Bills. Only looking at the box score. Probably because it makes their argument look better. Despite the fact that the defense was pretty damn good that game.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    Well you're arguing against the fact that he sucks so, by default, you think he's good.

    But it's ok that you don't say it. Everyone knows you've been in this thread fighting it since day one so you can keep denying it to us, we all know.

    Because I said I don’t think he sucks that means I think he is good? Nice excuse.

    Still waiting for you to point out where I claimed he was a good QB.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    Well you're arguing against the fact that he sucks so, by default, you think he's good.

    But it's ok that you don't say it. Everyone knows you've been in this thread fighting it since day one so you can keep denying it to us, we all know.

    Because I said I don’t think he sucks that means I think he is good? Nice excuse.

    Still waiting for you to point out where I claimed he was a good QB.

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    You want a cookie for pointing out the defense helped the team win games this season?

    No, I just want to point out they are the reason Den is in the playoffs, in spite of Tebow's poor play. Obviously, you can't make a case besides pointing out one stat here and there while ignoring other glaring aspects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    You want a cookie for pointing out the defense helped the team win games this season?

    No, I just want to point out they are the reason Den is in the playoffs, in spite of Tebow's poor play. Obviously, you can't make a case besides pointing out one stat here and there while ignoring other glaring aspects.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    So how would you rate him as a QB? Just curious.

    Right now, probably below average as a QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    So how would you rate him as a QB? Just curious.

    Right now, probably below average as a QB.

     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by StraightShooter]

    The Steelers have the #1 defense in the NFL and the Denver defense hasn’t forced a turnover in 3 weeks.  If the Steelers can score 21 points they should probably be enough.

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    Too bad holding KC to 7 wasn't good enough.Another bad showing by the Denver D?

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by StraightShooter]

    The Steelers have the #1 defense in the NFL and the Denver defense hasn’t forced a turnover in 3 weeks.  If the Steelers can score 21 points they should probably be enough.

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    Too bad holding KC to 7 wasn't good enough.Another bad showing by the Denver D?

     
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    hey sparky, shooter! can we just drop this subject please! sparky is RIGHT!!! Tebow sucks and we all saw that clear as day today!!! we all know that broncos are not the SB champs this year, they're not even going to be the conference champs. and stop bringing the broncos' defense because they too sucked!
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    hey sparky, shooter! can we just drop this subject please! sparky is RIGHT!!! Tebow sucks and we all saw that clear as day today!!! we all know that broncos are not the SB champs this year, they're not even going to be the conference champs. and stop bringing the broncos' defense because they too sucked!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Because I said I don’t think he sucks that means I think he is good? Nice excuse.

    Still waiting for you to point out where I claimed he was a good QB.

     

     


    It's not an excuse. It's a fact. You argue that he doesn't suck. That's good enough. You can't even twist this one. You call him a "WINNER". He may win games...but NOBODY claims someone is a "WINNER" if they think they're average.

    Nice try, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Because I said I don’t think he sucks that means I think he is good? Nice excuse.

    Still waiting for you to point out where I claimed he was a good QB.

     

     


    It's not an excuse. It's a fact. You argue that he doesn't suck. That's good enough. You can't even twist this one. You call him a "WINNER". He may win games...but NOBODY claims someone is a "WINNER" if they think they're average.

    Nice try, though.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    And what "situation" am I in? The one that now has everyone who CAN admit they were wrong, admitting it and saying that Tebow is a terrible quarterback and, well, he sucks?

    A one in which you are desperately trying to save face.

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    And what "situation" am I in? The one that now has everyone who CAN admit they were wrong, admitting it and saying that Tebow is a terrible quarterback and, well, he sucks?

    A one in which you are desperately trying to save face.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    So you have to go by the way of the NFL? Even when, time after time, I bring up games where the Broncos defense were dominant, and all the credit still goes to Tebow?

    And I've even seen people blame the Broncos defense for giving up 40 to the Bills. Only looking at the box score. Probably because it makes their argument look better. Despite the fact that the defense was pretty damn good that game.

    So now you want to argue with me about what other people do? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    So you have to go by the way of the NFL? Even when, time after time, I bring up games where the Broncos defense were dominant, and all the credit still goes to Tebow?

    And I've even seen people blame the Broncos defense for giving up 40 to the Bills. Only looking at the box score. Probably because it makes their argument look better. Despite the fact that the defense was pretty damn good that game.

    So now you want to argue with me about what other people do? 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgnerate:

    hey sparky, shooter!
    can we just drop this subject please! sparky is RIGHT!!! Tebow sucks and we all saw that clear as day today!!! we all know that broncos are not the SB champs this year, they're not even going to be the conference champs. and stop bringing the broncos' defense because they too sucked!



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    Quote Originally Posted by dgnerate:

    hey sparky, shooter!
    can we just drop this subject please! sparky is RIGHT!!! Tebow sucks and we all saw that clear as day today!!! we all know that broncos are not the SB champs this year, they're not even going to be the conference champs. and stop bringing the broncos' defense because they too sucked!



     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    No, I just want to point out they are the reason Den is in the playoffs, in spite of Tebow's poor play. Obviously, you can't make a case besides pointing out one stat here and there while ignoring other glaring aspects.

    In 5 of those wins Tebow had a passer rating over 90.  I wouldn’t call that poor.

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    No, I just want to point out they are the reason Den is in the playoffs, in spite of Tebow's poor play. Obviously, you can't make a case besides pointing out one stat here and there while ignoring other glaring aspects.

    In 5 of those wins Tebow had a passer rating over 90.  I wouldn’t call that poor.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilligansisland:


    Too bad holding KC to 7 wasn't good enough.Another bad showing by the Denver D?


    It's sad when holding SIX teams in 11 weeks under 15 points isn't good enough.

    And you know what else this defense has done that's even more remarkable in those 11 weeks? 6 of those weeks they allowed 1 offensive touchdown to go along with the game against the Jets where they didn't give up one.
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    Too bad holding KC to 7 wasn't good enough.Another bad showing by the Denver D?


    It's sad when holding SIX teams in 11 weeks under 15 points isn't good enough.

    And you know what else this defense has done that's even more remarkable in those 11 weeks? 6 of those weeks they allowed 1 offensive touchdown to go along with the game against the Jets where they didn't give up one.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Right now, probably below average as a QB.

    Well, that's awfully nice of you. At the very least, below average is closer to "sucking" than "decent" unless of course, you could sub-divide them into many more smaller catagories like he's below average but 1 point above "sucking".

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    Right now, probably below average as a QB.

    Well, that's awfully nice of you. At the very least, below average is closer to "sucking" than "decent" unless of course, you could sub-divide them into many more smaller catagories like he's below average but 1 point above "sucking".

     
     
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    "Too bad holding KC to 7 wasn't good enough.Another bad showing by the Denver D?"

    No, the defense played pretty well.

    3 weeks in a row without a turnover though, IIRC.

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    "Too bad holding KC to 7 wasn't good enough.Another bad showing by the Denver D?"

    No, the defense played pretty well.

    3 weeks in a row without a turnover though, IIRC.

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