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    Hey Guys...Tim Tebow Still Sucks

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    StraightShooter
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 8:38 PM ET #1976

    Tebow haters........

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    Tebow haters........

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 8:38 PM ET #1977

    Giants game...enough of this from me.

    Even dgenerate is starting to realize how bad Tebow is as a quarterback. Maybe the Broncos should trade for Matt Flynn.
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    Giants game...enough of this from me.

    Even dgenerate is starting to realize how bad Tebow is as a quarterback. Maybe the Broncos should trade for Matt Flynn.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 8:40 PM ET #1978

    [Quote: Originally Posted by StraightShooter]

    Quoting yourself.  How sad.

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    Stright ....that is because of his own spin shit....he is starting to confuse himself

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by StraightShooter]

    Quoting yourself.  How sad.

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    Stright ....that is because of his own spin shit....he is starting to confuse himself

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 8:42 PM ET #1979

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    By trying to justify how a guy that took over a 1-4 team and led them to a division title sucks.

    Any different than you try to hide Tebow's incompetence by just mentioning the defense ranking? Most of his comebacks were due to his team's defense. He practically did nothing for the first 3 quarters. The defense kept them in those games, why would people think he even had the chances to bring them back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    By trying to justify how a guy that took over a 1-4 team and led them to a division title sucks.

    Any different than you try to hide Tebow's incompetence by just mentioning the defense ranking? Most of his comebacks were due to his team's defense. He practically did nothing for the first 3 quarters. The defense kept them in those games, why would people think he even had the chances to bring them back?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 8:42 PM ET #1980

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    Tony Romo has a good winning track record. But what about when the games MATTER? Tebow show'd that he couldn't win today when it MATTERED and he won't win next week. And don't talk to me about his history in Florida because this is an entire different league.

    You were talking about box score stats.

    Again: if QBs were judged on box score stats alone Tony Romo would be one of the greatest QBs of all time.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    Tony Romo has a good winning track record. But what about when the games MATTER? Tebow show'd that he couldn't win today when it MATTERED and he won't win next week. And don't talk to me about his history in Florida because this is an entire different league.

    You were talking about box score stats.

    Again: if QBs were judged on box score stats alone Tony Romo would be one of the greatest QBs of all time.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 8:47 PM ET #1981

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Yup, they sure are pissed with that division title their team just won. 

    Who wouldn't be proud of an 8-8 record?Even better losing the last three games of the season,how could a team not be proud of that? I have to admit this team is on a roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Yup, they sure are pissed with that division title their team just won. 

    Who wouldn't be proud of an 8-8 record?Even better losing the last three games of the season,how could a team not be proud of that? I have to admit this team is on a roll.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 8:51 PM ET #1982

    Quote Originally Posted by gilligansisland:

    Who wouldn't be proud of an 8-8 record?Even better losing the last three games of the season,how could a team not be proud of that? I have to admit this team is on a roll.

    after starting 1-4 and taking a team to the playoffs for the first time by any team in ten years ....yes they are excited ....I repeat ...first team in ten years to make playoffs after starting 1-4...last team 2002 NYJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilligansisland:

    Who wouldn't be proud of an 8-8 record?Even better losing the last three games of the season,how could a team not be proud of that? I have to admit this team is on a roll.

    after starting 1-4 and taking a team to the playoffs for the first time by any team in ten years ....yes they are excited ....I repeat ...first team in ten years to make playoffs after starting 1-4...last team 2002 NYJ

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 8:52 PM ET #1983

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    Exactly. But you used it to fight your argument that Tebow was better than "decent" so you must think it's important. So he had one game with a good passer rating. He's had 2 this season that was over 100. Far from good.

    Minion claimed Tebow was simply “decent” in that game.

    I pointed out that a 149+ passer rating is not simply decent.

    Also where did I say Tebow was better than decent or even good?

     

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    Exactly. But you used it to fight your argument that Tebow was better than "decent" so you must think it's important. So he had one game with a good passer rating. He's had 2 this season that was over 100. Far from good.

    Minion claimed Tebow was simply “decent” in that game.

    I pointed out that a 149+ passer rating is not simply decent.

    Also where did I say Tebow was better than decent or even good?

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 8:53 PM ET #1984

    joboarder- How you like ELI now???
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 8:54 PM ET #1985

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    Correcting myself, actually. Because I know if I didn't catch it...you would and we'd have a 3 page discussion about how I made a mistake since you're running out of excuses.

    If anyone would be finding an excuse to go off on a tangent in an attempt to deflect it would be you are the other haters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    Correcting myself, actually. Because I know if I didn't catch it...you would and we'd have a 3 page discussion about how I made a mistake since you're running out of excuses.

    If anyone would be finding an excuse to go off on a tangent in an attempt to deflect it would be you are the other haters.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 8:56 PM ET #1986

    Tebow looked very bad today. I think that on some levels his coaches failed him today.Every time he dropped back, he seemed to have time but never any receivers open

    The Broncos gameplan was piss poor today in my opinion. Very few first down passed. There seemed to be way too many 2nd and 7ish play action passes with only 1 and 2 receiver routes. Thats just what I noticed.

    No excusing Tim Tebows play today. Like Sparky said, he will not be able to get away with only play 1 good quarter of football. Today was a definite step backward for him. 

    Def taking the under in that Steelers/broncos game
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    Tebow looked very bad today. I think that on some levels his coaches failed him today.Every time he dropped back, he seemed to have time but never any receivers open

    The Broncos gameplan was piss poor today in my opinion. Very few first down passed. There seemed to be way too many 2nd and 7ish play action passes with only 1 and 2 receiver routes. Thats just what I noticed.

    No excusing Tim Tebows play today. Like Sparky said, he will not be able to get away with only play 1 good quarter of football. Today was a definite step backward for him. 

    Def taking the under in that Steelers/broncos game
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 8:56 PM ET #1987

    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    Any different than you try to hide Tebow's incompetence by just mentioning the defense ranking? Most of his comebacks were due to his team's defense. He practically did nothing for the first 3 quarters. The defense kept them in those games, why would people think he even had the chances to bring them back?

    The only time I bring up that the defense ranks in the bottom 10 of the NFL is when people try to claim how good they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    Any different than you try to hide Tebow's incompetence by just mentioning the defense ranking? Most of his comebacks were due to his team's defense. He practically did nothing for the first 3 quarters. The defense kept them in those games, why would people think he even had the chances to bring them back?

    The only time I bring up that the defense ranks in the bottom 10 of the NFL is when people try to claim how good they are.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 9:02 PM ET #1988

    Tim Tebow is only in his 2nd year in the NFL, he'll have plenty of time to improve. It was an impressive run while it lasted and it did take them to the playoffs. i know one thing for sure, fade the Broncos next time out.
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    Tim Tebow is only in his 2nd year in the NFL, he'll have plenty of time to improve. It was an impressive run while it lasted and it did take them to the playoffs. i know one thing for sure, fade the Broncos next time out.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 9:02 PM ET #1989

    Quote Originally Posted by gilligansisland:

    Who wouldn't be proud of an 8-8 record?Even better losing the last three games of the season,how could a team not be proud of that? I have to admit this team is on a roll.

    You can’t dispute what I said so you attempt to shift the focus to whether an 8-8 record is something to be proud of.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilligansisland:

    Who wouldn't be proud of an 8-8 record?Even better losing the last three games of the season,how could a team not be proud of that? I have to admit this team is on a roll.

    You can’t dispute what I said so you attempt to shift the focus to whether an 8-8 record is something to be proud of.  

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 9:03 PM ET #1990

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    What exactly are you arguing? Is it that  Tebow doesn't suck?(as or QB or as a person) I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but he has regressed the past several weeks. He has sucked as a QB.They backed into the playoffs plain and simple. He has not improved. He looks horrible time and time again. He just  turned in the worst performance of a QB all year. 6-20 for 60 yards and an interception. What is there to defend. The Broncos defense isn't very good but in several wins they played very well. They played well today. And i dare to say that if i look up some stats that it might be one of the most putrid games by a starting QB in the last 10 years. He has also had some good special teams play bail him out this year. Time will only tell but right now he doesn't look very good. Not at all.

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    What exactly are you arguing? Is it that  Tebow doesn't suck?(as or QB or as a person) I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but he has regressed the past several weeks. He has sucked as a QB.They backed into the playoffs plain and simple. He has not improved. He looks horrible time and time again. He just  turned in the worst performance of a QB all year. 6-20 for 60 yards and an interception. What is there to defend. The Broncos defense isn't very good but in several wins they played very well. They played well today. And i dare to say that if i look up some stats that it might be one of the most putrid games by a starting QB in the last 10 years. He has also had some good special teams play bail him out this year. Time will only tell but right now he doesn't look very good. Not at all.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 9:05 PM ET #1991

    Quote Originally Posted by dgnerate:

    Tim Tebow is only in his 2nd year in the NFL, he'll have plenty of time to improve. It was an impressive run while it lasted and it did take them to the playoffs. i know one thing for sure, fade the Broncos next time out.

    As long as the line isn’t something ridiculous I’ll be on the Steelers.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgnerate:

    Tim Tebow is only in his 2nd year in the NFL, he'll have plenty of time to improve. It was an impressive run while it lasted and it did take them to the playoffs. i know one thing for sure, fade the Broncos next time out.

    As long as the line isn’t something ridiculous I’ll be on the Steelers.  

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 9:10 PM ET #1992

    Not sure how Big Ben's ankle is going to be- i heard he was limping around today but i didn't get to watch that game- Mendenhall also out - could set up for a nice under
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    Not sure how Big Ben's ankle is going to be- i heard he was limping around today but i didn't get to watch that game- Mendenhall also out - could set up for a nice under
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:

    straightshooter-

    What exactly are you arguing? Is it that  Tebow doesn't suck?(as or QB or as a person) I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but he has regressed the past several weeks. He has sucked as a QB.They backed into the playoffs plain and simple. He has not improved. He looks horrible time and time again. He just  turned in the worst performance of a QB all year. 6-20 for 60 yards and an interception. What is there to defend. The Broncos defense isn't very good but in several wins they played very well. They played well today. And i dare to say that if i look up some stats that it might be one of the most putrid games by a starting QB in the last 10 years. He has also had some good special teams play bail him out this year. Time will only tell but right now he doesn't look very good. Not at all.

    That all things considered (2nd year player, new coach, missed the most important offseason of a player's career, etc.) Tim Tebow doesn’t suck.

    He’s also a good leader and makes others around him better.

     

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    straightshooter-

    What exactly are you arguing? Is it that  Tebow doesn't suck?(as or QB or as a person) I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but he has regressed the past several weeks. He has sucked as a QB.They backed into the playoffs plain and simple. He has not improved. He looks horrible time and time again. He just  turned in the worst performance of a QB all year. 6-20 for 60 yards and an interception. What is there to defend. The Broncos defense isn't very good but in several wins they played very well. They played well today. And i dare to say that if i look up some stats that it might be one of the most putrid games by a starting QB in the last 10 years. He has also had some good special teams play bail him out this year. Time will only tell but right now he doesn't look very good. Not at all.

    That all things considered (2nd year player, new coach, missed the most important offseason of a player's career, etc.) Tim Tebow doesn’t suck.

    He’s also a good leader and makes others around him better.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 9:20 PM ET #1994

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    You can’t dispute what I said so you attempt to shift the focus to whether an 8-8 record is something to be proud of.  

    Why are you so defensive? Bronco fans everywhere are wearing            t shirts that proudly say 8-8 DOESNT GET MUCH BETTER THAN THAT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    You can’t dispute what I said so you attempt to shift the focus to whether an 8-8 record is something to be proud of.  

    Why are you so defensive? Bronco fans everywhere are wearing            t shirts that proudly say 8-8 DOESNT GET MUCH BETTER THAN THAT!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 9:25 PM ET #1995

    Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:

    Not sure how Big Ben's ankle is going to be- i heard he was limping around today but i didn't get to watch that game- Mendenhall also out - could set up for a nice under

    The Steelers have the #1 defense in the NFL and the Denver defense hasn’t forced a turnover in 3 weeks.  If the Steelers can score 21 points they should probably be enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:

    Not sure how Big Ben's ankle is going to be- i heard he was limping around today but i didn't get to watch that game- Mendenhall also out - could set up for a nice under

    The Steelers have the #1 defense in the NFL and the Denver defense hasn’t forced a turnover in 3 weeks.  If the Steelers can score 21 points they should probably be enough.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 9:34 PM ET #1996

    Quote Originally Posted by gilligansisland:

    Why are you so defensive? Bronco fans everywhere are wearing            t shirts that proudly say 8-8 DOESNT GET MUCH BETTER THAN THAT!

    There's no need to get defensive. You can’t argue that Bronco fans are happy to win their first division title in over half a decade so you’re blathering about being proud of an 8-8 record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilligansisland:

    Why are you so defensive? Bronco fans everywhere are wearing            t shirts that proudly say 8-8 DOESNT GET MUCH BETTER THAN THAT!

    There's no need to get defensive. You can’t argue that Bronco fans are happy to win their first division title in over half a decade so you’re blathering about being proud of an 8-8 record.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 9:36 PM ET #1997

    Maybe but something tells me this game sets up for another close 13-6 type game-  Steelers should roll but it seems almost too easy
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    Maybe but something tells me this game sets up for another close 13-6 type game-  Steelers should roll but it seems almost too easy
     
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     6/22   60 yards passing
    6attempts  16 yards




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     6/22   60 yards passing
    6attempts  16 yards




     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2012 - 9:40 PM ET #1999

    Shooter- agreed Tebow has a nice little run- he just got too much credit and too many people acting like he was the next QB messiah- same goes with his losses but like I said several weeks ago- continuing these kind of performances has to wear on a team emotionally- especially when the defense plays good enough to put them in a position to win- we will see where this leads but i just think we saw something pretty neat and it might be the end of that- Then again, time will tell.
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    Shooter- agreed Tebow has a nice little run- he just got too much credit and too many people acting like he was the next QB messiah- same goes with his losses but like I said several weeks ago- continuing these kind of performances has to wear on a team emotionally- especially when the defense plays good enough to put them in a position to win- we will see where this leads but i just think we saw something pretty neat and it might be the end of that- Then again, time will tell.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Minion claimed Tebow was simply “decent” in that game.

    I pointed out that a 149+ passer rating is not simply decent.

    Also where did I say Tebow was better than decent or even good?

     


    Look whose hedging their bet now. If Tebow doesn't suck...the next step up is decent. And you talk as if he's great. You say you don't think he's great...but you're fighting the fact that he "doesn't suck". Suck is bad. Opposite of suck is good. Decent is the lowest level of good.

    You said that I can't admit when I'm wrong. If you try to spin this...there's no arguing with you. Plain and Simple. 

    Also...If you can't admit that the Broncos defense is better than their rankings indicate...than you obviously are just trying to fight for the sake of fighting because you can't be wrong.

    I don't care what you or the Tebow fans say. Regardless if Tebow becomes a Hall of Famer or is a backup in 2 years. You'll stand by the fact that Tebow doesn't suck and there is absolutely no arguing with you. None. And I've seen so many people go back and fourth with you and they all end up saying is that YOU are the one who can't admit that you're wrong. If you can still say that Tebow is good after what you have seen from him...than you are, I'm sorry to say, clueless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Minion claimed Tebow was simply “decent” in that game.

    I pointed out that a 149+ passer rating is not simply decent.

    Also where did I say Tebow was better than decent or even good?

     


    Look whose hedging their bet now. If Tebow doesn't suck...the next step up is decent. And you talk as if he's great. You say you don't think he's great...but you're fighting the fact that he "doesn't suck". Suck is bad. Opposite of suck is good. Decent is the lowest level of good.

    You said that I can't admit when I'm wrong. If you try to spin this...there's no arguing with you. Plain and Simple. 

    Also...If you can't admit that the Broncos defense is better than their rankings indicate...than you obviously are just trying to fight for the sake of fighting because you can't be wrong.

    I don't care what you or the Tebow fans say. Regardless if Tebow becomes a Hall of Famer or is a backup in 2 years. You'll stand by the fact that Tebow doesn't suck and there is absolutely no arguing with you. None. And I've seen so many people go back and fourth with you and they all end up saying is that YOU are the one who can't admit that you're wrong. If you can still say that Tebow is good after what you have seen from him...than you are, I'm sorry to say, clueless.
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