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Posted: #201
Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

Hey i will yell u what....Tormorrow the Magic are playing the Warriors.......

Let me bet you $10k that the game will go over 211.5....

If it wins, u owe me $10k......

It is loses, i owe u nothing.......

How does that sound...?

Tell me the difference between this bet and your BET that there is no God?




I guess I'm reading this all the wrong way, but it sounds like you are openly saying 'I believe in God because I'm afraid of being wrong and it won't hurt to try it' ... wow... great argument for religion.
 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Spitfire15]


I can't wait.  I'm a good person (except when the Rams lose)... I really believe that I don't do much that your God would look down on... I just cannot WAIT until I die and float up to the pearly gates and God says 'hmmm your resume looks good... very high sin to good ratio... oh but what's this??  You didn't believe that someone could come back from the dead??  BURN IN HELL, SINNER!!!!"

What a good guy he must be.  Going to 'hell' for not believing.  Looks like I'll be sharing it with everyone in the world that isn't a christian/catholic/whatever you are
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The CostosRostos argument..............

 
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I agree with you spit. As I stated, by no means am I some model catholic. I do a whole bunch of dumb immoral shit. But I think just the whole having it instilled in you from the beginning is a good start. Ha but like you said, the ole sin to good ratio is money ha. I like it.
 
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and just to clarify my stance on all this nonsense,,,,,,,,,,

I'm would actually consider myself more close to agnostic as well--because i'm not insane enough to believe that I truly know 100% what happens when one dies -- but I don't like to be lumped into a group, but I have no problem when people classify me with the atheists - because their logic seems more,,,,,uh,,,,,LOGICAL

but you monkeys that actually believe there is this magical land called "heaven" where people just sit on clouds and strum harps and hug each other bow down to Team J-Man 24/7 are just insane---clinically insane...........

and my stance, more than anything, is being Anti-Organized-Religion -- that which was created to manipulate the masses and brainwash the young and old alike  since the beginning of time.  There is nothing more amusing to me than to think back to my childhood, when we used to never miss a sunday "mass" where we'd sing crazy songs and "worship" invisible fairies on some "alter", drink J-Mans "blood" and eat J-Man's body --- I mean think about this crazy shit people --- DRINK SOME DUDES BLOOD ---WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT ABOUT??????

.........  I mean, at the very least,  for those of you that do believe in the invisible sorcerer J-Man---don't you think he is one conceited and pompous fuckstick, to make people come and worship his feet every Sunday, with his invisible arms extended saying "More, More!!!! Worship Me!!!!  Worship Me!!!!

Wake Up People.

----- Caca the Below Average

 
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Posted: #205
Quote Originally Posted by Spitfire15:

Jesus never rose from the dead.  I can prove it, because people don't rise from the dead.



How's that for summarizing how I feel about Catholicism/Christianity/Whats the fucking difference, i dont know.
Come on buddy you have no idea whether he did or not. I have faith that he did. BUt you could not say he didnt. You could say I dont think he did because no one else has sure. BUt unless you were there you cannot say that he didnt. Dont just try to stir things up. Much of what you say I pay attention to but this nonsense like most of this thread.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by NoWorries21:

Come on buddy you have no idea whether he did or not. I have faith that he did. BUt you could not say he didnt. You could say I dont think he did because no one else has sure. BUt unless you were there you cannot say that he didnt. Dont just try to stir things up. Much of what you say I pay attention to but this nonsense like most of this thread.

 

exhibit a,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1 of the clinically insane,,,,,,,,,,,

Take your argument into a court of law and see what the judge says to you.........

"Your honor, my "faith" leads me to believe that John Doe committed this murder, I have no evidence, witnesses, or facts to support this, but trust me buddy, my "faith" tells me that John Doe killed this man, so we must convict. I rest my case." 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by cacabware:

and just to clarify my stance on all this nonsense,,,,,,,,,,

I'm would actually consider myself more close to agnostic as well--because i'm not insane enough to believe that I truly know 100% what happens when one dies -- but I don't like to be lumped into a group, but I have no problem when people classify me with the atheists - because their logic seems more,,,,,uh,,,,,LOGICAL

but you monkeys that actually believe there is this magical land called "heaven" where people just sit on clouds and strum harps and hug each other bow down to Team J-Man 24/7 are just insane---clinically insane...........

and my stance, more than anything, is being Anti-Organized-Religion -- that which was created to manipulate the masses and brainwash the young and old alike  since the beginning of time.  There is nothing more amusing to me than to think back to my childhood, when we used to never miss a sunday "mass" where we'd sing crazy songs and "worship" invisible fairies on some "alter", drink J-Mans "blood" and eat J-Man's body --- I mean think about this crazy shit people --- DRINK SOME DUDES BLOOD ---WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT ABOUT??????

.........  I mean, at the very least,  for those of you that do believe in the invisible sorcerer J-Man---don't you think he is one conceited and pompous fuckstick, to make people come and worship his feet every Sunday, with his invisible arms extended saying "More, More!!!! Worship Me!!!!  Worship Me!!!!

Wake Up People.

----- Caca the Below Average

First of all I understand a lot of what you say. I dont appreciate you calling it nonsense but its an internet forum so oh well. I am one of the most logical people you have ever met, well kinda met. Thats I am a terrible gambler. Logical picks usually equals losers. I base a lot of my life on logic. I didnt grow up in a church. My family doesnt go. I started when I was 16 and could drive myself. I was in church pretty much daily. I led about all the student led services at a big church by 17 and 18. I then, coincidentally, got a full ride to play golf at a D II baptist school. The only way I could go to college and play golf would be this way as my parents had little money. THis Baptist school was the worst thing that coulda happened as everyone was judgemental and "Better than me"  THats why I side with guys like you and Spitfire in these kind of things. As long as you dont judge me for I what I do and believe everything is ok. But amongst that I find comfort in Christ. I feel the way I made it outta my household was thanks to his guidance. YOu dont have to believe but I do. I am not saying that science and God cannot coexist because there is a ton of evidence in science. But I do believe man started somewhere and I believe it was Adam and EVe and gOD created them. Take it for what its worth.  BUt dont judge as that is doing exactly what you have a problem with.
 
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If faith was a relevant argument,,,,,,,,,our judicial system would be in DEEP SHIT.............. 

 

Faith = making a virtue out of lack of thought

 
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Quote Originally Posted by NoWorries21:

First of all I understand a lot of what you say. I dont appreciate you calling it nonsense but its an internet forum so oh well. I am one of the most logical people you have ever met, well kinda met. Thats I am a terrible gambler. Logical picks usually equals losers. I base a lot of my life on logic. I didnt grow up in a church. My family doesnt go. I started when I was 16 and could drive myself. I was in church pretty much daily. I led about all the student led services at a big church by 17 and 18. I then, coincidentally, got a full ride to play golf at a D II baptist school. The only way I could go to college and play golf would be this way as my parents had little money. THis Baptist school was the worst thing that coulda happened as everyone was judgemental and "Better than me"  THats why I side with guys like you and Spitfire in these kind of things. As long as you dont judge me for I what I do and believe everything is ok. But amongst that I find comfort in Christ. I feel the way I made it outta my household was thanks to his guidance. YOu dont have to believe but I do. I am not saying that science and God cannot coexist because there is a ton of evidence in science. But I do believe man started somewhere and I believe it was Adam and EVe and gOD created them. Take it for what its worth.  BUt dont judge as that is doing exactly what you have a problem with.

 

all good dude,,,,,,if that's the route you want to go, then so be it, but like my style of gambling - i'm gonna side with the smart money, not the public 

 
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where you at Costos Rostos ????? I'm ready to battle this morning.............

 "I'm going to rip out (your) heart and feed it to (you). My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat your children. Praise be to Allah."

 
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Quote Originally Posted by cacabware:

where you at Costos Rostos ????? I'm ready to battle this morning.............

 "I'm going to rip out (your) heart and feed it to (you). My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat your children. Praise be to Allah."



That's really smart - getting into an argument about God on an internet gambling blog. Make sure you sign up for MENSA today also.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by cacabware:

and just to clarify my stance on all this nonsense,,,,,,,,,,

I'm would actually consider myself more close to agnostic as well--because i'm not insane enough to believe that I truly know 100% what happens when one dies -- but I don't like to be lumped into a group, but I have no problem when people classify me with the atheists - because their logic seems more,,,,,uh,,,,,LOGICAL

but you monkeys that actually believe there is this magical land called "heaven" where people just sit on clouds and strum harps and hug each other bow down to Team J-Man 24/7 are just insane---clinically insane...........

and my stance, more than anything, is being Anti-Organized-Religion -- that which was created to manipulate the masses and brainwash the young and old alike  since the beginning of time.  There is nothing more amusing to me than to think back to my childhood, when we used to never miss a sunday "mass" where we'd sing crazy songs and "worship" invisible fairies on some "alter", drink J-Mans "blood" and eat J-Man's body --- I mean think about this crazy shit people --- DRINK SOME DUDES BLOOD ---WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT ABOUT??????

.........  I mean, at the very least,  for those of you that do believe in the invisible sorcerer J-Man---don't you think he is one conceited and pompous fuckstick, to make people come and worship his feet every Sunday, with his invisible arms extended saying "More, More!!!! Worship Me!!!!  Worship Me!!!!

Wake Up People.

----- Caca the Below Average


Well said brother caca. Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by callmetim:



That's really smart - getting into an argument about God on an internet gambling blog. Make sure you sign up for MENSA today also.

 

uh,,,hate to break it to you timtim --- but MENSA isn't something you "sign up for".....................

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by callmetim:



That's really smart - getting into an argument about God on an internet gambling blog. Make sure you sign up for MENSA today also.

 

TimTIm---

do you have anything of substance to offer this morning, or just your avatar, of what appears to be a 14 year old, promoting your devotion to pedophilia ????  

--- Caca the Poor

 
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Quote Originally Posted by cacabware:

 

TimTIm---

do you have anything of substance to offer this morning, or just your avatar, of what appears to be a 14 year old, promoting your devotion to pedophilia ????  

--- Caca the Poor

 

OH WOW,,,i thought i was being funny, but after reading her shirt,,,,,this is EXACTLY what you are doing --- 

TEAM J-MAN AT IT'S FINEST ............... 

 
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14 year olds with tits that size? Right....
 
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Quote Originally Posted by callmetim:

14 year olds with tits that size? Right....

 

"ADMIT IT, YOU'D GO TO JAIL FOR THIS" 

 

my bad,,,,,,,,,,,,you're right timtim 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by cacabware:

 

"ADMIT IT, YOU'D GO TO JAIL FOR THIS" 

 

my bad,,,,,,,,,,,,you're right timtim 



1st time I've been right all year!
 
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I thought Rostos had already made the dumbest argument on this board...but he topped even himself. "There must be a purpose to life." Why? You can't give any legitimate reason as to why there must be a purpose to life. Life is utterly meaningless. You're born. You live a little. You die. That's it. Just like every other creature on this planet. Could there be a purpose? Of course. Does there have to be one? Absolutely not.

- Side note to whoever said he believes Jesus actually rose from the dead: please do yourself a favor and don't enter these arguments, you cannot win if you honestly believe someone rose from the dead lmao
 
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My Mother died from cancer. She wanted to live and I wanted her to also.Heaven can wait .There is work for us all to do here each day.

Ask God in your prayer to him how to handle this dilemma.

He will determine the legnth and intensity of this earthly struggle.You may even be drawn to him which is any gambler's dream even if they aren't aware of it as yet

 
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Quote Originally Posted by TwinTebow:

I agree with you spit. As I stated, by no means am I some model catholic. I do a whole bunch of dumb immoral shit. But I think just the whole having it instilled in you from the beginning is a good start. Ha but like you said, the ole sin to good ratio is money ha. I like it.



I was raised catholic, and I actually think it can be a very good tool for instilling good values into kids.  But I think the kids should also be taught that they don't HAVE to believe everything that is taught in church, and it's more to teach valuable life lessons and how to be a good person.  Either way, I like anything that keeps people from being scumbags...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

Just a question to finally end this discussion.........I am particularly interested to know what your purpose (or everyones) purspose of this life is then.......

After all..........Surely there has to be a purpose why we are here.......

I get up in the morning to go to work to earn an income to feed myself, roof, shelter etc etc....

I drive a car to get me from point a to b....

I eat to fill my stomach

I sleep to rest...

The sun is there so life can exist here, plants etc etc etc.

Basically saying everything u see and do has a purpose.....

As a Catholic, i believe the purpose why we are here on this earth is to learn and love, try and live like Jesus in preperation for the afterlife...(tests).........

For atheists, what is there purpose, surely if everything we do and see has a purpose, then surely our existance has a purpose.....

It cant be to earn as much money as we can, or get as many earthly possesions etc etc cause we cant take it with you......

So, by your definition, we die and there is just blackness, nothing etc etc, so what was the purpose of this life then......

If all the micro things we do on this earth has a purpose and the earth itself has a purpose, then what is the purpose of this life?

Why hasnt anyone answered this question yet........I am most interested to hear responses......

As i said, everything we do and see has a purpose.........If the micro things we do and the earth we see has a purpose, then SURELY the very existence of humanity has a purpose.....This is consistent with as i said with everything we do and see.,....

It doesnt make sense of why we are here if we simply die and thats it............considering everything we do and see has a purpose,.....

 
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Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

I thought Rostos had already made the dumbest argument on this board...but he topped even himself. "There must be a purpose to life." Why? You can't give any legitimate reason as to why there must be a purpose to life. Life is utterly meaningless. You're born. You live a little. You die. That's it. Just like every other creature on this planet. Could there be a purpose? Of course. Does there have to be one? Absolutely not.

- Side note to whoever said he believes Jesus actually rose from the dead: please do yourself a favor and don't enter these arguments, you cannot win if you honestly believe someone rose from the dead lmao

So the earth we live in has a purpose (support life on earth)....Everything we do on this earth has a purpose but the very reason we are on this earth has ZERO purpose? Absolutely no purpose at all? All this for nothing.........

interesting........i supoose people that dont have anything in there lives, love, friends, job, use drugs and alacohol every day dont have a real purpose and cant see much hope have a different perspective......Not saying thats u cause i dont know u, just using those type of people as an example........

 
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There is absolutely no reason everything MUST have a purpose and you can't come up with anything to prove this. Believing everything has a purpose is just as impossible to prove as the existence (or in your defense, the nonexistance) of God. It's a belief. It doesn't give clarity to any argument for either side.
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:


"There must be a purpose to life." Why? You can't give any legitimate reason as to why there must be a purpose to life. Life is utterly meaningless. You're born. You live a little. You die. That's it.


What an empty life you must lead.
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