Religion??? WTF

No response to this either.  Surprise.

Quote Originally Posted by RJSizzle:



Whoa....to assume that someone needs god for any of the above is crazy. You cant make assumptions.

If people have trouble in life, maybe they need guidance/advice - I agree. But to assume they would seek it in something that not only doesnt exist, but doesnt answer back? Its the least efficient way to do get the job done. Its also the least logical.

I am not going to give anyone shit for believing, but these arguments you guys are making are complete.....well, for lack of a better word, crap. Its all assumptions about other people and what they need and faith. Its not concrete. I would never go around telling others what they need. I am not holier than thou, enough, to think that I should be evangelizing my thoughts like such.

EVeryone has trouble in life, everyone.......not one person is immune to this.........

Again, man has a free will, he can do what he wants, God never promised that he will stop men flying planes into buildings, rape, murder, sickness, but he did promise eternal life to those who live by his rules in the bible and to those who ask for forgiveness.....

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So murder all you want....rape all you want....but ask for His forgiveness and you're golden? 

Give us a break, there is only so much typing i can do in a short space of time.....

I cannot answer in this.........Again, people are put through different tests in life.

Again missing the point............

I dont know everything, but if u continue to do something even after u have asked for forgiveness , then how genuine were u in asking for forgiveness, then u will go to another place......

if u are married and your wife cheats on u the forst time, u are likely to forgive her after she asks for your forgiveness the 1st time knowing what she did was wrong.......

After the 1st time, if she continued to do it time and time and again, what will u say?

if people ask for forgiveness GENUINELY, they wont do it again.....

Your biggest issue is that u are judging others............

EVERY HUMAN BEING ON THIS PLANET IS A SINNER, the eskimo, u and i.........EVERYONE......

THAT IS WHY U SHOULD NOT JUDGE, dont look at examples of other people......Just focus on yourself and try and be a good person with the help of GOD...........DONT JUDGE OTHERS....Number 1 rule........

You're missing the point.  I want a simple answer.  In my example the killer and rapist is genuine in the belief in God....one day before they die.  Do they go to heaven?

And the rapist victim is genuine in what they do.  They have served mankind to their upmost ability, but don't believe in God.

Does she go to hell?

Simple questions.  Yes or no?

EVERY HUMAN BEING ON THIS PLANET IS A SINNER, the eskimo, u and i.........EVERYONE......

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True.  But this person led the good life.  But just didn't know about God.  Do they go to heaven or not?  Simple question...yes or no.

Doesn't matter if you murder someone, but if you are genuine, then you are golden?  Props if that works for you. 

What about People who say they dont believe in GOD cause they havent seen him, yet the same people believe in Aliens even though they havent seen them?

Jesus said on the cross.............Forgive them father for they DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING....

People who mureder others THAT DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE doing and ask for forgiveness WILL be forgiven.....

IF U KNOW WHAT U ARE DOING AND STILL DO IT AND SAY I WILL ASK FOR FORGIVENESS, IT WILL BE OK, i dont believe will be forgiven.......u cannot use this for your convinience.......

DOnt get the 2 wrong...........

Your school of thought in not believing in GOD (BY WHAT U ARE SAYING) appears to be one for convinience

Doesnt matter, dont judge......

What about when someone looks at a priest and say's, oh they must be a good person but they molested children and u dont fond out 50 yrs later,.......

DONT JUDGE, get it out of your head........It is not upto us to determine who is a better person , who is not...

DONT JUDGE, get it out of your head

Cant u read?

People on here have said they dont believe in GOD cause they havent seen him........yet the same people have said they believe Aliens exist.......have they seen Aliens........?

Sounds hypocrtical doesnt it?

if GOD hasnt touched u in some kind of way in your life, then i pray he does.

Alot of people here it sounds like do not believe in GOD as it is convinient for them and justification for there sinful life so they do not hope to face judgement one day.........

Everyone is a sinner,everyone will be judged......

So let me get this straight, everyone comes on this earth, just enjoys there life, once its over, goes into a dark place for eternity?

WOW,

Any reasonable person who reads the bible will recognize it as fiction.  I am amazed how that people can believe what the bible says is true and will  accept bronze age myths as facts.  The bible was written by people who thought the Earth was flat.  Why would any rational person believe in a talking snake, a 600 year old man that built a boat that housed at least two of every animal in the world.  This would include 10 million species.  That seems like a difficult task for a man of that age.  These myths are corrosive to rational thought and science.  There are people that believe that the dinosaurs existed with humans.  These people watch the flinstons as if it was a documentary.  Most Christians have not even read the entire bible.  I have read the bible and I gets much worse than just these fairy tale stories.  The bible promotes genocide, slavery, and rape.  Many are quick to cherry pick the topics that they like but discard the ones that they do not... The bible says anyone collecting sticks on the sabbath shoud be stoned to death.

The worst is these ignorant and delusional people believe they can force their irrational views on others.  I can't even buy beer on Sundays where I live because these people have contaminated the laws in my state with their nonsence.

The dark places are a coffin or an infermary.....so I guess you plan to be judged by someone who is what, fictional.....maybe we can preschedule you a date with the Peoples Court to settle the difference.....if you think it's anything other than what you said in your last sentence then you are more brain washed than ever.....the mere fact that people dictate their life on some belief that has been told through writtings and altered and chopped all to different versions is quite comical...go ahead and believe what you want, but the only ones judging you when you die are those that are still alive and that is the only true story told in any revelation son.......