Proof that there is no god.

The only reason a person believes in any "god" is because they were raised to believe that.  It's as simple as that.  It's a fairy tale passed down from generation to generation.  If you grew up wild in the woods you'd probably believe that the sun was a god, or that there was a god who controlled water, animals, etc.

Here's my take: human beings are scared, ruthless, ignorant pieces of shit.  Instead of creating a paradise on Earth, which we could easily do, we scam each other over and continue to rape this planet.  So, as a counter measure, religion is 'invented' as a way to keep people in line...a set of rules and guidelines to follow so we don't destroy each other completely.  It's a man made concept and hey, if it works, great.  "Don't kill, don't steal, etc."

My guess is 10,000 years from now, many of the traditional religions that people subscribe to now will be totally replaced by other, similarly insane, religions.

And if it's all faith-based...then aren't I just as valid believing in KLONDOR a god that I just invented 2 seconds ago who gave birth to the sun and then married the moon and had planets as their offspring?  Isn't that just as valid as Christianity?  If that's what I believe?  Maybe my new religion will catch on and 2,000 years from now all the lunkheads on the planet will believe in KLONDOR.

The only reason a person believes in any "god" is because they were raised to believe that.  It's as simple as that.  It's a fairy tale passed down from generation to generation.  If you grew up wild in the woods you'd probably believe that the sun was a god, or that there was a god who controlled water, animals, etc.

Here's my take: human beings are scared, ruthless, ignorant pieces of shit.  Instead of creating a paradise on Earth, which we could easily do, we scam each other over and continue to rape this planet.  So, as a counter measure, religion is 'invented' as a way to keep people in line...a set of rules and guidelines to follow so we don't destroy each other completely.  It's a man made concept and hey, if it works, great.  "Don't kill, don't steal, etc."

My guess is 10,000 years from now, many of the traditional religions that people subscribe to now will be totally replaced by other, similarly insane, religions.

And if it's all faith-based...then aren't I just as valid believing in KLONDOR a god that I just invented 2 seconds ago who gave birth to the sun and then married the moon and had planets as their offspring?  Isn't that just as valid as Christianity?  If that's what I believe?  Maybe my new religion will catch on and 2,000 years from now all the lunkheads on the planet will believe in KLONDOR.

Quote Originally Posted by AgentCooper:

The only reason a person believes in any "god" is because they were raised to believe that.  It's as simple as that. 

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SirJohn, I don't doubt the results of the survey...but was it done with a bunch of adults who had already been exposed to the world's major religions growing up?  If so then it's useless. 

If someone lives their life NEVER hearing about Jesus than that person will NEVER believe in him.  Sure, that person might believe in a sun god or a sea god, but that's only because they don't have the scientific education to explain the naturally occurring events taking place around them.  Native Americans didn't ever once believe in Jesus, but they did have religion...and what was it?  A guideline on how to live their lives in peace with their environment and neighbors. 

I choose to believe in no religion, simply because how can I tell if one is right or wrong?  How can you believe in a talking bush and a man rising from the dead, and then point the finger and be like "No, no, nope, you're wrong, Indians, animals don't have spirits, you're religion isn't valid."  The whole thing is laughable.

SirJohn, I don't doubt the results of the survey...but was it done with a bunch of adults who had already been exposed to the world's major religions growing up?  If so then it's useless. 

If someone lives their life NEVER hearing about Jesus than that person will NEVER believe in him.  Sure, that person might believe in a sun god or a sea god, but that's only because they don't have the scientific education to explain the naturally occurring events taking place around them.  Native Americans didn't ever once believe in Jesus, but they did have religion...and what was it?  A guideline on how to live their lives in peace with their environment and neighbors. 

I choose to believe in no religion, simply because how can I tell if one is right or wrong?  How can you believe in a talking bush and a man rising from the dead, and then point the finger and be like "No, no, nope, you're wrong, Indians, animals don't have spirits, you're religion isn't valid."  The whole thing is laughable.

" There is no logic that can penetrate a belief that is founded on a lie"

Alligators don't need to talk because they have perfected the model of lying in the water and grabbing somrthing coming to drink.

Quote Originally Posted by RJS:

Sweden and Denmark are among the least religious countries in the world.
Life expectancy, child welfare, literacy, schooling, economic equality, standard of living, happiness, low crime, competitiveness etc., Denmark and Sweden stand in the first tier.
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Well of course they are not going to have a lot of problems running their countries when you consider the population of sweden is 9.4 mil and denmark is 5.2 mil.

The less people you have to govern or deal with the less problems you encounter...capiche?

It has nothing to do with them being less religious it is mainly attributed to their relatively small populations.