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    Posted: May. 8, 2011 - 2:10 AM ET #276

    Join me in reciting The Lord's Prayer: Let us bow our heads.

    Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever, Amen.----Matthew 6:9:13

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

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    Join me in reciting The Lord's Prayer: Let us bow our heads.

    Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever, Amen.----Matthew 6:9:13

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2011 - 2:11 AM ET #277

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    The probability of all the life supporting factors occuring at the same time to support any form of life is

    10 to the power of -99....

    If you want to believe that, then good luck to you


    Of course I would believe that. Any rational person with 1% of a brain would. If the process of creating planets and solar systems occurs 10 to the power of -9999999 times, the odds of at least ONE planet forming that can sustain life is almost 100%. When I get a number so close to 100% that it might as well be 100%, I accept it as true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    The probability of all the life supporting factors occuring at the same time to support any form of life is

    10 to the power of -99....

    If you want to believe that, then good luck to you


    Of course I would believe that. Any rational person with 1% of a brain would. If the process of creating planets and solar systems occurs 10 to the power of -9999999 times, the odds of at least ONE planet forming that can sustain life is almost 100%. When I get a number so close to 100% that it might as well be 100%, I accept it as true.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2011 - 2:26 AM ET #278

    kittyKatz, do u really understand those odds?

    A Harvard professor calculated those of being equivalent to a pair of sixes (dices) being rolled 50,000 times in a row......

    If u rolled it 10,000 times in a row then missed on the 10,001st go, then you have to start again until you get 50,000 in a row.......

    Stop and think about it, roll the dices in your head....

    If you had 1 trillion years to attempt it, do you think it could still be pulled off?

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    kittyKatz, do u really understand those odds?

    A Harvard professor calculated those of being equivalent to a pair of sixes (dices) being rolled 50,000 times in a row......

    If u rolled it 10,000 times in a row then missed on the 10,001st go, then you have to start again until you get 50,000 in a row.......

    Stop and think about it, roll the dices in your head....

    If you had 1 trillion years to attempt it, do you think it could still be pulled off?

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2011 - 2:35 AM ET #279

    Quote Originally Posted by MontGarry:

    Obviously little Cindy wanted to be a prostitute ever since she could remember... ever since daddy started molesting her at age 4. But after running away ,Cindy is 13 now and choses not to be a prostitute. She prays and prays and she desires to become free of her pimp. She has a loving heart and has a very strong relationship with God. But nevertheless as we check in on Cindy six months later, she is still a prostitute and has picked up a nasty crack habit as well. Cindy is adamant that she doesn't want to person her body anymore, and she has done everything that God has asked. She has loved him, and talked to him at least twice a day.

    Why is God being a prick and why is Cindy is still a prostitute?

    Each individual person is in charge of what they do in this world......

    I for not one minute assume this life is easy......This life is very very hard....That is where forgiveness comes into it......

    I wasnt abused as a child and i would never know what it is like, but i assume if the abused person forgives there attacker, then i would assume they would go on and live a normal life.....

    This may sound nuts to you and is extrodinarily more difficult to do than to say.....

    God forgives you if you forgive the people who have sinned against you. God doesnt forgive you if you dont forgive others (ALOT EASIER SAID THAT DONE I KNOW) but thats the way it is.

    I am sure if Cindy forgave her attacker, she wouldnt go down the path of prostitution....

    As Jesus said, "it is easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than someone to enter the kingdon of heaven"......

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    Quote Originally Posted by MontGarry:

    Obviously little Cindy wanted to be a prostitute ever since she could remember... ever since daddy started molesting her at age 4. But after running away ,Cindy is 13 now and choses not to be a prostitute. She prays and prays and she desires to become free of her pimp. She has a loving heart and has a very strong relationship with God. But nevertheless as we check in on Cindy six months later, she is still a prostitute and has picked up a nasty crack habit as well. Cindy is adamant that she doesn't want to person her body anymore, and she has done everything that God has asked. She has loved him, and talked to him at least twice a day.

    Why is God being a prick and why is Cindy is still a prostitute?

    Each individual person is in charge of what they do in this world......

    I for not one minute assume this life is easy......This life is very very hard....That is where forgiveness comes into it......

    I wasnt abused as a child and i would never know what it is like, but i assume if the abused person forgives there attacker, then i would assume they would go on and live a normal life.....

    This may sound nuts to you and is extrodinarily more difficult to do than to say.....

    God forgives you if you forgive the people who have sinned against you. God doesnt forgive you if you dont forgive others (ALOT EASIER SAID THAT DONE I KNOW) but thats the way it is.

    I am sure if Cindy forgave her attacker, she wouldnt go down the path of prostitution....

    As Jesus said, "it is easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than someone to enter the kingdon of heaven"......

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2011 - 2:58 AM ET #280

    Even if there is an initial creator (since Rostos refuses to accept the math, we will accept that for now), the evidence overwhelmingly points to the fact that god has no impact on the lives of humans, doesn't care about the lives of humans, and there is no purpose in life. You live to enjoy life, then you die. There is no afterlife (because then, what's the purpose of life if you can die and keep on existing). So, accepting for a moment that there was an initial creator, at most, he created the universe, set things in motion, and then said "peace..." and he hasn't been heard from since.
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    Even if there is an initial creator (since Rostos refuses to accept the math, we will accept that for now), the evidence overwhelmingly points to the fact that god has no impact on the lives of humans, doesn't care about the lives of humans, and there is no purpose in life. You live to enjoy life, then you die. There is no afterlife (because then, what's the purpose of life if you can die and keep on existing). So, accepting for a moment that there was an initial creator, at most, he created the universe, set things in motion, and then said "peace..." and he hasn't been heard from since.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2011 - 3:53 AM ET #281

    You think that you can front when Revelation comes yeeeyyyy neneneneeoo
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    You think that you can front when Revelation comes yeeeyyyy neneneneeoo
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2011 - 9:01 AM ET #282

    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    Join me in reciting The Lord's Prayer: Let us bow our heads.

    Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever, Amen.----Matthew 6:9:13

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

    Fake.

    God is ashamed of you.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    Join me in reciting The Lord's Prayer: Let us bow our heads.

    Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever, Amen.----Matthew 6:9:13

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

    Fake.

    God is ashamed of you.

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2011 - 9:02 AM ET #283

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    kittyKatz, do u really understand those odds?

    A Harvard professor calculated those of being equivalent to a pair of sixes (dices) being rolled 50,000 times in a row......

    If u rolled it 10,000 times in a row then missed on the 10,001st go, then you have to start again until you get 50,000 in a row.......

    Stop and think about it, roll the dices in your head....

    If you had 1 trillion years to attempt it, do you think it could still be pulled off?

    Your lack of understanding of probability is astounding.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    kittyKatz, do u really understand those odds?

    A Harvard professor calculated those of being equivalent to a pair of sixes (dices) being rolled 50,000 times in a row......

    If u rolled it 10,000 times in a row then missed on the 10,001st go, then you have to start again until you get 50,000 in a row.......

    Stop and think about it, roll the dices in your head....

    If you had 1 trillion years to attempt it, do you think it could still be pulled off?

    Your lack of understanding of probability is astounding.

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2011 - 1:24 PM ET #284

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

    Are babies who die, and then go to heaven, babies If yes, do they grow up If they do, do people keep getting older or do they stop at a certain age Are people who die when they are 100, still 100 in Heaven That would suck Not sure I would even want to live for eternity...

    Please tell me how I'm judging here. Asking questions is judging Or do you have a problem with the questions I'm asking because it makes your beliefs look silly

    Still waiting for an answer rostos
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    Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

    Are babies who die, and then go to heaven, babies If yes, do they grow up If they do, do people keep getting older or do they stop at a certain age Are people who die when they are 100, still 100 in Heaven That would suck Not sure I would even want to live for eternity...

    Please tell me how I'm judging here. Asking questions is judging Or do you have a problem with the questions I'm asking because it makes your beliefs look silly

    Still waiting for an answer rostos
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2011 - 3:57 PM ET #285

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodogjoe:

    tell me that there is a god im 55 i really hope theres something after death.

    There is something after death...there is hell and there is Heaven, the choice is yours. Hopefully you pick the right path and not the path of the wicked.

    Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding. Seek his will in all you do, and he will show you which path to take.----Proverbs 3:5:6

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodogjoe:

    tell me that there is a god im 55 i really hope theres something after death.

    There is something after death...there is hell and there is Heaven, the choice is yours. Hopefully you pick the right path and not the path of the wicked.

    Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding. Seek his will in all you do, and he will show you which path to take.----Proverbs 3:5:6

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2011 - 4:10 PM ET #286

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Fake.

    God is ashamed of you.

    Those who contro their tongue will have a long life; opening your mouth can ruin everything. ----Proverbs 13:3

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Fake.

    God is ashamed of you.

    Those who contro their tongue will have a long life; opening your mouth can ruin everything. ----Proverbs 13:3

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2011 - 4:16 PM ET #287

    Correction: Those who control their tongue will have a long life;

     

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    Correction: Those who control their tongue will have a long life;

     

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2011 - 4:51 PM ET #288

    But those who don't control their tongue won't necessarily have a short life... so basically you said nothing.
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    But those who don't control their tongue won't necessarily have a short life... so basically you said nothing.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    But those who don't control their tongue won't necessarily have a short life... so basically you said nothing.

    The words of the godly encourage many, but fools are destroyed by their lack of common sense. ----Proverbs 10:21

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    But those who don't control their tongue won't necessarily have a short life... so basically you said nothing.

    The words of the godly encourage many, but fools are destroyed by their lack of common sense. ----Proverbs 10:21

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

     

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2011 - 5:13 PM ET #290

    So what you're saying is you're a fool because you lack common sense.
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    So what you're saying is you're a fool because you lack common sense.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Your lack of understanding of probability is astounding.

    No, i am merely stating the absurdity of the probability....The probabilty is beyond human comprehension...

    hey, if you want to believe that everything we see, hear, touch and observe is the result of an absolute fluke where the amount of zeroes (probability) is approximately 10 pages long, then fine, that is upto u....Good luck to u.......That is all i am saying,.,

    Hey, i was just stating the probability of the life supporting factors coming about by chance......I havent even started the probability of life occuring on this planet by chance........

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Your lack of understanding of probability is astounding.

    No, i am merely stating the absurdity of the probability....The probabilty is beyond human comprehension...

    hey, if you want to believe that everything we see, hear, touch and observe is the result of an absolute fluke where the amount of zeroes (probability) is approximately 10 pages long, then fine, that is upto u....Good luck to u.......That is all i am saying,.,

    Hey, i was just stating the probability of the life supporting factors coming about by chance......I havent even started the probability of life occuring on this planet by chance........

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Alright, let me ask you a specific question.

    You know god wouldnt want you wasting endless hours on a sports gambling message board. You know Jesus wants you to sell all your stuff and help the disadvantaged. You know that you own a house, a car, food, and at least a computer with an internet connection - while half of the world has none of this.

    But yet you ignore gods / jesus commandments and continue to waste time, energy, and resources in ungodly ventures.

    There is only one conclusion. You dont really fully believe it. You just paritally do, and are covering your bases just in case. Because if you did believe it, you wouldnt be here right now at covers - you would be in Haiti, China, or Africa helping the disadvantaged - just as Jesus would have been.

    Now, dont quote me a bible verse - try to actually respond to the above. Because you are not a good testament of Jesus. You are not a good representative of christianity. You are a hypocrite. Explain where I go wrong.

    You mean to tell me that Gods plan for your life is to post on a gambling message board, have a car and a house, lots of food - whild Gods plan for a child in Africa is to be starving, raped, have his parents killed by disease or war and become an orphan, never receive education, and basically have no chance in life to have what you have?

    Thats gods plan? It is pretty easy to say god has a plan for you when your life is good, how about the other half of the world that suffers every day of their life? You think its easy for them to say that my life sucks because it is gods plan? How narcississtic you have to be to be christian - its unreal.

     

    Zack, the number one mandate in the bible is to grow Gods kingdom...to share the good news of God's love and grace. So there are those who God has placed in areas to do just that. Missionaries are a perfect example. How many unbelievers do you think spend time here on Covers? I would bet 95-97 %. So if God wants this percentage of people to hear of his love and grace, there has to be believers here to share that news. So to call someone a hypocrite for doing just that, is wrong. Then again, most of the bible bashers on this site have never tried to read or understand the book. I've read it three times, and i still learn something new everytime i open it. I am not here to change anyones beliefs, only God can do that. But for those who think living the life of a christian is so boring, or awful... your wrong.

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    Alright, let me ask you a specific question.

    You know god wouldnt want you wasting endless hours on a sports gambling message board. You know Jesus wants you to sell all your stuff and help the disadvantaged. You know that you own a house, a car, food, and at least a computer with an internet connection - while half of the world has none of this.

    But yet you ignore gods / jesus commandments and continue to waste time, energy, and resources in ungodly ventures.

    There is only one conclusion. You dont really fully believe it. You just paritally do, and are covering your bases just in case. Because if you did believe it, you wouldnt be here right now at covers - you would be in Haiti, China, or Africa helping the disadvantaged - just as Jesus would have been.

    Now, dont quote me a bible verse - try to actually respond to the above. Because you are not a good testament of Jesus. You are not a good representative of christianity. You are a hypocrite. Explain where I go wrong.

    You mean to tell me that Gods plan for your life is to post on a gambling message board, have a car and a house, lots of food - whild Gods plan for a child in Africa is to be starving, raped, have his parents killed by disease or war and become an orphan, never receive education, and basically have no chance in life to have what you have?

    Thats gods plan? It is pretty easy to say god has a plan for you when your life is good, how about the other half of the world that suffers every day of their life? You think its easy for them to say that my life sucks because it is gods plan? How narcississtic you have to be to be christian - its unreal.

     

    Zack, the number one mandate in the bible is to grow Gods kingdom...to share the good news of God's love and grace. So there are those who God has placed in areas to do just that. Missionaries are a perfect example. How many unbelievers do you think spend time here on Covers? I would bet 95-97 %. So if God wants this percentage of people to hear of his love and grace, there has to be believers here to share that news. So to call someone a hypocrite for doing just that, is wrong. Then again, most of the bible bashers on this site have never tried to read or understand the book. I've read it three times, and i still learn something new everytime i open it. I am not here to change anyones beliefs, only God can do that. But for those who think living the life of a christian is so boring, or awful... your wrong.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhudd70:

     

    Zack, the number one mandate in the bible is to grow Gods kingdom...to share the good news of God's love and grace. So there are those who God has placed in areas to do just that. Missionaries are a perfect example. How many unbelievers do you think spend time here on Covers? I would bet 95-97 %. So if God wants this percentage of people to hear of his love and grace, there has to be believers here to share that news. So to call someone a hypocrite for doing just that, is wrong. Then again, most of the bible bashers on this site have never tried to read or understand the book. I've read it three times, and i still learn something new everytime i open it. I am not here to change anyones beliefs, only God can do that. But for those who think living the life of a christian is so boring, or awful... your wrong.

    But apparently we believe because we are so afraid of dying...

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    Zack, the number one mandate in the bible is to grow Gods kingdom...to share the good news of God's love and grace. So there are those who God has placed in areas to do just that. Missionaries are a perfect example. How many unbelievers do you think spend time here on Covers? I would bet 95-97 %. So if God wants this percentage of people to hear of his love and grace, there has to be believers here to share that news. So to call someone a hypocrite for doing just that, is wrong. Then again, most of the bible bashers on this site have never tried to read or understand the book. I've read it three times, and i still learn something new everytime i open it. I am not here to change anyones beliefs, only God can do that. But for those who think living the life of a christian is so boring, or awful... your wrong.

    But apparently we believe because we are so afraid of dying...

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2011 - 11:51 PM ET #294

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    But apparently we believe because we are so afraid of dying...


    Why don't you stop judging people and just live your own life
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    But apparently we believe because we are so afraid of dying...


    Why don't you stop judging people and just live your own life
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    Why don't you stop judging people and just live your own life

    Hey i am only QUOTING what i have read on this forum

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    Why don't you stop judging people and just live your own life

    Hey i am only QUOTING what i have read on this forum

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2011 - 11:58 PM ET #296

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

    Are babies who die, and then go to heaven, babies If yes, do they grow up If they do, do people keep getting older or do they stop at a certain age Are people who die when they are 100, still 100 in Heaven That would suck Not sure I would even want to live for eternity...

    Your inquisitive confused mind are asking questions that none of us can answer, but one thing I can tell you to ease your inquisitive confused mind is:

    The Kingdow of Heaven wil have no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. All these things are gone forever. ----Revelation 21:4

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

    Are babies who die, and then go to heaven, babies If yes, do they grow up If they do, do people keep getting older or do they stop at a certain age Are people who die when they are 100, still 100 in Heaven That would suck Not sure I would even want to live for eternity...

    Your inquisitive confused mind are asking questions that none of us can answer, but one thing I can tell you to ease your inquisitive confused mind is:

    The Kingdow of Heaven wil have no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. All these things are gone forever. ----Revelation 21:4

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

     
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    Correction: The Kingdom of Heaven will have no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. All these things are gone forever.

     

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    Correction: The Kingdom of Heaven will have no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. All these things are gone forever.

     

     
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    I wanna buttfack this whole thread then juice in its face
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Hey i am only QUOTING what i have read on this forum


    Hey, I'm only quoting what you have written on this forum with no basis...
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    Hey i am only QUOTING what i have read on this forum


    Hey, I'm only quoting what you have written on this forum with no basis...
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    Your inquisitive confused mind are asking questions that none of us can answer, but one thing I can tell you to ease your inquisitive confused mind is:

    The Kingdow of Heaven wil have no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. All these things are gone forever. ----Revelation 21:4

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!


    Yes, but the questions I'm asking do make your ideas look rather absurd...

    I know it just kills you that I use my mind, instead of just following like sheep...

    And please give us some more mindless verses


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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    Your inquisitive confused mind are asking questions that none of us can answer, but one thing I can tell you to ease your inquisitive confused mind is:

    The Kingdow of Heaven wil have no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. All these things are gone forever. ----Revelation 21:4

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!


    Yes, but the questions I'm asking do make your ideas look rather absurd...

    I know it just kills you that I use my mind, instead of just following like sheep...

    And please give us some more mindless verses


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