No system, bin is not in Heaven but is definitely residing in hell. He was an evil man, who killed thousands of innocent lives worldwide, to my knowledge bin has never repented his sins and asked the Lord for forgiveness as a matter of fact he was in the early stages of planning more terrorist acts against the U.S. on the 10th anniversary of 9-11, it was discovered that he wanted to go after the rail systems of U.S.A. to kill more innocent people.
And besides it would have been much to late for bin to ask for forgiveness especially when he saw his life was about to end when those Navy Seals unloaded their weapons at bin's frightened puzzled head of his which only took a mere seconds from the time the Seals helicopters landed in bin's compound.
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Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:
No system, bin is not in Heaven but is definitely residing in hell. He was an evil man, who killed thousands of innocent lives worldwide, to my knowledge bin has never repented his sins and asked the Lord for forgiveness as a matter of fact he was in the early stages of planning more terrorist acts against the U.S. on the 10th anniversary of 9-11, it was discovered that he wanted to go after the rail systems of U.S.A. to kill more innocent people.
And besides it would have been much to late for bin to ask for forgiveness especially when he saw his life was about to end when those Navy Seals unloaded their weapons at bin's frightened puzzled head of his which only took a mere seconds from the time the Seals helicopters landed in bin's compound.
No system, bin is not in Heaven but is definitely residing in hell. He was an evil man, who killed thousands of innocent lives worldwide, to my knowledge bin has never repented his sins and asked the Lord for forgiveness as a matter of fact he was in the early stages of planning more terrorist acts against the U.S. on the 10th anniversary of 9-11, it was discovered that he wanted to go after the rail systems of U.S.A. to kill more innocent people.
Wow, you must be god to know all of that! But, sorry to say, according to your religion, if you repent you get to go to heaven
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Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:
No system, bin is not in Heaven but is definitely residing in hell. He was an evil man, who killed thousands of innocent lives worldwide, to my knowledge bin has never repented his sins and asked the Lord for forgiveness as a matter of fact he was in the early stages of planning more terrorist acts against the U.S. on the 10th anniversary of 9-11, it was discovered that he wanted to go after the rail systems of U.S.A. to kill more innocent people.
Wow, you must be god to know all of that! But, sorry to say, according to your religion, if you repent you get to go to heaven
And besides it would have been much to late for bin to ask for forgiveness especially when he saw his life was about to end when those Navy Seals unloaded their weapons at bin's frightened puzzled head of his which only took a mere seconds from the time the Seals helicopters landed in bin's compound.
Again, you must be god to say it was too late
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Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:
And besides it would have been much to late for bin to ask for forgiveness especially when he saw his life was about to end when those Navy Seals unloaded their weapons at bin's frightened puzzled head of his which only took a mere seconds from the time the Seals helicopters landed in bin's compound.
The Lord will not let the godly go hungry, but he refuses to satisfy the craving of the wicked. ---Proverbs 10:3
Lazy people are soon poor; hard workers get rich. ----Proverbs 10:4
Praise the Lord Almighty!!
That is your answer.
Jeez.
Im sure god is facepalming so hard he just knocked himself out. You think you are a good representative of god and your religion with those nonsensical answers?
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Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:
The Lord will not let the godly go hungry, but he refuses to satisfy the craving of the wicked. ---Proverbs 10:3
Lazy people are soon poor; hard workers get rich. ----Proverbs 10:4
Praise the Lord Almighty!!
That is your answer.
Jeez.
Im sure god is facepalming so hard he just knocked himself out. You think you are a good representative of god and your religion with those nonsensical answers?
You know god wouldnt want you wasting endless hours on a sports gambling message board. You know Jesus wants you to sell all your stuff and help the disadvantaged. You know that you own a house, a car, food, and at least a computer with an internet connection - while half of the world has none of this.
But yet you ignore gods / jesus commandments and continue to waste time, energy, and resources in ungodly ventures.
There is only one conclusion. You dont really fully believe it. You just paritally do, and are covering your bases just in case. Because if you did believe it, you wouldnt be here right now at covers - you would be in Haiti, China, or Africa helping the disadvantaged - just as Jesus would have been.
Now, dont quote me a bible verse - try to actually respond to the above. Because you are not a good testament of Jesus. You are not a good representative of christianity. You are a hypocrite. Explain where I go wrong.
You mean to tell me that Gods plan for your life is to post on a gambling message board, have a car and a house, lots of food - whild Gods plan for a child in Africa is to be starving, raped, have his parents killed by disease or war and become an orphan, never receive education, and basically have no chance in life to have what you have?
Thats gods plan? It is pretty easy to say god has a plan for you when your life is good, how about the other half of the world that suffers every day of their life? You think its easy for them to say that my life sucks because it is gods plan? How narcississtic you have to be to be christian - its unreal.
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Alright, let me ask you a specific question.
You know god wouldnt want you wasting endless hours on a sports gambling message board. You know Jesus wants you to sell all your stuff and help the disadvantaged. You know that you own a house, a car, food, and at least a computer with an internet connection - while half of the world has none of this.
But yet you ignore gods / jesus commandments and continue to waste time, energy, and resources in ungodly ventures.
There is only one conclusion. You dont really fully believe it. You just paritally do, and are covering your bases just in case. Because if you did believe it, you wouldnt be here right now at covers - you would be in Haiti, China, or Africa helping the disadvantaged - just as Jesus would have been.
Now, dont quote me a bible verse - try to actually respond to the above. Because you are not a good testament of Jesus. You are not a good representative of christianity. You are a hypocrite. Explain where I go wrong.
You mean to tell me that Gods plan for your life is to post on a gambling message board, have a car and a house, lots of food - whild Gods plan for a child in Africa is to be starving, raped, have his parents killed by disease or war and become an orphan, never receive education, and basically have no chance in life to have what you have?
Thats gods plan? It is pretty easy to say god has a plan for you when your life is good, how about the other half of the world that suffers every day of their life? You think its easy for them to say that my life sucks because it is gods plan? How narcississtic you have to be to be christian - its unreal.
I like how SirJohnDrake completely ignores all of vanzacks comments that completely contradict what he says. He also refuses to acknowledge the story about Cindy. I see it 1 of 2 ways.
1. If god has a plan for all of us, then he has a plan for starving Ethiopian children. He has a plan for abuse and rape victims. He has a plan for babies that die within weeks or days of birth. If this is true, then god is in fact an asshole. No self respecting human being with even 1% of a brain can refute this.
2. If god does not have a plan for all of us, then the existence of the above makes sense, because we, as humans, have free will. It just so happens that god doesn't care about us or maybe he wants us to find the "truth" ourselves. This seems like something a believer would say. Although, I must say, it's pretty hard for a baby that dies 2 days after birth to find the "truth" or for a starving Ethiopian child or a constant rape victim to actually believe there is a god. After all, why would god reward some so graciously and punish others so harshly for things they didn't do/deserve.
But, the one thing I know WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY is that SirJohnDrake will not address anything I said with an answer remotely credible. YOU CANNOT QUOTE BIBLE VERSES TO ADDRESS THIS FOR THE SAME REASON I CAN'T QUOTE HARRY POTTER LINES TO SUPPORT MY ARGUMENT.
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I like how SirJohnDrake completely ignores all of vanzacks comments that completely contradict what he says. He also refuses to acknowledge the story about Cindy. I see it 1 of 2 ways.
1. If god has a plan for all of us, then he has a plan for starving Ethiopian children. He has a plan for abuse and rape victims. He has a plan for babies that die within weeks or days of birth. If this is true, then god is in fact an asshole. No self respecting human being with even 1% of a brain can refute this.
2. If god does not have a plan for all of us, then the existence of the above makes sense, because we, as humans, have free will. It just so happens that god doesn't care about us or maybe he wants us to find the "truth" ourselves. This seems like something a believer would say. Although, I must say, it's pretty hard for a baby that dies 2 days after birth to find the "truth" or for a starving Ethiopian child or a constant rape victim to actually believe there is a god. After all, why would god reward some so graciously and punish others so harshly for things they didn't do/deserve.
But, the one thing I know WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY is that SirJohnDrake will not address anything I said with an answer remotely credible. YOU CANNOT QUOTE BIBLE VERSES TO ADDRESS THIS FOR THE SAME REASON I CAN'T QUOTE HARRY POTTER LINES TO SUPPORT MY ARGUMENT.
Hey SirJohnDrake - maybe you forgot these bible verses (I made them new testament, just for you)
Luke 12:33. "Sell your possessions and give to charity; make yourselves purses which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near, nor moth destroys."
Luke 3:11. And [John the Baptist] would answer and say to them, "Let the man with two tunics share with him who has none, and let him who has food do likewise."
Mt. 5:42. Give to him who asks of you, and do not turn away from him who wants to borrow from you.
Now - I ask you - want to rethink your position on why you are rich and why half the world isnt, and how your wasting half of your day on covers is in direct opposition with what god / jesus commands?
You are a fake. You are a half believer. You are hedging your bets. You really dont believe it. You are an awful representative of Jesus. God is ashamed of you.
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Hey SirJohnDrake - maybe you forgot these bible verses (I made them new testament, just for you)
Luke 12:33. "Sell your possessions and give to charity; make yourselves purses which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near, nor moth destroys."
Luke 3:11. And [John the Baptist] would answer and say to them, "Let the man with two tunics share with him who has none, and let him who has food do likewise."
Mt. 5:42. Give to him who asks of you, and do not turn away from him who wants to borrow from you.
Now - I ask you - want to rethink your position on why you are rich and why half the world isnt, and how your wasting half of your day on covers is in direct opposition with what god / jesus commands?
You are a fake. You are a half believer. You are hedging your bets. You really dont believe it. You are an awful representative of Jesus. God is ashamed of you.
There is one thing I know. This I am certain of. More certain than I am of god's nonexistence. More certain than Rostos is of god's existence. SirJohnDrake is the dumbest human being on this planet.
Guess you where right since the beginning...
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Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:
There is one thing I know. This I am certain of. More certain than I am of god's nonexistence. More certain than Rostos is of god's existence. SirJohnDrake is the dumbest human being on this planet.
I hate admitting I'm wrong, but... how can I argue with this: "Yes, IMO, we are on this earth to love and have a relationship with God.......But you always have the free will not to do this.....
For example, i am sure God has a plan for a prostitute, i am very sure his plan was not for her to be a prostitute, yet out of her free will she became one....."
Basically, god has a plan for all of us and that's why some prayers get answered and not others, because it's part of his plan...UNLESS, you use free will to change god's plan. Holy shit! An imperfect human being can change a perfect god's plan! But wait, I thought we couldn't change god's plan? Oh that's right. The answer is whatever is most convenient because the events of the world point so overwhelmingly against the existence of a god that you get trapped in your circular logic trying to dig out of a hole so deep, not even god could get out of it (or could he?) lololololol I love this.
Look around you, how can you say there is overwhelming evidence against God? You are basically saying that the dictionary resulted from the explosion at the print factory where all the words and sentences just formed magicially without a mind behind it...
Yes, look at wars, crime, violence etc etc, the last time i checked, that was the result from mans greed, evil desires and corruption....
It takes a special kind of arrogance to look around you and think everything happened by a pure fluke...
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Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:
I hate admitting I'm wrong, but... how can I argue with this: "Yes, IMO, we are on this earth to love and have a relationship with God.......But you always have the free will not to do this.....
For example, i am sure God has a plan for a prostitute, i am very sure his plan was not for her to be a prostitute, yet out of her free will she became one....."
Basically, god has a plan for all of us and that's why some prayers get answered and not others, because it's part of his plan...UNLESS, you use free will to change god's plan. Holy shit! An imperfect human being can change a perfect god's plan! But wait, I thought we couldn't change god's plan? Oh that's right. The answer is whatever is most convenient because the events of the world point so overwhelmingly against the existence of a god that you get trapped in your circular logic trying to dig out of a hole so deep, not even god could get out of it (or could he?) lololololol I love this.
Look around you, how can you say there is overwhelming evidence against God? You are basically saying that the dictionary resulted from the explosion at the print factory where all the words and sentences just formed magicially without a mind behind it...
Yes, look at wars, crime, violence etc etc, the last time i checked, that was the result from mans greed, evil desires and corruption....
It takes a special kind of arrogance to look around you and think everything happened by a pure fluke...
Yes, I get it, the bible says these things. But, again, why should I believe it There are a lot of books that say things. Do you believe everything that is written
So lets just disregard anything written by man, after according to you, because it is written by man, it means nothing...Therefore, anything you write is rubbish according to your philiosophy...
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Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:
Yes, I get it, the bible says these things. But, again, why should I believe it There are a lot of books that say things. Do you believe everything that is written
So lets just disregard anything written by man, after according to you, because it is written by man, it means nothing...Therefore, anything you write is rubbish according to your philiosophy...
Are babies who die, and then go to heaven, babies If yes, do they grow up If they do, do people keep getting older or do they stop at a certain age Are people who die when they are 100, still 100 in Heaven That would suck Not sure I would even want to live for eternity...
Why are you looking at other people and judging? Just look at yourself and live the life you THINK is correct
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Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:
Are babies who die, and then go to heaven, babies If yes, do they grow up If they do, do people keep getting older or do they stop at a certain age Are people who die when they are 100, still 100 in Heaven That would suck Not sure I would even want to live for eternity...
Why are you looking at other people and judging? Just look at yourself and live the life you THINK is correct
yes i think he is a fool. he is the fool of all fools. he created all these sins, diseases, famine, improper dispersion of money, nuclear weapons, murderers, rapists, and etc etc etc etc etc etc.. but yet he leaves it up to human to chooses there road? he is a damn foo dats fo sho...
now sir drake go to church and pray for all of these covers brothers for there sins because you are a christian and cannot hope for any harm on us.. thanks at least i know somewhere out there somebody will care and pray for me.
Do you realise what you are even saying? wether you know it or not, u are acknowleding Gods existence and at the same time bad mouthing him....
Based on that, arent you afraid when you die of the consequences? after all, we are all gonna eventually die
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Quote Originally Posted by jlt9889:
yes i think he is a fool. he is the fool of all fools. he created all these sins, diseases, famine, improper dispersion of money, nuclear weapons, murderers, rapists, and etc etc etc etc etc etc.. but yet he leaves it up to human to chooses there road? he is a damn foo dats fo sho...
now sir drake go to church and pray for all of these covers brothers for there sins because you are a christian and cannot hope for any harm on us.. thanks at least i know somewhere out there somebody will care and pray for me.
Do you realise what you are even saying? wether you know it or not, u are acknowleding Gods existence and at the same time bad mouthing him....
Based on that, arent you afraid when you die of the consequences? after all, we are all gonna eventually die
From where i come from, if one person keeps on attacking another party, they are clearly INSECURE with what they believe.....otherwise they wouldnt bother.....have a think about it.....The non believrs are doing the attacking, mocking and swearing at the beliefs of the believer.......The believer is simply defending themselves.......the attackers (non believers) are truely showing there insecurities here........
If you are truely secure with your beliefs , u wouldnt bother would u....?
Time after time we see new threads here by people attacking religion or God.......
Show me one time when a believer has started a thread bagging non believers? Show me once........yet we always see the non believer starting these.......A pure sign of insecurity about there beliefs....nothing else....
I am totally secure with my sexuality, i dont start threads attacking homosexuals, i am very comfortable with my own sexuality, so no need to attack them......but if i did, i would fully expect any person sexuals to defend themselves.......but if i was fully secure, then i wouldnt even bother starting threads....
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From where i come from, if one person keeps on attacking another party, they are clearly INSECURE with what they believe.....otherwise they wouldnt bother.....have a think about it.....The non believrs are doing the attacking, mocking and swearing at the beliefs of the believer.......The believer is simply defending themselves.......the attackers (non believers) are truely showing there insecurities here........
If you are truely secure with your beliefs , u wouldnt bother would u....?
Time after time we see new threads here by people attacking religion or God.......
Show me one time when a believer has started a thread bagging non believers? Show me once........yet we always see the non believer starting these.......A pure sign of insecurity about there beliefs....nothing else....
I am totally secure with my sexuality, i dont start threads attacking homosexuals, i am very comfortable with my own sexuality, so no need to attack them......but if i did, i would fully expect any person sexuals to defend themselves.......but if i was fully secure, then i wouldnt even bother starting threads....
Rostos doesn't understand the concept of probability and how it would have had to be a fluke of astronomical proportions for life to not develop on at least ONE planet over billions and billions of years. If you flip a coin 100 times, what are the odds it comes up heads 100 times? Obviously, incredibly small. If you flip a coin 100 billion times, what are the odds that at some point, there is a stretch of 100 heads or 100 tails in a row? Extremely, extremely high; dare I say an asymptote approaching 1. Think about it.
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Rostos doesn't understand the concept of probability and how it would have had to be a fluke of astronomical proportions for life to not develop on at least ONE planet over billions and billions of years. If you flip a coin 100 times, what are the odds it comes up heads 100 times? Obviously, incredibly small. If you flip a coin 100 billion times, what are the odds that at some point, there is a stretch of 100 heads or 100 tails in a row? Extremely, extremely high; dare I say an asymptote approaching 1. Think about it.
So lets just disregard anything written by man, after according to you, because it is written by man, it means nothing...Therefore, anything you write is rubbish according to your philiosophy...
Is that what I said It takes more than just it being written to be true. Like facts to back it, would be a good start
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
So lets just disregard anything written by man, after according to you, because it is written by man, it means nothing...Therefore, anything you write is rubbish according to your philiosophy...
Is that what I said It takes more than just it being written to be true. Like facts to back it, would be a good start
Why are you looking at other people and judging? Just look at yourself and live the life you THINK is correct
Originally Posted by SYSTEM:
Are babies who die, and then go to heaven, babies If yes, do they grow up If they do, do people keep getting older or do they stop at a certain age Are people who die when they are 100, still 100 in Heaven That would suck Not sure I would even want to live for eternity...
Please tell me how I'm judging here. Asking questions is judging Or do you have a problem with the questions I'm asking because it makes your beliefs look silly
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
Why are you looking at other people and judging? Just look at yourself and live the life you THINK is correct
Originally Posted by SYSTEM:
Are babies who die, and then go to heaven, babies If yes, do they grow up If they do, do people keep getting older or do they stop at a certain age Are people who die when they are 100, still 100 in Heaven That would suck Not sure I would even want to live for eternity...
Please tell me how I'm judging here. Asking questions is judging Or do you have a problem with the questions I'm asking because it makes your beliefs look silly
Not sure I would even want to live for eternity... 
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