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    My friend said last night that there are some people that believe they don't want to find a cure for cancer.

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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2013 - 11:07 PM ET #101

    Read newspaper from other country as well.  It will give you different point of view on things. 
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2013 - 11:16 PM ET #102

    From Wiki...  thank god that wiki is not a institution in usa. Otherwise there would be people screaming that wiki is money driven , controled :)

    2010 film, Burzynski – Cancer is Serious Business

    The 2010 film, Burzynski, Cancer is Serious Business, directed, written, edited, and narrated by Eric Merola, an art director of television commercials, describes Burzynski's use of antineoplastons and his legal clashes with government agencies and regulators.[58] The Village Voice commented that the movie "violates every basic rule of ethical filmmaking" and that by interviewing only Burzynski's supporters, the film's producer "is either unusually credulous, or doesn't understand the difference between a documentary and an advertisement".[59] Variety described the film as having the qualities of a "paranoid conspiracy theory" and likened it to the National Enquirer, adding that the film's explanatory diagrams are "simplistic to the point of idiocy". The review concluded that "despite its infotainment look, Burzynski ultimately proves convincing."[60] Prior to the debut of "Burzynski", Houston Press correspondent Craig Malisow mocked the film's lack of objectivity, characterizing it as "a puff-piece paean that cherrypicks facts and ignores any criticism", and criticized the project for presenting only Burzynski's side of the story.[61]

    likened it to the National Enquirer, adding that the film's explanatory diagrams are "simplistic to the point of idiocy" 
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    From Wiki...  thank god that wiki is not a institution in usa. Otherwise there would be people screaming that wiki is money driven , controled :)

    2010 film, Burzynski – Cancer is Serious Business

    The 2010 film, Burzynski, Cancer is Serious Business, directed, written, edited, and narrated by Eric Merola, an art director of television commercials, describes Burzynski's use of antineoplastons and his legal clashes with government agencies and regulators.[58] The Village Voice commented that the movie "violates every basic rule of ethical filmmaking" and that by interviewing only Burzynski's supporters, the film's producer "is either unusually credulous, or doesn't understand the difference between a documentary and an advertisement".[59] Variety described the film as having the qualities of a "paranoid conspiracy theory" and likened it to the National Enquirer, adding that the film's explanatory diagrams are "simplistic to the point of idiocy". The review concluded that "despite its infotainment look, Burzynski ultimately proves convincing."[60] Prior to the debut of "Burzynski", Houston Press correspondent Craig Malisow mocked the film's lack of objectivity, characterizing it as "a puff-piece paean that cherrypicks facts and ignores any criticism", and criticized the project for presenting only Burzynski's side of the story.[61]

    likened it to the National Enquirer, adding that the film's explanatory diagrams are "simplistic to the point of idiocy" 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2013 - 11:20 PM ET #103

    Conspiracy 
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    Conspiracy 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2013 - 11:30 PM ET #104

    Fact is Cancer was introduced to Earth by aliens as a population control measure.
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    Fact is Cancer was introduced to Earth by aliens as a population control measure.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2013 - 11:54 PM ET #105

    I'll give you this much... I don't know much about cancer in other countries. However, I don't understand how the U.S. government since 1974 has known that Cannabis has anti cancer properties, and yet research by many institutions gets denied federal funding because it's a schedule I drug. It's antiproliferative (it prevents the spread of cancer), it's proapoptotic (it destroys cells that are dying before they can become mutant or cancerous), and it kills cancer cells while leaving the healrhy cells untouched. Doctors all over the world know this to be fact. The cannabanoids CBD and THC are largely responsible for these characteristics. Yet we have millions of people dying of cancer every year worldwide. Why can't we the people grow a plant and use it for medicine? It's a natural plant that has never killed anyone in the history of mankind. It's never once caused cancer or any disease. There is no record of it ever happening. It has no side effects. None. Yet the chemo drugs can cost up to $30,000 for eight weeks of treatment, and the drugs kill everything in the human body. They often give people cancer, the exact illness they're trying to fight. Why isn't Cannabis being used as medicine everywhere in the world? What's the hold up? How many more millions have to die? This is genocide in every sense of the word.

    Maybe it's because anybody can grow it anywhere. And how do you sell that and make billions?
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    I'll give you this much... I don't know much about cancer in other countries. However, I don't understand how the U.S. government since 1974 has known that Cannabis has anti cancer properties, and yet research by many institutions gets denied federal funding because it's a schedule I drug. It's antiproliferative (it prevents the spread of cancer), it's proapoptotic (it destroys cells that are dying before they can become mutant or cancerous), and it kills cancer cells while leaving the healrhy cells untouched. Doctors all over the world know this to be fact. The cannabanoids CBD and THC are largely responsible for these characteristics. Yet we have millions of people dying of cancer every year worldwide. Why can't we the people grow a plant and use it for medicine? It's a natural plant that has never killed anyone in the history of mankind. It's never once caused cancer or any disease. There is no record of it ever happening. It has no side effects. None. Yet the chemo drugs can cost up to $30,000 for eight weeks of treatment, and the drugs kill everything in the human body. They often give people cancer, the exact illness they're trying to fight. Why isn't Cannabis being used as medicine everywhere in the world? What's the hold up? How many more millions have to die? This is genocide in every sense of the word.

    Maybe it's because anybody can grow it anywhere. And how do you sell that and make billions?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2013 - 12:39 AM ET #106

    I think it has something to do with Hemp. Only way to see the difference between them is roll up and smoke it.
    Cotton industry don't want hemp come back, and all the farmers don't want that . Allowing Marijuana grow will effect not just Drug company, also Cotten, Farmer , Oil , Lumber , etc.  That my friend, i might call it conspiracy or looking after special intrest.
    I do think it has a little to do with  cancer part though.
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    I think it has something to do with Hemp. Only way to see the difference between them is roll up and smoke it.
    Cotton industry don't want hemp come back, and all the farmers don't want that . Allowing Marijuana grow will effect not just Drug company, also Cotten, Farmer , Oil , Lumber , etc.  That my friend, i might call it conspiracy or looking after special intrest.
    I do think it has a little to do with  cancer part though.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2013 - 4:16 PM ET #107

    there is no money in the cure.  the industry can make  billions dollars in the cure but feeding medicine and hospitlizing people will make trillions.  MAKE SENSE GUYS.  they do not want any kind of cure.  also these birds disease that they claim is out there that is just to make extra dollars by the federal government for your DUMBASS to run and get a shot for 20 bucks
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    there is no money in the cure.  the industry can make  billions dollars in the cure but feeding medicine and hospitlizing people will make trillions.  MAKE SENSE GUYS.  they do not want any kind of cure.  also these birds disease that they claim is out there that is just to make extra dollars by the federal government for your DUMBASS to run and get a shot for 20 bucks
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2013 - 4:51 PM ET #108

    50 years and $3 trillion dollars and no cures--that's all you need to know.
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    50 years and $3 trillion dollars and no cures--that's all you need to know.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2013 - 8:50 PM ET #109

    I thought this might be relevant to this thread. Andrew Lo thinks he can help find a cure for cancer AND help in fixing the economy through financial engineering. 

    https://www.businessinsider.com/andrew-lo-finance-cdo-cure-cancer-2012-6
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    I thought this might be relevant to this thread. Andrew Lo thinks he can help find a cure for cancer AND help in fixing the economy through financial engineering. 

    https://www.businessinsider.com/andrew-lo-finance-cdo-cure-cancer-2012-6
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelCash:

    I'll give you this much... I don't know much about cancer in other countries. However, I don't understand how the U.S. government since 1974 has known that Cannabis has anti cancer properties, and yet research by many institutions gets denied federal funding because it's a schedule I drug. It's antiproliferative (it prevents the spread of cancer), it's proapoptotic (it destroys cells that are dying before they can become mutant or cancerous), and it kills cancer cells while leaving the healrhy cells untouched. Doctors all over the world know this to be fact. The cannabanoids CBD and THC are largely responsible for these characteristics. Yet we have millions of people dying of cancer every year worldwide. Why can't we the people grow a plant and use it for medicine? It's a natural plant that has never killed anyone in the history of mankind. It's never once caused cancer or any disease. There is no record of it ever happening. It has no side effects. None. Yet the chemo drugs can cost up to $30,000 for eight weeks of treatment, and the drugs kill everything in the human body. They often give people cancer, the exact illness they're trying to fight. Why isn't Cannabis being used as medicine everywhere in the world? What's the hold up? How many more millions have to die? This is genocide in every sense of the word.

    Maybe it's because anybody can grow it anywhere. And how do you sell that and make billions?

     

    We have a winner. Very well put Steel!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelCash:

    I'll give you this much... I don't know much about cancer in other countries. However, I don't understand how the U.S. government since 1974 has known that Cannabis has anti cancer properties, and yet research by many institutions gets denied federal funding because it's a schedule I drug. It's antiproliferative (it prevents the spread of cancer), it's proapoptotic (it destroys cells that are dying before they can become mutant or cancerous), and it kills cancer cells while leaving the healrhy cells untouched. Doctors all over the world know this to be fact. The cannabanoids CBD and THC are largely responsible for these characteristics. Yet we have millions of people dying of cancer every year worldwide. Why can't we the people grow a plant and use it for medicine? It's a natural plant that has never killed anyone in the history of mankind. It's never once caused cancer or any disease. There is no record of it ever happening. It has no side effects. None. Yet the chemo drugs can cost up to $30,000 for eight weeks of treatment, and the drugs kill everything in the human body. They often give people cancer, the exact illness they're trying to fight. Why isn't Cannabis being used as medicine everywhere in the world? What's the hold up? How many more millions have to die? This is genocide in every sense of the word.

    Maybe it's because anybody can grow it anywhere. And how do you sell that and make billions?

     

    We have a winner. Very well put Steel!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2013 - 4:23 AM ET #111

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelCash:

    I'll give you this much... I don't know much about cancer in other countries. However, I don't understand how the U.S. government since 1974 has known that Cannabis has anti cancer properties, and yet research by many institutions gets denied federal funding because it's a schedule I drug. It's antiproliferative (it prevents the spread of cancer), it's proapoptotic (it destroys cells that are dying before they can become mutant or cancerous), and it kills cancer cells while leaving the healrhy cells untouched. Doctors all over the world know this to be fact. The cannabanoids CBD and THC are largely responsible for these characteristics. Yet we have millions of people dying of cancer every year worldwide. Why can't we the people grow a plant and use it for medicine? It's a natural plant that has never killed anyone in the history of mankind. It's never once caused cancer or any disease. There is no record of it ever happening. It has no side effects. None. Yet the chemo drugs can cost up to $30,000 for eight weeks of treatment, and the drugs kill everything in the human body. They often give people cancer, the exact illness they're trying to fight. Why isn't Cannabis being used as medicine everywhere in the world? What's the hold up? How many more millions have to die? This is genocide in every sense of the word.

    Maybe it's because anybody can grow it anywhere. And how do you sell that and make billions?

    I agree that it's ridiculous that clinical trials of cannabinoids as a direct cancer treatment are being held up, but this post is a bit misleading. 

    It's not as simple as growing your own plant and smoking a joint. For it to be effective, the cannabinoids would have to extracted and injected as a concentrated dose. They would also have to be used in conjunction with chemotherapy drugs, so you can't really praise cannabinoids while railing against the evils of chemo.

    Also, there are currently on-going clinical trials that are looking into using cannabis to treat the side-effects of cancer, so it seems like a good bet that this will eventually get the green-light as well.  

    If anybody's curious, you can read more here:
    https://www.cpmc.org/professionals/research/programs/science/cannabidiolarticles.html#Clinical trials with cannabinoids
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelCash:

    I'll give you this much... I don't know much about cancer in other countries. However, I don't understand how the U.S. government since 1974 has known that Cannabis has anti cancer properties, and yet research by many institutions gets denied federal funding because it's a schedule I drug. It's antiproliferative (it prevents the spread of cancer), it's proapoptotic (it destroys cells that are dying before they can become mutant or cancerous), and it kills cancer cells while leaving the healrhy cells untouched. Doctors all over the world know this to be fact. The cannabanoids CBD and THC are largely responsible for these characteristics. Yet we have millions of people dying of cancer every year worldwide. Why can't we the people grow a plant and use it for medicine? It's a natural plant that has never killed anyone in the history of mankind. It's never once caused cancer or any disease. There is no record of it ever happening. It has no side effects. None. Yet the chemo drugs can cost up to $30,000 for eight weeks of treatment, and the drugs kill everything in the human body. They often give people cancer, the exact illness they're trying to fight. Why isn't Cannabis being used as medicine everywhere in the world? What's the hold up? How many more millions have to die? This is genocide in every sense of the word.

    Maybe it's because anybody can grow it anywhere. And how do you sell that and make billions?

    I agree that it's ridiculous that clinical trials of cannabinoids as a direct cancer treatment are being held up, but this post is a bit misleading. 

    It's not as simple as growing your own plant and smoking a joint. For it to be effective, the cannabinoids would have to extracted and injected as a concentrated dose. They would also have to be used in conjunction with chemotherapy drugs, so you can't really praise cannabinoids while railing against the evils of chemo.

    Also, there are currently on-going clinical trials that are looking into using cannabis to treat the side-effects of cancer, so it seems like a good bet that this will eventually get the green-light as well.  

    If anybody's curious, you can read more here:
    https://www.cpmc.org/professionals/research/programs/science/cannabidiolarticles.html#Clinical trials with cannabinoids
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2013 - 1:07 AM ET #112

    Weekends... you are correct in saying that smoking Cannabis cannot cure cancer, although it can help to prevent it I do believe. But as for using it in conjunction with chemo... I've never heard of that nor would I try it. I would never use chemo to fight cancer and I don't give a shït what the oncologists say. Exercise, good diet, no tobacco... these things prevent cancer. If I would ever get cancer, I would get hemp oil. I would exercise more. I would cure myself using all natural medicine and herbs. And I would beat it. Or I wouldn't... but the chemo companies wouldn't make a sungle dime off me.

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    Weekends... you are correct in saying that smoking Cannabis cannot cure cancer, although it can help to prevent it I do believe. But as for using it in conjunction with chemo... I've never heard of that nor would I try it. I would never use chemo to fight cancer and I don't give a shït what the oncologists say. Exercise, good diet, no tobacco... these things prevent cancer. If I would ever get cancer, I would get hemp oil. I would exercise more. I would cure myself using all natural medicine and herbs. And I would beat it. Or I wouldn't... but the chemo companies wouldn't make a sungle dime off me.

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