Posted:
#3276
Now you are speaking for other peoples own experiences jagerfury,
Ironic a pic of Hussein is what represents you. Say hi to him for me. 
If Christ died on the cross for all of humanity
Posted:
#3280
Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:
Funny how Rostos is asking hitler to do the same thing we are asking of Rostos. "if he believes in god, he has to give evidence why his god exists." ironic isn't it. Double standard much?
Funny how Rostos is asking hitler to do the same thing we are asking of Rostos. "if he believes in god, he has to give evidence why his god exists." ironic isn't it. Double standard much?
My arguments and have always been for the Christian God..
Who is Hitler's God?
Posted:
#3284
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Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:
Just watched the special on the universe on h2. Truly incredible stuff. I'm optimistic that before I die we will be able to disprove god as the creator of this universe. And although that doesn't rule one out altogether, it would be enough to convince me 100% that god doesn't exist. I am eager with anticipation.
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Boy are you going to be terribly disappointed if Jesus returns before your optimism or after your optimism I might add.
Posted:
#3285
Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:
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Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:
Just watched the special on the universe on h2. Truly incredible stuff. I'm optimistic that before I die we will be able to disprove god as the creator of this universe. And although that doesn't rule one out altogether, it would be enough to convince me 100% that god doesn't exist. I am eager with anticipation.
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Boy are you going to be terribly disappointed if Jesus returns before your optimism or after your optimism I might add.
No I won't. I'll be thrilled! I'll have an answer. That would be AMAZING.
Posted:
#3286
Quote Originally Posted by jagerfury:
You don't possess powers unavailable to me or any other person.
Do you think you are god now?
You don't possess powers unavailable to me or any other person.
Do you think you are god now?
I KNOW I SAID THAT I WAS OFF TO BED, BUT JUST HAVE TO RESPOND.
Jagerfury,
I am not sure as to where you are getting these thoughts from, but you are way off on them. You alluded to conceit earlier as well.
I am far from conceited and have a difficult time getting along with arrogant, pridefully people.
I do my best to love them, accept them and carry on a relationship with them, but for me it is very difficult.
I in know way want to come across as prideful nor do i want that attitude/spirit in my life. I apologize if that is the way that I am coming across, but you must know that is not/nor will it ever be my motive.
I hate pride as every AUTHENTIC Christian should.
It is one of the 2 monsters that every TRUE believer daily tries to defeat out of one's life. The other being selfishness.
Pride is what turned Lucifer from an angel to a devil. Pride has dethroned kings and destroyed entire nations.
Pride ruins men's lives and I for one despise it.
So, again I in no way want to come across as prideful. I will be the first to admit that I am NOTHING. I am never, ever better than anyone else, nor will I EVER strive to be.
I am happy and content putting another person above myself at ALL times and seeing God get the glory in all things!!!
Posted:
#3288
Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:
Can someone explain why god cares if I choose him or not?
Can someone explain why god cares if I choose him or not?
I will answer you quickly.
As I stated earlier.
Further, we learn some interesting things about this God who created the universe. He is:
• Supernatural in nature (as He exists outside of His creation)
• Incredibly powerful (to have created all that is known)
• Eternal (self-existent, as He exists outside of time and space)
• Omnipresent (He created space and is not limited by it)
• Timeless and changeless (He created time)
• Immaterial (because He transcends space)
• Personal (the impersonal can’t create personality)
• Necessary (as everything else depends on Him)
• Infinite and singular (as you cannot have two infinites)
• Diverse yet has unity (as nature exhibits diversity)
• Intelligent (supremely, to create everything)
• Purposeful (as He deliberately created everything)
• Moral (no moral law can exist without a lawgiver)
• Caring (or no moral laws would have been given)
This is just one way proves that he is a God that cares.
So, does the historical accounts in the bible, all throughout history until now, of the numerous accounts of people's lives that can verify how God has shown His love to them.
But, the most compelling way to know His love for you and why he cares, was to whether you choose Him or not, was his death for YOU and all of mankind.
He did this to provide the way to live forever with Him on a new earth and a new heaven forever!
He cares whether you choose Him or not, simply because He created people with a free will to choose whether they wanted Him in their lives or not.
Otherwise, He could have created people with no free will, that would be forced to want him and to serve his plans and purposes for all of eternity...but that wouldn't be TRUE love.
He wanted me to love Him for Him, not a coerced or forced love upon Himself.
Posted:
#3289
Quote Originally Posted by matt4000:
I KNOW I SAID THAT I WAS OFF TO BED, BUT JUST HAVE TO RESPOND.
Jagerfury,
I am not sure as to where you are getting these thoughts from, but you are way off on them. You alluded to conceit earlier as well.
I am far from conceited and have a difficult time getting along with arrogant, pridefully people.
I do my best to love them, accept them and carry on a relationship with them, but for me it is very difficult.
I in know way want to come across as prideful nor do i want that attitude/spirit in my life. I apologize if that is the way that I am coming across, but you must know that is not/nor will it ever be my motive.
I hate pride as every AUTHENTIC Christian should.
It is one of the 2 monsters that every TRUE believer daily tries to defeat out of one's life. The other being selfishness.
Pride is what turned Lucifer from an angel to a devil. Pride has dethroned kings and destroyed entire nations.
Pride ruins men's lives and I for one despise it.
So, again I in no way want to come across as prideful. I will be the first to admit that I am NOTHING. I am never, ever better than anyone else, nor will I EVER strive to be.
I am happy and content putting another person above myself at ALL times and seeing God get the glory in all things!!!
You mention you try not to be selfish, but by definition, many christians are selfish. Most christians do what they're told to get into heaven, so essentially they are only looking out for themselves...
I'm not saying ALL christians are this way. I'm sure there are some who just genuinely want to be good people, but if christians were told there is no heaven, I'm sure many would no longer take part in the religion. At the core, most people are selfish, and religions based on rewards feed on this selfishness. Quite genius really...
Posted:
#3290
Quote Originally Posted by matt4000:
I will answer you quickly.
As I stated earlier.
Further, we learn some interesting things about this God who created the universe. He is:
• Supernatural in nature (as He exists outside of His creation)
• Incredibly powerful (to have created all that is known)
• Eternal (self-existent, as He exists outside of time and space)
• Omnipresent (He created space and is not limited by it)
• Timeless and changeless (He created time)
• Immaterial (because He transcends space)
• Personal (the impersonal can’t create personality)
• Necessary (as everything else depends on Him)
• Infinite and singular (as you cannot have two infinites)
• Diverse yet has unity (as nature exhibits diversity)
• Intelligent (supremely, to create everything)
• Purposeful (as He deliberately created everything)
• Moral (no moral law can exist without a lawgiver)
• Caring (or no moral laws would have been given)
This is just one way proves that he is a God that cares.
So, does the historical accounts in the bible, all throughout history until now, of the numerous accounts of people's lives that can verify how God has shown His love to them.
But, the most compelling way to know His love for you and why he cares, was to whether you choose Him or not, was his death for YOU and all of mankind.
He did this to provide the way to live forever with Him on a new earth and a new heaven forever!
He cares whether you choose Him or not, simply because He created people with a free will to choose whether they wanted Him in their lives or not.
Otherwise, He could have created people with no free will, that would be forced to want him and to serve his plans and purposes for all of eternity...but that wouldn't be TRUE love.
He wanted me to love Him for Him, not a coerced or forced love upon Himself.
So you believe there would be no morals today if not for religion? You think people wouldn't have thought, "Maybe we shouldn't kill each other." or "Maybe we shouldn't take other people's crap."? I promise we would have figured it out without religion...
Posted:
#3291
Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:
So you believe there would be no morals today if not for religion? You think people wouldn't have thought, "Maybe we shouldn't kill each other." or "Maybe we shouldn't take other people's crap."? I promise we would have figured it out without religion...
So you believe there would be no morals today if not for religion? You think people wouldn't have thought, "Maybe we shouldn't kill each other." or "Maybe we shouldn't take other people's crap."? I promise we would have figured it out without religion...
Speculation
Jagerfury--tell Hussein hi for me!
Posted:
#3293
Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:
I pray God sees this and focuses on it
The problem KK has is that he wants to be God hmself. He wants God to conform to his rules. He at least sees himself on Gods level. He gave his game away along time ago...
Remember, God sent the angels to hell because they wanted to be God.
Just saying...
This is the number 1 problem atheists have - pride.
Posted:
#3294
Quote Originally Posted by matt4000:
Here you are pontificating from on high. How do you know all these things you claim? You haven't even proven the existence of a god, how can you nail down specifics of her temperament? Once again, you do not possess any special knowledge, or power not available to me, or anyone else.I will answer you quickly.
As I stated earlier.
Further, we learn some interesting things about this God who created the universe. He is:
Your list is nothing but speculation. Believe what you want, but you haven't proven anything except your willingness to believe pure myth.
I'd rather be playing D&D.
Posted:
#3295
Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:
When did gloating over the "suffering" of others become a christian value? As long as it is a "non-believer" probably. These are your beliefs, not mine, and you sir are a hypocrite. Turn the other cheek, and all that? No? Not for you? You can still gloat over all those non-believers burning in hell, you can derive pleasure from that, and still be admitted into the gates of heaven?Speculation
Jagerfury--tell Hussein hi for me!
I'd rather be playing D&D.
Posted:
#3296
Quote Originally Posted by jagerfury:
When did gloating over the "suffering" of others become a christian value? As long as it is a "non-believer" probably. These are your beliefs, not mine, and you sir are a hypocrite. Turn the other cheek, and all that? No? Not for you? You can still gloat over all those non-believers burning in hell, you can derive pleasure from that, and still be admitted into the gates of heaven?
When did gloating over the "suffering" of others become a christian value? As long as it is a "non-believer" probably. These are your beliefs, not mine, and you sir are a hypocrite. Turn the other cheek, and all that? No? Not for you? You can still gloat over all those non-believers burning in hell, you can derive pleasure from that, and still be admitted into the gates of heaven?
You feel bad for Hussein? He's the one suffering there. I'm sorry. I just was not a big fan of his.
Posted:
#3297
Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:
When you have 9 doctors tell you that you experienced a miracle and science has no answers give me a call jagerfury, til then,
When you have 9 doctors tell you that you experienced a miracle and science has no answers give me a call jagerfury, til then,
Kiss my ass,
Merry Christ mas to the billions out there!
Funny thing is, when i presented that NDE of Pam Reynolds, Jagefury tried to rationalise away her experience even though the surgeon at the end of the clip said "i have no explanation for what happened", yet Jagefury can......
So far we have seen on this site, Surf ape claiming that current cosmology is wrong, meaning he is smarter than Albert Einstein, Edwin Hubble, Sir ROger Penrose, Alexander Vilenkin, Surfape then proceeds to say he is an intellect.
Then, KK claims Quantum mechanics is actually a real theory even though Sir Roger Penrose said it is a collection of nice ideas to which KK said "who is Roger Pensrose" meaning he knows shit, little known to him that he is Hawkins colleague and co book author.....
And then System said that if i was brought up in a muslim family, i would of been a muslim NO MATTER what even though we are seeing plenty and plenty of muslims converting to Christianity.
I am going to make a recomendation to Covers management that they should conduct compulsory drug testing to all members.....
Posted:
#3299
Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:
Once again, your rules. Not mine. You are the one who is supposed to love his brother. Being glad over the suffering of others isn't a christian value. You sir, are a hypocrite. You feel bad for Hussein? He's the one suffering there. I'm sorry. I just was not a big fan of his.
I'd rather be playing D&D.
Posted:
#3300
Quote Originally Posted by jagerfury:
When did gloating over the "suffering" of others become a christian value? As long as it is a "non-believer" probably. These are your beliefs, not mine, and you sir are a hypocrite. Turn the other cheek, and all that? No? Not for you? You can still gloat over all those non-believers burning in hell, you can derive pleasure from that, and still be admitted into the gates of heaven?
When did gloating over the "suffering" of others become a christian value? As long as it is a "non-believer" probably. These are your beliefs, not mine, and you sir are a hypocrite. Turn the other cheek, and all that? No? Not for you? You can still gloat over all those non-believers burning in hell, you can derive pleasure from that, and still be admitted into the gates of heaven?
Didn't you know? In christianity you can do whatever you want. All you have to do is claim god as your daddy and say youre sorry...
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