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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 7:33 PM ET #3176

    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    Speaking about logic...wasn't it you that said something can come from nothing?

    How is that possible? That sounds so illogical?

    hey thats what i said...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    Speaking about logic...wasn't it you that said something can come from nothing?

    How is that possible? That sounds so illogical?

    hey thats what i said...

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 7:36 PM ET #3177

    Stop posting his quotes about christianity.  He hated organized religion.  That has nothing to do with his belief in god.  You dont have to belong to a religious group to believe in god....
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    Stop posting his quotes about christianity.  He hated organized religion.  That has nothing to do with his belief in god.  You dont have to belong to a religious group to believe in god....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 7:40 PM ET #3178

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Neither of us will be disagreeing that God exists.......

    Chirsitans, Mulims and person believe in the same God.

    The differences are that we believe Jesus was the messiah (God in flesh) where as the muslims believe he was a prophet...

    Different religions in the world dont disprove God



    never said they did. but they have very different ideas about jesus and heaven. what makes you think your right and they're wrong? other than, that is what you were taught?
    they have an old book and you have an old book...
    i'm saying the main reason you believe in what you believe is because of where and how you were raised...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Neither of us will be disagreeing that God exists.......

    Chirsitans, Mulims and person believe in the same God.

    The differences are that we believe Jesus was the messiah (God in flesh) where as the muslims believe he was a prophet...

    Different religions in the world dont disprove God



    never said they did. but they have very different ideas about jesus and heaven. what makes you think your right and they're wrong? other than, that is what you were taught?
    they have an old book and you have an old book...
    i'm saying the main reason you believe in what you believe is because of where and how you were raised...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 7:46 PM ET #3179

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    Nowhere in that statement does it say he didn't believe in god.  Thinking organized religion is stupid and not believing in god are two separate entities...

    Does it seem logical that after he (hitler) and his nazi regime killed 8 million innocent person that he and his nazi regime believed in God?

    I should think not!!

    They were a bunch of cold-blooded racists murderers who were that way because they didn't believe in God.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    Nowhere in that statement does it say he didn't believe in god.  Thinking organized religion is stupid and not believing in god are two separate entities...

    Does it seem logical that after he (hitler) and his nazi regime killed 8 million innocent person that he and his nazi regime believed in God?

    I should think not!!

    They were a bunch of cold-blooded racists murderers who were that way because they didn't believe in God.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 7:48 PM ET #3180

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:

    Stop posting his quotes about christianity.  He hated organized religion.  That has nothing to do with his belief in god.  You dont have to belong to a religious group to believe in god....

    2 things,

    you cant blame Christianity for his actions.

    Secondly, what God did he believe him?

    He sounded really f###ed up to me...

    what God did he believe him? Or was it the devil he beleved in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:

    Stop posting his quotes about christianity.  He hated organized religion.  That has nothing to do with his belief in god.  You dont have to belong to a religious group to believe in god....

    2 things,

    you cant blame Christianity for his actions.

    Secondly, what God did he believe him?

    He sounded really f###ed up to me...

    what God did he believe him? Or was it the devil he beleved in?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 7:48 PM ET #3181

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    hey thats what i said...

    Yeah...I know...lol

    That kk dude is one funny dude...isn't he?...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    hey thats what i said...

    Yeah...I know...lol

    That kk dude is one funny dude...isn't he?...lol

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 7:53 PM ET #3182

    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    Speaking about logic...wasn't it you that said something can come from nothing?


    you should not be talking about logic...

    How is that possible? That sounds so illogical?

    exactly! for example...any god

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    Speaking about logic...wasn't it you that said something can come from nothing?


    you should not be talking about logic...

    How is that possible? That sounds so illogical?

    exactly! for example...any god

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 7:59 PM ET #3183

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    2 things,

    you cant blame Christianity for his actions.

    Secondly, what God did he believe him?

    He sounded really f###ed up to me...

    what God did he believe him? Or was it the devil he beleved in?


    Who is blaming christianity?  Are you also saying you can't believe in god without an organized religion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    2 things,

    you cant blame Christianity for his actions.

    Secondly, what God did he believe him?

    He sounded really f###ed up to me...

    what God did he believe him? Or was it the devil he beleved in?


    Who is blaming christianity?  Are you also saying you can't believe in god without an organized religion?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 8:00 PM ET #3184

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:



    never said they did. but they have very different ideas about jesus and heaven. what makes you think your right and they're wrong? other than, that is what you were taught?
    they have an old book and you have an old book...
    i'm saying the main reason you believe in what you believe is because of where and how you were raised...

    I think there is very good reasons to believe in Christianity, the historicity of Christ, witnesses, the books that are known as the bible.

    I dont believe islam is true, i certainly dont believe Muhhamad was a prophet, there are NO witnesses, he went into a cave by himself for 6 weeks and he claims he witnessed an angel - again, no witnesses, he had a very large appetitie for sex which is not a characteritstic that a prophet of God would have.

    There si plenty more why i dont accept islam

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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:



    never said they did. but they have very different ideas about jesus and heaven. what makes you think your right and they're wrong? other than, that is what you were taught?
    they have an old book and you have an old book...
    i'm saying the main reason you believe in what you believe is because of where and how you were raised...

    I think there is very good reasons to believe in Christianity, the historicity of Christ, witnesses, the books that are known as the bible.

    I dont believe islam is true, i certainly dont believe Muhhamad was a prophet, there are NO witnesses, he went into a cave by himself for 6 weeks and he claims he witnessed an angel - again, no witnesses, he had a very large appetitie for sex which is not a characteritstic that a prophet of God would have.

    There si plenty more why i dont accept islam

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 8:01 PM ET #3185

    Just wanted to tell everybody, since I will be with family all day tomorrow, 

    MERRY CHRISTMAS 
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    Just wanted to tell everybody, since I will be with family all day tomorrow, 

    MERRY CHRISTMAS 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 8:02 PM ET #3186

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    I think there is very good reasons to believe in Christianity, the historicity of Christ, witnesses, the books that are known as the bible.

    I dont believe islam is true, i certainly dont believe Muhhamad was a prophet, there are NO witnesses, he went into a cave by himself for 6 weeks and he claims he witnessed an angel - again, no witnesses, he had a very large appetitie for sex which is not a characteritstic that a prophet of God would have.

    There si plenty more why i dont accept islam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    I think there is very good reasons to believe in Christianity, the historicity of Christ, witnesses, the books that are known as the bible.

    I dont believe islam is true, i certainly dont believe Muhhamad was a prophet, there are NO witnesses, he went into a cave by himself for 6 weeks and he claims he witnessed an angel - again, no witnesses, he had a very large appetitie for sex which is not a characteritstic that a prophet of God would have.

    There si plenty more why i dont accept islam

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 8:02 PM ET #3187

    And there are plenty of reasons why we don't accept Christianity. It works both ways Rostos
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    And there are plenty of reasons why we don't accept Christianity. It works both ways Rostos
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 8:02 PM ET #3188

    And there are plenty of reasons why we don't accept Christianity. It works both ways Rostos
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    And there are plenty of reasons why we don't accept Christianity. It works both ways Rostos
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 8:04 PM ET #3189

    Quote Originally Posted by EX4life:

    Just wanted to tell everybody, since I will be with family all day tomorrow, 

    MERRY CHRISTMAS 

    MERRY CHRISTMAS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EX4life:

    Just wanted to tell everybody, since I will be with family all day tomorrow, 

    MERRY CHRISTMAS 

    MERRY CHRISTMAS!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 8:04 PM ET #3190

    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    Does it seem logical that after he (hitler) and his nazi regime killed 8 million innocent person that he and his nazi regime believed in God?

    I should think not!!

    They were a bunch of cold-blooded racists murderers who were that way because they didn't believe in God.

     


    What are you talking about?  It doesn't matter if it is logical or not.  Hitler believed in a god...

    Also think about what you said.  They dont believe in god because they killed a lot of people.  Are you saying only people who believe don't do bad things?  You're lost...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    Does it seem logical that after he (hitler) and his nazi regime killed 8 million innocent person that he and his nazi regime believed in God?

    I should think not!!

    They were a bunch of cold-blooded racists murderers who were that way because they didn't believe in God.

     


    What are you talking about?  It doesn't matter if it is logical or not.  Hitler believed in a god...

    Also think about what you said.  They dont believe in god because they killed a lot of people.  Are you saying only people who believe don't do bad things?  You're lost...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 8:08 PM ET #3191

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    Who is blaming christianity?  Are you also saying you can't believe in god without an organized religion?

    But which God could he believe him?

    His own made up one? One that told him to kill 20 mill people for no reason at all?

    At least when God ordered the killing of the Caanaties, they were morally one of the worst people in the history of humanity, he was passing his judgement.

    The person were not such people....

    IMO, Hitler, was deflecting blame off himself, like most humans do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    Who is blaming christianity?  Are you also saying you can't believe in god without an organized religion?

    But which God could he believe him?

    His own made up one? One that told him to kill 20 mill people for no reason at all?

    At least when God ordered the killing of the Caanaties, they were morally one of the worst people in the history of humanity, he was passing his judgement.

    The person were not such people....

    IMO, Hitler, was deflecting blame off himself, like most humans do.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 8:10 PM ET #3192

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    I think there is very good reasons to believe in Christianity, the historicity of Christ, witnesses, the books that are known as the bible.

    I dont believe islam is true, i certainly dont believe Muhhamad was a prophet, there are NO witnesses, he went into a cave by himself for 6 weeks and he claims he witnessed an angel - again, no witnesses, he had a very large appetitie for sex which is not a characteritstic that a prophet of God would have.

    There si plenty more why i dont accept islam



    chances are, if you were raised muslim you would accept islam
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    I think there is very good reasons to believe in Christianity, the historicity of Christ, witnesses, the books that are known as the bible.

    I dont believe islam is true, i certainly dont believe Muhhamad was a prophet, there are NO witnesses, he went into a cave by himself for 6 weeks and he claims he witnessed an angel - again, no witnesses, he had a very large appetitie for sex which is not a characteritstic that a prophet of God would have.

    There si plenty more why i dont accept islam



    chances are, if you were raised muslim you would accept islam
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 8:15 PM ET #3193

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    But which God could he believe him?

    His own made up one? One that told him to kill 20 mill people for no reason at all?

    At least when God ordered the killing of the Caanaties, they were morally one of the worst people in the history of humanity, he was passing his judgement.

    The person were not such people....

    IMO, Hitler, was deflecting blame off himself, like most humans do.

    or maybe he truly believed that is what god wanted him to do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    But which God could he believe him?

    His own made up one? One that told him to kill 20 mill people for no reason at all?

    At least when God ordered the killing of the Caanaties, they were morally one of the worst people in the history of humanity, he was passing his judgement.

    The person were not such people....

    IMO, Hitler, was deflecting blame off himself, like most humans do.

    or maybe he truly believed that is what god wanted him to do...

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 8:15 PM ET #3194

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    And there are plenty of reasons why we don't accept Christianity. It works both ways Rostos

    And what are those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    And there are plenty of reasons why we don't accept Christianity. It works both ways Rostos

    And what are those?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 8:16 PM ET #3195

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    And what are those?



    wow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    And what are those?



    wow
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 8:18 PM ET #3196

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:



    chances are, if you were raised muslim you would accept islam

    You cant make that claim....

    There are plenty of peole who are born from atheistic parents who turn to religion, there are plenty of people who are born into religious families who turn into atheists....

    That is a uninformed argument you make, there is no evidence to back your claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:



    chances are, if you were raised muslim you would accept islam

    You cant make that claim....

    There are plenty of peole who are born from atheistic parents who turn to religion, there are plenty of people who are born into religious families who turn into atheists....

    That is a uninformed argument you make, there is no evidence to back your claim.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 8:19 PM ET #3197

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    But which God could he believe him?

    His own made up one? One that told him to kill 20 mill people for no reason at all?

    At least when God ordered the killing of the Caanaties, they were morally one of the worst people in the history of humanity, he was passing his judgement.

    The person were not such people....

    IMO, Hitler, was deflecting blame off himself, like most humans do.


    God is always condoning murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    But which God could he believe him?

    His own made up one? One that told him to kill 20 mill people for no reason at all?

    At least when God ordered the killing of the Caanaties, they were morally one of the worst people in the history of humanity, he was passing his judgement.

    The person were not such people....

    IMO, Hitler, was deflecting blame off himself, like most humans do.


    God is always condoning murder.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 8:20 PM ET #3198

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    What are you talking about?  It doesn't matter if it is logical or not.  Hitler believed in a god...

    Also think about what you said.  They dont believe in god because they killed a lot of people.  Are you saying only people who believe don't do bad things?  You're lost...

    No hitler didn't believe in God...not the Christian God anyway.

    No, you are lost, where did I say only people who believe don't do bad things? How many times do I have to tell you that we are all sinners?

    Given the scope of the atrocities that the nazi regime are guilty of committing (exp. killing 8 million innocent Jewish people and countless others), they definitely didn't believe in God...I rest my case!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    What are you talking about?  It doesn't matter if it is logical or not.  Hitler believed in a god...

    Also think about what you said.  They dont believe in god because they killed a lot of people.  Are you saying only people who believe don't do bad things?  You're lost...

    No hitler didn't believe in God...not the Christian God anyway.

    No, you are lost, where did I say only people who believe don't do bad things? How many times do I have to tell you that we are all sinners?

    Given the scope of the atrocities that the nazi regime are guilty of committing (exp. killing 8 million innocent Jewish people and countless others), they definitely didn't believe in God...I rest my case!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 8:20 PM ET #3199

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

    Which God?

    His own made up one? what are the reasons that he believes HIS God exists?

    if he believes in or has his own God, he has to give evidence why his God exists.....

    It couldnt have been from Christ, he certanly wasnt a muslim, and he wasnt a person......

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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

    Which God?

    His own made up one? what are the reasons that he believes HIS God exists?

    if he believes in or has his own God, he has to give evidence why his God exists.....

    It couldnt have been from Christ, he certanly wasnt a muslim, and he wasnt a person......

     
     
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    System I can't believe he actually responded with that. Your quote/response was exactly what I would've said.
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    System I can't believe he actually responded with that. Your quote/response was exactly what I would've said.
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