If Christ died on the cross for all of humanity

So Eisntein, Edwin Hubble, Alexander Vilenkin, Stephen Hawking, Sir ROger Penrose are all jokes?

Yet you are the self confessed intellect?

My work is done for now.  Even the most "rational" of the theists has been publicly humiliated, and the rest have fled.  Have fun guys.

Like things popping into existence uncaused in this universe?

Oh sorry, only universes can pop into existence from nothing, nothing else..

Not  $100 bills...

Just universes......

yes, they are all a joke, just like all dem other dern scientitststs.  Adieu from the self confessed intellect.  I'll be back to humiliate you further at a later date, for now, more important things await.

See you self confessed intellect......

"Cosmology is a joke", Penrose, Vilenkin, Hawking, Eisntein are ALL jokes, yet surf ape is the self confessed intellect.....

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ok, hypothetically, you are a male, with parents, born and raised in a muslim country by muslim parents, and you live there all of your life....what religion would you probably follow/believe????

No one can asnwer that.

If ALL muslims that were born and lived in that country there whole like and every single one remained a muslim, then it would probably be fair to say that i would be muslim, but as we see in reality, a number of muslims are turning to Christianity, therefore there is a probability that i could have been one of them..

Furthermore, we know that God judges everyone righteously.

IMO, i think the person who hears the gospel and rejects it are the ones who should be worried..again, this is just my opinion.

Based on that, i am a better baller than Dwight Howard and have a better arm than TIm Lincecum...

Since you have shown we are allowed to live in fantasy land for a few minutes, that is mine.....

I was answering another post and it must have gotten crossed.

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and if you were muslim, you would be trying to make everyone you know that muslim is the true religion, just like you are christianity

You cant say that, you are creating a hypothetical situation here.

I dont see any muslims here arguing for there religion.

Maybe if i was muslim i would have looked at Christianity and seen it to be rational. You cant talk about hypotheticals like that.

Furthermore, this topic is more about God existing (theism), because apparently i am not allowed to use the bible in this debate....

Again, i will say that God judges rightly,

Hitler didnt even believe in God.........he was raised in a christian household but he stopped believing.

He is also quoted as saying, "Christianity is the biggest threat to him and humanity".........

The book Hitler's Secret Conversations 1941-1944 published by Farrar, Straus and Young, Inc.first edition, 1953

Frrom hitler....

"The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the person. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of "

Hitler was blaming someone else for his actions, a typical human trait.....

Neither of us will be disagreeing that God exists.......

Chirsitans, Mulims and person believe in the same God.

The differences are that we believe Jesus was the messiah (God in flesh) where as the muslims believe he was a prophet...

Different religions in the world dont disprove God

Nowhere in that statement does it say he didn't believe in god.  Thinking organized religion is stupid and not believing in god are two separate entities...

He is saying Christianity is a lie, He doesnt believe in the Jewish God and he certainly wasnt muslim, so what was he?

Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43)

The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. (p 49-52)

Speaking about logic...wasn't it you that said something can come from nothing?

How is that possible? That sounds so illogical?