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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 1:28 AM ET #2876

    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:


    What part of the Bible can you prove that is not true?  And don't say the age of creation because it is never specified.  

    I gave examples of archeology that go right along helping the validity. 

    So what part of the Bible can you prove is not true? 



    Uhhh Noah's Ark and Jonah living inside a whale....
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    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:


    What part of the Bible can you prove that is not true?  And don't say the age of creation because it is never specified.  

    I gave examples of archeology that go right along helping the validity. 

    So what part of the Bible can you prove is not true? 



    Uhhh Noah's Ark and Jonah living inside a whale....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 2:08 AM ET #2877

    Ok prove it
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    Ok prove it
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 2:17 AM ET #2878

    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    Ok prove it

    HAHAHA...  You are aware that the Catholic church has admitted that the bible is not 100% factual right???

    This is not a debate...
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    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    Ok prove it

    HAHAHA...  You are aware that the Catholic church has admitted that the bible is not 100% factual right???

    This is not a debate...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 2:26 AM ET #2879

    Not that this matters because God is beyond time and space and He can manipulate scientific laws whenever He wishes to carry out His plan or prophecy.

    But just to show you possibility

    (4) Sperm whales are capable of swallowing humans. They live on squid, which they swallow whole. In 1955 a 405-pound squid was removed intact and alive from the belly of a sperm whale.  

    It actually would be possible to survive in a whale. There is air in the belly and the digestive breakdown would not occur with a prey still being alive. 

    Furthermore, there was no Hebrew translation so we say whale. The translation is closer to Sea Monster so we cannot really just say whale. 

    I believe it was Rostos that showed it would not take millions of animals to board Noah's Ark for species to survive. That's an easy one. 

    I doubt Jonah was obese, probably weighed a lot less than the 405 pound squid. 


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    Not that this matters because God is beyond time and space and He can manipulate scientific laws whenever He wishes to carry out His plan or prophecy.

    But just to show you possibility

    (4) Sperm whales are capable of swallowing humans. They live on squid, which they swallow whole. In 1955 a 405-pound squid was removed intact and alive from the belly of a sperm whale.  

    It actually would be possible to survive in a whale. There is air in the belly and the digestive breakdown would not occur with a prey still being alive. 

    Furthermore, there was no Hebrew translation so we say whale. The translation is closer to Sea Monster so we cannot really just say whale. 

    I believe it was Rostos that showed it would not take millions of animals to board Noah's Ark for species to survive. That's an easy one. 

    I doubt Jonah was obese, probably weighed a lot less than the 405 pound squid. 


     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 2:28 AM ET #2880

    I'm not Catholic. 
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    I'm not Catholic. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 2:52 AM ET #2881

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    And IMO, believing in something that transcends reality is absurd. I prefer to believe in observable phenomena and theoretically observable and testable theories as opposed to theories that are completely untestable and unobservable.

    Do you even know what you are saying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    And IMO, believing in something that transcends reality is absurd. I prefer to believe in observable phenomena and theoretically observable and testable theories as opposed to theories that are completely untestable and unobservable.

    Do you even know what you are saying?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 3:01 AM ET #2882

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    Some theories aren't as credible as others. Example: the flying spaghetti monster. Should we not laugh at that theory? By your logic, every theory is equally viable. But we know that not to be the case.

    Like something coming from nothing is credible?

    If you told someone this they will think you need to visit a mental institution

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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    Some theories aren't as credible as others. Example: the flying spaghetti monster. Should we not laugh at that theory? By your logic, every theory is equally viable. But we know that not to be the case.

    Like something coming from nothing is credible?

    If you told someone this they will think you need to visit a mental institution

     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 3:12 AM ET #2883

    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    Not that this matters because God is beyond time and space and He can manipulate scientific laws whenever He wishes to carry out His plan or prophecy.

    But just to show you possibility

    (4) Sperm whales are capable of swallowing humans. They live on squid, which they swallow whole. In 1955 a 405-pound squid was removed intact and alive from the belly of a sperm whale.  

    It actually would be possible to survive in a whale. There is air in the belly and the digestive breakdown would not occur with a prey still being alive. 

    Furthermore, there was no Hebrew translation so we say whale. The translation is closer to Sea Monster so we cannot really just say whale. 

    I believe it was Rostos that showed it would not take millions of animals to board Noah's Ark for species to survive. That's an easy one. 

    I doubt Jonah was obese, probably weighed a lot less than the 405 pound squid. 




    Think about what you are saying right now...  You are trying to convince another human being that someone can live inside a whale......

    At the time the Noah's ark story supposedly took place, there was estimated to be between 2 and 5 million species alive.  Let's say 2 million is right.  Noah needed to take 2 of each, so that is 4 million...  According to the bible, the boat was about 450 feet long.  I think you can figure out this is impossible.  I like how you said "easy one" as if it is just such an obvious and easy answer
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    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    Not that this matters because God is beyond time and space and He can manipulate scientific laws whenever He wishes to carry out His plan or prophecy.

    But just to show you possibility

    (4) Sperm whales are capable of swallowing humans. They live on squid, which they swallow whole. In 1955 a 405-pound squid was removed intact and alive from the belly of a sperm whale.  

    It actually would be possible to survive in a whale. There is air in the belly and the digestive breakdown would not occur with a prey still being alive. 

    Furthermore, there was no Hebrew translation so we say whale. The translation is closer to Sea Monster so we cannot really just say whale. 

    I believe it was Rostos that showed it would not take millions of animals to board Noah's Ark for species to survive. That's an easy one. 

    I doubt Jonah was obese, probably weighed a lot less than the 405 pound squid. 




    Think about what you are saying right now...  You are trying to convince another human being that someone can live inside a whale......

    At the time the Noah's ark story supposedly took place, there was estimated to be between 2 and 5 million species alive.  Let's say 2 million is right.  Noah needed to take 2 of each, so that is 4 million...  According to the bible, the boat was about 450 feet long.  I think you can figure out this is impossible.  I like how you said "easy one" as if it is just such an obvious and easy answer
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 3:15 AM ET #2884

    I don't have to prove a human could do it. It's possible. 
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    I don't have to prove a human could do it. It's possible. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 3:17 AM ET #2885

    Refer to Rostos post about the Ark. It explains it well
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    Refer to Rostos post about the Ark. It explains it well
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 3:18 AM ET #2886

    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    I don't have to prove a human could do it. It's possible. 


    You realize Jonah lived in there for 3 days right?  Do you understand how stupid this is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    I don't have to prove a human could do it. It's possible. 


    You realize Jonah lived in there for 3 days right?  Do you understand how stupid this is?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 3:20 AM ET #2887

    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    Refer to Rostos post about the Ark. It explains it well


    Firstly, I believe it was matt who made the ark post.  Secondly, if you think Noah only needed to take 16,000 out of 4 million, then clearly you have no grasp on reality.  The funny thing is this isn't the dumbest thing you've said on this page, because you think a human being LIVED inside a WHALE for 3 days..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    Refer to Rostos post about the Ark. It explains it well


    Firstly, I believe it was matt who made the ark post.  Secondly, if you think Noah only needed to take 16,000 out of 4 million, then clearly you have no grasp on reality.  The funny thing is this isn't the dumbest thing you've said on this page, because you think a human being LIVED inside a WHALE for 3 days..........
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 3:21 AM ET #2888

    And 4 million is on the low end.  It could have been 10 million....
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    And 4 million is on the low end.  It could have been 10 million....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 3:27 AM ET #2889

    No, it's possible. 

    If I had a choice as to which was more possible, live in the whale for 3 days or create life with a spark, 

    Gimme dat whale belly!
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    No, it's possible. 

    If I had a choice as to which was more possible, live in the whale for 3 days or create life with a spark, 

    Gimme dat whale belly!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 3:32 AM ET #2890

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Like something coming from nothing is credible?

    If you told someone this they will think you need to visit a mental institution


    So I guess Stephen Hawking should visit a mental institution?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Like something coming from nothing is credible?

    If you told someone this they will think you need to visit a mental institution


    So I guess Stephen Hawking should visit a mental institution?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 3:35 AM ET #2891

    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    No, it's possible. 

    If I had a choice as to which was more possible, live in the whale for 3 days or create life with a spark, 

    Gimme dat whale belly!

    If I had a choice as to which was more possible, a magic being in the sky that defies the laws of physics or create life with a spark,

    Gimme dat spark!

    Oh wait..I HAVE THAT CHOICE! YAY ME!
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    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    No, it's possible. 

    If I had a choice as to which was more possible, live in the whale for 3 days or create life with a spark, 

    Gimme dat whale belly!

    If I had a choice as to which was more possible, a magic being in the sky that defies the laws of physics or create life with a spark,

    Gimme dat spark!

    Oh wait..I HAVE THAT CHOICE! YAY ME!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 3:35 AM ET #2892

    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    No, it's possible. 

    If I had a choice as to which was more possible, live in the whale for 3 days or create life with a spark, 

    Gimme dat whale belly!


    Please do us all a favor...
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    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    No, it's possible. 

    If I had a choice as to which was more possible, live in the whale for 3 days or create life with a spark, 

    Gimme dat whale belly!


    Please do us all a favor...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 3:36 AM ET #2893

    How big do these whales get? In 1933 a sulfur bottom whale was caught off the coast of cape cod it was 100 ft long and had a mouth over 10 foot wide. A man who was unfortunate enough to be swallowed could take refuge in any one of the whales stomach chambers, or the large cranial cavities (extensions of the nasal sinus) which measure 7 feet high, 7ft wide and 14 ft long. More than big enough for a man to hide safely inside.

    Boo yah ! Are you kidding me? That's easy! 

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    How big do these whales get? In 1933 a sulfur bottom whale was caught off the coast of cape cod it was 100 ft long and had a mouth over 10 foot wide. A man who was unfortunate enough to be swallowed could take refuge in any one of the whales stomach chambers, or the large cranial cavities (extensions of the nasal sinus) which measure 7 feet high, 7ft wide and 14 ft long. More than big enough for a man to hide safely inside.

    Boo yah ! Are you kidding me? That's easy! 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 3:37 AM ET #2894

    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    Not that this matters because God is beyond time and space and He can manipulate scientific laws whenever He wishes to carry out His plan or prophecy.

    LOL @ believing in things beyond space and time that can defy the laws of physics...definitely a more viable theory than everything happened by chance WITHIN THE LAWS OF PHYSICS...yeah sure, I'll believe in the thing that defies the laws of physics lololololol

    But just to show you possibility

    (4) Sperm whales are capable of swallowing humans. They live on squid, which they swallow whole. In 1955 a 405-pound squid was removed intact and alive from the belly of a sperm whale.  

    It actually would be possible to survive in a whale. There is air in the belly and the digestive breakdown would not occur with a prey still being alive. 

    Furthermore, there was no Hebrew translation so we say whale. The translation is closer to Sea Monster so we cannot really just say whale. 

    I believe it was Rostos that showed it would not take millions of animals to board Noah's Ark for species to survive. That's an easy one. 

    I doubt Jonah was obese, probably weighed a lot less than the 405 pound squid. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    Not that this matters because God is beyond time and space and He can manipulate scientific laws whenever He wishes to carry out His plan or prophecy.

    LOL @ believing in things beyond space and time that can defy the laws of physics...definitely a more viable theory than everything happened by chance WITHIN THE LAWS OF PHYSICS...yeah sure, I'll believe in the thing that defies the laws of physics lololololol

    But just to show you possibility

    (4) Sperm whales are capable of swallowing humans. They live on squid, which they swallow whole. In 1955 a 405-pound squid was removed intact and alive from the belly of a sperm whale.  

    It actually would be possible to survive in a whale. There is air in the belly and the digestive breakdown would not occur with a prey still being alive. 

    Furthermore, there was no Hebrew translation so we say whale. The translation is closer to Sea Monster so we cannot really just say whale. 

    I believe it was Rostos that showed it would not take millions of animals to board Noah's Ark for species to survive. That's an easy one. 

    I doubt Jonah was obese, probably weighed a lot less than the 405 pound squid. 


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    How big do these whales get? In 1933 a sulfur bottom whale was caught off the coast of cape cod it was 100 ft long and had a mouth over 10 foot wide. A man who was unfortunate enough to be swallowed could take refuge in any one of the whales stomach chambers, or the large cranial cavities (extensions of the nasal sinus) which measure 7 feet high, 7ft wide and 14 ft long. More than big enough for a man to hide safely inside.

    Boo yah ! Are you kidding me? That's easy! 



    That's easy lol...  How you planning on breathing in there for 3 days? lol

    This is too funny
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    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    How big do these whales get? In 1933 a sulfur bottom whale was caught off the coast of cape cod it was 100 ft long and had a mouth over 10 foot wide. A man who was unfortunate enough to be swallowed could take refuge in any one of the whales stomach chambers, or the large cranial cavities (extensions of the nasal sinus) which measure 7 feet high, 7ft wide and 14 ft long. More than big enough for a man to hide safely inside.

    Boo yah ! Are you kidding me? That's easy! 



    That's easy lol...  How you planning on breathing in there for 3 days? lol

    This is too funny
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 3:43 AM ET #2896

    There's air in there. Read a book lol 
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    There's air in there. Read a book lol 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    There's air in there. Read a book lol 



    I'm just stunned by how dumb you are.  Clearly you must be saying this stuff as a joke in an attempt to aggravate me.  I can't fathom how a person could be this unintelligent...

    For the sake of it, I'll continue this "debate" for my own amusement...


    How can you breathe after the whale has been underwater for some time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:

    There's air in there. Read a book lol 



    I'm just stunned by how dumb you are.  Clearly you must be saying this stuff as a joke in an attempt to aggravate me.  I can't fathom how a person could be this unintelligent...

    For the sake of it, I'll continue this "debate" for my own amusement...


    How can you breathe after the whale has been underwater for some time?
     
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    My second question is involving the stomach.  How can someone survive the gastric acids?
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    My second question is involving the stomach.  How can someone survive the gastric acids?
     
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    You are aware you're arguing over whether a human can survive inside a whale...and somehow this is relevant. The better question is: why is this even in the bible?
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    You are aware you're arguing over whether a human can survive inside a whale...and somehow this is relevant. The better question is: why is this even in the bible?
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    You are aware you're arguing over whether a human can survive inside a whale...and somehow this is relevant. The better question is: why is this even in the bible?


    I'm having too much fun with this.  Don't ruin it for me! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    You are aware you're arguing over whether a human can survive inside a whale...and somehow this is relevant. The better question is: why is this even in the bible?


    I'm having too much fun with this.  Don't ruin it for me! 
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