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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2013 - 11:52 PM ET #101

    Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:


    Suprise suprise.  Lettuce is a carb. 

    lettuce has a very very very small amount of carbs in it.  and for that matter carbs have received a bad rap. Not all carbs are bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:


    Suprise suprise.  Lettuce is a carb. 

    lettuce has a very very very small amount of carbs in it.  and for that matter carbs have received a bad rap. Not all carbs are bad.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2013 - 11:57 PM ET #102

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:


    lettuce has a very very very small amount of carbs in it.  and for that matter carbs have received a bad rap. Not all carbs are bad.

    What you are trying to say is that lettuce is low in calories. But it's a carb. Not barely a carb. It is a carb. 

    FYI. I have quite the experience in RD work.  Registered dietician if you don't know what RD stands for. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:


    lettuce has a very very very small amount of carbs in it.  and for that matter carbs have received a bad rap. Not all carbs are bad.

    What you are trying to say is that lettuce is low in calories. But it's a carb. Not barely a carb. It is a carb. 

    FYI. I have quite the experience in RD work.  Registered dietician if you don't know what RD stands for. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2013 - 12:05 AM ET #103

    Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:


    What you are trying to say is that lettuce is low in calories. But it's a carb. Not barely a carb. It is a carb. 

    FYI. I have quite the experience in RD work.  Registered dietician if you don't know what RD stands for. 
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    Yes they have carbs. almost everything has carbs. but...  1) they have a very small amount of carbs and 2) the types of carbs that they have are not bad for you.  All carbs are not equal -- that is fact.  to argue lettuce is not a healthy option is not correct an as and RD you should know better .

    I am not going to get into the "muscle flexing game" but I can assure you that I am well qualified to express my opinions on this topic. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:


    What you are trying to say is that lettuce is low in calories. But it's a carb. Not barely a carb. It is a carb. 

    FYI. I have quite the experience in RD work.  Registered dietician if you don't know what RD stands for. 
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    Yes they have carbs. almost everything has carbs. but...  1) they have a very small amount of carbs and 2) the types of carbs that they have are not bad for you.  All carbs are not equal -- that is fact.  to argue lettuce is not a healthy option is not correct an as and RD you should know better .

    I am not going to get into the "muscle flexing game" but I can assure you that I am well qualified to express my opinions on this topic. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2013 - 12:08 AM ET #104

    and I am not sure what you are trying to imply.  Are you suggesting that a salad is not a better option than fast food? As an RD would you suggest this to someone?

    The point is that at the end of the day certain items are clearly better options than others.
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    and I am not sure what you are trying to imply.  Are you suggesting that a salad is not a better option than fast food? As an RD would you suggest this to someone?

    The point is that at the end of the day certain items are clearly better options than others.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2013 - 12:10 AM ET #105

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

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    Yes they have carbs. almost everything has carbs. but...  1) they have a very small amount of carbs and 2) the types of carbs that they have are not bad for you.  All carbs are not equal -- that is fact.  to argue lettuce is not a healthy option is not correct an as and RD you should know better .

    I am not going to get into the "muscle flexing game" but I can assure you that I am well qualified to express my opinions on this topic. 

    No one ever said lettuce is not healthy. I just said the fun fact is that most people don't realize lettuce is a carb.  

    Animals don't have carbs.....   Which means meat isn't a carb.   So no, not everything we eat is a carb.  
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    Yes they have carbs. almost everything has carbs. but...  1) they have a very small amount of carbs and 2) the types of carbs that they have are not bad for you.  All carbs are not equal -- that is fact.  to argue lettuce is not a healthy option is not correct an as and RD you should know better .

    I am not going to get into the "muscle flexing game" but I can assure you that I am well qualified to express my opinions on this topic. 

    No one ever said lettuce is not healthy. I just said the fun fact is that most people don't realize lettuce is a carb.  

    Animals don't have carbs.....   Which means meat isn't a carb.   So no, not everything we eat is a carb.  
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2013 - 12:16 AM ET #106

    Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:


    No one ever said lettuce is not healthy. I just said the fun fact is that most people don't realize lettuce is a carb.  

    Animals don't have carbs.....   Which means meat isn't a carb.   So no, not everything we eat is a carb.  
     
    fun fact 

    yes meat (natural) has no carbs. But that also assumes it is cooked with no marinade (most of which contain a lot of sugar).  

    But does this mean that we need to shift the conversations to cholesterol, endothelial function, coronary disease, ketone bodies etc...?

    I will repeat -- carbs are not bad as long as they come from the right source.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:


    No one ever said lettuce is not healthy. I just said the fun fact is that most people don't realize lettuce is a carb.  

    Animals don't have carbs.....   Which means meat isn't a carb.   So no, not everything we eat is a carb.  
     
    fun fact 

    yes meat (natural) has no carbs. But that also assumes it is cooked with no marinade (most of which contain a lot of sugar).  

    But does this mean that we need to shift the conversations to cholesterol, endothelial function, coronary disease, ketone bodies etc...?

    I will repeat -- carbs are not bad as long as they come from the right source.  
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2013 - 12:23 AM ET #107

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    I have a 4.5 year old so I am right in the "thick of it".  I am not saying that I am right or have all of the answers but I am speaking from an angle of experience. 

    You're fine dude. Kids have a stomach like a vulture. Just not too much at Macs. Consider it a treat on special days.

    Scally opened a silly thread.

    Taco Bell burritos and tacos btw are fine as a bonus with good daily eating habits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    I have a 4.5 year old so I am right in the "thick of it".  I am not saying that I am right or have all of the answers but I am speaking from an angle of experience. 

    You're fine dude. Kids have a stomach like a vulture. Just not too much at Macs. Consider it a treat on special days.

    Scally opened a silly thread.

    Taco Bell burritos and tacos btw are fine as a bonus with good daily eating habits.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2013 - 12:40 AM ET #108

    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    You're fine dude. Kids have a stomach like a vulture. Just not too much at Macs. Consider it a treat on special days.

    Scally opened a silly thread.

    Taco Bell burritos and tacos btw are fine as a bonus with good daily eating habits.


    i hear you.  Although i do not think it is a silly thread.  it is obviously an issue that has many angles to it. but is no doubt becoming a major issue in society. but moderation / education is def. key 
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    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    You're fine dude. Kids have a stomach like a vulture. Just not too much at Macs. Consider it a treat on special days.

    Scally opened a silly thread.

    Taco Bell burritos and tacos btw are fine as a bonus with good daily eating habits.


    i hear you.  Although i do not think it is a silly thread.  it is obviously an issue that has many angles to it. but is no doubt becoming a major issue in society. but moderation / education is def. key 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2013 - 1:45 AM ET #109

    FACT-----eating a grilled chicken salad with no croutons (even if it is covered in ranch dressing which has a fair amount of carbs) is a hell of a lot better option than eating a Big Mac even without fries at McD's. This should be common sense, even for a RD.
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    FACT-----eating a grilled chicken salad with no croutons (even if it is covered in ranch dressing which has a fair amount of carbs) is a hell of a lot better option than eating a Big Mac even without fries at McD's. This should be common sense, even for a RD.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2013 - 1:46 AM ET #110

    Mattbrot, I'm not sure if that guy was just kidding or what....leafy greens/green veggies have a tiny number of carbs. I literally am not sure if that guy was joking or not 
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    Mattbrot, I'm not sure if that guy was just kidding or what....leafy greens/green veggies have a tiny number of carbs. I literally am not sure if that guy was joking or not 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2013 - 1:49 AM ET #111

    That's why that "Subway diet" was total bs. You are consuming a huge number of carbs with those sub rolls.
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    That's why that "Subway diet" was total bs. You are consuming a huge number of carbs with those sub rolls.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:

    Mattbrot, I'm not sure if that guy was just kidding or what....leafy greens/green veggies have a tiny number of carbs. I literally am not sure if that guy was joking or not 

    You guys are confused.

    It's either 1. fat  2. protein  3. carb

    You can take a guess which one lettuce is. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:

    Mattbrot, I'm not sure if that guy was just kidding or what....leafy greens/green veggies have a tiny number of carbs. I literally am not sure if that guy was joking or not 

    You guys are confused.

    It's either 1. fat  2. protein  3. carb

    You can take a guess which one lettuce is. 

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2013 - 1:56 AM ET #113

    Lettuce is pretty much like water---it has little in it. Basically zero real nutritional value or detriments. 
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    Lettuce is pretty much like water---it has little in it. Basically zero real nutritional value or detriments. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:

    Lettuce is pretty much like water---it has little in it. Basically zero real nutritional value or detriments. 

    What does that have to do with it being or not being a carb?

    Lettuce gives you fiber.  Lettuce does have nutritional value.  Not all lettuce are the same- for example iceberg compared to romaine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:

    Lettuce is pretty much like water---it has little in it. Basically zero real nutritional value or detriments. 

    What does that have to do with it being or not being a carb?

    Lettuce gives you fiber.  Lettuce does have nutritional value.  Not all lettuce are the same- for example iceberg compared to romaine.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2013 - 2:07 AM ET #115

    Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:

    What does that have to do with it being or not being a carb?

    Lettuce gives you fiber.  Lettuce does have nutritional value.  Not all lettuce are the same- for example iceberg compared to romaine.


     I was referring to iceberg lettuce, which they use at most restaurants and fast food joints. I'm not gonna get into the exact science of lettuce...technically you might be right, it may be a carb...but it's very insignificant. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:

    What does that have to do with it being or not being a carb?

    Lettuce gives you fiber.  Lettuce does have nutritional value.  Not all lettuce are the same- for example iceberg compared to romaine.


     I was referring to iceberg lettuce, which they use at most restaurants and fast food joints. I'm not gonna get into the exact science of lettuce...technically you might be right, it may be a carb...but it's very insignificant. 
     
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    Nutritional education is something we, as a society, are sorely lacking. I believe it should be offered in public schools through
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    Nutritional education is something we, as a society, are sorely lacking. I believe it should be offered in public schools through
     
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    Looks like I need some technological education as seen in my previous post.

    Anyways, watch documentaries about food/nutrition, read books by Michael Pollan, and watch Ted Talks by Jaime Oliver and others involved in nutrition.

    Lots of easy to find info on Ted Talks, Netflix, YouTube, and books.

    I also recommend reading up on monoculture vs polyculture farming. It's really interesting to find out how it affects our world in more ways than just how we eat food.
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    Looks like I need some technological education as seen in my previous post.

    Anyways, watch documentaries about food/nutrition, read books by Michael Pollan, and watch Ted Talks by Jaime Oliver and others involved in nutrition.

    Lots of easy to find info on Ted Talks, Netflix, YouTube, and books.

    I also recommend reading up on monoculture vs polyculture farming. It's really interesting to find out how it affects our world in more ways than just how we eat food.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

     The sour cream comes out of a spackle gun for god's sake.
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    Doesn't mean it's not sour cream.  Sour cream isn't the easiest to spoon on a taco (soft or hard shell) without creating all sorts of problems (due its consistency).  It's just a tool that makes the easier.  It is called FAST food.  

    I'm not saying I even know what kind of sour cream they use.  But to just assume it's horrible because they use a spackle gun is prejudiced behavior if you ask me.  
    One of my favorite and simplest kitchen tools to use when making tacos at home is using a small ziplock sandwich baggie stuffed with sour cream and cutting tip off of one of the corners, making it a little piping bag for applying the cream into those tricky shells. 
    My old lady is such a mule headed winch about somethings, that she refuses to even try it because it was my idea. She will continue to plop down those uneven turd like dollips with a spoon, and insist that its better her way.    COME ON WOMAN!!!   turn off the record player and join us in the 21st century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

     The sour cream comes out of a spackle gun for god's sake.
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    Doesn't mean it's not sour cream.  Sour cream isn't the easiest to spoon on a taco (soft or hard shell) without creating all sorts of problems (due its consistency).  It's just a tool that makes the easier.  It is called FAST food.  

    I'm not saying I even know what kind of sour cream they use.  But to just assume it's horrible because they use a spackle gun is prejudiced behavior if you ask me.  
    One of my favorite and simplest kitchen tools to use when making tacos at home is using a small ziplock sandwich baggie stuffed with sour cream and cutting tip off of one of the corners, making it a little piping bag for applying the cream into those tricky shells. 
    My old lady is such a mule headed winch about somethings, that she refuses to even try it because it was my idea. She will continue to plop down those uneven turd like dollips with a spoon, and insist that its better her way.    COME ON WOMAN!!!   turn off the record player and join us in the 21st century.
     
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    See,,,   she flusters me so much on this, that I now refer to her as a "winch" instead of a the correct term she deserves...  "wench"
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    See,,,   she flusters me so much on this, that I now refer to her as a "winch" instead of a the correct term she deserves...  "wench"
     
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    All these foods are bad for you, correct, but no where near as bad on your body as stress is...........
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    All these foods are bad for you, correct, but no where near as bad on your body as stress is...........
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    You're fine dude. Kids have a stomach like a vulture. Just not too much at Macs. Consider it a treat on special days.

    Scally opened a silly thread.

    Taco Bell burritos and tacos btw are fine as a bonus with good daily eating habits.


    They are not a 'bonus.'

    They are eaten regularly by those with access to them.

    Not all day every day but if you have a Taco Bell/Pizza Hut by/in your school/work you will be there more often then not.

    Their sales make Wall Street very happy for a reason, and it's not because people buy them as a bonus or treat once in a while.


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    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    You're fine dude. Kids have a stomach like a vulture. Just not too much at Macs. Consider it a treat on special days.

    Scally opened a silly thread.

    Taco Bell burritos and tacos btw are fine as a bonus with good daily eating habits.


    They are not a 'bonus.'

    They are eaten regularly by those with access to them.

    Not all day every day but if you have a Taco Bell/Pizza Hut by/in your school/work you will be there more often then not.

    Their sales make Wall Street very happy for a reason, and it's not because people buy them as a bonus or treat once in a while.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpaction:

    Here is an interesting video on the math behind food labels.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HGunZpKLb5o

    Good video.

    "Yes yes, low fat."

    Whatever the kid said at that point the guy would say yes to to sell it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpaction:

    Here is an interesting video on the math behind food labels.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HGunZpKLb5o

    Good video.

    "Yes yes, low fat."

    Whatever the kid said at that point the guy would say yes to to sell it.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:

    Mattbrot, I'm not sure if that guy was just kidding or what....leafy greens/green veggies have a tiny number of carbs. I literally am not sure if that guy was joking or not 

    He's not kidding. Believe me, he's not kidding...
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    Mattbrot, I'm not sure if that guy was just kidding or what....leafy greens/green veggies have a tiny number of carbs. I literally am not sure if that guy was joking or not 

    He's not kidding. Believe me, he's not kidding...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    All these foods are bad for you, correct, but no where near as bad on your body as stress is...........

    That's true but you are not ingesting toxins with stress, but stress occurs through a normal physiological process, albeit ultimately harmful.

    Here you are literally shoveling foreign substances into your body for no other reason that your brain, tongue and stomach desire them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    All these foods are bad for you, correct, but no where near as bad on your body as stress is...........

    That's true but you are not ingesting toxins with stress, but stress occurs through a normal physiological process, albeit ultimately harmful.

    Here you are literally shoveling foreign substances into your body for no other reason that your brain, tongue and stomach desire them.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

     The sour cream comes out of a spackle gun for god's sake.
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    Doesn't mean it's not sour cream.  Sour cream isn't the easiest to spoon on a taco (soft or hard shell) without creating all sorts of problems (due its consistency).  It's just a tool that makes the easier.  It is called FAST food.  

    I'm not saying I even know what kind of sour cream they use.  But to just assume it's horrible because they use a spackle gun is prejudiced behavior if you ask me.  

    Well - I am a vegetarian.  Do you know that TB sour cream has gelatin in it?  Gelatin is basically ground up cow bones and hooves.

    There is no reason to have gelatin in sour cream....

    Anyway - haven't eaten MCD or TB in probably 10 years.  I think I know why Scal asked - because 10 years ago there were far less choices - but now with all of the fast casual choices out there like Panera, Chipotle etc - I really don't know why someone would eat at MCD or TB either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

     The sour cream comes out of a spackle gun for god's sake.
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    Doesn't mean it's not sour cream.  Sour cream isn't the easiest to spoon on a taco (soft or hard shell) without creating all sorts of problems (due its consistency).  It's just a tool that makes the easier.  It is called FAST food.  

    I'm not saying I even know what kind of sour cream they use.  But to just assume it's horrible because they use a spackle gun is prejudiced behavior if you ask me.  

    Well - I am a vegetarian.  Do you know that TB sour cream has gelatin in it?  Gelatin is basically ground up cow bones and hooves.

    There is no reason to have gelatin in sour cream....

    Anyway - haven't eaten MCD or TB in probably 10 years.  I think I know why Scal asked - because 10 years ago there were far less choices - but now with all of the fast casual choices out there like Panera, Chipotle etc - I really don't know why someone would eat at MCD or TB either.

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