Nick Saban is a HUGE box!

Well mattbrot, if that is so, why didn't you start a thread objecting to Oklahoma State being ranked behind both Satnford and Virginia Tech before last week?

Back on November 13, Oklahoma State was 10 & 0 and ranked #2, while 9 & 1 Alabama was ranked #3. Nobody had a problem with either ranking.  Both rankings made sense.  Oklahoma State along with LSU were the last two unbeaten teams, and Alabama easily had the "best" loss of any of the 1-loss teams, so having them at #3 (the highest ranked 1-loss team) made sense.

The following week, however, everything changed.  The #2, 4, 5, and 7th ranked teams all lost.  Oklahoma State, as #2 ranked team, lost to a 28 point underdog.  Accordingly Oklahoma State dropped from #2 to #6.  Aside from Boise State, they were the lowest ranked 1-loss team because they had by far the worse loss.  Alabama lost to LSU, Arkansas had lost to Alabama, Virginia Tech lost to Clemson, and Stanford lost to Oregon.

Nobody had a problem with these rankings.  No one started any threads on Covers about so and so being a box because they put Oklahoma State at #6.  No one started any threads on Covers about so and so being a box because they put Alabama at #2, or about Oregon being ranked 2 spots ahead of Oklahoma State.  Everyone was cool with that.

Now, all of sudden, Covers posters are up in arms and are bitching because some coaches still have Stanford ranked ahead of Oklahoma State where they belong.

Of course what these Covers posters are really pissed off about is not whether Stanford should be ranked ahead of or behind Oklahoma State, they're complaining about the worst 1-loss team outside of Boise not leap-frogging both Stanford AND Alabama.  And the funny thing is that even the people making this argument concede the best two teams are LSU and Alabama, and thus concede how utterly ridiculous their illogical argument is.

Below is a link to my shocked face because the vast majority of the people who had a vote in this matter elected to not re-write the rule book at the 11th hour as some of our genius Covers posters would have them do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBTpjkPiVyg

Recall the games you are talking about, but don't recall the specifics on how the rankings played out that season.  I know it was crazy because a 2-loss LSU played for the championship.

That said, there is a huge difference in a team playing an extra game because they are playing in their conference championship, and another team simply finishing out their regular season schedule.  In this case Stanford is being punished not because Oklahoma State was playing in a Big 12  conference championship game, but because the last game of their regular season happened to be scheduled a week earlier than Oklahoma State's last game.

You are comparing apples and oranges.

In the first scenario we're talking about deciding which SEC would face Ohio State for the national championship.  Ohio State was already in, and with LSU winning the conference championship they were chosen over Georgia, and rightly so.

In the second scenario we're talking about two teams from the same conference playing for the national championship.  Obviously there can only be one conference champion, so if two teams from the same conference are playing each other for the national championship, then obviously one of those teams won't be a conference champion.  It's not possible.

Had Oklahoma State beaten Iowa State, we wouldn't be arguing about which SEC team would play them.  Clearly Oklahoma State would be playing LSU.  This case is synonmous with the 2007 LSU/UGA case.

Of course all of this could be avoided with a simply 4-8 team playoff format.

someone shoot this fucker for this thread

ice4blood u are real tuff behind this computer come down to tuscaloosa and talk that shit watch wat happen

cowboys got robbed......... destroyed sooners..... basically held Landry to 3 points........

@mattbrot kick rocks

Jimmy-

I guess i am not the only one taking Stanford plus the points?

Ice.. We get that you have all the facts that should have OK St in the title game.. we get that, trust me!!

The fact is that Alabama is playing LSU.. I'm not opposed at all to seeing LSU and OkSt, but it's not gonna happen, so ranting about Saban being a box is just stupid..

Just boycott the bowls and make $ in the NFL.. BOL the rest of the year,,

At first blush I like Stanford, but I do want to take a closer look before pull the trigger.

Jimmy-

I haven't pulled the trigger yet on that game but i see everybody all over Ok. St. They looked good blasting Oklahoma but the Sooners have mailed in the season and they were incredibly banged up as well. Stanford won't give up and Luck should put up plenty of points against that defense. Hopefully the line will hit +4 and i will jump on it then.

Recall the games you are talking about, but don't recall the specifics on how the rankings played out that season.  I know it was crazy because a 2-loss LSU played for the championship.

That said, there is a huge difference in a team playing an extra game because they are playing in their conference championship, and another team simply finishing out their regular season schedule.  In this case Stanford is being punished not because Oklahoma State was playing in a Big 12  conference championship game, but because the last game of their regular season happened to be scheduled a week earlier than Oklahoma State's last game.

a game is a game Jimmy

by beating OU in it's last game , osu became the big 12 champion

by beating Tenn in the SEC championship game , LSU became the sec championship team

why do you feel that it's ok for LSU to jump UGA , who was idle that week , when the week before LSU lost to Arkansas and the resullting BCS poll places them behind UGA. Why was is it ok for LSU to play a win a game and jump and idle team and why is it not ok this year for OSU to play and win a game and not jump an idle Stamford , you can't have it both ways

Both wins , in the last week resulted in the team winning the confernence championship.

You know what happened, the voters , figured LSU was out of it when they lost the game to Arkansas. So they voted correctly by placing a red hot UGA team ahead of an LSU team that lost 2 games after UGA had lost there 2. They choose the hotter team at the time. Nobody after the polls came out after the Ark game said , oh LSU should be ahead of UGA , nope , not a word was said. UGA was the hotter team and the time and that is what usually happens.

Then in the last week 2 teams lost , one was West Va and the other once was i think in the Big 12 game , may have been OU , not sure . LSU leapfrogs both those teams and an idle UGA off it's win and goes to the BCS game.

If LSU can jump UGA Jimmy , OSU can jump Stamford it's that simple

He didn't see that because he's in full defensive mode about how Okl.St shouldn't be ranked ahead of Stanford. I might be wrong but I believe that's everything to do with Ala. On the other hand, it's what it is and people should just give it a rest. If Ala does beat LSU, I hope it's by a TD or more.