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    KineProfessor
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 6:07 PM ET #1076

    Miracle cover for New Mexico makes the OU meltdown feel better (thought I posted it earlier, might not have sorry or your welcome if you would have tailed )
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    Miracle cover for New Mexico makes the OU meltdown feel better (thought I posted it earlier, might not have sorry or your welcome if you would have tailed )
     
    YACKER
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 6:09 PM ET #1077

    Gordon's first career 3 for the cover!
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    Gordon's first career 3 for the cover!
     
    KineProfessor
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 6:10 PM ET #1078

    Looks like Marist wants to punish me for not continue to milk them dry - hope you had bigger stones than me and keep riding them like Secretariat (unless of course they totally melt down in the 2nd half)

    Leaving in 30 minutes for UTSA - I'll try to nail down the rest of the card (although we have excellent connectivity at the game) so still might make a play or two
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    Looks like Marist wants to punish me for not continue to milk them dry - hope you had bigger stones than me and keep riding them like Secretariat (unless of course they totally melt down in the 2nd half)

    Leaving in 30 minutes for UTSA - I'll try to nail down the rest of the card (although we have excellent connectivity at the game) so still might make a play or two
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 6:11 PM ET #1079

    Waaw, i will take it.

    Thanks for the picks Professor.
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    Waaw, i will take it.

    Thanks for the picks Professor.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 6:32 PM ET #1080

    nice day kp - thoughts on gonzaga thnx -clem1
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    nice day kp - thoughts on gonzaga thnx -clem1
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 6:45 PM ET #1081

    Quote Originally Posted by clem1:

    nice day kp - thoughts on gonzaga thnx -clem1


    prefer the over

    Locked in: Dartmouth +9.5

    Rest of the card I'm looking at:
    irvine +4, pacific +8.5, la tech +10, wyoming +10.5, san fran +8, Manhattan -6.5 (hoping for 6)

    Decide for yourself - I'll try to post when I lock in but no promises - good luck to all
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    Quote Originally Posted by clem1:

    nice day kp - thoughts on gonzaga thnx -clem1


    prefer the over

    Locked in: Dartmouth +9.5

    Rest of the card I'm looking at:
    irvine +4, pacific +8.5, la tech +10, wyoming +10.5, san fran +8, Manhattan -6.5 (hoping for 6)

    Decide for yourself - I'll try to post when I lock in but no promises - good luck to all
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 6:53 PM ET #1082

     

    Some interesting totals data on that Gonzaga game:

    Brigham Young

    • Under is 4-0 in Cougars last 4 overall.
    • Under is 4-0 in Cougars last 4 vs. West Coast.
    • Under is 4-1 in Cougars last 5 games following a ATS loss.
    • Under is 4-1 in Cougars last 5 neutral site games.
    • Under is 4-1 in Cougars last 5 Saturday games.
    • Under is 8-2 in Cougars last 10 games following a S.U. win.
    Gonzaga
    • Under is 7-2 in Bulldogs last 9 games following a SU win of more than 20 points.
    • Under is 19-6-2 in Bulldogs last 27 Saturday games.
    • Under is 20-7 in Bulldogs last 27 vs. West Coast.
    • Under is 21-8-1 in Bulldogs last 30 games vs. a team with a winning % above .600.
    • Under is 10-4 in Bulldogs last 14 neutral site games.
    • Under is 39-17-1 in Bulldogs last 57 overall.
    • Under is 36-16-1 in Bulldogs last 53 games following a S.U. win.
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    Some interesting totals data on that Gonzaga game:

    Brigham Young

    • Under is 4-0 in Cougars last 4 overall.
    • Under is 4-0 in Cougars last 4 vs. West Coast.
    • Under is 4-1 in Cougars last 5 games following a ATS loss.
    • Under is 4-1 in Cougars last 5 neutral site games.
    • Under is 4-1 in Cougars last 5 Saturday games.
    • Under is 8-2 in Cougars last 10 games following a S.U. win.
    Gonzaga
    • Under is 7-2 in Bulldogs last 9 games following a SU win of more than 20 points.
    • Under is 19-6-2 in Bulldogs last 27 Saturday games.
    • Under is 20-7 in Bulldogs last 27 vs. West Coast.
    • Under is 21-8-1 in Bulldogs last 30 games vs. a team with a winning % above .600.
    • Under is 10-4 in Bulldogs last 14 neutral site games.
    • Under is 39-17-1 in Bulldogs last 57 overall.
    • Under is 36-16-1 in Bulldogs last 53 games following a S.U. win.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 7:35 PM ET #1083

    is anyone playing irvine

     

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    is anyone playing irvine

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 7:45 PM ET #1084

    KP,  just came across your system and this thread a couple days ago.  Have been tailing from afar, and profitably so.  Kudos to you for all your hard work, man.  Dartmouth looking good early.  GL to ya.

     

     

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    KP,  just came across your system and this thread a couple days ago.  Have been tailing from afar, and profitably so.  Kudos to you for all your hard work, man.  Dartmouth looking good early.  GL to ya.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 8:12 PM ET #1085

    Quote Originally Posted by terrick:

     

    Some interesting totals data on that Gonzaga game:

    Brigham Young

    • Under is 4-0 in Cougars last 4 overall.
    • Under is 4-0 in Cougars last 4 vs. West Coast.
    • Under is 4-1 in Cougars last 5 games following a ATS loss.
    • Under is 4-1 in Cougars last 5 neutral site games.
    • Under is 4-1 in Cougars last 5 Saturday games.
    • Under is 8-2 in Cougars last 10 games following a S.U. win.
    Gonzaga
    • Under is 7-2 in Bulldogs last 9 games following a SU win of more than 20 points.
    • Under is 19-6-2 in Bulldogs last 27 Saturday games.
    • Under is 20-7 in Bulldogs last 27 vs. West Coast.
    • Under is 21-8-1 in Bulldogs last 30 games vs. a team with a winning % above .600.
    • Under is 10-4 in Bulldogs last 14 neutral site games.
    • Under is 39-17-1 in Bulldogs last 57 overall.
    • Under is 36-16-1 in Bulldogs last 53 games following a S.U. win.

    So you're thinking about the unders...
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    Quote Originally Posted by terrick:

     

    Some interesting totals data on that Gonzaga game:

    Brigham Young

    • Under is 4-0 in Cougars last 4 overall.
    • Under is 4-0 in Cougars last 4 vs. West Coast.
    • Under is 4-1 in Cougars last 5 games following a ATS loss.
    • Under is 4-1 in Cougars last 5 neutral site games.
    • Under is 4-1 in Cougars last 5 Saturday games.
    • Under is 8-2 in Cougars last 10 games following a S.U. win.
    Gonzaga
    • Under is 7-2 in Bulldogs last 9 games following a SU win of more than 20 points.
    • Under is 19-6-2 in Bulldogs last 27 Saturday games.
    • Under is 20-7 in Bulldogs last 27 vs. West Coast.
    • Under is 21-8-1 in Bulldogs last 30 games vs. a team with a winning % above .600.
    • Under is 10-4 in Bulldogs last 14 neutral site games.
    • Under is 39-17-1 in Bulldogs last 57 overall.
    • Under is 36-16-1 in Bulldogs last 53 games following a S.U. win.

    So you're thinking about the unders...
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 9:48 PM ET #1086

    2-0 so far in system play with pacific pending
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    2-0 so far in system play with pacific pending
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 10:49 PM ET #1087

    Back from an incredible UTSA game - shot the lights out wow! 

    In case you care, the lines I got for the night games were:
    Dartmouth +9.5, Irvine +4, San Fran +8, Wyoming +10.5, Louisiana Tech +10, Pacific +8.5, Manhattan -6.5, Utah St ML




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    Back from an incredible UTSA game - shot the lights out wow! 

    In case you care, the lines I got for the night games were:
    Dartmouth +9.5, Irvine +4, San Fran +8, Wyoming +10.5, Louisiana Tech +10, Pacific +8.5, Manhattan -6.5, Utah St ML




     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 11:08 PM ET #1088

    Sweatin the free throws at the end of SF game.
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    Sweatin the free throws at the end of SF game.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 11:17 PM ET #1089

    clutch 3 - 6 seconds and a little breathing room - now hoping to avoid OT
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    clutch 3 - 6 seconds and a little breathing room - now hoping to avoid OT
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2012 - 11:24 PM ET #1090

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickalicious:

    clutch 3 - 6 seconds and a little breathing room - now hoping to avoid OT




    Got some work to do on the others
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mickalicious:

    clutch 3 - 6 seconds and a little breathing room - now hoping to avoid OT




    Got some work to do on the others
     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2012 - 12:45 AM ET #1091

    System 2-1; Overall 14-10

    I'll update this thread tomorrow on my leans when all the lines are out with the conference tourney games
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    System 2-1; Overall 14-10

    I'll update this thread tomorrow on my leans when all the lines are out with the conference tourney games
     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2012 - 6:02 AM ET #1092

    good job
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    good job
     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2012 - 8:07 AM ET #1093

    mickalicious what are your picks for TODAY
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    mickalicious what are your picks for TODAY
     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2012 - 8:22 AM ET #1094

    Quote Originally Posted by morri1962:

    mickalicious what are your picks for TODAY
    remember kp suggested he post his pics on his own thread - but willing to discuss any games here  - clem1
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    Quote Originally Posted by morri1962:

    mickalicious what are your picks for TODAY
    remember kp suggested he post his pics on his own thread - but willing to discuss any games here  - clem1
     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2012 - 8:32 AM ET #1095

    ALERT  ALERT ALERT

    14-10 is a good day considering the numerous amount of plays but I think most of us will agree that with so many plays being made, more often than not, we will see just about that average from a good capper or worse! 

      14/24 = 58% 

    Food for thought!  It only makes sense to me to throw this out there for everyone to digest!  The system has been proven over the past few yrs and is doing fine this year so why play so many games and end up with a worse record than the system plays which are so few and predetermined for us?

     2/3 = 67%

    Don't look a gift horse in the mouth unless you are an action junkie.  I know most of us who are seasoned gamblers with many years of experience will agree that the odds and probability are not in our favor when we play an extensive amount of games! 

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Let me explain it another way when we consider risk and reward!

    Wins: 14 x 100 = 1400

    Losses:  10 x 110 (if no totals lose at 20%) = 1100

    Total Amount Risked: 24 x 110 = 2640 

    Total Amount Earned: 1400 - 1100 = 300

     The above example is a very profitable day but you risked 2640 to yield about an 11% return of 300.  (300/2640=11%)

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    Now let's do it the conservative way, which is still a gamble, but with the probabilty of a better reward and much less risk!

    Wins:  2 x 300 = 600

    Losses: 1 x 330 = 330

    Total Amount Risked: 3 x 330 = 990

    Total Amount Earned: 600 - 330 = 270

     The last example also yielded a nice profit, but with much less risk and also with much more reward!  We only risked 990 to yield a 27% return of 270.  (270/990=27%)

    We only risked 990 vs 2640 which is only 38% or risking 62% less possible loss and we were rewarded an additional 16% more profit. (990/2640=38% and 27-11=16%)

    In summary, we risked 62% less money and earned 16% more profit!

    Food for thought!  Chew it up and spit it out?  or Chew it up and digest it?

    This is just my opinion and I hope it is clear and I think have done the math correctly. 

    KP great work and congratulations on a well played card yesterday!  Thanks again!

    FUPM

     

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    ALERT  ALERT ALERT

    14-10 is a good day considering the numerous amount of plays but I think most of us will agree that with so many plays being made, more often than not, we will see just about that average from a good capper or worse! 

      14/24 = 58% 

    Food for thought!  It only makes sense to me to throw this out there for everyone to digest!  The system has been proven over the past few yrs and is doing fine this year so why play so many games and end up with a worse record than the system plays which are so few and predetermined for us?

     2/3 = 67%

    Don't look a gift horse in the mouth unless you are an action junkie.  I know most of us who are seasoned gamblers with many years of experience will agree that the odds and probability are not in our favor when we play an extensive amount of games! 

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Let me explain it another way when we consider risk and reward!

    Wins: 14 x 100 = 1400

    Losses:  10 x 110 (if no totals lose at 20%) = 1100

    Total Amount Risked: 24 x 110 = 2640 

    Total Amount Earned: 1400 - 1100 = 300

     The above example is a very profitable day but you risked 2640 to yield about an 11% return of 300.  (300/2640=11%)

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Now let's do it the conservative way, which is still a gamble, but with the probabilty of a better reward and much less risk!

    Wins:  2 x 300 = 600

    Losses: 1 x 330 = 330

    Total Amount Risked: 3 x 330 = 990

    Total Amount Earned: 600 - 330 = 270

     The last example also yielded a nice profit, but with much less risk and also with much more reward!  We only risked 990 to yield a 27% return of 270.  (270/990=27%)

    We only risked 990 vs 2640 which is only 38% or risking 62% less possible loss and we were rewarded an additional 16% more profit. (990/2640=38% and 27-11=16%)

    In summary, we risked 62% less money and earned 16% more profit!

    Food for thought!  Chew it up and spit it out?  or Chew it up and digest it?

    This is just my opinion and I hope it is clear and I think have done the math correctly. 

    KP great work and congratulations on a well played card yesterday!  Thanks again!

    FUPM

     

     
    bschenk21
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2012 - 8:35 AM ET #1096

    very well put  to KP

     

    Reply

    very well put  to KP

     

     
    BJaRz
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2012 - 8:56 AM ET #1097

    Quote Originally Posted by fupm:

    ALERT  ALERT ALERT

    14-10 is a good day considering the numerous amount of plays but I think most of us will agree that with so many plays being made, more often than not, we will see just about that average from a good capper or worse! 

      14/24 = 58% 

    Food for thought!  It only makes sense to me to throw this out there for everyone to digest!  The system has been proven over the past few yrs and is doing fine this year so why play so many games and end up with a worse record than the system plays which are so few and predetermined for us?

     2/3 = 67%

    Don't look a gift horse in the mouth unless you are an action junkie.  I know most of us who are seasoned gamblers with many years of experience will agree that the odds and probability are not in our favor when we play an extensive amount of games! 

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Let me explain it another way when we consider risk and reward!

    Wins: 14 x 100 = 1400

    Losses:  10 x 110 (if no totals lose at 20%) = 1100

    Total Amount Risked: 24 x 110 = 2640 

    Total Amount Earned: 1400 - 1100 = 300

     The above example is a very profitable day but you risked 2640 to yield about an 11% return of 300.  (300/2640=11%)

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Now let's do it the conservative way, which is still a gamble, but with the probabilty of a better reward and much less risk!

    Wins:  2 x 300 = 600

    Losses: 1 x 330 = 330

    Total Amount Risked: 3 x 330 = 990

    Total Amount Earned: 600 - 330 = 270

     The last example also yielded a nice profit, but with much less risk and also with much more reward!  We only risked 990 to yield a 27% return of 270.  (270/990=27%)

    We only risked 990 vs 2640 which is only 38% or risking 62% less possible loss and we were rewarded an additional 16% more profit. (990/2640=38% and 27-11=16%)

    In summary, we risked 62% less money and earned 16% more profit!

    Food for thought!  Chew it up and spit it out?  or Chew it up and digest it?

    This is just my opinion and I hope it is clear and I think have done the math correctly. 

    KP great work and congratulations on a well played card yesterday!  Thanks again!

    FUPM

     


    14-10 is the overall record for the year-to-date system, not for the day. He wasn't 14-10 Saturday.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by fupm:

    ALERT  ALERT ALERT

    14-10 is a good day considering the numerous amount of plays but I think most of us will agree that with so many plays being made, more often than not, we will see just about that average from a good capper or worse! 

      14/24 = 58% 

    Food for thought!  It only makes sense to me to throw this out there for everyone to digest!  The system has been proven over the past few yrs and is doing fine this year so why play so many games and end up with a worse record than the system plays which are so few and predetermined for us?

     2/3 = 67%

    Don't look a gift horse in the mouth unless you are an action junkie.  I know most of us who are seasoned gamblers with many years of experience will agree that the odds and probability are not in our favor when we play an extensive amount of games! 

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Let me explain it another way when we consider risk and reward!

    Wins: 14 x 100 = 1400

    Losses:  10 x 110 (if no totals lose at 20%) = 1100

    Total Amount Risked: 24 x 110 = 2640 

    Total Amount Earned: 1400 - 1100 = 300

     The above example is a very profitable day but you risked 2640 to yield about an 11% return of 300.  (300/2640=11%)

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Now let's do it the conservative way, which is still a gamble, but with the probabilty of a better reward and much less risk!

    Wins:  2 x 300 = 600

    Losses: 1 x 330 = 330

    Total Amount Risked: 3 x 330 = 990

    Total Amount Earned: 600 - 330 = 270

     The last example also yielded a nice profit, but with much less risk and also with much more reward!  We only risked 990 to yield a 27% return of 270.  (270/990=27%)

    We only risked 990 vs 2640 which is only 38% or risking 62% less possible loss and we were rewarded an additional 16% more profit. (990/2640=38% and 27-11=16%)

    In summary, we risked 62% less money and earned 16% more profit!

    Food for thought!  Chew it up and spit it out?  or Chew it up and digest it?

    This is just my opinion and I hope it is clear and I think have done the math correctly. 

    KP great work and congratulations on a well played card yesterday!  Thanks again!

    FUPM

     


    14-10 is the overall record for the year-to-date system, not for the day. He wasn't 14-10 Saturday.
     
    ratbastard
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2012 - 8:57 AM ET #1098

    Quote Originally Posted by fupm:

    ALERT  ALERT ALERT

    14-10 is a good day considering the numerous amount of plays but I think most of us will agree that with so many plays being made, more often than not, we will see just about that average from a good capper or worse! 

      14/24 = 58% 

    Food for thought!  It only makes sense to me to throw this out there for everyone to digest!  The system has been proven over the past few yrs and is doing fine this year so why play so many games and end up with a worse record than the system plays which are so few and predetermined for us?

     2/3 = 67%

    Don't look a gift horse in the mouth unless you are an action junkie.  I know most of us who are seasoned gamblers with many years of experience will agree that the odds and probability are not in our favor when we play an extensive amount of games! 

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Let me explain it another way when we consider risk and reward!

    Wins: 14 x 100 = 1400

    Losses:  10 x 110 (if no totals lose at 20%) = 1100

    Total Amount Risked: 24 x 110 = 2640 

    Total Amount Earned: 1400 - 1100 = 300

     The above example is a very profitable day but you risked 2640 to yield about an 11% return of 300.  (300/2640=11%)

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Now let's do it the conservative way, which is still a gamble, but with the probabilty of a better reward and much less risk!

    Wins:  2 x 300 = 600

    Losses: 1 x 330 = 330

    Total Amount Risked: 3 x 330 = 990

    Total Amount Earned: 600 - 330 = 270

     The last example also yielded a nice profit, but with much less risk and also with much more reward!  We only risked 990 to yield a 27% return of 270.  (270/990=27%)

    We only risked 990 vs 2640 which is only 38% or risking 62% less possible loss and we were rewarded an additional 16% more profit. (990/2640=38% and 27-11=16%)

    In summary, we risked 62% less money and earned 16% more profit!

    Food for thought!  Chew it up and spit it out?  or Chew it up and digest it?

    This is just my opinion and I hope it is clear and I think have done the math correctly. 

    KP great work and congratulations on a well played card yesterday!  Thanks again!

    FUPM

     




    Uhh..I think he is saying the system is 14-10. Not 14-10 on the day!
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by fupm:

    ALERT  ALERT ALERT

    14-10 is a good day considering the numerous amount of plays but I think most of us will agree that with so many plays being made, more often than not, we will see just about that average from a good capper or worse! 

      14/24 = 58% 

    Food for thought!  It only makes sense to me to throw this out there for everyone to digest!  The system has been proven over the past few yrs and is doing fine this year so why play so many games and end up with a worse record than the system plays which are so few and predetermined for us?

     2/3 = 67%

    Don't look a gift horse in the mouth unless you are an action junkie.  I know most of us who are seasoned gamblers with many years of experience will agree that the odds and probability are not in our favor when we play an extensive amount of games! 

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Let me explain it another way when we consider risk and reward!

    Wins: 14 x 100 = 1400

    Losses:  10 x 110 (if no totals lose at 20%) = 1100

    Total Amount Risked: 24 x 110 = 2640 

    Total Amount Earned: 1400 - 1100 = 300

     The above example is a very profitable day but you risked 2640 to yield about an 11% return of 300.  (300/2640=11%)

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Now let's do it the conservative way, which is still a gamble, but with the probabilty of a better reward and much less risk!

    Wins:  2 x 300 = 600

    Losses: 1 x 330 = 330

    Total Amount Risked: 3 x 330 = 990

    Total Amount Earned: 600 - 330 = 270

     The last example also yielded a nice profit, but with much less risk and also with much more reward!  We only risked 990 to yield a 27% return of 270.  (270/990=27%)

    We only risked 990 vs 2640 which is only 38% or risking 62% less possible loss and we were rewarded an additional 16% more profit. (990/2640=38% and 27-11=16%)

    In summary, we risked 62% less money and earned 16% more profit!

    Food for thought!  Chew it up and spit it out?  or Chew it up and digest it?

    This is just my opinion and I hope it is clear and I think have done the math correctly. 

    KP great work and congratulations on a well played card yesterday!  Thanks again!

    FUPM

     




    Uhh..I think he is saying the system is 14-10. Not 14-10 on the day!
     
    Mickalicious
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2012 - 9:02 AM ET #1099

    Quote Originally Posted by clem1:

    remember kp suggested he post his pics on his own thread - but willing to discuss any games here  - clem1

    Clem is correct and out of respect for Kine and so as not to muddy the thread, I'm just an eager and appreciative participant here. KPs info actually has substance behind it and I think the proof is in how many close wins we've been on the right side of, not the blow outs...think I'm learning that about the system.

    Saw your friend request and will connect. Remember that I'm just a guy on a hot streak trying to keep it going. 26-15 (+57U) yesterday but that's way too much action. Started 14-4 so you can see I got careless after running on house money. Didn't even manage to land the last system play as i waited to long for a number.

    I think KP had 8-10 plays yesterday...on purpose. That's where I'm trying to get to by learning from the info.

    Here's to a good Sunday!
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by clem1:

    remember kp suggested he post his pics on his own thread - but willing to discuss any games here  - clem1

    Clem is correct and out of respect for Kine and so as not to muddy the thread, I'm just an eager and appreciative participant here. KPs info actually has substance behind it and I think the proof is in how many close wins we've been on the right side of, not the blow outs...think I'm learning that about the system.

    Saw your friend request and will connect. Remember that I'm just a guy on a hot streak trying to keep it going. 26-15 (+57U) yesterday but that's way too much action. Started 14-4 so you can see I got careless after running on house money. Didn't even manage to land the last system play as i waited to long for a number.

    I think KP had 8-10 plays yesterday...on purpose. That's where I'm trying to get to by learning from the info.

    Here's to a good Sunday!
     
     
    KineProfessor
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2012 - 10:16 AM ET #1100

    Quote Originally Posted by fupm:

    ALERT  ALERT ALERT

    14-10 is a good day considering the numerous amount of plays but I think most of us will agree that with so many plays being made, more often than not, we will see just about that average from a good capper or worse! 

      14/24 = 58% 

    Food for thought!  It only makes sense to me to throw this out there for everyone to digest!  The system has been proven over the past few yrs and is doing fine this year so why play so many games and end up with a worse record than the system plays which are so few and predetermined for us?

     2/3 = 67%

    Don't look a gift horse in the mouth unless you are an action junkie.  I know most of us who are seasoned gamblers with many years of experience will agree that the odds and probability are not in our favor when we play an extensive amount of games! 

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Let me explain it another way when we consider risk and reward!

    Wins: 14 x 100 = 1400

    Losses:  10 x 110 (if no totals lose at 20%) = 1100

    Total Amount Risked: 24 x 110 = 2640 

    Total Amount Earned: 1400 - 1100 = 300

     The above example is a very profitable day but you risked 2640 to yield about an 11% return of 300.  (300/2640=11%)

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Now let's do it the conservative way, which is still a gamble, but with the probabilty of a better reward and much less risk!

    Wins:  2 x 300 = 600

    Losses: 1 x 330 = 330

    Total Amount Risked: 3 x 330 = 990

    Total Amount Earned: 600 - 330 = 270

     The last example also yielded a nice profit, but with much less risk and also with much more reward!  We only risked 990 to yield a 27% return of 270.  (270/990=27%)

    We only risked 990 vs 2640 which is only 38% or risking 62% less possible loss and we were rewarded an additional 16% more profit. (990/2640=38% and 27-11=16%)

    In summary, we risked 62% less money and earned 16% more profit!

    Food for thought!  Chew it up and spit it out?  or Chew it up and digest it?

    This is just my opinion and I hope it is clear and I think have done the math correctly. 

    KP great work and congratulations on a well played card yesterday!  Thanks again!

    FUPM

     






    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by fupm:

    ALERT  ALERT ALERT

    14-10 is a good day considering the numerous amount of plays but I think most of us will agree that with so many plays being made, more often than not, we will see just about that average from a good capper or worse! 

      14/24 = 58% 

    Food for thought!  It only makes sense to me to throw this out there for everyone to digest!  The system has been proven over the past few yrs and is doing fine this year so why play so many games and end up with a worse record than the system plays which are so few and predetermined for us?

     2/3 = 67%

    Don't look a gift horse in the mouth unless you are an action junkie.  I know most of us who are seasoned gamblers with many years of experience will agree that the odds and probability are not in our favor when we play an extensive amount of games! 

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Let me explain it another way when we consider risk and reward!

    Wins: 14 x 100 = 1400

    Losses:  10 x 110 (if no totals lose at 20%) = 1100

    Total Amount Risked: 24 x 110 = 2640 

    Total Amount Earned: 1400 - 1100 = 300

     The above example is a very profitable day but you risked 2640 to yield about an 11% return of 300.  (300/2640=11%)

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Now let's do it the conservative way, which is still a gamble, but with the probabilty of a better reward and much less risk!

    Wins:  2 x 300 = 600

    Losses: 1 x 330 = 330

    Total Amount Risked: 3 x 330 = 990

    Total Amount Earned: 600 - 330 = 270

     The last example also yielded a nice profit, but with much less risk and also with much more reward!  We only risked 990 to yield a 27% return of 270.  (270/990=27%)

    We only risked 990 vs 2640 which is only 38% or risking 62% less possible loss and we were rewarded an additional 16% more profit. (990/2640=38% and 27-11=16%)

    In summary, we risked 62% less money and earned 16% more profit!

    Food for thought!  Chew it up and spit it out?  or Chew it up and digest it?

    This is just my opinion and I hope it is clear and I think have done the math correctly. 

    KP great work and congratulations on a well played card yesterday!  Thanks again!

    FUPM

     






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