Final Sep 16
CHW 3 +135 o7.0
CLE 6 -160 u7.0
Final (10) Sep 16
SF 6 +144 o8.0
STL 5 -157 u8.0
Final (13) Sep 16
NYY 4 -174 o8.5
MIN 5 +160 u8.5
Final Sep 16
DET 1 +115 o8.0
TOR 5 -125 u8.0
Final Sep 16
ATH 3 +159 o8.0
TB 4 -174 u8.0
Final Sep 16
LAD 2 -213 o8.0
CIN 6 +193 u8.0
Final Sep 16
MIL 5 -127 o7.5
PIT 4 +118 u7.5
Final Sep 16
PHI 3 -183 o9.0
WAS 0 +167 u9.0
Final Sep 16
BAL 7 -102 o9.0
NYM 1 -116 u9.0
Final Sep 16
ATL 4 +145 o7.5
CHC 8 -158 u7.5
Final Sep 16
BOS 3 -108 o8.0
TEX 7 +100 u8.0
Final Sep 16
KC 5 +147 o9.0
HOU 2 -161 u9.0
Final Sep 16
SD 9 -155 o10.5
COL 3 +143 u10.5
Final Sep 16
SEA 7 -125 o8.0
LAA 2 +115 u8.0
Final Sep 16
MIA 4 +124 o9.0
AZ 3 -135 u9.0

Chicago vs Kansas City   Matchups, Results & Stats

CHW vs KCRecords

CHW vs KCRecords

Team Table
Team W/L H/A $ RF RA Tot O/U
Chi. White Sox logo CHW 75-68 32-40 1360 4.76 4.41 9.17 81-62
Kansas City logo KC 64-81 38-35 -1551 4.28 4.90 9.18 67-76

CHW vs KCHead To Head

Win / Loss
7-3
Over / Under
6-4-0
Head-To-Head
Date Home Result ML O/U CHW Starter (IP) KC Starter (IP)
Jun 28, '26 CHW Kansas City logo 5 - 4 KC +116 o8.5 A. Kay (3.2) L. Avila (4.0)
Jun 27, '26 CHW Chicago logo 2 - 1 CHW -126 u8.0 D. Martin (5.1) M. Wacha (7.2)
Jun 26, '26 CHW Chicago logo 22 - 1 CHW -130 o8.5 D. Sandlin (6.0) S. Cruz (1.1)
May 14, '26 CHW Chicago logo 6 - 2 CHW +118 o7.5 A. Kay (6.0) K. Bubic (4.0)
May 13, '26 CHW Chicago logo 6 - 5 CHW -102 o8.0 N. Schultz (4.1) S. Lugo (5.0)
May 12, '26 CHW Chicago logo 6 - 5 CHW -105 o9.0 E. Fedde (5.0) S. Kolek (4.2)
Apr 12, '26 KC Chicago logo 6 - 5 CHW +152 o8.5 G. Taylor (2.0) N. Cameron (5.1)
Apr 11, '26 KC Kansas City logo 2 - 0 KC -190 u9.0 E. Fedde (5.0) M. Wacha (8.0)
Apr 10, '26 KC Kansas City logo 2 - 0 KC -180 u7.5 D. Martin (7.0) K. Bubic (7.0)
Apr 09, '26 KC Chicago logo 2 - 0 CHW +150 u9.0 A. Kay (5.2) S. Lugo (6.1)

Chi. White Sox logo Chicago Record Last 10

Win / Loss
3-7-0
Over / Under
7-3-0
ML
-$389
Team - Last 10
Date vs Result ML O/U Starter (IP) Opp Starter (IP)
Sep 15, '26 @ Cleveland logo CLE L 6 - 7 L +132 o9.0 C. Murphy (0.2) F. Griffin (4.0)
Sep 14, '26 @ Cleveland logo CLE W 7 - 3 W +152 o7.0 S. Newcomb (1.0) G. Williams (5.0)
Sep 13, '26 @ St. Louis logo STL L 1 - 3 L -120 u8.5 D. Sandlin (5.2) M. McGreevy (6.0)
Sep 12, '26 @ St. Louis logo STL W 6 - 5 W -111 o8.5 S. Newcomb (1.1) K. Leahy (3.0)
Sep 11, '26 @ St. Louis logo STL L 3 - 7 L -106 o7.5 A. Kay (4.0) M. Liberatore (4.1)
Sep 10, '26 Pittsburgh logo PIT L 0 - 2 L -115 u7.5 H. Smith (2.0) J. Jones (7.0)
Sep 09, '26 Pittsburgh logo PIT L 2 - 4 L -131 u9.0 D. Martin (5.0) L. Bachar (1.2)
Sep 08, '26 Pittsburgh logo PIT L 3 - 9 L -144 o8.5 S. Burke (1.1) B. Chandler (6.0)
Sep 06, '26 Minnesota logo MIN W 10 - 1 W -144 o8.5 B. Hudson (1.2) B. Ober (4.1)
Sep 05, '26 Minnesota logo MIN L 4 - 6 L -126 o8.0 A. Kay (4.1) T. Bradley (5.0)

Chicago Next 3 Games

Next 3 Games
Date vs Scheduled Starter Last vs ML O/U
Sep 17, '26 Detroit logo DET E. Fedde (R) W 7-5 W +104 o7.5
Sep 18, '26 Detroit logo DET D. Sandlin (R) W 7-5 W +104 o7.5
Sep 19, '26 Detroit logo DET TBD W 7-5 W +104 o7.5

Kansas City logo Kansas City Record Last 10

Win / Loss
3-7-0
Over / Under
1-9-0
ML
-$321
Team - Last 10
Date vs Result ML O/U Starter (IP) Opp Starter (IP)
Sep 15, '26 @ Houston logo HOU L 2 - 4 L +136 u8.0 M. Wacha (6.0) H. Brown (5.0)
Sep 13, '26 @ Boston logo BOS L 1 - 4 L +158 u7.5 N. Cameron (6.0) P. Tolle (6.0)
Sep 12, '26 @ Boston logo BOS L 1 - 5 L +183 u8.5 R. Dobnak (5.2) R. Suarez (7.0)
Sep 11, '26 @ Boston logo BOS W 3 - 2 W +177 u8.5 S. Lugo (5.0) S. Gray (6.0)
Sep 09, '26 Arizona logo AZ W 5 - 2 W +100 u8.5 D. Lynch IV (5.0) Z. Gallen (3.1)
Sep 08, '26 Arizona logo AZ L 3 - 5 L -114 u9.0 M. Wacha (6.0) C. Burnes (3.0)
Sep 07, '26 Arizona logo AZ L 4 - 5 L -112 u9.5 N. Cameron (6.0) D. Law (2.0)
Sep 06, '26 Toronto logo TOR W 6 - 1 W +102 u9.5 R. Dobnak (6.0) S. Arrighetti (4.2)
Sep 05, '26 Toronto logo TOR L 3 - 4 L -108 u9.5 S. Lugo (5.0) M. Scherzer (5.2)
Sep 04, '26 Toronto logo TOR L 2 - 9 L -119 o10.0 D. Lynch IV (5.0) J. Taillon (2.0)

Kansas City Next 3 Games

Next 3 Games
Date vs Scheduled Starter Last vs ML O/U
Sep 17, '26 @ Houston logo HOU S. Lugo (R) W 5-2 W +140 u9.0
Sep 18, '26 @ Pittsburgh logo PIT R. Dobnak (R) W 4-3 L -190 u8.5
Sep 19, '26 @ Pittsburgh logo PIT N. Cameron (L) W 4-3 L -190 u8.5

Series Stats

Remaining Games - Series CHW @ KC
Date CHW Starter KC Starter
Wed, Sep 23 19:40 ET -- --
Thu, Sep 24 14:10 ET -- --

Series Game Records

Chi. White Sox - series game records
Overall After Win After Loss
Game 1 26-21 10-16 16-5
Game 2 20-26 12-14 8-12
Game 3 25-20 10-9 15-11
Game 4 4-1 3-0 1-1
Kansas City - series game records
Overall After Win After Loss
Game 1 21-26 11-8 10-18
Game 2 20-26 13-8 7-18
Game 3 20-26 8-12 12-14
Game 4 3-3 3-1 0-2

Next 3 Series

Chi. White Sox
Date vs W-L Home/Away
Wed, Sep 23 - Thu, Sep 24 @ KC logo KC 66-85 39-36 H
Fri, Sep 25 - Sun, Sep 27 vs COL logo COL 56-95 25-53 A
Kansas City
Date vs W-L Home/Away
Wed, Sep 23 - Thu, Sep 24 vs CHW logo CHW 77-74 34-43 A
Fri, Sep 25 - Sun, Sep 27 vs CLE logo CLE 77-75 40-35 A

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CHW vs KCInjury report

Chicago logoChicago's Injuries

Player POS Status Date Note
C. Montgomery SS Day To Day - Wrist( Sep 15, '26) Sep 15, '26
Montgomery left Wednesday's (Sep. 16) game versus the Guardians due to wrist contusion.
H. Brazoban RP Fifteen Day IL - Lat( Aug 24, '26) Aug 24, '26
The Chicago White Sox placed RHP Huascar Brazobán on the 15-day injured list due to left lat strain.
J. Bart C Ten Day IL - Hand( Aug 06, '26) Aug 06, '26
The Chicago White Sox placed C Joey Bart on the 10-day injured list with a fifth metacarpal fracture in his left hand.
J. Leasure RP Sixty Day IL - Flexor( May 29, '26) May 29, '26
The Chicago White Sox transferred RHP Jordan Leasure to the 60-day injured list with a right flexor strain.
T. Murray LF Sixty Day IL - Shoulder( May 03, '26) May 03, '26
The Chicago White Sox transferred INF Tanner Murray to the 60-day injured list with a left shoulder dislocation and fracture.
P. Berroa RP Sixty Day IL - Elbow( Apr 17, '26) Apr 17, '26
The Chicago White Sox transferred RHP Prelander Berroa to the 60-day injured list as he recovers from Tommy John surgery.
B. Baldwin LF Sixty Day IL - Elbow( Apr 07, '26) Apr 07, '26
The Chicago White Sox transferred OF Brooks Baldwin from the 10-day injured list to the 60-day injured list with a right elbow sprain.
M. Vasil RP Sixty Day IL - Elbow( Apr 06, '26) Apr 06, '26
The Chicago White Sox transferred RHP Mike Vasil from the 15-day injured list to the 60-day injured list as he recovers from Tommy John surgery.
K. Bush SP Sixty Day IL - Elbow( Feb 09, '26) Feb 09, '26
The Chicago White Sox placed LHP Ky Bush on the 60-day injured list due to elbow problems following his Tommy John surgery.

Chicago Starters Last Game

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Kansas City's Injuries

Player POS Status Date Note
T. Gonsolin SP Fifteen Day IL - Elbow( Aug 12, '26) Aug 12, '26
The Kansas City Royals placed RHP Tony Gonsolin on the 15-day injured list.
L. Avila SP Sixty Day IL - Forearm( Aug 05, '26) Aug 05, '26
The Kansas City Royals transferred RHP Luinder Avila from the 15-day injured list to the 60-day injured list due to right forearm tightness.
B. Way RP Fifteen Day IL - Back( Jul 27, '26) Jul 27, '26
The Kansas City Royals placed RHP Beck Way on the 15-day injured list due to low back spasm tightness.
S. Kolek SP Sixty Day IL - Flexor( Jul 21, '26) Jul 21, '26
The Kansas City Royals transferred RHP Stephen Kolek from the 15-day injured list to the 60-day injured list with a right flexor strain.
N. Mears RP Sixty Day IL - Shoulder( Jul 13, '26) Jul 13, '26
The Kansas City Royals transferred RHP Nick Mears from the 15-day injured list to the 60-day injured list with a right shoulder impingement.
C. Seabold RP Sixty Day IL - Lat( Jun 30, '26) Jun 30, '26
The Kansas City Royals transferred RHP Connor Seabold to the 60-day injured list with right lat strain.
C. Estevez RP Sixty Day IL - Foot( Jun 14, '26) Jun 14, '26
The Kansas City Royals transferred RHP Carlos Estévez from the 15-day to the 60-day injured list with left foot contusion.
C. Ragans SP Sixty Day IL - Elbow( May 07, '26) May 07, '26
The Kansas City Royals transferred LHP Cole Ragans from the 15-day injured list to the 60-day injured list with elbow impingement.
J. India 2B Sixty Day IL - Shoulder( Apr 27, '26) Apr 27, '26
The Kansas City Royals transferred INF Jonathan India to the 60-day injured list.
J. McArthur RP Sixty Day IL - Elbow( Apr 18, '26) Apr 18, '26
The Kansas City Royals transferred RHP James McArthur from the 15-day injured list to the 60-day injured list with right elbow inflammation.
A. Marsh SP Sixty Day IL - Shoulder( Feb 11, '26) Feb 11, '26
The Kansas City Royals placed RHP Alec Marsh on the 60-day injured list due to a shoulder injury.

Kansas City Starters Last Game

(* - Change In Order)

CHW vs KC Starters Recent Games

Win / Loss
1-4
ERA
7.23
Avg. IP
4.2
Last 5
Date Score
Line O/U IP H R ER SO BB HR PIT P/IP GB:FB
Sep 11, '26 STL 7 - CHW 3
L -106 o7.5 4.0 5 3 3 2 1 0 67 16.8 1.3
Sep 05, '26 CHW 4 - MIN 6
L -126 o8.0 4.1 6 5 5 3 1 1 82 18.9 2.7
Aug 31, '26 HOU 6 - CHW 3
L +118 o8.5 4.2 6 6 5 5 2 1 89 19.1 2.5
Aug 25, '26 CHW 11 - TEX 7
W +100 o7.5 4.2 6 4 4 4 2 2 99 21.2 1.3
Aug 20, '26 CHW 0 - ATL 2
L -105 u8.5 6.0 5 2 2 6 1 0 94 15.7 9.0
Last 5 Avg. 4.2 5.6 4.0 3.8 4.0 1.4 0.8 86.2 18.3 3.4
Last Vs Kansas City
Date Score
Line O/U IP H R ER SO BB HR PIT P/IP GB:FB
Jun 28, '26 CHW 4 - KC 5
L -136 o8.5 3.2 7 5 3 2 1 0 73 19.9 2.0
May 14, '26 CHW 6 - KC 2
W +118 o7.5 6.0 6 2 2 4 2 0 97 16.2 1.3
Apr 09, '26 KC 0 - CHW 2
W +150 u9.0 5.2 3 0 0 6 2 0 100 17.6 1.0
Last 3 Avg. 5.0 5.3 2.3 1.7 4.0 1.7 0.0 90.0 17.9 1.4
Win / Loss
4-1
ERA
4.98
Avg. IP
4.1
Last 5
Date Score
Line O/U IP H R ER SO BB HR PIT P/IP GB:FB
Sep 09, '26 KC 5 - AZ 2
W +100 u8.5 5.0 4 2 2 3 2 1 81 16.2 1.3
Sep 04, '26 KC 2 - TOR 9
L -119 o10.0 5.0 7 5 5 0 1 0 70 14.0 4.0
Aug 29, '26 CLE 3 - KC 8
W +146 o7.5 3.1 3 2 2 3 2 1 70 21.0 6.0
Aug 23, '26 KC 11 - DET 7
W +100 o8.5 4.1 4 2 2 2 1 0 59 13.6 0.6
Aug 18, '26 KC 4 - ATH 3
W -156 u9.0 4.0 2 1 1 1 2 0 45 11.3 1.0
Last 5 Avg. 4.1 4.0 2.4 2.4 1.8 1.6 0.4 65.0 15.2 2.6
Last Vs Chicago
Date Score
Line O/U IP H R ER SO BB HR PIT P/IP GB:FB
Aug 22, '22 KC 6 - CHW 4
W +133 o8.0 4.2 7 3 3 0 4 0 87 18.6 2.0
Aug 01, '22 CHW 1 - KC 2
W +148 u9.0 5.1 6 0 0 7 0 0 87 16.3 1.5
Apr 26, '22 CHW 0 - KC 6
W +131 u8.0 6.0 2 0 0 7 2 0 98 16.3 4.0
Last 3 Avg. 5.1 5.0 1.0 1.0 4.7 2.0 0.0 90.7 17.1 2.5

CHW vs KCStats

CHW vs KC Stats Analysis

All Pitchers
Team ERA AVG. OBP WHIP IP HR BB K
Chicago logo Chicago -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
Kansas City logo Kansas City -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --

More Stats

Chi. White Sox Bullpen REST G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA WHIP GB:FB
Jordan Leasure (R) 117 18 18.2 15 14 13 6 7 18 6.27 1.18 9:19
Last 3 1 1.0 1 1 1 0 0 0 9.00 1.00 0:2
Huascar Brazoban (R) 29 56 62.2 42 23 22 5 28 54 3.16 1.12 68:30
Last 3 1 1.0 1 1 1 0 2 0 9.00 3.00 1:0
Jordan Hicks (R) 10 48 44.1 39 21 21 4 26 57 4.26 1.47 37:20
Anthony Kay (L) 10 30 145.0 147 78 73 20 51 118 4.53 1.37 158:71
Trevor Richards (R) 8 49 74.1 62 33 29 11 19 67 3.51 1.09 50:66
Last 3 2 2.0 1 2 0 1 0 0 0.00 0.50 4:1
Sean Newcomb (L) 8 55 85.1 67 30 26 2 27 78 2.74 1.10 86:42
Last 3 1 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 1.00 1:1
Grant Taylor (R) 7 57 78.1 57 27 21 7 28 102 2.41 1.09 67:39
Last 3 1 1.2 2 2 2 0 1 2 10.80 1.80 1:0
Chris Murphy (L) 7 32 32.2 30 20 17 4 16 34 4.68 1.41 18:31
Last 3 2 2.0 4 3 3 2 1 4 13.50 2.50 0:1
Bryan Hudson (L) 7 65 63.2 57 22 20 4 15 58 2.83 1.13 61:42
Last 3 1 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0.00 2:1
Bullpen Total 203 410 605.0 516 268 242 63 217 586 3.60 1.21 554:360
Last 3 9 9.2 10 9 7 3 4 6 6.52 1.45 9:6
Available Bullpen 203 410 605.0 516 268 242 63 217 586 3.60 1.21 554:360


Kansas City Bullpen REST G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA WHIP GB:FB
Carlos Estevez (R) 178 1 0.1 4 6 6 1 2 0 162.00 18.00 0:0
Nick Mears (R) 118 21 19.1 18 11 11 2 10 15 5.12 1.45 18:11
Last 3 1 0.2 2 3 3 0 2 1 40.50 6.00 0:0
Connor Seabold (R) 84 21 24.0 30 15 14 2 11 20 5.25 1.71 24:20
Last 3 1 0.2 0 2 1 0 2 0 13.50 3.00 2:0
Beck Way (R) 60 19 23.1 27 13 10 4 10 21 3.86 1.59 26:11
Daniel Lynch IV (L) 13 53 71.2 57 32 28 6 22 49 3.52 1.10 83:45
Nolan Hoffman (R) 11 8 10.0 10 5 5 0 4 6 4.50 1.40 11:4
Steven Cruz (R) 11 53 55.2 49 27 25 12 18 59 4.04 1.20 53:22
Anthony Gose (L) 10 8 7.2 6 2 0 0 1 1 0.00 0.91 5:6
Last 3 1 0.1 1 0 0 0 0 1 0.00 3.00 0:0
Alex Lange (R) 10 55 56.2 59 40 38 9 30 56 6.04 1.57 60:28
Last 3 1 1.0 3 1 1 0 1 0 9.00 4.00 1:1
Craig Kimbrel (R) 9 45 45.0 39 27 23 4 20 40 4.60 1.31 30:36
Last 3 1 0.1 0 1 1 0 2 0 27.00 6.00 0:1
Lucas Erceg (R) 6 48 44.1 53 35 30 5 27 32 6.09 1.80 53:14
Last 3 2 1.0 1 1 1 0 2 1 9.00 3.00 1:0
Jose Cuas (R) 6 20 19.0 23 6 5 0 11 21 2.37 1.79 12:8
Last 3 1 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 2 0.00 1.00 1:0
Bullpen Total 516 352 377.0 375 219 195 45 166 320 4.66 1.44 375:205
Last 3 8 5.0 7 8 7 0 10 5 12.60 3.40 5:2
Available Bullpen 516 352 377.0 375 219 195 45 166 320 4.66 1.44 375:205
Chi. White Sox All Starters REST G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA WHIP GB:FB
Noah Schultz (L) 46 15 65.1 62 45 44 9 31 59 6.06 1.42 58:37
Erick Fedde (R) 12 31 133.2 131 67 59 23 46 91 3.97 1.32 130:93
Luis Castillo (R) 10 27 128.2 148 91 81 24 41 111 5.67 1.47 114:87
David Sandlin (R) 9 6 30.1 24 22 19 6 12 29 5.64 1.19 35:13
Hagen Smith (L) 8 16 30.1 20 14 11 2 19 43 3.26 1.29 26:9
Sean Burke (R) 8 30 161.0 135 65 62 18 58 173 3.47 1.20 111:105
Davis Martin (R) 7 27 141.0 140 65 62 14 43 115 3.96 1.30 139:72


Kansas City All Starters REST G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA WHIP GB:FB
Cole Ragans (L) 139 8 35.1 27 20 19 10 23 45 4.84 1.42 23:20
Stephen Kolek (R) 82 10 54.0 55 30 27 8 12 34 4.50 1.24 68:29
Luinder Avila (R) 51 21 70.0 71 43 43 7 42 61 5.53 1.61 75:36
Seth Lugo (R) 11 30 164.0 185 99 91 19 53 126 4.99 1.45 156:116
Randy Dobnak (R) 10 13 69.1 65 21 21 6 23 47 2.73 1.27 89:38
Nate Pearson (R) 9 37 42.0 30 13 11 1 19 38 2.36 1.17 36:26
Connor Thomas (L) 9 13 17.1 25 18 18 4 7 13 9.35 1.85 22:8
Noah Cameron (L) 9 29 166.1 146 76 71 17 51 149 3.84 1.18 156:102
Michael Wacha (R) 6 30 188.2 158 74 70 27 48 149 3.34 1.09 168:128

Betting Terminology

  • M/L: Closing moneyline odds
  • O/U: Closing total and odds
  • IP: Innings pitched by the starter
  • H: Hits allowed by the starter
  • R: Runs allowed by the starter
  • ER: Earned runs allowed by the starter
  • SO: Strikeouts thrown by the starter
  • BB: Walks allowed by the starter
  • HR: Home runs allowed by the starter
  • PIT: Total pitches thrown by the starter
  • P/IP: Pitches thrown per inning by the starter
  • GB:FB: Groundball - flyball ratio by the starter

Betting Terminology

  • W/L: Win-loss record (last 10)
  • Net $: $ won/lost based on $100 bets (last 10)
  • O/U: Over under record (last 10)
  • M/L: Closing moneyline odds for the game
  • O/U: Closing total and odds for the game
  • Away/Home Starter: Starting pitchers for the game
  • Last vs: The result last time the teams played
  • Schedule Starter: Expected starter for the upcoming game

Betting Terminology

Records below refer to the game # of all series across the season. Game 1, game 2 etc.

  • Overall: Team’s season record
  • After Win: Team’s record for the game immediately after a win
  • After Loss: Team’s record for the game immediately after a loss

Betting Terminology

  • Runs/9: Runs per nine innings
  • AVG: Batting average
  • Hits: Average hits per game
  • HR: Average home runs per game
  • BB: Average bases on balls (walks) per game
  • EB Hits: Average extra base hits per game
  • SB: Average stolen bases per game
  • OBP: On base percentage
  • R: Runs allowed
  • ER: Earned runs allowed
  • AVG: Batting average allowed
  • HR: Average home runs allowed
  • BB: Average bases on balls (walks) allowed
  • IP(S): Average innings pitched by starters
  • K(S): Average strikeouts by starters
  • K(B): Average strikeouts by bullpen
  • Rest(B): % of relievers that are available to pitch today
  • RF: Average team runs for. The run support pitchers are getting

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