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    roughshod31
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2009 - 9:51 PM ET #701

    I truly would like to help those of you who would like help with the spreadsheet. The problem is I don't use Excel, I instead use Open Office.org which I assume is similar. Ihave
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    I truly would like to help those of you who would like help with the spreadsheet. The problem is I don't use Excel, I instead use Open Office.org which I assume is similar. Ihave
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2009 - 9:55 PM ET #702

    NFL Week 8 Predictions

    Denver 23 - Baltimore 15

    Cleveland 13 - Chicago 23

    Houston 22 - Buffalo 16

    Minnesota 23 - Green Bay 25

    San Francisco 14 - Indianapolis 24

    Miami 19 - NY Jets 20

    St Louis 10 - Detroit 25

    Seattle 23 - Dallas 20

    Oakland 10 - San Diego 34

    Jacksonville 23 - Tennessee 22

    Carolina 9 - Arizona 38

    NY Giants 39 - Philadelphia 22
    (Sunday Night)

    Atlanta 27 - New Orleans 31
    (Monday Night)


    Plays: (Difference +/-7 from vegas line at the time of this writing)

    • Denver +3.5
    • Seattle +9.5
    • San Diego -16.5
    • Arizona -10
    • NY Giants +1

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    NFL Week 8 Predictions

    Denver 23 - Baltimore 15

    Cleveland 13 - Chicago 23

    Houston 22 - Buffalo 16

    Minnesota 23 - Green Bay 25

    San Francisco 14 - Indianapolis 24

    Miami 19 - NY Jets 20

    St Louis 10 - Detroit 25

    Seattle 23 - Dallas 20

    Oakland 10 - San Diego 34

    Jacksonville 23 - Tennessee 22

    Carolina 9 - Arizona 38

    NY Giants 39 - Philadelphia 22
    (Sunday Night)

    Atlanta 27 - New Orleans 31
    (Monday Night)


    Plays: (Difference +/-7 from vegas line at the time of this writing)

    • Denver +3.5
    • Seattle +9.5
    • San Diego -16.5
    • Arizona -10
    • NY Giants +1

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2009 - 9:58 PM ET #703

    cont'd

     only been using the program for a little over a week. That being said I doubt I could help much with the Excel spreadsheet. I will also try to answer any questions that have not yet become mundane in this thread.

    GL

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    cont'd

     only been using the program for a little over a week. That being said I doubt I could help much with the Excel spreadsheet. I will also try to answer any questions that have not yet become mundane in this thread.

    GL

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2009 - 10:00 PM ET #704

    My mistake

    Giants/Eagles is not Sunday night.

    World Series is in effect.
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    My mistake

    Giants/Eagles is not Sunday night.

    World Series is in effect.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2009 - 10:09 PM ET #705

    According to my spread sheet:
    Baltimore - 16
    Denver - 23

    This is also more than 7 points from Vegas's line and is a strong play.

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    According to my spread sheet:
    Baltimore - 16
    Denver - 23

    This is also more than 7 points from Vegas's line and is a strong play.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2009 - 10:09 PM ET #706

    Quote Originally Posted by Midas_Mulligan:

    According to my spread sheet:
    Baltimore - 16
    Denver - 23

    This is also more than 7 points from Vegas's line and is a strong play.


    VGVOP my mistake it was listed first on your sheet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midas_Mulligan:

    According to my spread sheet:
    Baltimore - 16
    Denver - 23

    This is also more than 7 points from Vegas's line and is a strong play.


    VGVOP my mistake it was listed first on your sheet.
    Thanks
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2009 - 10:31 PM ET #707

    those are the numbers I got as well. There are several appealing games this week. I already have money on ARI -10.
    DEN looks like another good play, they just don't get respect from vegas.
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    those are the numbers I got as well. There are several appealing games this week. I already have money on ARI -10.
    DEN looks like another good play, they just don't get respect from vegas.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2009 - 11:13 PM ET #708

    Good Info POP 
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2009 - 11:24 PM ET #709

    keep up the good work! It helps in my research!
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    keep up the good work! It helps in my research!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2009 - 12:30 AM ET #710

    Using the same stats that I use in college

    All 3 Dogs are the Best Bets

    Dev. 10*

    Dev.M/L 10*

    Seattle 10*

    Seattle M/L 10*

    Giants 10*

    Giants 10*

    Ariz.   3*

     

    Staying away from Oakland/SD

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    Using the same stats that I use in college

    All 3 Dogs are the Best Bets

    Dev. 10*

    Dev.M/L 10*

    Seattle 10*

    Seattle M/L 10*

    Giants 10*

    Giants 10*

    Ariz.   3*

     

    Staying away from Oakland/SD

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2009 - 1:05 AM ET #711

    Hey rough ... I just want to say thanks on the NBA prediction bc i took the celtics bc they were a +5 keep it up and u had cleveland winning by 3 so thanks ....
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    Hey rough ... I just want to say thanks on the NBA prediction bc i took the celtics bc they were a +5 keep it up and u had cleveland winning by 3 so thanks ....
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2009 - 1:24 AM ET #712

    Rough,

    First of all, i appreciate you posting this new method and then taking time to answer all the questions posted by our fellow bettors.

    Unfortunatly, its only now that i came across your post and been trying to figure it out.

    Can you please elaborate on the SOS. You have mentioned that you get the numbers from USA today. They have catagorized the ratings in 3 parts, which one do you use. Also right now its showing the rating for week 7, i guess i have to wait till they update that.

    I know this might be too much to ask, but can you please analyze a game from week 8. Would help me out a lot and also will help the others confirm if they are doing the calculations correctly.

    Once again from all of us, we appreciate your efforts.

    Thanks.

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    Rough,

    First of all, i appreciate you posting this new method and then taking time to answer all the questions posted by our fellow bettors.

    Unfortunatly, its only now that i came across your post and been trying to figure it out.

    Can you please elaborate on the SOS. You have mentioned that you get the numbers from USA today. They have catagorized the ratings in 3 parts, which one do you use. Also right now its showing the rating for week 7, i guess i have to wait till they update that.

    I know this might be too much to ask, but can you please analyze a game from week 8. Would help me out a lot and also will help the others confirm if they are doing the calculations correctly.

    Once again from all of us, we appreciate your efforts.

    Thanks.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2009 - 2:49 AM ET #714

    LBDH

    Take a look at and around posting #158 for some of your answers

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    LBDH

    Take a look at and around posting #158 for some of your answers

     
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    Thanks gloom8doom.

    Roughshod31's breakdown from post #158

    Full Math Original Version:

    Boise St. 68.77 (SOS)    1.068

    Tulsa       60.00 (SOS       .932

    68.77 + 60.00 = 128.77 / 2 = 64.39

    60.00 / 64.39 = .932 (Tulsa) 68.77 / 64.39 = 1.068 (Boise St.)

    Boise (O)   191.6 (R) (+28.8)   247.8 (P) (+37.6)   10.9 YPPT (-1.3)

    Tulsa  (D)   95.0   (R) (-31.1)    204.2 (P) (+6.5)     18.5 YPPT (-0.3)

    Couple of questions

    1) Which numbers do i use for the SOS?(Boise St 68.77,Tulsa 60)

    2) What are the numbers in the brackets (191.6 (R) (+28.8)    247.8 (P) (+37.6)   10.9 YPPT (-1.3)

    3) Whats the best place to get the stats? Statfox.com??

    Thanks in advance.

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    Thanks gloom8doom.

    Roughshod31's breakdown from post #158

    Full Math Original Version:

    Boise St. 68.77 (SOS)    1.068

    Tulsa       60.00 (SOS       .932

    68.77 + 60.00 = 128.77 / 2 = 64.39

    60.00 / 64.39 = .932 (Tulsa) 68.77 / 64.39 = 1.068 (Boise St.)

    Boise (O)   191.6 (R) (+28.8)   247.8 (P) (+37.6)   10.9 YPPT (-1.3)

    Tulsa  (D)   95.0   (R) (-31.1)    204.2 (P) (+6.5)     18.5 YPPT (-0.3)

    Couple of questions

    1) Which numbers do i use for the SOS?(Boise St 68.77,Tulsa 60)

    2) What are the numbers in the brackets (191.6 (R) (+28.8)    247.8 (P) (+37.6)   10.9 YPPT (-1.3)

    3) Whats the best place to get the stats? Statfox.com??

    Thanks in advance.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetsBeatDaHouse:

    Rough,

    First of all, i appreciate you posting this new method and then taking time to answer all the questions posted by our fellow bettors.

    Unfortunatly, its only now that i came across your post and been trying to figure it out.

    Can you please elaborate on the SOS. You have mentioned that you get the numbers from USA today. They have catagorized the ratings in 3 parts, which one do you use. Also right now its showing the rating for week 7, i guess i have to wait till they update that.

    I know this might be too much to ask, but can you please analyze a game from week 8. Would help me out a lot and also will help the others confirm if they are doing the calculations correctly.

    Once again from all of us, we appreciate your efforts.

    Thanks.

     

    Use the column SCHEDL

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    Quote Originally Posted by LetsBeatDaHouse:

    Rough,

    First of all, i appreciate you posting this new method and then taking time to answer all the questions posted by our fellow bettors.

    Unfortunatly, its only now that i came across your post and been trying to figure it out.

    Can you please elaborate on the SOS. You have mentioned that you get the numbers from USA today. They have catagorized the ratings in 3 parts, which one do you use. Also right now its showing the rating for week 7, i guess i have to wait till they update that.

    I know this might be too much to ask, but can you please analyze a game from week 8. Would help me out a lot and also will help the others confirm if they are doing the calculations correctly.

    Once again from all of us, we appreciate your efforts.

    Thanks.

     

    Use the column SCHEDL

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2009 - 10:27 AM ET #717

    Column SCHEDL from where?

    Thanks.

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    Column SCHEDL from where?

    Thanks.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2009 - 10:43 AM ET #718

    Hey LetsBeatDaHouse got to this website

    https://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin.htm

    On the NFL ratings sheet look under the column that says SCHEDL.  This is the SOS rating.

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    Hey LetsBeatDaHouse got to this website

    https://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin.htm

    On the NFL ratings sheet look under the column that says SCHEDL.  This is the SOS rating.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2009 - 10:46 AM ET #719

    My mistake. I meant the 2009 NCAA rating by team sheet.
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    My mistake. I meant the 2009 NCAA rating by team sheet.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2009 - 10:59 AM ET #720

    Thank 3rdLeg.

    Now what are the figures in the brackets?

    Boise (O)   191.6 (R) (+28.8)   247.8 (P) (+37.6)   10.9 YPPT (-1.3)

    Tulsa  (D)   95.0   (R) (-31.1)    204.2 (P) (+6.5)     18.5 YPPT (-0.3)

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    Thank 3rdLeg.

    Now what are the figures in the brackets?

    Boise (O)   191.6 (R) (+28.8)   247.8 (P) (+37.6)   10.9 YPPT (-1.3)

    Tulsa  (D)   95.0   (R) (-31.1)    204.2 (P) (+6.5)     18.5 YPPT (-0.3)

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2009 - 11:39 AM ET #721

    If you go to statfox.com and compare this game matchup (which I don't know if you still can since the game has already been played) the numbers in the brackets are the difference between Boise St.'s offensive average and the opposing defense's average.  The (R) stand for Rushing average the (P) stands for passing average.  Same for the YPPT or yards per point.  Likewise with Tulsa's defensive average and the opposing offense's average.

    This is also the argument that VGPOP has had in stating that statfox's statistics are not only incorect in themselves but they also take into account stats that are achieved when playing Div 1-AA teams. He has found a way to disregard Div 1-AA stats giving a truer result. I've been trying to find a better stat site but with no result.

    Hope this helps.

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    If you go to statfox.com and compare this game matchup (which I don't know if you still can since the game has already been played) the numbers in the brackets are the difference between Boise St.'s offensive average and the opposing defense's average.  The (R) stand for Rushing average the (P) stands for passing average.  Same for the YPPT or yards per point.  Likewise with Tulsa's defensive average and the opposing offense's average.

    This is also the argument that VGPOP has had in stating that statfox's statistics are not only incorect in themselves but they also take into account stats that are achieved when playing Div 1-AA teams. He has found a way to disregard Div 1-AA stats giving a truer result. I've been trying to find a better stat site but with no result.

    Hope this helps.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2009 - 12:11 PM ET #722

    3rdLeg,

    If its just a difference (thats what i thought it was as per post# 1), shouldent the number in the bracket be 191.6 - 95 = 96.6. Also where does the bracket number for the Tulsa D come from. Am sorry, but i am still confused

    Can you please post some numbers for the Giants @ Philly game. That way i will have the current numbers and will help me understand this better.

    Thanks for your time. Much appreciated.

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    3rdLeg,

    If its just a difference (thats what i thought it was as per post# 1), shouldent the number in the bracket be 191.6 - 95 = 96.6. Also where does the bracket number for the Tulsa D come from. Am sorry, but i am still confused

    Can you please post some numbers for the Giants @ Philly game. That way i will have the current numbers and will help me understand this better.

    Thanks for your time. Much appreciated.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2009 - 12:22 PM ET #723

    Guys thanks for the picks!!!

    Seattle with a lot of injuries up front.

    Oak may have a qb change.

    Otherwise I am on board. The NYG are the kind of team that I love this program for. I would have thought the Eagles.  This is cool insight, thank you very very much for the work.

    GLA

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    Guys thanks for the picks!!!

    Seattle with a lot of injuries up front.

    Oak may have a qb change.

    Otherwise I am on board. The NYG are the kind of team that I love this program for. I would have thought the Eagles.  This is cool insight, thank you very very much for the work.

    GLA

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2009 - 12:30 PM ET #724

    i need someone to post this weekends games with formula please???
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    i need someone to post this weekends games with formula please???
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2009 - 12:43 PM ET #725

    Good to see Denver in there. GMen also Roll
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    Good to see Denver in there. GMen also Roll
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