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    roughshod31
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2009 - 10:54 AM ET #1

    Some of you may recognize me from college bowl season, this is a new and improved YPPT predictive model.


                            Rushing  (+/-)  Passing (+/-) Total Yds.  YPPT(+/-)

    Minnesota (O)    123.5 (+2.5)    198.0 (-27.0)   321.5       10.9 (-3.0)

    St. Louis   (D)     135.0 (+34.1)  224.5 (+8.3)    359.5       13.3 (-1.8)

    Totals/2              129.3 (+18.3)  211.3 (-9.4)     340.5       12.1 (-2.4)

    Total Pre SOS     147.6             201.9              349.5        9.7

    SOS (M)  .945      139.4             190.8              330.2       N/A

    SOS (STL) 1.055                                                           10.2

                                     330.2 YDS / 10.2 YPPT  =  32.4

                                    32/33 Not Common  Scores Use 31/34

    Predicted outcome using this method.

    Minnesota      31

    St. Louis          7

    GL  



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    Some of you may recognize me from college bowl season, this is a new and improved YPPT predictive model.


                            Rushing  (+/-)  Passing (+/-) Total Yds.  YPPT(+/-)

    Minnesota (O)    123.5 (+2.5)    198.0 (-27.0)   321.5       10.9 (-3.0)

    St. Louis   (D)     135.0 (+34.1)  224.5 (+8.3)    359.5       13.3 (-1.8)

    Totals/2              129.3 (+18.3)  211.3 (-9.4)     340.5       12.1 (-2.4)

    Total Pre SOS     147.6             201.9              349.5        9.7

    SOS (M)  .945      139.4             190.8              330.2       N/A

    SOS (STL) 1.055                                                           10.2

                                     330.2 YDS / 10.2 YPPT  =  32.4

                                    32/33 Not Common  Scores Use 31/34

    Predicted outcome using this method.

    Minnesota      31

    St. Louis          7

    GL  



     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2009 - 10:59 AM ET #2

    I don't get it but Minny all the way
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2009 - 11:13 AM ET #3

    Hey roughshod,
    I don't think I am going to finish the math in time!...lol...Are you going to post all nfl games this week?  I like the way the new system is it's just going to take me time...thanks for posting the thorough example
     
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    Hey roughshod,
    I don't think I am going to finish the math in time!...lol...Are you going to post all nfl games this week?  I like the way the new system is it's just going to take me time...thanks for posting the thorough example
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2009 - 11:32 AM ET #4

    I will try to get them all.

    Dallas            27

    Kansas City   17

    Upset Special

    Cleveland        23

    Buffalo            20



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    I will try to get them all.

    Dallas            27

    Kansas City   17

    Upset Special

    Cleveland        23

    Buffalo            20



     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2009 - 11:42 AM ET #5

    Thanks roughshod, I appreciate it.  Good luck to you too!
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    Thanks roughshod, I appreciate it.  Good luck to you too!
     
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    Cincinnati            24

    Baltimore             21

    I'm Trying LOL.

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    Cincinnati            24

    Baltimore             21

    I'm Trying LOL.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2009 - 12:03 PM ET #7

    Pittsburgh             24

    Detroit                  23


    I'm Loving the DOGS today baby.

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    Pittsburgh             24

    Detroit                  23


    I'm Loving the DOGS today baby.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2009 - 12:23 PM ET #8

    Washington        10

    Carolina              14

    UNDER   37.5

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    Washington        10

    Carolina              14

    UNDER   37.5

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2009 - 12:38 PM ET #9

    Tampa Bay         14

    Philadelphia        31

    1 to go in the early games.

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    Tampa Bay         14

    Philadelphia        31

    1 to go in the early games.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2009 - 1:01 PM ET #10

    Oakland        14

    NY Giants      23

    Note:   I ONLY play SIDES that are +/-  4 PTS  & TOTALS that are +/- 10.5 PTS on predicted models. Todays early plays are.

    Minnesota  -10.5

    Washington UNDER 38.0

    Cleveland  +5.5

    Cincinnati   +9.0

    Detroit     +11.0

    GL



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    Oakland        14

    NY Giants      23

    Note:   I ONLY play SIDES that are +/-  4 PTS  & TOTALS that are +/- 10.5 PTS on predicted models. Todays early plays are.

    Minnesota  -10.5

    Washington UNDER 38.0

    Cleveland  +5.5

    Cincinnati   +9.0

    Detroit     +11.0

    GL



     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2009 - 1:02 PM ET #11

    Sorry Missed

    Oakland   +15.0

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    Oakland   +15.0

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2009 - 1:20 PM ET #12

    Thanks again, roughshod!  Next week I will try to do this myself...lol  One thing about the min/stl game as far as sos.
     
    On team rankings I see min as a 25.8 and stl as a 23.7 sos.
     
    23.7/25.8 = 1.088 for min?
    .088/2 = 1.044 for min and .956 for stl?
     
    Maybe you are using a different site or I am doing something wrong?
     
    Thanks again, for everything.
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    Thanks again, roughshod!  Next week I will try to do this myself...lol  One thing about the min/stl game as far as sos.
     
    On team rankings I see min as a 25.8 and stl as a 23.7 sos.
     
    23.7/25.8 = 1.088 for min?
    .088/2 = 1.044 for min and .956 for stl?
     
    Maybe you are using a different site or I am doing something wrong?
     
    Thanks again, for everything.
     
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    Don't you have to consider that winning and losing games greatly effect yppt. As games go on teams benefit from winning or look worse because they are losing. For example NFL defenses are awful after they've been on the field for 50 plays. Also, quarterbacks look better when they haven't been hit etc, etc. I have no idea how to incorporate that into your formula or if you would want to. The first place I would look would be in the NCAAF where any good formula would prob result in Bama, Flor, and Texas as the top rated team.
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    Don't you have to consider that winning and losing games greatly effect yppt. As games go on teams benefit from winning or look worse because they are losing. For example NFL defenses are awful after they've been on the field for 50 plays. Also, quarterbacks look better when they haven't been hit etc, etc. I have no idea how to incorporate that into your formula or if you would want to. The first place I would look would be in the NCAAF where any good formula would prob result in Bama, Flor, and Texas as the top rated team.
     
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    Sorry lou  I used.

    Minnesota    19.60 SOS

    St.Louis       21.86 SOS

                       41.46/2 = 20.73

                       19.60/20.73 = .945  (Using Sagarin SOS)

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    Sorry lou  I used.

    Minnesota    19.60 SOS

    St.Louis       21.86 SOS

                       41.46/2 = 20.73

                       19.60/20.73 = .945  (Using Sagarin SOS)

     
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    Mid Afternooners are done.

    Atlanta              13

    San Francisco    21


    New England      13

    Denver                14


    Houston               17

    Arizona                 34


    Jacksonville          21

    Seattle                 23

    GL    See Ya  for Tenn./Indy.

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    Mid Afternooners are done.

    Atlanta              13

    San Francisco    21


    New England      13

    Denver                14


    Houston               17

    Arizona                 34


    Jacksonville          21

    Seattle                 23

    GL    See Ya  for Tenn./Indy.

     
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    Late Plays.

    San Francisco   Even

    Arizona              -5.5

    Denver                +3.0   &    Under   41.5

    GL

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    Late Plays.

    San Francisco   Even

    Arizona              -5.5

    Denver                +3.0   &    Under   41.5

    GL

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2009 - 3:45 PM ET #17

    try to figure out the math - so far you doing well today


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    Quote Originally Posted by roughshod31:

    Sorry lou  I used.

    Minnesota    19.60 SOS

    St.Louis       21.86 SOS

                       41.46/2 = 20.73

                       19.60/20.73 = .945  (Using Sagarin SOS)

     

    No need to appoligize roughshod,  I was looking at the wrong thing.  You have been a big help!  Again, I appreciate it!

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    Sorry lou  I used.

    Minnesota    19.60 SOS

    St.Louis       21.86 SOS

                       41.46/2 = 20.73

                       19.60/20.73 = .945  (Using Sagarin SOS)

     

    No need to appoligize roughshod,  I was looking at the wrong thing.  You have been a big help!  Again, I appreciate it!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2009 - 7:39 PM ET #19

    It has been a prosperous day for the predictive model going 8-2.

    Tonights Game

    Indianapolis        28

    Tennessee          17

    Play: Indianapolis -3.5

    GL

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    It has been a prosperous day for the predictive model going 8-2.

    Tonights Game

    Indianapolis        28

    Tennessee          17

    Play: Indianapolis -3.5

    GL

     
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    willing to explain your system in more detail?
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    willing to explain your system in more detail?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2009 - 9:34 PM ET #21

    Excellent job roughshod!  Last time I knew, 80% against the spread was pretty darn good!  I realize it doesn't happen every week but 8-2 in ANY week is great!  Thanks for sharing.
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    Excellent job roughshod!  Last time I knew, 80% against the spread was pretty darn good!  I realize it doesn't happen every week but 8-2 in ANY week is great!  Thanks for sharing.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2009 - 9:49 PM ET #22

    Can you break down the math?
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2009 - 10:00 PM ET #23

    What is YPPT?
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2009 - 10:01 PM ET #24

    No clue how the math works but your algebraic equations seemed to work out, well done!
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    No clue how the math works but your algebraic equations seemed to work out, well done!
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2009 - 10:08 PM ET #25

    Thanks everyone the niceness means alot.

    I will try to explain the math w/the Jets/Dolphins game.

    YPPT is Yards Per Point.

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    Thanks everyone the niceness means alot.

    I will try to explain the math w/the Jets/Dolphins game.

    YPPT is Yards Per Point.

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