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    lou4062
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 11:18 AM ET #476

    Quote Originally Posted by Jsan:

    Hey Lou any chance you could share your spread sheet ? I too am like rm2673 having to cut/paste each stat ....

    Trying to figure out how to copy entire sheet from statfox and paste have it spreadsheet sum the columns pulling the data for the formula ....

    Jsan,

    I have tried different ways to post mine but no luck.  What I do, to get the statfox sheet on my spreadsheet is to highlight and copy the game you want.  Then, when you go to paste it on the spreadsheet, I have to "paste special" then I click HTML format and it comes out fine.  Hope this helps.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsan:

    Hey Lou any chance you could share your spread sheet ? I too am like rm2673 having to cut/paste each stat ....

    Trying to figure out how to copy entire sheet from statfox and paste have it spreadsheet sum the columns pulling the data for the formula ....

    Jsan,

    I have tried different ways to post mine but no luck.  What I do, to get the statfox sheet on my spreadsheet is to highlight and copy the game you want.  Then, when you go to paste it on the spreadsheet, I have to "paste special" then I click HTML format and it comes out fine.  Hope this helps.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 11:53 AM ET #477

    Is anyone working on Rutgers & Army yet? Interested in how that comes out.
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    Is anyone working on Rutgers & Army yet? Interested in how that comes out.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 11:55 AM ET #478

    lou Thanks .. Trying to get the data from with in the columns and run formula to calculate automatic ... Have you ran the numbers for the Rutgers game ??

    Wanting to check and see if formula is working .. I came up with Rutgers 24 Army 16 w/HFA (3.5)

     

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    lou Thanks .. Trying to get the data from with in the columns and run formula to calculate automatic ... Have you ran the numbers for the Rutgers game ??

    Wanting to check and see if formula is working .. I came up with Rutgers 24 Army 16 w/HFA (3.5)

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 12:03 PM ET #479

    rough/rm2673/VGPop - wanted to check with you guys as well to see if you have had a chance to work on the Rutgers game and what your final talley is .. Almost finished with spread sheet that may help ...

    rough - I know you have worked a new tweek to the system would like to learn what you did ... I can not figure it out with your FSU / UNC example .....

    Thanks guys !!!

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    rough/rm2673/VGPop - wanted to check with you guys as well to see if you have had a chance to work on the Rutgers game and what your final talley is .. Almost finished with spread sheet that may help ...

    rough - I know you have worked a new tweek to the system would like to learn what you did ... I can not figure it out with your FSU / UNC example .....

    Thanks guys !!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 12:06 PM ET #480

    Roughshod31 great prediction on Fla and NC. Still can't wait to see tonights. Thanks for the winners.
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    Roughshod31 great prediction on Fla and NC. Still can't wait to see tonights. Thanks for the winners.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 12:33 PM ET #481

    The System has Tonight's Game as a DEFINITE NO PLAY.

    Rutgers   263 Yds.  10.6 YPPT   56 Plays  4.7 YPP   (22.5)

    Army       260 Yds   20.1 YPPT   63 Plays  4.2 YPP   (15.2)

    Adjusted Score

    Rutgers     23

    Army         14

    GL

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    The System has Tonight's Game as a DEFINITE NO PLAY.

    Rutgers   263 Yds.  10.6 YPPT   56 Plays  4.7 YPP   (22.5)

    Army       260 Yds   20.1 YPPT   63 Plays  4.2 YPP   (15.2)

    Adjusted Score

    Rutgers     23

    Army         14

    GL

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 1:21 PM ET #482

    rough - man just when I think I got it .. just not sure how I am so off on Yds ...  Course only a few points off from you ( Rutger 24 Army 16) but, still want to be absolutly correct with you on the spreadsheet formulas ... Must be the new tweek you added ??
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    rough - man just when I think I got it .. just not sure how I am so off on Yds ...  Course only a few points off from you ( Rutger 24 Army 16) but, still want to be absolutly correct with you on the spreadsheet formulas ... Must be the new tweek you added ??
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 1:36 PM ET #483

    Quote Originally Posted by Jsan:

    lou Thanks .. Trying to get the data from with in the columns and run formula to calculate automatic ... Have you ran the numbers for the Rutgers game ??

    Wanting to check and see if formula is working .. I came up with Rutgers 24 Army 16 w/HFA (3.5)

     

     

    Using the original roughshod formula with no averaging double negatives and positives and with the orginal sos factor I got:

                  

                        Yards        Yppt       Points    HFA      Points    Final

    Rutgers       259.0        10.8       24.0      -1.75      22.2        21

    Army           262.1        19.8       13.2      +1.75     15            14

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsan:

    lou Thanks .. Trying to get the data from with in the columns and run formula to calculate automatic ... Have you ran the numbers for the Rutgers game ??

    Wanting to check and see if formula is working .. I came up with Rutgers 24 Army 16 w/HFA (3.5)

     

     

    Using the original roughshod formula with no averaging double negatives and positives and with the orginal sos factor I got:

                  

                        Yards        Yppt       Points    HFA      Points    Final

    Rutgers       259.0        10.8       24.0      -1.75      22.2        21

    Army           262.1        19.8       13.2      +1.75     15            14

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 1:51 PM ET #484

    Quote Originally Posted by roughshod31:

    The System has Tonight's Game as a DEFINITE NO PLAY.

    Rutgers   263 Yds.  10.6 YPPT   56 Plays  4.7 YPP   (22.5)

    Army       260 Yds   20.1 YPPT   63 Plays  4.2 YPP   (15.2)

    Adjusted Score

    Rutgers     23

    Army         14

    GL



    I got the same final score and agree that it is a no play.
    However, my total yards and YPPT for each team are slightly different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roughshod31:

    The System has Tonight's Game as a DEFINITE NO PLAY.

    Rutgers   263 Yds.  10.6 YPPT   56 Plays  4.7 YPP   (22.5)

    Army       260 Yds   20.1 YPPT   63 Plays  4.2 YPP   (15.2)

    Adjusted Score

    Rutgers     23

    Army         14

    GL



    I got the same final score and agree that it is a no play.
    However, my total yards and YPPT for each team are slightly different.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 1:57 PM ET #485

    Quote Originally Posted by lou4062:

    Jsan,

    I have tried different ways to post mine but no luck.  What I do, to get the statfox sheet on my spreadsheet is to highlight and copy the game you want.  Then, when you go to paste it on the spreadsheet, I have to "paste special" then I click HTML format and it comes out fine.  Hope this helps.

     

     



    hey lou, when I try to paste special, all the numbers still come out in one cell. I might be highlighting the wrong thing because I am just highlighting the entire row of numbers, for example, Rutger's offensive stats. How are you highlighting the game you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lou4062:

    Jsan,

    I have tried different ways to post mine but no luck.  What I do, to get the statfox sheet on my spreadsheet is to highlight and copy the game you want.  Then, when you go to paste it on the spreadsheet, I have to "paste special" then I click HTML format and it comes out fine.  Hope this helps.

     

     



    hey lou, when I try to paste special, all the numbers still come out in one cell. I might be highlighting the wrong thing because I am just highlighting the entire row of numbers, for example, Rutger's offensive stats. How are you highlighting the game you want.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 2:04 PM ET #486

    I must be missing something on YDS ...  I am getting 279 for Rutgers and 291 for Army ... .. 
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    I must be missing something on YDS ...  I am getting 279 for Rutgers and 291 for Army ... .. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 2:05 PM ET #487

    Quote Originally Posted by rm2673:



    hey lou, when I try to paste special, all the numbers still come out in one cell. I might be highlighting the wrong thing because I am just highlighting the entire row of numbers, for example, Rutger's offensive stats. How are you highlighting the game you want.

    Hey rm,  I highlight both teams stats, even though I'm not using certain stats, to get the ones you need, you have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm2673:



    hey lou, when I try to paste special, all the numbers still come out in one cell. I might be highlighting the wrong thing because I am just highlighting the entire row of numbers, for example, Rutger's offensive stats. How are you highlighting the game you want.

    Hey rm,  I highlight both teams stats, even though I'm not using certain stats, to get the ones you need, you have to.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 2:07 PM ET #488

    Quote Originally Posted by Jsan:

    I must be missing something on YDS ...  I am getting 279 for Rutgers and 291 for Army ... .. 


    I get 259 for RUT and 263 for Army
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsan:

    I must be missing something on YDS ...  I am getting 279 for Rutgers and 291 for Army ... .. 


    I get 259 for RUT and 263 for Army
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 2:11 PM ET #489

    Quote Originally Posted by Jsan:

    I must be missing something on YDS ...  I am getting 279 for Rutgers and 291 for Army ... .. 

    Jsan,

    I got 260 yards for  Rutgers and 261.1 for Army.  These totals were before any SOS factor, which if you look at my previous post, wasn't much of a difference between these two teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsan:

    I must be missing something on YDS ...  I am getting 279 for Rutgers and 291 for Army ... .. 

    Jsan,

    I got 260 yards for  Rutgers and 261.1 for Army.  These totals were before any SOS factor, which if you look at my previous post, wasn't much of a difference between these two teams.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 2:11 PM ET #490

    Quote Originally Posted by lou4062:

    Hey rm,  I highlight both teams stats, even though I'm not using certain stats, to get the ones you need, you have to.



    Yea I must not be doing something right because when I highlight the team stats, all the numbers are jumbled into one cell even if I use paste special -->HTML.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lou4062:

    Hey rm,  I highlight both teams stats, even though I'm not using certain stats, to get the ones you need, you have to.



    Yea I must not be doing something right because when I highlight the team stats, all the numbers are jumbled into one cell even if I use paste special -->HTML.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 2:15 PM ET #491

    Quote Originally Posted by rm2673:



    I get 259 for RUT and 263 for Army

    rm beat me to the punch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm2673:



    I get 259 for RUT and 263 for Army

    rm beat me to the punch.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 2:50 PM ET #492

    [Quote: Originally Posted by rkydkydoc]

    Sorry I missed that , you absolutley need to do that!

    So it should readFSU 15.5 + -.85 =14.65 x .94 = 13.77

                             NC    13.8 + -1.35 =12.45 x 1.06 = 13.19

    FSU 365/13.77 =26.5 ACTUAL/438yds 30pts

    NC 339/13.19 = 25.7 ACTUAL 333yards 27 pts

    I"ll MAKE CHANGES ON THE ABOVE POST

    Still think the original method is pretty damn good lets put it to the test tonight

    (38.5) RUT 104+149=253/12.82=19.7

    (+10)  ARMY 203+90=293/13.68 = 21.41

    ARMY wins outright? Line started at 40 Won with a teaser last night FSU +8.5 & OV 42. Liking Army + pts and the Under in another. Still like 10 pts at home too. Slow night tonight looking for a hockey play as well.

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by rkydkydoc]

    Sorry I missed that , you absolutley need to do that!

    So it should readFSU 15.5 + -.85 =14.65 x .94 = 13.77

                             NC    13.8 + -1.35 =12.45 x 1.06 = 13.19

    FSU 365/13.77 =26.5 ACTUAL/438yds 30pts

    NC 339/13.19 = 25.7 ACTUAL 333yards 27 pts

    I"ll MAKE CHANGES ON THE ABOVE POST

    Still think the original method is pretty damn good lets put it to the test tonight

    (38.5) RUT 104+149=253/12.82=19.7

    (+10)  ARMY 203+90=293/13.68 = 21.41

    ARMY wins outright? Line started at 40 Won with a teaser last night FSU +8.5 & OV 42. Liking Army + pts and the Under in another. Still like 10 pts at home too. Slow night tonight looking for a hockey play as well.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lou4062:

    Jsan,

    I have tried different ways to post mine but no luck.  What I do, to get the statfox sheet on my spreadsheet is to highlight and copy the game you want.  Then, when you go to paste it on the spreadsheet, I have to "paste special" then I click HTML format and it comes out fine.  Hope this helps.

     

     



    what someone should do is just upload their spreadsheet to a file sharing place like sendspace and then post a link in the forum so anyone can download it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lou4062:

    Jsan,

    I have tried different ways to post mine but no luck.  What I do, to get the statfox sheet on my spreadsheet is to highlight and copy the game you want.  Then, when you go to paste it on the spreadsheet, I have to "paste special" then I click HTML format and it comes out fine.  Hope this helps.

     

     



    what someone should do is just upload their spreadsheet to a file sharing place like sendspace and then post a link in the forum so anyone can download it.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 3:10 PM ET #494

    I dont understand the difficulty of pasting into excel.  It is mind boggling.  For those that cant perform a simple copy/paste...

    1)Go to the Rutgers/Army extended matchup on statfox

    2)Scroll down to the bottom of the page, the second to last chart is labeled "Team Statistics"

    3)At the bottom right corner of the chart you will see the number "14.7", it is at the intersection of the row labeled "def home games" and the column "YPPT"

    4)Place your cursor just to the right of the 14.7

    5)Press and hold the left mouse button

    6)Do not release the mouse button till your cursor is just to the left of the word "Rutgers"

    7)Copy highlight text (Ctrl+C)

    8)Open excel

    9)Paste text (Ctrl V)  (no paste special required)

    10)Take computer proficiency class at local community college. 

    Holy s**t people...
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    I dont understand the difficulty of pasting into excel.  It is mind boggling.  For those that cant perform a simple copy/paste...

    1)Go to the Rutgers/Army extended matchup on statfox

    2)Scroll down to the bottom of the page, the second to last chart is labeled "Team Statistics"

    3)At the bottom right corner of the chart you will see the number "14.7", it is at the intersection of the row labeled "def home games" and the column "YPPT"

    4)Place your cursor just to the right of the 14.7

    5)Press and hold the left mouse button

    6)Do not release the mouse button till your cursor is just to the left of the word "Rutgers"

    7)Copy highlight text (Ctrl+C)

    8)Open excel

    9)Paste text (Ctrl V)  (no paste special required)

    10)Take computer proficiency class at local community college. 

    Holy s**t people...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 3:12 PM ET #495

    Awesome idea, willowtip.
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    Awesome idea, willowtip.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 3:25 PM ET #496

    Ok I am looking at the NO Miami game and even though your numbers say one this what about Injuries?
    Miami has secondary QB up against Brees?  How can your formula account for that?  Did I miss some thing?
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    Ok I am looking at the NO Miami game and even though your numbers say one this what about Injuries?
    Miami has secondary QB up against Brees?  How can your formula account for that?  Did I miss some thing?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 3:27 PM ET #497

    Gotcha there ncsutodd .... Thats why I cant understand where all the YDS differentials are being produced ... isnt everyone pulling the same data for yds ??

    Rutgers #'s

    YDS Rush

    158.8     191.7

    YDS Pass

    192.3225.3

    YPPT

    1212.7

                   

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    Gotcha there ncsutodd .... Thats why I cant understand where all the YDS differentials are being produced ... isnt everyone pulling the same data for yds ??

    Rutgers #'s

    YDS Rush

    158.8     191.7

    YDS Pass

    192.3225.3

    YPPT

    1212.7

                   

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 3:38 PM ET #498

    Quote Originally Posted by ncsutodd1193:

    I dont understand the difficulty of pasting into excel.  It is mind boggling.  For those that cant perform a simple copy/paste...

    1)Go to the Rutgers/Army extended matchup on statfox

    2)Scroll down to the bottom of the page, the second to last chart is labeled "Team Statistics"

    3)At the bottom right corner of the chart you will see the number "14.7", it is at the intersection of the row labeled "def home games" and the column "YPPT"

    4)Place your cursor just to the right of the 14.7

    5)Press and hold the left mouse button

    6)Do not release the mouse button till your cursor is just to the left of the word "Rutgers"

    7)Copy highlight text (Ctrl+C)

    8)Open excel

    9)Paste text (Ctrl V)  (no paste special required)

    10)Take computer proficiency class at local community college. 

    Holy s**t people...


    Yea I know how to copy and paste but when I paste all the numbers are in one cell. what am I doing wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ncsutodd1193:

    I dont understand the difficulty of pasting into excel.  It is mind boggling.  For those that cant perform a simple copy/paste...

    1)Go to the Rutgers/Army extended matchup on statfox

    2)Scroll down to the bottom of the page, the second to last chart is labeled "Team Statistics"

    3)At the bottom right corner of the chart you will see the number "14.7", it is at the intersection of the row labeled "def home games" and the column "YPPT"

    4)Place your cursor just to the right of the 14.7

    5)Press and hold the left mouse button

    6)Do not release the mouse button till your cursor is just to the left of the word "Rutgers"

    7)Copy highlight text (Ctrl+C)

    8)Open excel

    9)Paste text (Ctrl V)  (no paste special required)

    10)Take computer proficiency class at local community college. 

    Holy s**t people...


    Yea I know how to copy and paste but when I paste all the numbers are in one cell. what am I doing wrong?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 3:54 PM ET #499

    rm2673 ... Are you using the info from where ncsu said to get from ... Use that instead of the individual team stats .... copy/paste and whammo its there ....

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    rm2673 ... Are you using the info from where ncsu said to get from ... Use that instead of the individual team stats .... copy/paste and whammo its there ....

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 4:03 PM ET #500

    Hi Roughshod.  I like your model, and I've played around with your numbers and formulas a little.  Can you explain how you came up with your final calculations a little clearer?  It appears to me that the SOS isn't properly accounted for since you can get the same score no matter what number you plug in there.
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    Hi Roughshod.  I like your model, and I've played around with your numbers and formulas a little.  Can you explain how you came up with your final calculations a little clearer?  It appears to me that the SOS isn't properly accounted for since you can get the same score no matter what number you plug in there.
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