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    PuckHog
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2009 - 6:37 PM ET #126

    Hit 3-4 last night,lost a 4 teamer by 2 1/2 pts but cashed a little as i wheeled a 123 124 134 234 parlay on all 4 picks for 2.00 each,was desperate to cash something.
         Here is some     for u tonight on your picks.....Go 3-0 my friend and upright your ship.
     
     and 3 bags for u to carry your cash.
       
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    Hit 3-4 last night,lost a 4 teamer by 2 1/2 pts but cashed a little as i wheeled a 123 124 134 234 parlay on all 4 picks for 2.00 each,was desperate to cash something.
         Here is some     for u tonight on your picks.....Go 3-0 my friend and upright your ship.
     
     and 3 bags for u to carry your cash.
       
     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2009 - 1:50 PM ET #127

    Hi
       I'm taking Pitt - 1 1/2   +190    over Leafs
     
    note: if Crosby plays 
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    Hi
       I'm taking Pitt - 1 1/2   +190    over Leafs
     
    note: if Crosby plays 
     
    SteelCash
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2009 - 2:13 PM ET #128

    Utah St -4.5 $60      L
    LSU -11.5 $10         L
    Utah -20 $20           L
    Vandy 1st half +5.5 $10 L
    Min +3 $5               L
    UCLA -4.5 $5          L
    Vill/W.Vir u138.5 $5 L
    W.Vir -3.5 $5           W
    Butler -13 $5            W
    Bos/Dal o195 $6      L
    Dal +3.5 $6             L
    Atl +3 $5                 W
    Hou -13.5 $5           L
    Port +3 $6               L
    Chi -4 $6                 L
    SAS -7 $5               L
    Phi -11 $5               L
    OKC +12 $5            L
    Orlando -7 $5           L
    LAL -1 $5                L
    NO +6.5 $5             L
    Mil -4.5 $5               W
    Charlotte -7.5 $5      W
    Cle -8.5 $5              W
    NY +4.5 $5             W
    OKC/LAL o218.5 $5 L
    LAL -12.5 $5            L
    NY/GS o232 $5        W
    Dal -11 $5                W
    Tor -3 $5                  W
    NO +3 $5                 L
    Mil +6 $5                 W
    Utah/GS o223 $5      L
    LAL/Cle o205 $5       L
    Utah +1 $5               L
    Sac +6.5 $5             W
    Port -8 $5                 L
    Orlando -11 $5          W
    Mia -7 $5                  L
    LAL +5 $5                W
    Bos -7 $5                 L
    Tulane/Marshall u134 $15 L
    Tulane +6.5 $15         W
    E. Mich/Ohio u124.5 $15 W
    Ohio -16.5 $15           L
    Tor +1.5 $75              L
    Pitt/Depaul u136 $15  L
    Depaul +17.5 $15       L
    Ball St +3.5 $15         L
    GS/Pho o113.5 2H $39 L
    Utah/Sac u110.5 2H $39 L
    Tor +2.5 $6                L
     
    Here are my latest results on my wagers.  As you can see, I clearly am doing something wrong.  I could do better by flipping a fucking coin.  WTF
     
     
     
     
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    Utah St -4.5 $60      L
    LSU -11.5 $10         L
    Utah -20 $20           L
    Vandy 1st half +5.5 $10 L
    Min +3 $5               L
    UCLA -4.5 $5          L
    Vill/W.Vir u138.5 $5 L
    W.Vir -3.5 $5           W
    Butler -13 $5            W
    Bos/Dal o195 $6      L
    Dal +3.5 $6             L
    Atl +3 $5                 W
    Hou -13.5 $5           L
    Port +3 $6               L
    Chi -4 $6                 L
    SAS -7 $5               L
    Phi -11 $5               L
    OKC +12 $5            L
    Orlando -7 $5           L
    LAL -1 $5                L
    NO +6.5 $5             L
    Mil -4.5 $5               W
    Charlotte -7.5 $5      W
    Cle -8.5 $5              W
    NY +4.5 $5             W
    OKC/LAL o218.5 $5 L
    LAL -12.5 $5            L
    NY/GS o232 $5        W
    Dal -11 $5                W
    Tor -3 $5                  W
    NO +3 $5                 L
    Mil +6 $5                 W
    Utah/GS o223 $5      L
    LAL/Cle o205 $5       L
    Utah +1 $5               L
    Sac +6.5 $5             W
    Port -8 $5                 L
    Orlando -11 $5          W
    Mia -7 $5                  L
    LAL +5 $5                W
    Bos -7 $5                 L
    Tulane/Marshall u134 $15 L
    Tulane +6.5 $15         W
    E. Mich/Ohio u124.5 $15 W
    Ohio -16.5 $15           L
    Tor +1.5 $75              L
    Pitt/Depaul u136 $15  L
    Depaul +17.5 $15       L
    Ball St +3.5 $15         L
    GS/Pho o113.5 2H $39 L
    Utah/Sac u110.5 2H $39 L
    Tor +2.5 $6                L
     
    Here are my latest results on my wagers.  As you can see, I clearly am doing something wrong.  I could do better by flipping a fucking coin.  WTF
     
     
     
     
     
    SteelCash
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2009 - 2:28 PM ET #129

    I'm 3-18 in my L21.
     
    Here's more...
     
    Tor/NO o183.5 $6  W
    NO -2.5 $6            W
    Port/OKC o199 $6 L
    Port -6 $6              L
    Bos/NY o208 $13  W
    NY +6.5 $6           L
    Orlando -6 $6         L
    LAC/Mem u202.5 $6   L
    Den/Wash u205 $6   L
    Bos/NY u208 $6    L
    Den -8.5 $6           W
    Tor +2.5 $6           L
    Fres/Haw o133 $13 L
    Fres +2.5 $13        L
    Gonzaga -10 $26    W
    Dal/Utah o208 $13  L
    Ind/Phi o216.5 $13  L
    LAL/Bos o205.5 $13 W
    LAL +7 $13             W
    Phoenix -4 $8.13     L
    Hou/Mem u195.5 $8.13 L
    Hou -6.5 $8.13         L
    Chi/NO o186.5 $8.13 W
    NO -2 $8.13             L
    Atl/Min u200 $8.13   W
    Min -2 $8.13             L
    Den/OKC u210 $8.13 L
    Bos -3.5 $8.13           L
    Min/Ind o219.5 $8.13  W
    Min +4 $8.13             W
    Tor/Cle o194.5 $8.13  L
    SAS/Den o199 $8.13 W
    Den -5.5 $8.13          W
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    I'm 3-18 in my L21.
     
    Here's more...
     
    Tor/NO o183.5 $6  W
    NO -2.5 $6            W
    Port/OKC o199 $6 L
    Port -6 $6              L
    Bos/NY o208 $13  W
    NY +6.5 $6           L
    Orlando -6 $6         L
    LAC/Mem u202.5 $6   L
    Den/Wash u205 $6   L
    Bos/NY u208 $6    L
    Den -8.5 $6           W
    Tor +2.5 $6           L
    Fres/Haw o133 $13 L
    Fres +2.5 $13        L
    Gonzaga -10 $26    W
    Dal/Utah o208 $13  L
    Ind/Phi o216.5 $13  L
    LAL/Bos o205.5 $13 W
    LAL +7 $13             W
    Phoenix -4 $8.13     L
    Hou/Mem u195.5 $8.13 L
    Hou -6.5 $8.13         L
    Chi/NO o186.5 $8.13 W
    NO -2 $8.13             L
    Atl/Min u200 $8.13   W
    Min -2 $8.13             L
    Den/OKC u210 $8.13 L
    Bos -3.5 $8.13           L
    Min/Ind o219.5 $8.13  W
    Min +4 $8.13             W
    Tor/Cle o194.5 $8.13  L
    SAS/Den o199 $8.13 W
    Den -5.5 $8.13          W
     
    SteelCash
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2009 - 2:39 PM ET #130

    I am 29-56 in my L85 for a 34.12% clip.   I think I need to go back to the drawing board. 
     
    I have one play today...
     
    I'm taking Duke and giving the 7.  I have $100.74 in my account.  A little while back I had well over $1000. 
     
    I'll be placing $5 wagers and hopefully I can build the bank up a little.  I am now very depressed, but I'm just gonna push on.  What else can I do at this point? 
     
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    I am 29-56 in my L85 for a 34.12% clip.   I think I need to go back to the drawing board. 
     
    I have one play today...
     
    I'm taking Duke and giving the 7.  I have $100.74 in my account.  A little while back I had well over $1000. 
     
    I'll be placing $5 wagers and hopefully I can build the bank up a little.  I am now very depressed, but I'm just gonna push on.  What else can I do at this point? 
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2009 - 3:26 PM ET #131

    My goal is to get to $125 right now as I'm completely restructuring my units and goals.  I'm so fucking pissed off right now...
     
    I added Illinois St +1 for $5.  That is now my standard unit.
     
    Final card: Duke -7, Illinois St +1... 1u each
     
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    My goal is to get to $125 right now as I'm completely restructuring my units and goals.  I'm so fucking pissed off right now...
     
    I added Illinois St +1 for $5.  That is now my standard unit.
     
    Final card: Duke -7, Illinois St +1... 1u each
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2009 - 3:52 PM ET #132

    I suggest to try a system like John morrison system  or other succesful betting systems to make the kind of money you would like then your chances will improve by 110 percent.  I'm following john morrison system and betting 5 percent of my bankroll and slowly decreasing it too 2 percent. I will let everyone know what level I make it up too. starting out with 20.00 being level 1 and 40.00 being level 2. I'm also using the labaurche method. goodluck to everyone.

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    I suggest to try a system like John morrison system  or other succesful betting systems to make the kind of money you would like then your chances will improve by 110 percent.  I'm following john morrison system and betting 5 percent of my bankroll and slowly decreasing it too 2 percent. I will let everyone know what level I make it up too. starting out with 20.00 being level 1 and 40.00 being level 2. I'm also using the labaurche method. goodluck to everyone.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2009 - 7:35 PM ET #133

    Thats too bad to hear about your streak, i have only used them for 3 days, but they are 4-0 so far so good and the picks are FREE. We played Valp-3, stl+11, Stan/Cal Over146, and 2day Temple-1.
    I don't follow college hoops and NBA is MY sport so until that resumes I am using him.
     
    Do a search for Vegas Elite Sports Investments in Google, signup to have the picks emailed to you, they are free so what the hell.
     
    Good Luck.
     
     
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    Thats too bad to hear about your streak, i have only used them for 3 days, but they are 4-0 so far so good and the picks are FREE. We played Valp-3, stl+11, Stan/Cal Over146, and 2day Temple-1.
    I don't follow college hoops and NBA is MY sport so until that resumes I am using him.
     
    Do a search for Vegas Elite Sports Investments in Google, signup to have the picks emailed to you, they are free so what the hell.
     
    Good Luck.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2009 - 10:18 PM ET #134

    YIKES........that is awful SteelCash...
                        Looks like you are pushing to hard.....me too.
                        2 weeks without a significant winner,but it is my own
                        fault! I picked 3/4 Sat and lost my 4 team parlay with
                        Penguins blowing a 2-0 lead in the 3rd and losing
                        6-2.They completely stopped playing.Cost me
                        160.00 parlay.
     
                Think I'm going to switch to a 1 unit 2-3 team parlay.
                        and a 1 unit single bet each night this week and see
                        what happens.
                    
                   I have 6 losing parlays by 1 pick for a total of  755.00
                    in possible winners in the last 2 weeks.
     
                   If picking straight up......16 out of  22  nhl and nba.
     
                  What a fool I am....got to smarten up.
     
                  Not betting tonight but I like the ov 5.5 in the MTL/VAN
                  game at 10pm.
     
                Let me know what you are going to do back at the drawing
                  board.Do you browse certain cappers on the covers
                  boards to help form an opinion on your selections.In the
                  last 6 weeks or so I have found some good guys,2 in the
                  NBA and 2 in the NHL that provide good info and opinions.
                I'm just learning college ball(so far I wish I hadn't)but looks like there is some excellent betting opps there.I want to be ready by March Madness.....but I better have lots of by then,so I am going to need some  between know and then to get back on a winning track.
         Keep the faith,we got to turn this shit around.
     
               
                  
               
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    YIKES........that is awful SteelCash...
                        Looks like you are pushing to hard.....me too.
                        2 weeks without a significant winner,but it is my own
                        fault! I picked 3/4 Sat and lost my 4 team parlay with
                        Penguins blowing a 2-0 lead in the 3rd and losing
                        6-2.They completely stopped playing.Cost me
                        160.00 parlay.
     
                Think I'm going to switch to a 1 unit 2-3 team parlay.
                        and a 1 unit single bet each night this week and see
                        what happens.
                    
                   I have 6 losing parlays by 1 pick for a total of  755.00
                    in possible winners in the last 2 weeks.
     
                   If picking straight up......16 out of  22  nhl and nba.
     
                  What a fool I am....got to smarten up.
     
                  Not betting tonight but I like the ov 5.5 in the MTL/VAN
                  game at 10pm.
     
                Let me know what you are going to do back at the drawing
                  board.Do you browse certain cappers on the covers
                  boards to help form an opinion on your selections.In the
                  last 6 weeks or so I have found some good guys,2 in the
                  NBA and 2 in the NHL that provide good info and opinions.
                I'm just learning college ball(so far I wish I hadn't)but looks like there is some excellent betting opps there.I want to be ready by March Madness.....but I better have lots of by then,so I am going to need some  between know and then to get back on a winning track.
         Keep the faith,we got to turn this shit around.
     
               
                  
               
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by garister:

    Thats too bad to hear about your streak, i have only used them for 3 days, but they are 4-0 so far so good and the picks are FREE. We played Valp-3, stl+11, Stan/Cal Over146, and 2day Temple-1.
    I don't follow college hoops and NBA is MY sport so until that resumes I am using him.
     
    Do a search for Vegas Elite Sports Investments in Google, signup to have the picks emailed to you, they are free so what the hell.
     
    Good Luck.
     
     

      Keep me posted on that if you would please.  Thank you.

     

    Puck... I'm just not going to wager on many games from here on out.  Tonight I have Texas -2 for one unit.  That's it.  I went 1-1 yesterday.  I was playing some team expert plays on Covers but it didn't seem to do well for me.  If you go to Covers front page, click on NBA, click on teams, and click on a team, you'll see the top 10 or 20 team experts for that team.  These guys are picking at a 60-70% clip.  I chalk it up to bad luck, because I had no luck tailing them.  None.  Due to Covers' policies I cant say where I got my Texas pick...

    I noticed you play alot of parlays.  How ya doin' with that?  I personally do not care for them although I will play moneyline parlays in NFL action occasionally.  Other than that I consider them a huge waste of money but that might be because I'm just not good at them. 

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    Thats too bad to hear about your streak, i have only used them for 3 days, but they are 4-0 so far so good and the picks are FREE. We played Valp-3, stl+11, Stan/Cal Over146, and 2day Temple-1.
    I don't follow college hoops and NBA is MY sport so until that resumes I am using him.
     
    Do a search for Vegas Elite Sports Investments in Google, signup to have the picks emailed to you, they are free so what the hell.
     
    Good Luck.
     
     

      Keep me posted on that if you would please.  Thank you.

     

    Puck... I'm just not going to wager on many games from here on out.  Tonight I have Texas -2 for one unit.  That's it.  I went 1-1 yesterday.  I was playing some team expert plays on Covers but it didn't seem to do well for me.  If you go to Covers front page, click on NBA, click on teams, and click on a team, you'll see the top 10 or 20 team experts for that team.  These guys are picking at a 60-70% clip.  I chalk it up to bad luck, because I had no luck tailing them.  None.  Due to Covers' policies I cant say where I got my Texas pick...

    I noticed you play alot of parlays.  How ya doin' with that?  I personally do not care for them although I will play moneyline parlays in NFL action occasionally.  Other than that I consider them a huge waste of money but that might be because I'm just not good at them. 

     
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    Hi Steel.....
            I'm on Texas AM ml...lol.....well 1 of us will win!
     
    Thanks for the info on the nba,I usually make my picks and then go to the experts page on the game and see the consensus picks to compare.In my final decision I go with my gut feel,which has sucked lately.
          I did have the over in last nights nhl Mtl/Van but of course I did not bet it....figures,eh!!!!!!!!!!
          On parlays,i have usually done well cashing a few over 100.00 
    which keeps me going for a few weeks or so.On the other hand I think i would do much better straight up.Counting last nights over,I am 17-23 in the last 2 weeks or so.I guess i could have been up quite a few units.In the long term outlook 1 game at a time has a better chance of winning.I doubled my bankroll in the 1st 10 days and the success went to my head,now back at 260.00,still up 60,but my frame of mnd has changed if u know what I mean;nothing like a losing streak to shake u up a bit.
            My parlay tonight:
     
                     Tex AM                   ml
                     St Petes                  -2
                     Lou Tech/N Mex   ov 136
                     Charr/Appst         un 154
     
                        1 unit to win  13 units
      
    My Str8 bet.......ED/PHX  ov 5.5   1 unit   
     
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    Hi Steel.....
            I'm on Texas AM ml...lol.....well 1 of us will win!
     
    Thanks for the info on the nba,I usually make my picks and then go to the experts page on the game and see the consensus picks to compare.In my final decision I go with my gut feel,which has sucked lately.
          I did have the over in last nights nhl Mtl/Van but of course I did not bet it....figures,eh!!!!!!!!!!
          On parlays,i have usually done well cashing a few over 100.00 
    which keeps me going for a few weeks or so.On the other hand I think i would do much better straight up.Counting last nights over,I am 17-23 in the last 2 weeks or so.I guess i could have been up quite a few units.In the long term outlook 1 game at a time has a better chance of winning.I doubled my bankroll in the 1st 10 days and the success went to my head,now back at 260.00,still up 60,but my frame of mnd has changed if u know what I mean;nothing like a losing streak to shake u up a bit.
            My parlay tonight:
     
                     Tex AM                   ml
                     St Petes                  -2
                     Lou Tech/N Mex   ov 136
                     Charr/Appst         un 154
     
                        1 unit to win  13 units
      
    My Str8 bet.......ED/PHX  ov 5.5   1 unit   
     
    Lets get the
     
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    Hey Steel, Sorry about your bad run. Keep plugging away

    A few comments. On your mentioning "The Covers Experts". The problem with tailing or watching the "TOP 10" guys is that they are based on the previous nights games, which most of the "TOP 10" won. So anytime you are looking at the "TOP 10" they are coming off wins most likely. and getting a group of 10 people who just went 8-2 or 9-1 the night before to do it again, ain't gonna happen much.

    One other thing I had to mention to all is looking at all wagerline/covers stats for ALL CAPPERS/ALL SPORTS, the best of everyone , the top 10 money, are all 53-55% win percentage. But guess what,  WORST GUY in all of covers is 48%. THE WORST capper out of 32000 cappers is at 48%, 2%worse than a coin flip. Nobody can get lower. It seams way harder to pick 47% winners than 55% winners (i just think tha't funny)

    SO the difference between the worst capper here and the best, over an extented period of time, is 4-7%.

    Let that sit with you awhile

    ONly way I see you can make money gambling longterm, over years,  is have low profit expectations, and try to scratch and claw you way to 53% plus, paying no more than 10% vig.

    (unless your a wiz at +ML lines in hockey and baseball)

    look at top capper lenny1516 , +126 units on 2000 bets, a 6.3% return on investment. And he is the best here (just using wagerline picks)

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    Hey Steel, Sorry about your bad run. Keep plugging away

    A few comments. On your mentioning "The Covers Experts". The problem with tailing or watching the "TOP 10" guys is that they are based on the previous nights games, which most of the "TOP 10" won. So anytime you are looking at the "TOP 10" they are coming off wins most likely. and getting a group of 10 people who just went 8-2 or 9-1 the night before to do it again, ain't gonna happen much.

    One other thing I had to mention to all is looking at all wagerline/covers stats for ALL CAPPERS/ALL SPORTS, the best of everyone , the top 10 money, are all 53-55% win percentage. But guess what,  WORST GUY in all of covers is 48%. THE WORST capper out of 32000 cappers is at 48%, 2%worse than a coin flip. Nobody can get lower. It seams way harder to pick 47% winners than 55% winners (i just think tha't funny)

    SO the difference between the worst capper here and the best, over an extented period of time, is 4-7%.

    Let that sit with you awhile

    ONly way I see you can make money gambling longterm, over years,  is have low profit expectations, and try to scratch and claw you way to 53% plus, paying no more than 10% vig.

    (unless your a wiz at +ML lines in hockey and baseball)

    look at top capper lenny1516 , +126 units on 2000 bets, a 6.3% return on investment. And he is the best here (just using wagerline picks)

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    "Puck... I'm just not going to wager on many games from here on out.  "

    probobly a good idea, the less picks the better chance of beating the 53% threshhold

     

     

     

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    "Puck... I'm just not going to wager on many games from here on out.  "

    probobly a good idea, the less picks the better chance of beating the 53% threshhold

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PuckHog:

    Hi Steel.....
            I'm on Texas AM ml...lol.....well 1 of us will win!
     
    Thanks for the info on the nba,I usually make my picks and then go to the experts page on the game and see the consensus picks to compare.In my final decision I go with my gut feel,which has sucked lately.
          I did have the over in last nights nhl Mtl/Van but of course I did not bet it....figures,eh!!!!!!!!!!
          On parlays,i have usually done well cashing a few over 100.00 
    which keeps me going for a few weeks or so.On the other hand I think i would do much better straight up.Counting last nights over,I am 17-23 in the last 2 weeks or so.I guess i could have been up quite a few units.In the long term outlook 1 game at a time has a better chance of winning.I doubled my bankroll in the 1st 10 days and the success went to my head,now back at 260.00,still up 60,but my frame of mnd has changed if u know what I mean;nothing like a losing streak to shake u up a bit.
            My parlay tonight:
     
                     Tex AM                   ml     
                     St Petes                  -2     
                     Lou Tech/N Mex   ov 136  
                     Charr/Appst         un 154   
     
                        1 unit to win  13 units
      
    My Str8 bet.......ED/PHX  ov 5.5   1 unit   
     
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    Hi Steel.....
            I'm on Texas AM ml...lol.....well 1 of us will win!
     
    Thanks for the info on the nba,I usually make my picks and then go to the experts page on the game and see the consensus picks to compare.In my final decision I go with my gut feel,which has sucked lately.
          I did have the over in last nights nhl Mtl/Van but of course I did not bet it....figures,eh!!!!!!!!!!
          On parlays,i have usually done well cashing a few over 100.00 
    which keeps me going for a few weeks or so.On the other hand I think i would do much better straight up.Counting last nights over,I am 17-23 in the last 2 weeks or so.I guess i could have been up quite a few units.In the long term outlook 1 game at a time has a better chance of winning.I doubled my bankroll in the 1st 10 days and the success went to my head,now back at 260.00,still up 60,but my frame of mnd has changed if u know what I mean;nothing like a losing streak to shake u up a bit.
            My parlay tonight:
     
                     Tex AM                   ml     
                     St Petes                  -2     
                     Lou Tech/N Mex   ov 136  
                     Charr/Appst         un 154   
     
                        1 unit to win  13 units
      
    My Str8 bet.......ED/PHX  ov 5.5   1 unit   
     
    Lets get the
     
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    I have Atlanta +9 for 2u and SAS -4.5 for 1u. 
     
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    Got get'em Steel ....    like your picks
     
    Neo The One....thanks for the capping tips,every little bit helps
                           to get an edge on the books.I am in research
                           mode this week
     
    My Str8 bet.......ED/PHX  ov 5.5   1 unit yesterday was a
     
     
    Taking a shot a wild parlay tonight  OKC +3 1/2  and over 195
                                                       LAC  +7 1/2
                                                       Atl  ml
                                                       Atl/Lakers ov  213 1/2
     
                                 1 unit to win  60 units
                                                   
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    Got get'em Steel ....    like your picks
     
    Neo The One....thanks for the capping tips,every little bit helps
                           to get an edge on the books.I am in research
                           mode this week
     
    My Str8 bet.......ED/PHX  ov 5.5   1 unit yesterday was a
     
     
    Taking a shot a wild parlay tonight  OKC +3 1/2  and over 195
                                                       LAC  +7 1/2
                                                       Atl  ml
                                                       Atl/Lakers ov  213 1/2
     
                                 1 unit to win  60 units
                                                   
     
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    Steel,
     
    i think you raise your bet too fast. you should keep it at a certain level untill you reach the specific goal.
     
    try starting with $250 and bet 5 a game. when you get to 400 or 500 bet 8-10 a game. take your time is my point.
     
    they are not shutting down big time sports any time soon,
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    Steel,
     
    i think you raise your bet too fast. you should keep it at a certain level untill you reach the specific goal.
     
    try starting with $250 and bet 5 a game. when you get to 400 or 500 bet 8-10 a game. take your time is my point.
     
    they are not shutting down big time sports any time soon,
     
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    EJD3......Thats the way Steel does it nice and slow,but the problem lately he is unable to pick any winners,so even though he is only risking 1 unit at a time his bankroll has been dropping.
              If u go back to the start of his post u will see it is a conservative approach,and can take months to move between levels.The frustration of continually loosing makes it harder each day to pick a winner(I know that feeling,on my own bad streak right now also).All we need is a couple of winners to get back to a better state of mind...  Maybe tonights the night!!!
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    EJD3......Thats the way Steel does it nice and slow,but the problem lately he is unable to pick any winners,so even though he is only risking 1 unit at a time his bankroll has been dropping.
              If u go back to the start of his post u will see it is a conservative approach,and can take months to move between levels.The frustration of continually loosing makes it harder each day to pick a winner(I know that feeling,on my own bad streak right now also).All we need is a couple of winners to get back to a better state of mind...  Maybe tonights the night!!!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJD3:

    Steel,
     
    i think you raise your bet too fast. you should keep it at a certain level untill you reach the specific goal.
     
    try starting with $250 and bet 5 a game. when you get to 400 or 500 bet 8-10 a game. take your time is my point.
     
    they are not shutting down big time sports any time soon,

      And you make a good point.  I went 2-1 tonight, but I've got a big hole to dig myself out of.  One day at a time... There's no giving up in me.  Missed on Atlanta tonight by just a few points.  That's fine.  I'll profit tomorrow again!  Even if just by a unit!

    Onward I march!!

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    Steel,
     
    i think you raise your bet too fast. you should keep it at a certain level untill you reach the specific goal.
     
    try starting with $250 and bet 5 a game. when you get to 400 or 500 bet 8-10 a game. take your time is my point.
     
    they are not shutting down big time sports any time soon,

      And you make a good point.  I went 2-1 tonight, but I've got a big hole to dig myself out of.  One day at a time... There's no giving up in me.  Missed on Atlanta tonight by just a few points.  That's fine.  I'll profit tomorrow again!  Even if just by a unit!

    Onward I march!!

     
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    I have to keep reminding myself that there is no hurry, like you said EJD3.  It's a constant struggle, but with my experience, I think I can do it.  Thanks again!  Gotta go now before my lady falls asleep!  Gotta go get some!!!  
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    I have to keep reminding myself that there is no hurry, like you said EJD3.  It's a constant struggle, but with my experience, I think I can do it.  Thanks again!  Gotta go now before my lady falls asleep!  Gotta go get some!!!  
     
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    My play tonight...
     
    San Antonio -1 for 1u
     
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    San Antonio -1 for 1u
     
     
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    Hope u got some Steel,even if she was asleep..lol..lol....
        Maybe that will help clear your head.
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    Hope u got some Steel,even if she was asleep..lol..lol....
        Maybe that will help clear your head.
     
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    NEO... When I look at the team experts I look at their records when they pick the games in which their team plays.  For example, one of the experts for Cleveland is Cujo2007.  And when picking the Cleveland games he is 61-33 with sides and totals.   However he is only 10-12 in his L22.  PILEDRIVER is one of the experts listed on the Lakers page.  His record is 47-18-3  when picking sides and totals in Lakers games.  I dont know how these guys can be this good.  But you can click on their record (click on "47-18-3") and it gives you a run down of the games, dates, what he picked, and the result.  However, when I tailed these guys, I lost my ass.  I think it was just a streak of bad luck.  I dont know how else to explain it. 
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    NEO... When I look at the team experts I look at their records when they pick the games in which their team plays.  For example, one of the experts for Cleveland is Cujo2007.  And when picking the Cleveland games he is 61-33 with sides and totals.   However he is only 10-12 in his L22.  PILEDRIVER is one of the experts listed on the Lakers page.  His record is 47-18-3  when picking sides and totals in Lakers games.  I dont know how these guys can be this good.  But you can click on their record (click on "47-18-3") and it gives you a run down of the games, dates, what he picked, and the result.  However, when I tailed these guys, I lost my ass.  I think it was just a streak of bad luck.  I dont know how else to explain it. 
     
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    I had the same experience...it seemd the minute I tail a hot capper he becomes cold as ice.
     
                             Lost again tonight Denver -1 1/2   
                                  Final  BULLshits 116-99  Denver took the night off after they scored 33 in the first for a 10 point lead.
     
    Going to throw darts at the sports pages for my picks on Saturday.
                              
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    I had the same experience...it seemd the minute I tail a hot capper he becomes cold as ice.
     
                             Lost again tonight Denver -1 1/2   
                                  Final  BULLshits 116-99  Denver took the night off after they scored 33 in the first for a 10 point lead.
     
    Going to throw darts at the sports pages for my picks on Saturday.
                              
     
     
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    HEY STEEL,  HEY PUCK          
    SO I have , like you, like many others, tailed experts and wonderered why it didn't make any money!
     
    My 3 year observation about tailing experts or anyone hitting at an abnormal / awesome percentage, 60%, 65%, 70%, is that IT JUST CAN'T  CONTINUE!!!!!
     
    IN my previous post , I mentioned that THE VERY BEST CAPPERS HERE, in their wagerline picks over months (years) all MAX OUT at 55 or 56%, Their is NO ONE with picks in the hundreds much over that , if at all.
     
    It shows me that its very possible to start posting / picking and go 20-3, or 50-25, or 47-18-3 (Piledriver).   But it just can't continue over many more picks/games.
     
    SO the "experts" like piledriver who start a season going  47-18-3, NOT ONE OF THEM WILL GO 47-18-3 the 2nd half of the season. OTHER GUYS WILL!!!!! GUYS WHO MAYBE WENT 18-47-3, or 33-33. They may get hot , and hit a bunch.
     
    The experts are the fringe mathematical players, the ones on the right of the bell curve.   If you take 30000 people, half will pick a winner, that's 15000 winners, half of those will pick winners, so 2 game winning streak , 7500 people- 3 ame winning streak, etc...., 3750, 1875, 937, 468, 234, 117, 58, 29, 15.....
     
    so 15 guys (on average) will go 11 in ROW!!!!!    should you tail them??????? ARe they the top cappers? DO you think tailing those TOP 15 out of 30000 will get more wins that loses?????   Of cource not. They are all about to mostly even out their record and someday will ALL AT BEST BE  55, 56, 57 percent.
     
    I read that the top VEGAS line pickers who work for the casinos hit at maybe 55-57% MAX (but that's over seasons, years, a VERY PROFITABLE proposition.
     
    Its mathematically a GIVEN that if you straight wager, not varying bet sizes, and pay 10% juice (or less) and can pick 53% winners , you will have a small profit. 55% and your making some money. 57% , you should consider yourself a gambling god if you really can do that over seasons, years and you'll make alot of money
     
    So back to the experts (and leaderboard winners) . We all notice them when they rise to the top . when they are mathmatically most likely to start evening their record out AND START LOSING MORE THAN THEY WIN for a while.
     
    SO here is my new thing. I feel it was epiphany understanding this stuff. . 
     
    First I had to solve the action problem. I now give myself permission to satisfy my ACTION cravings by picking wagerline picks. If I want to "bet" a bunch of games, I can, and risk no money. Until I hit 55% on all my wagerline picks (instead of 50%), it proves to me I would have lost money picking a bunch pf games and I should bet real money that way
     
    Then, i acepted that the BEST i possibly can shoot for is 55% (57 would be ideal) over a long period of gambling (which I seam to want to do as I'm in my 3rd year).
     
    So my goals have changed. I now keep a record and only play 1, maybe 2, occationally 3 games per day. Same bet size each (no more than 2% of bankroll per BET).
     
    ANd I've decided to still TAIL a few cappers. Until I am confident that my own picks will make me money. But I' work and parent so can't consistantly cap the way one should.
     
    In the office pools, their is a contest for pick you best play NBA. Their are a few their, chickenhawk for example who are on their 4th month of profitable picks, constistant each month to pick 55% or better. So I have committed to them. I only expect/hope for  55% from them , when they are now at 58%, 60%, 65%.
     
    Eventually , if they all picked for 100's of games , they would all come back to 55% at best, or lose it all back or whatever.  but I figure they have proven to be 60% cappers in the short /medium term, so when I chose one to tail , I am committed. They may lose for me in the short term, but more likely than not I will not have lost money doing it over time, and might just win some units.
     
    This is from a guy who would drop 100 to win 5 on big ncaab 20 point favorite on the ML just to in. (But you know, every now and then , the 20 point favs LOSE). Or lose a few units and then bet 5 or 10 units on one play to get it all back. Sometimes it did. SOmetimes, it didn't . All bad habits I have (mostly) broken
     
    SO good luck with all your future wagers, but think about the mathmatical implications to long term picking lines/games.
     
    PATIENCE, is the hardest yet most important quality a capper should have (obviously LUCK would be great but it ain't a quality and I don't seam to have anymore of that than anyone else)
     
    NEO
     
     
     
     
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    HEY STEEL,  HEY PUCK          
    SO I have , like you, like many others, tailed experts and wonderered why it didn't make any money!
     
    My 3 year observation about tailing experts or anyone hitting at an abnormal / awesome percentage, 60%, 65%, 70%, is that IT JUST CAN'T  CONTINUE!!!!!
     
    IN my previous post , I mentioned that THE VERY BEST CAPPERS HERE, in their wagerline picks over months (years) all MAX OUT at 55 or 56%, Their is NO ONE with picks in the hundreds much over that , if at all.
     
    It shows me that its very possible to start posting / picking and go 20-3, or 50-25, or 47-18-3 (Piledriver).   But it just can't continue over many more picks/games.
     
    SO the "experts" like piledriver who start a season going  47-18-3, NOT ONE OF THEM WILL GO 47-18-3 the 2nd half of the season. OTHER GUYS WILL!!!!! GUYS WHO MAYBE WENT 18-47-3, or 33-33. They may get hot , and hit a bunch.
     
    The experts are the fringe mathematical players, the ones on the right of the bell curve.   If you take 30000 people, half will pick a winner, that's 15000 winners, half of those will pick winners, so 2 game winning streak , 7500 people- 3 ame winning streak, etc...., 3750, 1875, 937, 468, 234, 117, 58, 29, 15.....
     
    so 15 guys (on average) will go 11 in ROW!!!!!    should you tail them??????? ARe they the top cappers? DO you think tailing those TOP 15 out of 30000 will get more wins that loses?????   Of cource not. They are all about to mostly even out their record and someday will ALL AT BEST BE  55, 56, 57 percent.
     
    I read that the top VEGAS line pickers who work for the casinos hit at maybe 55-57% MAX (but that's over seasons, years, a VERY PROFITABLE proposition.
     
    Its mathematically a GIVEN that if you straight wager, not varying bet sizes, and pay 10% juice (or less) and can pick 53% winners , you will have a small profit. 55% and your making some money. 57% , you should consider yourself a gambling god if you really can do that over seasons, years and you'll make alot of money
     
    So back to the experts (and leaderboard winners) . We all notice them when they rise to the top . when they are mathmatically most likely to start evening their record out AND START LOSING MORE THAN THEY WIN for a while.
     
    SO here is my new thing. I feel it was epiphany understanding this stuff. . 
     
    First I had to solve the action problem. I now give myself permission to satisfy my ACTION cravings by picking wagerline picks. If I want to "bet" a bunch of games, I can, and risk no money. Until I hit 55% on all my wagerline picks (instead of 50%), it proves to me I would have lost money picking a bunch pf games and I should bet real money that way
     
    Then, i acepted that the BEST i possibly can shoot for is 55% (57 would be ideal) over a long period of gambling (which I seam to want to do as I'm in my 3rd year).
     
    So my goals have changed. I now keep a record and only play 1, maybe 2, occationally 3 games per day. Same bet size each (no more than 2% of bankroll per BET).
     
    ANd I've decided to still TAIL a few cappers. Until I am confident that my own picks will make me money. But I' work and parent so can't consistantly cap the way one should.
     
    In the office pools, their is a contest for pick you best play NBA. Their are a few their, chickenhawk for example who are on their 4th month of profitable picks, constistant each month to pick 55% or better. So I have committed to them. I only expect/hope for  55% from them , when they are now at 58%, 60%, 65%.
     
    Eventually , if they all picked for 100's of games , they would all come back to 55% at best, or lose it all back or whatever.  but I figure they have proven to be 60% cappers in the short /medium term, so when I chose one to tail , I am committed. They may lose for me in the short term, but more likely than not I will not have lost money doing it over time, and might just win some units.
     
    This is from a guy who would drop 100 to win 5 on big ncaab 20 point favorite on the ML just to in. (But you know, every now and then , the 20 point favs LOSE). Or lose a few units and then bet 5 or 10 units on one play to get it all back. Sometimes it did. SOmetimes, it didn't . All bad habits I have (mostly) broken
     
    SO good luck with all your future wagers, but think about the mathmatical implications to long term picking lines/games.
     
    PATIENCE, is the hardest yet most important quality a capper should have (obviously LUCK would be great but it ain't a quality and I don't seam to have anymore of that than anyone else)
     
    NEO
     
     
     
     
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