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    makethempay
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    Posted: Jan. 6, 2008 - 1:10 PM ET #1

    thanks for your help
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    thanks for your help
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2008 - 2:05 PM ET #2

    cisco has a few which one you looking for
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    cisco has a few which one you looking for
     
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    I was waiting for someone to post something here. I'm a little fuzzy on this, but after some digging on other sites, I found an explanation by Cisco, and I jotted down some notes on what I found. Here are my notes:
     
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    MLB 5-run chase
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    -a team wins a game by 5+ runs.
    -wait 2 games
    -bet against that team for next 4 games
    -if team wins by 5+ runs in those 4 games, the chase is reset.
    That's as much as I know on that one. Of course, I guess chase means a standard chase betting pattern.
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    I was waiting for someone to post something here. I'm a little fuzzy on this, but after some digging on other sites, I found an explanation by Cisco, and I jotted down some notes on what I found. Here are my notes:
     
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    MLB 5-run chase
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    -a team wins a game by 5+ runs.
    -wait 2 games
    -bet against that team for next 4 games
    -if team wins by 5+ runs in those 4 games, the chase is reset.
    That's as much as I know on that one. Of course, I guess chase means a standard chase betting pattern.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2008 - 5:56 PM ET #5

    who is CISCO?
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    I wanna know what it is too, can any of the Vets help me out? What is it?
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    I wanna know what it is too, can any of the Vets help me out? What is it?
     
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    I told Cisco that he was needed here.
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    I have two systems that have been profitable. Both are a 4-game chase.
     

    Home Favorite Chase System
    Play on a +.470 team that has lost their last 3 or more home games as a favorite of -110 or more, and is again favored at home by -110 or more. I chase for up to 4 games.

     

    In 2005 it went 45-0 in a 4 game chase. (went 44-1 using a 3 game chase)
    In 2006 it went 40-0 using a 4 game chase.

    In 2007 it went 39-0 using a 4 game chase.

    2005
    45-0
    Gm.1.. 28  (66.66%)
    Gm 2… 9 (88.09%)
    Gm 3… 6 (97.72%)

    Gm 4….2 (100%)
    3 gm loss- Texas/TB -11.41 units Hit on gm #4

    2006
    40-0
    Gm 1... 28 (70.0%)
    Gm 2... 6 (85.0%)
    Gm 3... 4 (95.0 %)
    Gm 4... 2 (100%)

     

    2007

    39-0

    Gm 1…26 (66.6%)

    Gm 2…9 (89.7%)

    Gm 3…3 (97.4%)

    Gm 4…1 (100%)

     

    Heck, you could just stop after game 1 or 2 and make money.

     

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    I have two systems that have been profitable. Both are a 4-game chase.
     

    Home Favorite Chase System
    Play on a +.470 team that has lost their last 3 or more home games as a favorite of -110 or more, and is again favored at home by -110 or more. I chase for up to 4 games.

     

    In 2005 it went 45-0 in a 4 game chase. (went 44-1 using a 3 game chase)
    In 2006 it went 40-0 using a 4 game chase.

    In 2007 it went 39-0 using a 4 game chase.

    2005
    45-0
    Gm.1.. 28  (66.66%)
    Gm 2… 9 (88.09%)
    Gm 3… 6 (97.72%)

    Gm 4….2 (100%)
    3 gm loss- Texas/TB -11.41 units Hit on gm #4

    2006
    40-0
    Gm 1... 28 (70.0%)
    Gm 2... 6 (85.0%)
    Gm 3... 4 (95.0 %)
    Gm 4... 2 (100%)

     

    2007

    39-0

    Gm 1…26 (66.6%)

    Gm 2…9 (89.7%)

    Gm 3…3 (97.4%)

    Gm 4…1 (100%)

     

    Heck, you could just stop after game 1 or 2 and make money.

     

     
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    Rules for the 5 run chase

    This is a 4-game chase
    Wait for a team to win a game by 5 runs or more.
    Skip that teams next 2 games.
    Bet against that team for up to the next 4 games.
    If the team wins by 5 runs or more during the next 4 games, skip another 2 games.
    The chase ends with a win or four losses.
    Progressive bet to win one unit.

     

    After jumping all around and using the 2 gm,3 gm & 4 game combinations. I found that using the 4 gm system turned out to be the best after all.

     

    The biggest problem I had, other than stressful gms 3&4, was sometimes chasing a lot of games at the same time which is tough on the pocketbook.

     

    By jumping around to all three combinations I ended up at +99.32 units.

    Using only the 4 gm system throughout the season produced +153.77 units.

     

     

     

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    Rules for the 5 run chase

    This is a 4-game chase
    Wait for a team to win a game by 5 runs or more.
    Skip that teams next 2 games.
    Bet against that team for up to the next 4 games.
    If the team wins by 5 runs or more during the next 4 games, skip another 2 games.
    The chase ends with a win or four losses.
    Progressive bet to win one unit.

     

    After jumping all around and using the 2 gm,3 gm & 4 game combinations. I found that using the 4 gm system turned out to be the best after all.

     

    The biggest problem I had, other than stressful gms 3&4, was sometimes chasing a lot of games at the same time which is tough on the pocketbook.

     

    By jumping around to all three combinations I ended up at +99.32 units.

    Using only the 4 gm system throughout the season produced +153.77 units.

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2008 - 2:34 AM ET #11

    5/1
    +23.37 units
    6/1
    +53.39 ytd
    7/1
    +45.83 ytd.
    8/1
    +64.27 ytd.
    9/1
    +99.32 ytd.



    9/1
    1st Half +46.95
    2nd Half 94-6 +52.37
    +99.32

    4 gms.4gm2 gm3 gm4 gm
    net
    3284 5835
    1410 1211
    765 3859
    4472 4472
    9932 15377
    4 gms.

     

     

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    5/1
    +23.37 units
    6/1
    +53.39 ytd
    7/1
    +45.83 ytd.
    8/1
    +64.27 ytd.
    9/1
    +99.32 ytd.



    9/1
    1st Half +46.95
    2nd Half 94-6 +52.37
    +99.32

    4 gms.4gm2 gm3 gm4 gm
    net
    3284 5835
    1410 1211
    765 3859
    4472 4472
    9932 15377
    4 gms.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2008 - 2:34 AM ET #12

    Let me add one thing. A losing chase can cost you up to 30 units or more so to determine your unit wager take an amount you can afford to lose without losing any sleep. Let's use $150 as an example.

    150/30 = $5

    your unit wager should be $5.

     

    I lost quite a few units playing Interleague games. No more of that.

     

    The 5 run system starts from day 1 and includes all teams. I made a lot of dough on Kansas City and Washington last year.

     

    Good luck to all who use the systems.

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    Let me add one thing. A losing chase can cost you up to 30 units or more so to determine your unit wager take an amount you can afford to lose without losing any sleep. Let's use $150 as an example.

    150/30 = $5

    your unit wager should be $5.

     

    I lost quite a few units playing Interleague games. No more of that.

     

    The 5 run system starts from day 1 and includes all teams. I made a lot of dough on Kansas City and Washington last year.

     

    Good luck to all who use the systems.

     
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    One more thing. Very important.
    Both systems stop stop before the all star break. You need to plan ahead to make sure no games overlap into the 2nd half.
    Shut down for the year when the roster is expanded.
     
    A Club's 40-man roster is a list of all the players currently reserved by a Club at the Major League level. The Major League Rules permit each Club to reserve a maximum of 40 players (excluding players on the 60-day disabled list) at any one time. From  9/1 (September 1) through the end of the season the entire 40-man roster is eligible to play for the Club at the Major League level.

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    One more thing. Very important.
    Both systems stop stop before the all star break. You need to plan ahead to make sure no games overlap into the 2nd half.
    Shut down for the year when the roster is expanded.
     
    A Club's 40-man roster is a list of all the players currently reserved by a Club at the Major League level. The Major League Rules permit each Club to reserve a maximum of 40 players (excluding players on the 60-day disabled list) at any one time. From  9/1 (September 1) through the end of the season the entire 40-man roster is eligible to play for the Club at the Major League level.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2008 - 3:30 AM ET #14

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pg_wnj1gVNQ9ffDLhiD1zNA&hl=en
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    https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pg_wnj1gVNQ9ffDLhiD1zNA&hl=en
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2008 - 8:50 AM ET #15

    Hey Cisco,
     
    When I click on the link it says I don't have permission to view the sheet
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    Hey Cisco,
     
    When I click on the link it says I don't have permission to view the sheet
     
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    Try it again.
    I'm not familar with google docs. I imported the spreadsheet from Excel. Where you see 2008 dates I had game scores. Not important.
     
    Here is how I keep up with daily activities.
     
    https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pg_wnj1gVNQ_ZT90qLElbXQ&hl=en#
     
    Blue- begin the chase
    Green- winner
    Yellow- todays games
    Brown- loser
    gray- conflict with another team in a chase. The team already in a chase takes priority and the second team moves back a game or more. If two teams are to begin a chase on the same day I won't play that day and go against the winner the following game.
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    Try it again.
    I'm not familar with google docs. I imported the spreadsheet from Excel. Where you see 2008 dates I had game scores. Not important.
     
    Here is how I keep up with daily activities.
     
    https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pg_wnj1gVNQ_ZT90qLElbXQ&hl=en#
     
    Blue- begin the chase
    Green- winner
    Yellow- todays games
    Brown- loser
    gray- conflict with another team in a chase. The team already in a chase takes priority and the second team moves back a game or more. If two teams are to begin a chase on the same day I won't play that day and go against the winner the following game.
     
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    This link should have all of the dates & scores correctly. Sorry for the screwup.
     
    https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pg_wnj1gVNQ_SijRN7nkSAA&hl=en
     
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    This link should have all of the dates & scores correctly. Sorry for the screwup.
     
    https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pg_wnj1gVNQ_SijRN7nkSAA&hl=en
     
     
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    Good stuff Cisco but I'm a bit confused on the betting. In the 5 run chase, how many units do you bet on Game 1,2,3, and 4 if it gets that far?
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    Good stuff Cisco but I'm a bit confused on the betting. In the 5 run chase, how many units do you bet on Game 1,2,3, and 4 if it gets that far?
     
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    Progressive bet to win one unit.
     
    example:
    gm 1 is -125
    unit wager is $5
    5x1.25= 6.25
    win = $5 & chase is over
    lose = -$6.25
     
    lose gm 1:
    gm 2 is -175
    wager is 6.25 +5 = 11.25 x 1.75 = 19.68
    2nd gm wager is $19.68
    win = $5 & chase is over
    lose = -$19.68
     
    lose gm 2:
    gm 3 is -150
    wager is 6.25 +19.68 +5 = 30.93 x 1.5 = 46.39
    3rd gm wager is $46.39
    win = $5 & chase is over
    lose = -$46.39
     
    lose gm 3:
    gm 3 is -135
    wager is 6.25 +19.68+46.39+5 = 77.32*1.35 = 104.38
    4th gm wager is $104.32
     win = $5
    lose = $176.64 minus 35.32 units
    Chase is finished either way. (unlike a martingale system)
     
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    Progressive bet to win one unit.
     
    example:
    gm 1 is -125
    unit wager is $5
    5x1.25= 6.25
    win = $5 & chase is over
    lose = -$6.25
     
    lose gm 1:
    gm 2 is -175
    wager is 6.25 +5 = 11.25 x 1.75 = 19.68
    2nd gm wager is $19.68
    win = $5 & chase is over
    lose = -$19.68
     
    lose gm 2:
    gm 3 is -150
    wager is 6.25 +19.68 +5 = 30.93 x 1.5 = 46.39
    3rd gm wager is $46.39
    win = $5 & chase is over
    lose = -$46.39
     
    lose gm 3:
    gm 3 is -135
    wager is 6.25 +19.68+46.39+5 = 77.32*1.35 = 104.38
    4th gm wager is $104.32
     win = $5
    lose = $176.64 minus 35.32 units
    Chase is finished either way. (unlike a martingale system)
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2008 - 1:16 PM ET #20

    ooooooooh ok
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    ooooooooh ok
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2008 - 1:43 AM ET #21

    i'ma get that fashow
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    i'ma get that fashow
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2008 - 1:53 AM ET #22

    Cisco, will you be placing your picks again this year? I think I get your system but I'd like to double check it with someone once the season gets goin.
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    Cisco, will you be placing your picks again this year? I think I get your system but I'd like to double check it with someone once the season gets goin.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2008 - 7:17 PM ET #23

    Cisco have you are anyone tracked this back over time or just this 1 year, thx
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    Cisco have you are anyone tracked this back over time or just this 1 year, thx
     
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    I started this in 2005 and made money. I started to track the games in 2006 (see below) but I made a lot of data entry mistakes plus I  like to go to the beach and drink beer and forget about this sometimes. I stuck with it last year just to prove that this is a pretty good system.
    This is what I found at another site from 2006. At the time I was doing run lines as well.
     
    It's not hard to backtest. Just find a team from any year that won by 5 runs or more, follow my rules, and see how you do. I think you'll be surprised.
     
    () indicates the day we hit

    1) 4/08 bos . (1) +100 ML -100 RL*
    2) 4/08 cle.. (1) +100 ML +137 RL
    3) 4/09 nym (1) +100 ML –100 RL*
    4) 4/12 cws (1) +100 ML –100 RL*
    5) 4/15 atl.. (1) +100 ML +182 RL
    6) 4/15 oak (1) +100 ML –100 RL*
    7) 4/16 nyy (1) +100 ML +119 RL
    8) 4/18 bos (1) +100 ML +100 RL
    9) 4/18 hou (1) +100 ML –100 RL*
    10) 4/22 hou (1) +100 ML +130 RL
    11) 4/23 phi (2) +100 ML +100 RL
    12) 4/23 nyy (1) +100 ML +100 RL
    13) 4/23 atl.. (1) +100 ML +136 RL
    14) 4/26 oak (1) +100 ML +137 RL
    15) 4/29 sdo (1) +100 ML –100 RL*
    16) 5/4 cws (1) +100 ML +128 RL
    17) 5/6 tor.. (1) +113 ML +100 RL
    18) 5/6 stl ..(1) +100 ML +108 RL
    19) 5/8 tex .(3) +100 ML +129 RL
    20) 5/12 atl (2) +100 ML +100 RL
    21) 5/14 lad (1) +154 ML +000 RL~
    22) 5/15 cws (1) +100 ML +116 RL
    23) 5/17 oak (1) +100 ML +156 RL
    24) 5/18 oak (1) +100 ML +178 RL
    25) 5/19 lad (1) +100 ML +178 RL
    26) 5/21 cle (2) +100 ML –100 RL *
    27) 5/28 nym (1) +100ML +116 RL
    28) 5/31 phi (4) –1700ML* –1500 RL*
    29) 6/2 sdo (1) +130 ML +000 RL~
    30) 6/4 stl (2) +100 ML +150 RL
    31) 6/4 sdo (1) +100 ML -100 RL *
    ..…….....Total +1397 ML +300 RL
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    I started this in 2005 and made money. I started to track the games in 2006 (see below) but I made a lot of data entry mistakes plus I  like to go to the beach and drink beer and forget about this sometimes. I stuck with it last year just to prove that this is a pretty good system.
    This is what I found at another site from 2006. At the time I was doing run lines as well.
     
    It's not hard to backtest. Just find a team from any year that won by 5 runs or more, follow my rules, and see how you do. I think you'll be surprised.
     
    () indicates the day we hit

    1) 4/08 bos . (1) +100 ML -100 RL*
    2) 4/08 cle.. (1) +100 ML +137 RL
    3) 4/09 nym (1) +100 ML –100 RL*
    4) 4/12 cws (1) +100 ML –100 RL*
    5) 4/15 atl.. (1) +100 ML +182 RL
    6) 4/15 oak (1) +100 ML –100 RL*
    7) 4/16 nyy (1) +100 ML +119 RL
    8) 4/18 bos (1) +100 ML +100 RL
    9) 4/18 hou (1) +100 ML –100 RL*
    10) 4/22 hou (1) +100 ML +130 RL
    11) 4/23 phi (2) +100 ML +100 RL
    12) 4/23 nyy (1) +100 ML +100 RL
    13) 4/23 atl.. (1) +100 ML +136 RL
    14) 4/26 oak (1) +100 ML +137 RL
    15) 4/29 sdo (1) +100 ML –100 RL*
    16) 5/4 cws (1) +100 ML +128 RL
    17) 5/6 tor.. (1) +113 ML +100 RL
    18) 5/6 stl ..(1) +100 ML +108 RL
    19) 5/8 tex .(3) +100 ML +129 RL
    20) 5/12 atl (2) +100 ML +100 RL
    21) 5/14 lad (1) +154 ML +000 RL~
    22) 5/15 cws (1) +100 ML +116 RL
    23) 5/17 oak (1) +100 ML +156 RL
    24) 5/18 oak (1) +100 ML +178 RL
    25) 5/19 lad (1) +100 ML +178 RL
    26) 5/21 cle (2) +100 ML –100 RL *
    27) 5/28 nym (1) +100ML +116 RL
    28) 5/31 phi (4) –1700ML* –1500 RL*
    29) 6/2 sdo (1) +130 ML +000 RL~
    30) 6/4 stl (2) +100 ML +150 RL
    31) 6/4 sdo (1) +100 ML -100 RL *
    ..…….....Total +1397 ML +300 RL
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2008 - 11:33 PM ET #25

    Notice I only play run lines at +money.
    If you look at my spreadsheet you'll see just how many games covered the run line.
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    If you look at my spreadsheet you'll see just how many games covered the run line.
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