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    RalphyBoy
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2012 - 6:04 PM ET #101

    Northwestern (-2) for us fools that didn't play it sooner. Does this change the value much?
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2012 - 7:31 PM ET #102

    I'm playing a small bet on CLEMSON +7.5, bought the hook. 



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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2012 - 7:35 PM ET #103

    Changes from red to blue:
    NW.....-2.......7............8...........NW +5...+6
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    Changes from red to blue:
    NW.....-2.......7............8...........NW +5...+6
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2012 - 11:58 PM ET #104

    gratefulbets, please check your message. Happy New Year 2013!!!
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    gratefulbets, please check your message. Happy New Year 2013!!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2013 - 2:28 AM ET #105

    Quote Originally Posted by gratefulbets:

    I double checked those #'s above (calculated at 1am, haha) and found one error, corrected below, and I also looked at +3 and above net value for last year and this year. Here are the comparisons: #'s in parenthesis are mid way through bowl season.

                            Group "A"            Group "B"            "A" and "B" 
                                                                                      (same team)

    2011: +3>=   19-6  (11-3)          14-10 (8-4)           9-2  (5-0)     

    2012: +3>=   (6-10)  9 left          (10-4) 10 left        (5-3)  7 left

    2011: +7>=   12-3  (7-1)            10-6  (5-2)             5-1  (4-0)

    2012: +7>=   (4-6)  6 left            (6-1)  7 left            2-0  3 left

    Update:

    2012: +3>=   (6-10)  9 left          (10-4) 10 left        (5-3)  7 left
    12-31:           (2-1)    6 left           (2-1)     7 left        (2-1)  4 left

    2012: +7>=   (4-6)   6 left             (6-1)   7 left       (2-0)  3 left
    12-31:           (0-1)   5 left             (1-0)   6 left       (0-0)  3 left


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    Quote Originally Posted by gratefulbets:

    I double checked those #'s above (calculated at 1am, haha) and found one error, corrected below, and I also looked at +3 and above net value for last year and this year. Here are the comparisons: #'s in parenthesis are mid way through bowl season.

                            Group "A"            Group "B"            "A" and "B" 
                                                                                      (same team)

    2011: +3>=   19-6  (11-3)          14-10 (8-4)           9-2  (5-0)     

    2012: +3>=   (6-10)  9 left          (10-4) 10 left        (5-3)  7 left

    2011: +7>=   12-3  (7-1)            10-6  (5-2)             5-1  (4-0)

    2012: +7>=   (4-6)  6 left            (6-1)  7 left            2-0  3 left

    Update:

    2012: +3>=   (6-10)  9 left          (10-4) 10 left        (5-3)  7 left
    12-31:           (2-1)    6 left           (2-1)     7 left        (2-1)  4 left

    2012: +7>=   (4-6)   6 left             (6-1)   7 left       (2-0)  3 left
    12-31:           (0-1)   5 left             (1-0)   6 left       (0-0)  3 left


     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2013 - 3:23 PM ET #106

    3 team parlay...bam
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    3 team parlay...bam
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2013 - 3:34 PM ET #107

    Great Job!!!
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    Great Job!!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2013 - 4:58 PM ET #108

    Wow! Thank You so much Grateful Bets! 3-0 sweep today on 3 of our 4 biggest games, and hit the parlay! TYTYTY, and Happy New Year!
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    Wow! Thank You so much Grateful Bets! 3-0 sweep today on 3 of our 4 biggest games, and hit the parlay! TYTYTY, and Happy New Year!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2013 - 6:36 PM ET #109

    Quote Originally Posted by gratefulbets:

    WIN...
    UT......-10
    One down, and many more to go...I just flew back from MGM Vegas where I made my Bowl wagers...
    UlLaf -5.5...W
    Rice +1......W
    OkSt -17....W
    NW +2.5....W
    Mi +5.5 .....W

    3 team parlay: pays 6-1...W
    Rice +1
    OkSt -17
    NW +2.5

    CMi +175...W
    Glad some of you did well with these red/green higher value plays. The blue plays did not fair as well as last year but still did 7-4, or 8-4, depending on your line.
    I'm worn out with some of these close covers. Mi had a chance to win SU but just couldn't finish some sacks. I will also point out that Fresno was only 1/2 point too much to qualify for a red play, so I lucked out there. And CMi should not have been a play as I noticed I made a clerical error after the bet, so that was a lucky ML gift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gratefulbets:

    WIN...
    UT......-10
    One down, and many more to go...I just flew back from MGM Vegas where I made my Bowl wagers...
    UlLaf -5.5...W
    Rice +1......W
    OkSt -17....W
    NW +2.5....W
    Mi +5.5 .....W

    3 team parlay: pays 6-1...W
    Rice +1
    OkSt -17
    NW +2.5

    CMi +175...W
    Glad some of you did well with these red/green higher value plays. The blue plays did not fair as well as last year but still did 7-4, or 8-4, depending on your line.
    I'm worn out with some of these close covers. Mi had a chance to win SU but just couldn't finish some sacks. I will also point out that Fresno was only 1/2 point too much to qualify for a red play, so I lucked out there. And CMi should not have been a play as I noticed I made a clerical error after the bet, so that was a lucky ML gift.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2013 - 6:46 PM ET #110

    9-5 on games thus far
     
    1. Utah St
    2. BYU
    3. ULL
    4. Fresno St
    5. Central Michigan
    6. SJ State
    7. UL Monroe
    8. Rutgers
    9. Rice
    10. Vandy
    11. Ga Tech
    12. Iowa St
    13. Ok State
    14. NorthWestern
    15. Michigan
    16. Florida
    17. Clemson (added)

    Lowest Net "A" value

    1. Nevada
    2. Central Florida
    3. Boise St
    4. Duke
    5. Minnesota
    6. Texas
    7. TCU
    8. LSU
    9. Georgia
    10. Stanford
    11. Oregon
    12. Tex AM
    13. Pittsburgh
    14. Notre Dame

     

     

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    9-5 on games thus far
     
    1. Utah St
    2. BYU
    3. ULL
    4. Fresno St
    5. Central Michigan
    6. SJ State
    7. UL Monroe
    8. Rutgers
    9. Rice
    10. Vandy
    11. Ga Tech
    12. Iowa St
    13. Ok State
    14. NorthWestern
    15. Michigan
    16. Florida
    17. Clemson (added)

    Lowest Net "A" value

    1. Nevada
    2. Central Florida
    3. Boise St
    4. Duke
    5. Minnesota
    6. Texas
    7. TCU
    8. LSU
    9. Georgia
    10. Stanford
    11. Oregon
    12. Tex AM
    13. Pittsburgh
    14. Notre Dame

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2013 - 6:47 PM ET #111

    What do you have for the Playoffs this weekend buddy
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2013 - 8:26 PM ET #112

    Here is the list of plays, so far, including some line changes that had an effect on the net value.

    UtSt -10 W

    BYU -3 W

    ULL -6 W 

    Frs -12.5 L
          -12 L

    SJSt -7 W

    ULM -7 L

    Rut +2.5 L

    Rice +1 W

    Van -7 W


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    Here is the list of plays, so far, including some line changes that had an effect on the net value.

    UtSt -10 W

    BYU -3 W

    ULL -6 W 

    Frs -12.5 L
          -12 L

    SJSt -7 W

    ULM -7 L

    Rut +2.5 L

    Rice +1 W

    Van -7 W


     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2013 - 8:27 PM ET #113

    continued...

    GaTc +10 W
               +8 no play

    IaSt pk L

    Clem +7 W
             +5 no play

    OkSt  -16.5 W

    NW +2 W
           pk W

    Mi +5.5 W
         +5 P

    Fl -13.5 ?

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    GaTc +10 W
               +8 no play

    IaSt pk L

    Clem +7 W
             +5 no play

    OkSt  -16.5 W

    NW +2 W
           pk W

    Mi +5.5 W
         +5 P

    Fl -13.5 ?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2013 - 8:30 PM ET #114

    Quote Originally Posted by gratefulbets:



    BTW, while I was researching these games, I ran another "system" that I had recently used, and similar to my NFL picks...here are the picks:

    UtSt  W
    CMi  W
    Cin   W
    Bay  W
    Rice  W
    Syr   W
    Van  W
    Tulsa  W
    Stan  W
    ArSt

    Only Tulsa is conflicting with a system pick, but it's a blue pick. It will be interesting to see if the remaining picks do as well.
    GL
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    BTW, while I was researching these games, I ran another "system" that I had recently used, and similar to my NFL picks...here are the picks:

    UtSt  W
    CMi  W
    Cin   W
    Bay  W
    Rice  W
    Syr   W
    Van  W
    Tulsa  W
    Stan  W
    ArSt

    Only Tulsa is conflicting with a system pick, but it's a blue pick. It will be interesting to see if the remaining picks do as well.
    GL
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2013 - 8:34 PM ET #115

    that NFL system you utulized then for cfb has been undefeated!!!awesome job!!!TY!!
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    that NFL system you utulized then for cfb has been undefeated!!!awesome job!!!TY!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2013 - 10:48 PM ET #116

    glefkb01... remember, from my first post, the blue plays were not the highest value plays, and therefore, I recommended to not play any for serious money, only red and green plays. My only real bets were for $1k each, and the 3 team parlay that paid $1.2k, and the $100 ML that paid $175. I did play some of the blue picks for like $25, but that was mostly on that second system through internet book.
    I'm definitely putting a few bucks on ArSt, since that system is now 9-0. I'm going to review the rest of the bowl games to see if there is anything more to play. I did put a small play on NIl for +15, hook, because it looked like a high #...it's now half-time.
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    glefkb01... remember, from my first post, the blue plays were not the highest value plays, and therefore, I recommended to not play any for serious money, only red and green plays. My only real bets were for $1k each, and the 3 team parlay that paid $1.2k, and the $100 ML that paid $175. I did play some of the blue picks for like $25, but that was mostly on that second system through internet book.
    I'm definitely putting a few bucks on ArSt, since that system is now 9-0. I'm going to review the rest of the bowl games to see if there is anything more to play. I did put a small play on NIl for +15, hook, because it looked like a high #...it's now half-time.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2013 - 11:20 PM ET #117

    Also, as I'm trying to learn and share the nuances of this system with who's ever interested, the value of group "A" versus "B" has completely reversed this year from last year. That surprised me, but that is also the reason why I only play a team that has at least +7 value from both groups. 


    NFL playoff picks coming soon. 
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    Also, as I'm trying to learn and share the nuances of this system with who's ever interested, the value of group "A" versus "B" has completely reversed this year from last year. That surprised me, but that is also the reason why I only play a team that has at least +7 value from both groups. 


    NFL playoff picks coming soon. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2013 - 1:07 AM ET #118

    I wasn't as fortunate as you guys on the Michigan play.  Only got it at +4.5.  Not only that, I played 3 trifecta boxes at various tracks, hit them all, and still lost money.  Just not my day.
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    I wasn't as fortunate as you guys on the Michigan play.  Only got it at +4.5.  Not only that, I played 3 trifecta boxes at various tracks, hit them all, and still lost money.  Just not my day.
     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by gratefulbets]
    Update:
                            
            Group "A"            Group "B"        "A" and "B" 
                                                           (same team)
    2012: +3>=   (6-10)  9 left          (10-4) 10 left        (5-3)  7 left
    12-31:           (2-1)    6 left           (2-1)     7 left        (2-1)  4 left
    01-01:           (3-0)    3 left           (4-0)     3 left        (3-0   1 left       

    2012: +7>=   (4-6)   6 left             (6-1)   7 left        (2-0)  3 left
    12-31:           (0-1)   5 left             (1-0)   6 left        (0-0)  3 left
    01-01:           (3-0)   2 left             (4-0)   2 left        (3-0)  -------
                                                                      Pitts
                                                                      ArSt
    Because  group "B" +7 net value is now 11-1 for the season, I feel confident that these 2 games should be considered.
    GL
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by gratefulbets]
    Update:
                            
            Group "A"            Group "B"        "A" and "B" 
                                                           (same team)
    2012: +3>=   (6-10)  9 left          (10-4) 10 left        (5-3)  7 left
    12-31:           (2-1)    6 left           (2-1)     7 left        (2-1)  4 left
    01-01:           (3-0)    3 left           (4-0)     3 left        (3-0   1 left       

    2012: +7>=   (4-6)   6 left             (6-1)   7 left        (2-0)  3 left
    12-31:           (0-1)   5 left             (1-0)   6 left        (0-0)  3 left
    01-01:           (3-0)   2 left             (4-0)   2 left        (3-0)  -------
                                                                      Pitts
                                                                      ArSt
    Because  group "B" +7 net value is now 11-1 for the season, I feel confident that these 2 games should be considered.
    GL
     
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    Correction to post #109:


    "Glad some of you did well with these red/green higher value plays. The blue plays did not fair as well as last year but still did 7-4, or 8-4, depending on your line."

    Should read: 5-4, or 6-4 (Clemson +6, or higher).
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    Correction to post #109:


    "Glad some of you did well with these red/green higher value plays. The blue plays did not fair as well as last year but still did 7-4, or 8-4, depending on your line."

    Should read: 5-4, or 6-4 (Clemson +6, or higher).
     
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    Sorry...thought i saw you read, you play the "A" values that were lower.     NO worrries... SYSTEM IS VIRTUALLY FLAWLESS.   Had a great bowl season once again.  

    Only 2 more games to go

    Arkansas State

    and

    Florida

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    Sorry...thought i saw you read, you play the "A" values that were lower.     NO worrries... SYSTEM IS VIRTUALLY FLAWLESS.   Had a great bowl season once again.  

    Only 2 more games to go

    Arkansas State

    and

    Florida

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruin95:

    I wasn't as fortunate as you guys on the Michigan play.  Only got it at +4.5. 


    I feel you bro. I got my play in an hour before kickoff at 4.5 Didn't think line would move back in our favor

    @gratefulbets -  This system of yours is it for closing lines or best line you could find until the game starts?
    i.e. gatch & clem were both plays (and won!) at one point, but ended up no plays before gametime. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruin95:

    I wasn't as fortunate as you guys on the Michigan play.  Only got it at +4.5. 


    I feel you bro. I got my play in an hour before kickoff at 4.5 Didn't think line would move back in our favor

    @gratefulbets -  This system of yours is it for closing lines or best line you could find until the game starts?
    i.e. gatch & clem were both plays (and won!) at one point, but ended up no plays before gametime. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2013 - 12:05 PM ET #123

    glefkb01...it might have been confusing because the A group never did well, but B did. Remember, these last 2 plays are just from B group only, which has done well, but there is no guarantee!! But I like ArSt a little more because it is already a pick by my other system. 

    Air1...the plays are picked by the net value criteria which is a function of the team's gross value added to the line. So whenever the line moves to the number that creates the net value of +7 (or whatever number you want to use for your criteria) then it's a play. As some lines move during the weeks of the bowls, some games, like Clemson, become a play. The point of this system is that when a game meets the threshold and you lock in your position, you have the confidence that it's a high value play. 
    I don't play large bets online, only in Vega$, so once I fly r.t. to Vega$, I don't have the convenience of adding plays as the bowl lines change.
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    glefkb01...it might have been confusing because the A group never did well, but B did. Remember, these last 2 plays are just from B group only, which has done well, but there is no guarantee!! But I like ArSt a little more because it is already a pick by my other system. 

    Air1...the plays are picked by the net value criteria which is a function of the team's gross value added to the line. So whenever the line moves to the number that creates the net value of +7 (or whatever number you want to use for your criteria) then it's a play. As some lines move during the weeks of the bowls, some games, like Clemson, become a play. The point of this system is that when a game meets the threshold and you lock in your position, you have the confidence that it's a high value play. 
    I don't play large bets online, only in Vega$, so once I fly r.t. to Vega$, I don't have the convenience of adding plays as the bowl lines change.
     
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    I feel you bro. I got my play in an hour before kickoff at 4.5 Didn't think line would move back in our favor 

    Interestingly, that was not a high value play (+7) at +4.5. Both of my A and B groups had Mi at +2, and 2 + 4.5 = +6.5, not +7. Had you bought the line to +5, you would have had the minimum +7 net value, and you would have pushed.  
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    I feel you bro. I got my play in an hour before kickoff at 4.5 Didn't think line would move back in our favor 

    Interestingly, that was not a high value play (+7) at +4.5. Both of my A and B groups had Mi at +2, and 2 + 4.5 = +6.5, not +7. Had you bought the line to +5, you would have had the minimum +7 net value, and you would have pushed.  
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2013 - 1:20 PM ET #125

    Congrats on a wonderful bowl season. It's been fun tailing you.

    Ark St or Fla? Which of the two would you place higher value with?

    Thanks.

    Good Luck.
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    Congrats on a wonderful bowl season. It's been fun tailing you.

    Ark St or Fla? Which of the two would you place higher value with?

    Thanks.

    Good Luck.
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