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Quote Originally Posted by UHQB:

Exactly.  Easypics has been a MOOSE all year. His horoscope antics are horoscope looneys that drives you up the wall. Avoid him by all means !


My Man, Your$  aint doing the Job, 
You do need a seeing eye dog.

As posted ,tried talking you out of  Cata$trophic 
" Putting more money on Pats ML + Over "
 falling for such a weak stat as Brady being 7-0 vs Del Rio run Defenses.
I tried...
Better Luck Dumbass.
 
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Manning have played flawless all season, I don't see any reasons why his play won't continue and this is the best QB Seattle will face on the road since last playoff lost to Matty Ice. 

The biggest surprised for me is how well the Broncos def have tighten up and how well they gave played in the playoffs. Hats to fox/del rio. 


 
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Who has time to read these novels...... Unless you show some creativity like ex, Sammy, quad..... Keep it simple.....



I just think Seattle matches up really really well with Denver's receiving core.   I also think they will force turnovers from Ball and Moreno (any update on morenos status?)    Either way, nobody can run on this team.


On the other side of the ball, Denver's defense has been impressive..... Despite this, they will not be able to contain lynch as SF did for the first half..... This run game is too good, and as previously alluded to, Carroll will not abandon it.


I'll probably wager on Seattle..... But wait until the public continues to pound the broncos.

GL to all....


By the way, both teams played in the meadowlands this year.  Both teams smashed the giants in different ways.  Just something to bring up


Hey, it's not your cup of tea and it's cool.  It's not for everyone but I figure why not have an explanation to the madness that was posted.  Personally I like explanations for things happening rather than just taking everything for face value. It's like empty beliefs, without a reason behind them, it's only all face 

Plus you got other games you need to be tending to now???  
 
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I'm taking Seattle cuz they gonna prove y'all wrong this SB! BOL to y'all always may the best team win. I got so much faith in my Seahawks I'm gonna play the moneyline and the points. No whining if y'all lost. SF lost fair and square ref wasn't a reason they lost the game so give me this Seahawks got lucky.
 
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You guys are bull garbage.  Everything has to do with your money betting.  If too much money on Denver, then Denver will loose.  Just simple like that.  No more write up or analyze, okay? 
 
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Broncos players were dropping like FLIES especially in the 2nd half of that game last weekend.  Will those that are hurt be 60%, 70% 100%?  I know it's the SB, but will it hamper them?

Also, who do you think has the best special teams?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by easypics:

GRAB IT
While you can. . .

                                That's fine with me .

BRONCOS 31 SHAWKS 23
BOLA

My man Vali , GL with your pick ,be careful what you bring to $$$ $ Window.
This game will be close n' certainly not a SHawks blowout, 
as the 13.5 line you predicted vs Frisco


Seattle averaged at home 29ppg while giving up about 13ppg.  The games between SF&SEA were not even close.  So me taking 13.5 is not off especially if Seattle would turned the goal line plays and turnover into TD's.  Broncos 31-23...yikes.  What stat did you come derive that from?  Broncos were only able to muster 26 & 24 versus San Diego and New England's defenses the 22nd & 25th overall ranked units.  And you expect Denver, i mean Manning to score 31 on the #1 overall unit?  I don't think so!  Seattle has a championship defense period.  If San Francisco would have won, they too will destroy Denver.  The only way this game goes close or in favor of Denver is if Roger Godell and his band of terrible referees cater the game for Manning.  Wouldn't be surprise if the lights went out or something in the same vicinity.
 
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Seems like you couldn't take my whole post as exactly as that, as a whole.  Yeah he's my favorite player of all time and I'm not letting my love for a player or team dictate my judgement for betting.  I can't profess my love for a team or player?  Nowhere in my post did I state that because I love so and so that your team or that team/player sucks.  I actually bet AGAINST him this year because I know this team very well and when to go against them and why.  I'm stating facts that help betters here and usually when you follow a team or player, you tend to know what they're capable of and not capable of.  If you check my posts whether betting with or against Denver this year, I believe I was either 100% ATS or very damn close to it.  If at most I missed 1 game.  Not too damn shabby for a amateur handicapper don't you think?

Also I know the UH team too.  My post plays with this team was nearly 100% this year also.  I only missed 1 game and that was against Navy.    

So take what you want out of my post and not talk about the WHOLE thing and try to crucify me if you want.  Doesn't deny what I posted as being true.  

You state that Manning has never won in a postseason cold weather game.  You're probably right because I never checked it out.  But you also fail to state that neither has Wilson.  So who has the edge there?  If no one is clearly better than the other in such situation, then why the hell post it?  Useless and/or irrelevant information is not needed until such a time that it becomes relevant. Did you realize that the Superbowl is 12 days away?  I don't take weather seriously until it's a couple days before and that's not only for football's sake.  You can't take a meteoroligist's word for crap anything beyond that.  They're not mother nature nor are you, so prematurely stating it's gonna be hell is ridiculous.  

And yes in my post I did tell you to take a side.  I clearly said that DENVER WILL WIN THE GAME BY AT LEAST 7 and if somehow I'm wrong by the 7 points, it will be no less than 3 which COVERS the spread.  Either way that CLEARLY says TAKE DENVER giving the chalk.  Is that clear enough for you?

any analysis from a person who states "You state that Manning has never won in a postseason cold weather game.  You're probably right because I never checked it out. " probably has not fully analyzed the game in other areas as well and therefore their opinions as such should be discounted quite a bit, sorry no matter how many different ways you post it, Manning has never won anything in a cold weather-outdoor playoff setting and has only defeats to draw from for experience, to try to draw a parralell between him and Russell Wilson is somewhat useless because he is only a 2nd year pro vs Manning who is obv a long time veteran.

If you like Denver bet all you money on them and be done with it, posting 600 times in this thread isn't going to help you on the field where it looks like despite your meteorlogical wishes it is going to be cold as hell............

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/22/cold-temperatures-will-linger-in-new-jersey-through-next-week/
 
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Seattle and the under 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Da_Shouta:


any analysis from a person who states "You state that Manning has never won in a postseason cold weather game.  You're probably right because I never checked it out. " probably has not fully analyzed the game in other areas as well and therefore their opinions as such should be discounted quite a bit, sorry no matter how many different ways you post it, Manning has never won anything in a cold weather-outdoor playoff setting and has only defeats to draw from for experience, to try to draw a parralell between him and Russell Wilson is somewhat useless because he is only a 2nd year pro vs Manning who is obv a long time veteran.

If you like Denver bet all you money on them and be done with it, posting 600 times in this thread isn't going to help you on the field where it looks like despite your meteorlogical wishes it is going to be cold as hell............

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/22/cold-temperatures-will-linger-in-new-jersey-through-next-week/
 
I didn't read anything beyond you saying Manning has NEVER won in cold weather games because you're DEAD WRONG!  I literally just saw on ESPN maybe 10 minutes ago that Manning has WON in cold and windy weather games before.  While it has not been as many losses but he has WON.  So while I didn't investigate that stat, I can completely disregard anything else you have to say.  At least I can say I didn't investigate it rather than making crap up.  Don't waste people's time posting about something you clearly don't know anything about. 
 
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I'm leaning towards Denver as it stands now. Hawks need the 12th man too much and it'll show. They are inconsistent on the road. I think the Denver D isn't as good but it's good where it needs to be (the run) to be able to win this one. Denver is going to have enough plays up their sleeves to put some points up, 21-30 is all they need. Will the Hawks be able to match it if the Broncos D plays as well as they have been in the play offs? I don't think they can unless Wilson can connect on some long balls and make some third down conversions with his run. I respect wilson's ability but it's a lot of pressure and I think he'll make more mistakes than the experienced Manning will. I think it's just as likely that Lynch and Wilson drop one as Manning throwing a pic so I'm hoping that Denver manages the ball well enough the turnovers are equal or to their benefit. 
2 things worry me the weather and the Hawks getting to Manning. Can Denver's O line protect him long enough for receivers to get open and well enough to keep him from getting crushed? 
 
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Seachickens please

71% of the public on this site on Peyton already! 
Is anybody else surprised... 

I really think this defense is that good.
 Peyton got away with a few throws last week.. Seattle won't let happen. 
Even after 500+ yards only put up 26 points. 

No rush to jump on this though.. Maybe can get it at 3 by game time! Keep betting broncos people!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by WRECKEDEM:

Broncos players were dropping like FLIES especially in the 2nd half of that game last weekend.  Will those that are hurt be 60%, 70% 100%?  I know it's the SB, but will it hamper them?

Also, who do you think has the best special teams?

Holiday of course...him and Jacoby jones were on the texans special team before they let both go. Edge to broncos
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Xyberz:

 
I didn't read anything beyond you saying Manning has NEVER won in cold weather games because you're DEAD WRONG!  I literally just saw on ESPN maybe 10 minutes ago that Manning has WON in cold and windy weather games before.  While it has not been as many losses but he has WON.  So while I didn't investigate that stat, I can completely disregard anything else you have to say.  At least I can say I didn't investigate it rather than making crap up.  Don't waste people's time posting about something you clearly don't know anything about. 

well, they said it on ESPN so it must be true obviously....notice kids how he clearly left out the distinction of Manning winning in cold wintry PLAYOFF games, which he never has, keep clinging to your hopeless angles for betting the Broncos, maybe your bookie will offer you a reload bonus for March Madness after you torch your NFL roll buddy, good luck with your wagers, I just hope everybody else is thinking like you so I can get Seahawks at a decent ML
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Da_Shouta:


well, they said it on ESPN so it must be true obviously....notice kids how he clearly left out the distinction of Manning winning in cold wintry PLAYOFF games, which he never has, keep clinging to your hopeless angles for betting the Broncos, maybe your bookie will offer you a reload bonus for March Madness after you torch your NFL roll buddy, good luck with your wagers, I just hope everybody else is thinking like you so I can get Seahawks at a decent ML

Hey chief, your WILSON has NEVER won in a winter playoff game either!  If this game is in horrible weather, it'll be a first for Wilson so you can't say that he's gonna beat the garbage out of the Broncos.  If you even read what I posted earlier, this gives neither team an advantage so it's USELESS information that you're trying to babble on about.   The weather is projected to be cold, but like I also said to another guy trying to predict the weather, you both are NOT mother nature so you have no damn idea how cold, windy, snowy it will be let alone a meteorologist.  They track weather patterns and GUESS what it will be.  They don't have a crystal ball and the most reliable information they have can only be forecast at most a couple to a few days at most.  So what anyone has to say about weather right now means NOTHING until a few days before when it becomes more of a certainty. 

Unless you got something
 
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better to contribute, keep it to yourself.  I'd rather hear a Seattle fan just saying they wanna take their team because they love it rather than give false information.  
 
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Also apparently because Manning has won in "non-playoff" cold weather games doesn't mean that he will NEVER win in one.  Just like how all the stupid naysayers said that he couldn't get to a Superbowl, beat Brady, etc etc etc.  This guy has overcome more doubts than many recent players that I have seen.  

Does anyone else but me realize that Manning moved to a team that has some of the coldest weather in the country?  You think that's coincidental?  Denver gets colder than Seattle ever can get.  He could've gone to many better weather states instead but didn't.  It's called taking your game to another level and becoming the elite player that NO ONE in history so far can touch and this seems to piss off any other non-Denver fans.  Also funny thing is that he TURNED down Seattle and Pete Carroll because even he knew that Manning was something you NEVER pass on.  You Seattle fans must be pissed because they had a plane on the runway ready for him to go even though he already turned them down and told them not to come.  So this is a "revenge' things for the fans huh?  No wonder why you guys rage knowing that you passed on arguably the best QB ever and guaranteed future hall of famer.  But this isn't the reason why they have a chance to win the Superbowl.  It's because of the whole team.  It ain't a one man show.  The whole team will win this game, not just one person.  He can't pass it to himself, he can't defend the offense, he doesn't return kickoffs, etc.  




 
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Got to think Crabtree talks to Peyton. He offers Peyton  $10k for every time he torches the "Monkey" in a one-on-one situation. Peyton does it three times and then says to Crabtree "This ones on me"....LOL..... I hope it plays out
 
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Quote Originally Posted by peppto:

Got to think Crabtree talks to Peyton. He offers Peyton  $10k for every time he torches the "Monkey" in a one-on-one situation. Peyton does it three times and then says to Crabtree "This ones on me"....LOL..... I hope it plays out

Bro, I would love to see this scenario play out too but I don't think Manning and team is stupid enough to try and "pick" on Sherman.  He's one of the best and as loudmouth and irritating as he is, you can't deny his talent.  Luckily there are 3 other receivers on the team than Manning can choose, and when the time is right and Sherman does bite after feeling left out, then Manning can torch him.  But don't expect Manning to waste his throws towards Sherman's side of the field. 

I'm thinking to triple stack the opposite side of Sherman letting him have coverage only on one receiver and cross the routes of 2-3 of the other receivers to split up the defenders.  Not seeing too many long bombs down the field, maybe short throws for about 5 yards or so and letting the athletic receivers make more yards after the catch. 

Seems like the most logical way to play this game.  You don't usually see huge crazy passes until the end if it comes down to it like the NY/NE game with that miracle helmet catch that led to the game winning TD.
 
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Bro, I would love to see this scenario play out too but I don't think Manning and team is stupid enough to try and "pick" on Sherman.  He's one of the best and as loudmouth and irritating as he is, you can't deny his talent.  Luckily there are 3 other receivers on the team than Manning can choose, and when the time is right and Sherman does bite after feeling left out, then Manning can torch him.  But don't expect Manning to waste his throws towards Sherman's side of the field. 

I'm thinking to triple stack the opposite side of Sherman letting him have coverage only on one receiver and cross the routes of 2-3 of the other receivers to split up the defenders.  Not seeing too many long bombs down the field, maybe short throws for about 5 yards or so and letting the athletic receivers make more yards after the catch. 

Seems like the most logical way to play this game.  You don't usually see huge crazy passes until the end if it comes down to it like the NY/NE game with that miracle helmet catch that led to the game winning TD.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by DylPicks:

Seachickens please

71% of the public on this site on Peyton already! 
Is anybody else surprised... 

I really think this defense is that good.
 Peyton got away with a few throws last week.. Seattle won't let happen. 
Even after 500+ yards only put up 26 points. 

No rush to jump on this though.. Maybe can get it at 3 by game time! Keep betting broncos people!
 
agreed, but are you sure the public will inflate the line.... I was thinking the same, but the weather might actually lower the line.
 
I live in NY and we just got 14 inches, and although preliminary, next Saturday calls for snow.
 
 
oh, by the way, my father called and asked for action on Seattle lol.... He never bets but wants me to call it in. Has a good feeling. Called both games last week. Guy is on fire haha!
 
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Things to consider...

Take the Seahawks away from the 12th Man and they are nowhere near as explosive, as has been proven on the scoreboard throughout the season.

Denver's defense has come alive of late, holding opponents to an average of 15 PPG in their last four games.  The offense has still been very effective, producing an average of 28.2 PPG in their last five games.  Those same five games have gone UNDER the total.  

Seattle's offense has faded.  They haven't gone OVER the total since November.  Marshawn Lynch's rushing and their defense have been keeping them in games while Russell Wilson has become a game manager.  Seattle has given up an average of 12 PPG since the beginning of December.

Experience.  Denver has it.  Seattle does not.  John Fox is coaching his 2nd SB.  Peyton is playing his 3rd.  Welker is playing in his 3rd.  Standout CB Rodgers-Cromartie is playing his 2nd.  Champ Bailey, while he's never played in a championship, is a 15 year defensive veteran and a focused leader.  Russell Wilson is in his 2nd year.  Coach Pete Carroll is an SB virgin.  I see a lot of parallels between this game and last year's Baltimore (veteran experience) versus San Francisco (youthful emotion) matchup. 

Weather will be everything IMO.  In a dome or fair conditions, Denver takes this by 10+ points.  If the conditions are garbage - high winds, snow, sleet and / or bitter cold - Peyton will have issues no doubt.  However I do believe that the Broncos will get it done one way or another.

BAD WEATHER FINAL SCORE:  Denver 17  Seattle 13 

GOOD WEATHER FINAL SCORE:  Denver 26  Seattle 17 

So I guess it's Denver and the Under regardless...

GL to all

  

 

 

 

 
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I agree. Denver and under. First half under looks solid too, along with a prop bet of more points scored in the second half.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by vali31:


 The games between SF&SEA were not even close.  
What about  Frisco beating  Seattle on Frisco road  ? 
Not close ????
So me taking 13.5 is not off    ?   Really ?
Totally off ... Check final score : Result  speaks for itself . Frisco could of easily won that game . It was that close. especially if ? IF ?  CMON MAN !!!!    
Broncos 31-23...yikes.  What stat did you come derive that from? 
Fact that Denver's offense avg 36 Pts on the road does not sputter as Seattle's offense  does on the Road  or Home .
Pete Carol understands, Not you ? Carol also understands how Broncs D shut down Brady's offense last week , one of NFL's Top offenses,most seasoned and experienced playoff teams in the past decade.
Russel Wilson ? ? ?    lol 
Have you n' all Seattle Backers even considered how in his inexperience , Wilson will handle Super Bowl frenzy, the wait, the pressure of playing on the road compared to been there ,done that Peyton Manning ?
Broncos were only able to muster 26 & 24 versus San Diego and New England's defenses the 22nd & 25th overall ranked units.  And you expect Denver, i mean Manning to score 31 on the #1 overall unit?  
Stats you say ? ZZZZZZZZ Where was Seattle's # 1 D @ INDY ? @ Houston ?
Most are aware that Seattle is a totally different team on the road.
IMO , Indy happens to be the only team Seattle has faced that compares closely yet significantly  less potent than Broncs's offense . 
I don't think so!  Seattle has a championship defense period. 
I agree and they will find a Denver team that will offer the toughest offensive challenges they have YET to face  this year ON THE ROAD    
If San Francisco would have won, they too will destroy Denver. 
Destroy ? Wrong, San Francisco IMO would present more challenges and would be more likely to win vs Denver .
As posted from my winning playoff picks : From final 4 , San Francisco was the one team that proved to be most formidable on the road.
Again, Seattle on the road : It's indisputable, They're just not as good. 
Good Luck to your 31 - 16  Seattle Prediction.
" What stat did you come derive that from " ?  
 
 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by QMICH]

SO INDY SCORED 30+ ON VISITING SEAHAWKS ABOUT 4 MONTHS BEFORE THIS SUPERBOWL GAME?  GREAT STAT!  
Great Stat ? Far from it ...Common knowledge ,most are aware how Seattle is a less potent team on the road.
THOUGHT MAYBE YOU WOULD LOOK AT NE HANGING 30+ ON DEN ONLY 2.5 MONTHS AGO

Did'nt Have to ....Read my BRONCS- PATS post .
Hit UNDER + BRONCS - 5

BUT DENVER OFFENSE DOES AVERAGE 36 PTS ON THE ROAD VS SEATTLE'S 23...................WHILE THE DENVER D GIVES UP TWICE AS MANY PTS ON THE ROAD AS THE SEATTLE D 
LoL
Seattle on the road this year has faced only one team that resembles anything close to Denver's Potent offense :
That's Indy.
On any given day garbage happens...
Could there be an upset ?
Led by R. Wilson ? 
NOT
Led by Turnovers ?
Absolutely 

Do I love Denver - 2 ?
Hell Ye$
In any case, GL2U
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