Seattle at Denver (02/02/2014)
God....my head is spinning trying to pick a winner on this game. I can see Peyton having a huge game, but I can see Lynch and Seattle controlling the clock and keeping Manning off the field. Before the AFC/NFC title games, the books had this game slated at Sea -2.5 along with the spreads on the other 3 possibilities. Seattle was going to open at -4 vs. New England while SF/Den was slated as a pick. So what does all this mean? The 5 point swing on the projected line and the current lines seems to suggest Seattle is the value play? But bet against Manning? ......just a tough game to cap no matter how much you like either side.
God....my head is spinning trying to pick a winner on this game. I can see Peyton having a huge game, but I can see Lynch and Seattle controlling the clock and keeping Manning off the field. Before the AFC/NFC title games, the books had this game slated at Sea -2.5 along with the spreads on the other 3 possibilities. Seattle was going to open at -4 vs. New England while SF/Den was slated as a pick. So what does all this mean? The 5 point swing on the projected line and the current lines seems to suggest Seattle is the value play? But bet against Manning? ......just a tough game to cap no matter how much you like either side.
Xyberz your posts about the SB is so full of holes starting with pointing out a west coast team going east. It's for the championship son, that won't matter. Amateurish buddy .
Xyberz your posts about the SB is so full of holes starting with pointing out a west coast team going east. It's for the championship son, that won't matter. Amateurish buddy .
These are two of the very best teams in the league and their contrasting styles make for an incredibly intriguing matchup. Both #1 seeds, Seattle boasting (statistically) the best defense in the NFL. Denver will field (statistically) the best offense by a team and quarterback in NFL history. So where to start...
Seattle had the easiest schedule vs pocket QBs out of any team in the NFL! That truly helped their defensive numbers. At home SEA lost to Palmer (pocket passer) and Beat Kaep (30th passing attack) twice, They also beat Brees twice (who was awful on the road in '13: 12 TDs -9 INTs vs 27 TDs -3 INTs at home), and beat perhaps the worst collection of pocket QBs ever assembled; Henne, Fitzpatrick, Glennon, Ponder, Clemens...YIKES…Every D looked good vs those backup-quality QBs! On the road the Seahawks pass D beat Matt Ryan (with no Julio Jones and a hobbled Roddy White), Cam Newton (29th passing O), Schaub (who was dreadful in 2013 ), Palmer (split), Clemens, & Eli (who was atrocious this season & led the NFL in INTs). They lost to Kaep...and the one legit pocket passer Seattle faced on the road ALL SEASON was Andrew Luck, who LIT 'EM UP during a 4th QT comeback...in obvious passing situations! Don't get me wrong, The Seahawks DO have a good defense & secondary...but their schedule was so easy vs lousy pocket passers, they became a bit overrated. Truth is, Seattle plays a TON of Cover 3 (zone coverage) and that bodes well for Denver. The Seahawks D did not face an Offense, QB or receiving core like this ALL YEAR. Denvers' outstanding offensive play starts up front with an excellent O-Line and of course a brilliant quarterback that exploits softs spots in zone-coverage, burns teams that Blitz and picks Defenses apart pre-snap! Especially D's that repeatedly run the same formation (like Seattle's cover 3). Edge Denver.
On the flip, Denver gets a pretty good amount of pressure on QBs with a stout and underrated front seven. This does not bode well for Seattle, as they have struggled with pass protection all year including in the playoffs. Denvers' front 7 also gives the Broncos an very good Run D that's held teams to 64.5 yards a game on the ground in the postseason. Seattle's strength is running the ball, but their best chance to beat Denver is to pass on them. Russell Wilson’s passing game has declined however, completing only 58% of his passes and barely topping the 200-yard mark just twice in his last six games. Manning-led Broncos teams are 12-2 straight up and 10-4 against the spread in games they held opponents to 200 or less passing yards. Edge Denver
As for "Defense Wins Championships"...that was very true in yester-year...Teams with the better D have won 39 of 47 Super Bowls. Unfortunately for tradition...rules & times have changed. Teams with the better D are just 2-5 straight up & 1-6 against the spread the last 7 Super Bowls. The trend is now, teams with the hot QBs win championships. See last year's SB for instance: San Francisco and their #1 D vs Baltimore's 27th ranked D...with a hot Flacco. I'll take Denver's embarrassing array of weapons on offense with a hot Manning!
DEN-2
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These are two of the very best teams in the league and their contrasting styles make for an incredibly intriguing matchup. Both #1 seeds, Seattle boasting (statistically) the best defense in the NFL. Denver will field (statistically) the best offense by a team and quarterback in NFL history. So where to start...
Seattle had the easiest schedule vs pocket QBs out of any team in the NFL! That truly helped their defensive numbers. At home SEA lost to Palmer (pocket passer) and Beat Kaep (30th passing attack) twice, They also beat Brees twice (who was awful on the road in '13: 12 TDs -9 INTs vs 27 TDs -3 INTs at home), and beat perhaps the worst collection of pocket QBs ever assembled; Henne, Fitzpatrick, Glennon, Ponder, Clemens...YIKES…Every D looked good vs those backup-quality QBs! On the road the Seahawks pass D beat Matt Ryan (with no Julio Jones and a hobbled Roddy White), Cam Newton (29th passing O), Schaub (who was dreadful in 2013 ), Palmer (split), Clemens, & Eli (who was atrocious this season & led the NFL in INTs). They lost to Kaep...and the one legit pocket passer Seattle faced on the road ALL SEASON was Andrew Luck, who LIT 'EM UP during a 4th QT comeback...in obvious passing situations! Don't get me wrong, The Seahawks DO have a good defense & secondary...but their schedule was so easy vs lousy pocket passers, they became a bit overrated. Truth is, Seattle plays a TON of Cover 3 (zone coverage) and that bodes well for Denver. The Seahawks D did not face an Offense, QB or receiving core like this ALL YEAR. Denvers' outstanding offensive play starts up front with an excellent O-Line and of course a brilliant quarterback that exploits softs spots in zone-coverage, burns teams that Blitz and picks Defenses apart pre-snap! Especially D's that repeatedly run the same formation (like Seattle's cover 3). Edge Denver.
On the flip, Denver gets a pretty good amount of pressure on QBs with a stout and underrated front seven. This does not bode well for Seattle, as they have struggled with pass protection all year including in the playoffs. Denvers' front 7 also gives the Broncos an very good Run D that's held teams to 64.5 yards a game on the ground in the postseason. Seattle's strength is running the ball, but their best chance to beat Denver is to pass on them. Russell Wilson’s passing game has declined however, completing only 58% of his passes and barely topping the 200-yard mark just twice in his last six games. Manning-led Broncos teams are 12-2 straight up and 10-4 against the spread in games they held opponents to 200 or less passing yards. Edge Denver
As for "Defense Wins Championships"...that was very true in yester-year...Teams with the better D have won 39 of 47 Super Bowls. Unfortunately for tradition...rules & times have changed. Teams with the better D are just 2-5 straight up & 1-6 against the spread the last 7 Super Bowls. The trend is now, teams with the hot QBs win championships. See last year's SB for instance: San Francisco and their #1 D vs Baltimore's 27th ranked D...with a hot Flacco. I'll take Denver's embarrassing array of weapons on offense with a hot Manning!
DEN-2
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Denver's offense forced 14 pass interference calls, tied for most in the league & also drew 9 defensive holding penalties..another NFL high. Seattle's D was flagged for pass interference 13 times...tied for the most in NFL & whistled for defensive holding 11 times…again, tied for the most! Denvers was also one of the least penalized offenses in the NFL. Safe to say with Seattles' aggressive style & both team's penalty data, Denver will get more calls. SEAHAWKS HAVE MORE PENALTY YARDAGE -120
WR Decker has a nice matchup on the left side vs Cover 3 Zone or vs Maxwell 1 on 1. Decker Over 61.5 Yards & Over 4.5 REC
WR Doug Baldwin will continue his trend of being Wilson's favorite most reliable target. Baldwin OVER 40.5 Rec yards
RB Montee Ball has productively been cutting into Moreno's snaps. I Like that trend to continue. Ball OVER 32.5 rush yards
RB Moreno will have some opportunities as a receiver out of the backfield vs Seahawks cover 3 . Moreno OVER 24.5 Rec Yards
WR Harvin will be featured in the passing game including bubble screens to get him into open space. Harvin OVER 45 Rec yards
RB Lynch is not know as a receiver, but against Denver, there will be opportunities. OVER 13.5 Rec yards OVER 1.5 Rec
Denver's offense forced 14 pass interference calls, tied for most in the league & also drew 9 defensive holding penalties..another NFL high. Seattle's D was flagged for pass interference 13 times...tied for the most in NFL & whistled for defensive holding 11 times…again, tied for the most! Denvers was also one of the least penalized offenses in the NFL. Safe to say with Seattles' aggressive style & both team's penalty data, Denver will get more calls. SEAHAWKS HAVE MORE PENALTY YARDAGE -120
WR Decker has a nice matchup on the left side vs Cover 3 Zone or vs Maxwell 1 on 1. Decker Over 61.5 Yards & Over 4.5 REC
WR Doug Baldwin will continue his trend of being Wilson's favorite most reliable target. Baldwin OVER 40.5 Rec yards
RB Montee Ball has productively been cutting into Moreno's snaps. I Like that trend to continue. Ball OVER 32.5 rush yards
RB Moreno will have some opportunities as a receiver out of the backfield vs Seahawks cover 3 . Moreno OVER 24.5 Rec Yards
WR Harvin will be featured in the passing game including bubble screens to get him into open space. Harvin OVER 45 Rec yards
RB Lynch is not know as a receiver, but against Denver, there will be opportunities. OVER 13.5 Rec yards OVER 1.5 Rec
These are two of the very best teams in the league and their contrasting styles make for an incredibly intriguing matchup. Both #1 seeds, Seattle boasting (statistically) the best defense in the NFL. Denver will field (statistically) the best offense by a team and quarterback in NFL history. So where to start...
Seattle had the easiest schedule vs pocket QBs out of any team in the NFL! That truly helped their defensive numbers. At home SEA lost to Palmer (pocket passer) and Beat Kaep (30th passing attack) twice, They also beat Brees twice (who was awful on the road in '13: 12 TDs -9 INTs vs 27 TDs -3 INTs at home), and beat perhaps the worst collection of pocket QBs ever assembled; Henne, Fitzpatrick, Glennon, Ponder, Clemens...YIKES…Every D looked good vs those backup-quality QBs! On the road the Seahawks pass D beat Matt Ryan (with no Julio Jones and a hobbled Roddy White), Cam Newton (29th passing O), Schaub (who was dreadful in 2013 ), Palmer (split), Clemens, & Eli (who was atrocious this season & led the NFL in INTs). They lost to Kaep...and the one legit pocket passer Seattle faced on the road ALL SEASON was Andrew Luck, who LIT 'EM UP during a 4th QT comeback...in obvious passing situations! Don't get me wrong, The Seahawks DO have a good defense & secondary...but their schedule was so easy vs lousy pocket passers, they became a bit overrated. Truth is, Seattle plays a TON of Cover 3 (zone coverage) and that bodes well for Denver. The Seahawks D did not face an Offense, QB or receiving core like this ALL YEAR. Denvers' outstanding offensive play starts up front with an excellent O-Line and of course a brilliant quarterback that exploits softs spots in zone-coverage, burns teams that Blitz and picks Defenses apart pre-snap! Especially D's that repeatedly run the same formation (like Seattle's cover 3). Edge Denver.
On the flip, Denver gets a pretty good amount of pressure on QBs with a stout and underrated front seven. This does not bode well for Seattle, as they have struggled with pass protection all year including in the playoffs. Denvers' front 7 also gives the Broncos an very good Run D that's held teams to 64.5 yards a game on the ground in the postseason. Seattle's strength is running the ball, but their best chance to beat Denver is to pass on them. Russell Wilson’s passing game has declined however, completing only 58% of his passes and barely topping the 200-yard mark just twice in his last six games. Manning-led Broncos teams are 12-2 straight up and 10-4 against the spread in games they held opponents to 200 or less passing yards. Edge Denver
As for "Defense Wins Championships"...that was very true in yester-year...Teams with the better D have won 39 of 47 Super Bowls. Unfortunately for tradition...rules & times have changed. Teams with the better D are just 2-5 straight up & 1-6 against the spread the last 7 Super Bowls. The trend is now, teams with the hot QBs win championships. See last year's SB for instance: San Francisco and their #1 D vs Baltimore's 27th ranked D...with a hot Flacco. I'll take Denver's embarrassing array of weapons on offense with a hot Manning!
DEN-2
Follow me on Twitter @vin_vegas
These are two of the very best teams in the league and their contrasting styles make for an incredibly intriguing matchup. Both #1 seeds, Seattle boasting (statistically) the best defense in the NFL. Denver will field (statistically) the best offense by a team and quarterback in NFL history. So where to start...
Seattle had the easiest schedule vs pocket QBs out of any team in the NFL! That truly helped their defensive numbers. At home SEA lost to Palmer (pocket passer) and Beat Kaep (30th passing attack) twice, They also beat Brees twice (who was awful on the road in '13: 12 TDs -9 INTs vs 27 TDs -3 INTs at home), and beat perhaps the worst collection of pocket QBs ever assembled; Henne, Fitzpatrick, Glennon, Ponder, Clemens...YIKES…Every D looked good vs those backup-quality QBs! On the road the Seahawks pass D beat Matt Ryan (with no Julio Jones and a hobbled Roddy White), Cam Newton (29th passing O), Schaub (who was dreadful in 2013 ), Palmer (split), Clemens, & Eli (who was atrocious this season & led the NFL in INTs). They lost to Kaep...and the one legit pocket passer Seattle faced on the road ALL SEASON was Andrew Luck, who LIT 'EM UP during a 4th QT comeback...in obvious passing situations! Don't get me wrong, The Seahawks DO have a good defense & secondary...but their schedule was so easy vs lousy pocket passers, they became a bit overrated. Truth is, Seattle plays a TON of Cover 3 (zone coverage) and that bodes well for Denver. The Seahawks D did not face an Offense, QB or receiving core like this ALL YEAR. Denvers' outstanding offensive play starts up front with an excellent O-Line and of course a brilliant quarterback that exploits softs spots in zone-coverage, burns teams that Blitz and picks Defenses apart pre-snap! Especially D's that repeatedly run the same formation (like Seattle's cover 3). Edge Denver.
On the flip, Denver gets a pretty good amount of pressure on QBs with a stout and underrated front seven. This does not bode well for Seattle, as they have struggled with pass protection all year including in the playoffs. Denvers' front 7 also gives the Broncos an very good Run D that's held teams to 64.5 yards a game on the ground in the postseason. Seattle's strength is running the ball, but their best chance to beat Denver is to pass on them. Russell Wilson’s passing game has declined however, completing only 58% of his passes and barely topping the 200-yard mark just twice in his last six games. Manning-led Broncos teams are 12-2 straight up and 10-4 against the spread in games they held opponents to 200 or less passing yards. Edge Denver
As for "Defense Wins Championships"...that was very true in yester-year...Teams with the better D have won 39 of 47 Super Bowls. Unfortunately for tradition...rules & times have changed. Teams with the better D are just 2-5 straight up & 1-6 against the spread the last 7 Super Bowls. The trend is now, teams with the hot QBs win championships. See last year's SB for instance: San Francisco and their #1 D vs Baltimore's 27th ranked D...with a hot Flacco. I'll take Denver's embarrassing array of weapons on offense with a hot Manning!
DEN-2
Follow me on Twitter @vin_vegas
With a defense that good the Seahawks should not have lost even one game this year.
With a defense that good the Seahawks should not have lost even one game this year.
When the #1 Defense has played in the Super Bowl, those defensive-led squads are 12-3 SU.
#1 Offenses in SB History are 10-8 SU.
Most comparable SB to me is the 2008 - David Tyree game NYG/NE. The Patriots were so sick offensively, the best of all time at that point. However, NYG got a lot of pressue and got immobile Brady off his spot.
Same trend has repeated in several recent super bowls
2002 Patriots beat Rams 20-17
2003 Bucs beat Raiders 48-21
2006 Steelers beat Seahawks 21-10
2009 Steelers beat Cardinals 27-23
If history is any guide, Seattle should be the favorite to win.
When the #1 Defense has played in the Super Bowl, those defensive-led squads are 12-3 SU.
#1 Offenses in SB History are 10-8 SU.
Most comparable SB to me is the 2008 - David Tyree game NYG/NE. The Patriots were so sick offensively, the best of all time at that point. However, NYG got a lot of pressue and got immobile Brady off his spot.
Same trend has repeated in several recent super bowls
2002 Patriots beat Rams 20-17
2003 Bucs beat Raiders 48-21
2006 Steelers beat Seahawks 21-10
2009 Steelers beat Cardinals 27-23
If history is any guide, Seattle should be the favorite to win.
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