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    New England at Kansas City (09/29/2014)

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    pooniah
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 10:23 AM ET #26

    You guys are making predictions based on the Pats team you have seen from the previous years or so. They are playing like crap this year. They barely survived against the Raiders.. 

    The Raiders and the Pats got crushed by the Dolphins and the Chiefs destroyed the Dolphins on the road. 

    NE is 2-1, KC is 1-2. More urgency on the side of KC. And as for the most important factor, KANSAS IS AT HOME!

    Kansas City ML LARGE
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    You guys are making predictions based on the Pats team you have seen from the previous years or so. They are playing like crap this year. They barely survived against the Raiders.. 

    The Raiders and the Pats got crushed by the Dolphins and the Chiefs destroyed the Dolphins on the road. 

    NE is 2-1, KC is 1-2. More urgency on the side of KC. And as for the most important factor, KANSAS IS AT HOME!

    Kansas City ML LARGE
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 10:50 AM ET #27

    This is a tricky game. Anyone know where the sharp $$ is?

     

    The Eagles cost me a nice little bit yesterday, thinking about the Pats m/l w over 47 to break me even.  I am a bit worried about the horrible offensive line vs the KC pass rush, and by NFL math, the Chiefs should win as they beat the Dolphins who beat the Patriots with defense.

    Thoughts?

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    This is a tricky game. Anyone know where the sharp $$ is?

     

    The Eagles cost me a nice little bit yesterday, thinking about the Pats m/l w over 47 to break me even.  I am a bit worried about the horrible offensive line vs the KC pass rush, and by NFL math, the Chiefs should win as they beat the Dolphins who beat the Patriots with defense.

    Thoughts?

     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 11:33 AM ET #28

    The logic of this team beat that team so this team should now beat this team is a great way to lose all your bets.  This is a week to week league where the bucs lose by 50 then go into Pitt and win.

    Neither of these teams have impressed thus far.  The pats defense will win this game.  I expect them to load the box early to shut down the run game and force Alex smith to throw the ball, getting the chiefs out of their game.  Brady and the offense will do just enough to win this game and Bellicheck will out coach Reid. 

    Bellicheck 4-0 versus Andy Reid coached teams.

    Pats -2.5
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    The logic of this team beat that team so this team should now beat this team is a great way to lose all your bets.  This is a week to week league where the bucs lose by 50 then go into Pitt and win.

    Neither of these teams have impressed thus far.  The pats defense will win this game.  I expect them to load the box early to shut down the run game and force Alex smith to throw the ball, getting the chiefs out of their game.  Brady and the offense will do just enough to win this game and Bellicheck will out coach Reid. 

    Bellicheck 4-0 versus Andy Reid coached teams.

    Pats -2.5
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 11:41 AM ET #29

    And by Bellicheck I mean Belichick
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    And by Bellicheck I mean Belichick
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 11:54 AM ET #30

    Too many people are talking about the Patriot's having a lot of talent... These are not the same Patriot's that were Superbowl contenders of previous years.

    At which positions are they talented? The receivers are not good, the running backs are average at best, the offensive line is terrible, and Brady has been missing targets all season long.

    The defense, however, has some talent. Chandler Jones is a great pass rusher that also plays the run very well. Hightower should be used in a pass rushing role much more tonight. Revis on the back end and McCourty at safety, are in good position to make plays.

    With two bad offenisve lines and defenses that can easily get at the quarterback, I don't think many points are going to be put up tonight.

    The under should be the play.

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    Too many people are talking about the Patriot's having a lot of talent... These are not the same Patriot's that were Superbowl contenders of previous years.

    At which positions are they talented? The receivers are not good, the running backs are average at best, the offensive line is terrible, and Brady has been missing targets all season long.

    The defense, however, has some talent. Chandler Jones is a great pass rusher that also plays the run very well. Hightower should be used in a pass rushing role much more tonight. Revis on the back end and McCourty at safety, are in good position to make plays.

    With two bad offenisve lines and defenses that can easily get at the quarterback, I don't think many points are going to be put up tonight.

    The under should be the play.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 12:21 PM ET #31

    total s too high. How can we expect this number to get here unless strip sack fumble for short field or runback and a pick 6. Or is this the night that pats get healthy on Offense and SB aspirations are back. too many what ifs, may sit out 1h and play on 2H. Sitting out sometimes keeps profits in your pocket instead of giving it back
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    total s too high. How can we expect this number to get here unless strip sack fumble for short field or runback and a pick 6. Or is this the night that pats get healthy on Offense and SB aspirations are back. too many what ifs, may sit out 1h and play on 2H. Sitting out sometimes keeps profits in your pocket instead of giving it back
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 1:09 PM ET #32

    Great day other than the hideous steelrs loss..wheres the guy that nailed the Minn and Dallas ML?  Good plays.  I had Dallas and O last ngith for anice cash.

    leaning NE and U tonight
    glta
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    Great day other than the hideous steelrs loss..wheres the guy that nailed the Minn and Dallas ML?  Good plays.  I had Dallas and O last ngith for anice cash.

    leaning NE and U tonight
    glta
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 1:11 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by GordoPockets:

    Too many people are talking about the Patriot's having a lot of talent... These are not the same Patriot's that were Superbowl contenders of previous years.

    At which positions are they talented? The receivers are not good, the running backs are average at best, the offensive line is terrible, and Brady has been missing targets all season long.

    The defense, however, has some talent. Chandler Jones is a great pass rusher that also plays the run very well. Hightower should be used in a pass rushing role much more tonight. Revis on the back end and McCourty at safety, are in good position to make plays.

    With two bad offenisve lines and defenses that can easily get at the quarterback, I don't think many points are going to be put up tonight.

    The under should be the play.


    NE definitely not the teams of the past but good enough to cover.  KC is banged up.  NE should be able find balance on O and I expect Gronkowski to finally get some balls.  And of course we are dealing with Alex Smith here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GordoPockets:

    Too many people are talking about the Patriot's having a lot of talent... These are not the same Patriot's that were Superbowl contenders of previous years.

    At which positions are they talented? The receivers are not good, the running backs are average at best, the offensive line is terrible, and Brady has been missing targets all season long.

    The defense, however, has some talent. Chandler Jones is a great pass rusher that also plays the run very well. Hightower should be used in a pass rushing role much more tonight. Revis on the back end and McCourty at safety, are in good position to make plays.

    With two bad offenisve lines and defenses that can easily get at the quarterback, I don't think many points are going to be put up tonight.

    The under should be the play.


    NE definitely not the teams of the past but good enough to cover.  KC is banged up.  NE should be able find balance on O and I expect Gronkowski to finally get some balls.  And of course we are dealing with Alex Smith here.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 2:40 PM ET #34

    Poohing explain to me?? Atl vs Tampa Bay blowout win Thurs a week ago.
    Atlanta losses to Vikings
    Tampa Bay beats the Steelers
    This is the pros and the play diffently week to week how come KC lost toTenn? Wow I wish it was guaranteed or I would take KC leaning NE 6-0 ATS MNF
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    Poohing explain to me?? Atl vs Tampa Bay blowout win Thurs a week ago.
    Atlanta losses to Vikings
    Tampa Bay beats the Steelers
    This is the pros and the play diffently week to week how come KC lost toTenn? Wow I wish it was guaranteed or I would take KC leaning NE 6-0 ATS MNF
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 2:49 PM ET #35

    Belicheck vs Reid
    Brady vs Smith
    and can get NE at minus less than a FG...not gonna think about this any further.

    NE -2.5 for me please
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    Belicheck vs Reid
    Brady vs Smith
    and can get NE at minus less than a FG...not gonna think about this any further.

    NE -2.5 for me please
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 2:53 PM ET #36

    Chiefs +10

    Over 40

    (+7 teased)

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    Chiefs +10

    Over 40

    (+7 teased)

     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 2:53 PM ET #37

    Deal breaker for me NE +6 takeaways
    KC -5 takeaways Alex Smith is good for that
    New England -2.5
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    Deal breaker for me NE +6 takeaways
    KC -5 takeaways Alex Smith is good for that
    New England -2.5
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 2:59 PM ET #38

    I beg to differ, Tom Brady and New England looks done, they have no receivers and they never truly developed a running game. I honestly feel Kansas not only covers the spread but wins this game straight up. Also I like the Unders.
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    I beg to differ, Tom Brady and New England looks done, they have no receivers and they never truly developed a running game. I honestly feel Kansas not only covers the spread but wins this game straight up. Also I like the Unders.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 3:10 PM ET #39

    There are a few NFL teams that give oddsmakers headaches every time they end up on Monday Night Football. The New England Patriots are one of those teams.

    The Patriots opened as -4 point road favorites a week ago in this matchup against the Kansas City Chiefs but that line dipped to -3.5 when news came out that Chiefs running back Jamaal Charles was listed as probable. The line settled at -3 by Wednesday of last week.

    “Overall, 68 percent of the handle is on New England and right now we’re seeing balanced action at -3 (-110), so we’ll likely keep the line there,” a
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    There are a few NFL teams that give oddsmakers headaches every time they end up on Monday Night Football. The New England Patriots are one of those teams.

    The Patriots opened as -4 point road favorites a week ago in this matchup against the Kansas City Chiefs but that line dipped to -3.5 when news came out that Chiefs running back Jamaal Charles was listed as probable. The line settled at -3 by Wednesday of last week.

    “Overall, 68 percent of the handle is on New England and right now we’re seeing balanced action at -3 (-110), so we’ll likely keep the line there,” a
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 3:17 PM ET #40

    Line moving down, at 2.5 now.  I am on Kc money line and under. GLTA 
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    Line moving down, at 2.5 now.  I am on Kc money line and under. GLTA 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 3:22 PM ET #41

    Take it from the guy who lost $660 yesterday.. I'm leaning Pats
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    Take it from the guy who lost $660 yesterday.. I'm leaning Pats
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 4:18 PM ET #42

    Chiefs All Day
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    Chiefs All Day
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 4:22 PM ET #43

    [Quote: Originally Posted by ronnie101]

    If  you feel KC  wins then the pick is the under

    UNDER IS THE PICK

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by ronnie101]

    If  you feel KC  wins then the pick is the under

    UNDER IS THE PICK

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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 4:25 PM ET #44

    Tom Brady has yet to pass for over 250 yards this season, and Alex Smith passed for only 255 against Denver...........all I like is the under
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    Tom Brady has yet to pass for over 250 yards this season, and Alex Smith passed for only 255 against Denver...........all I like is the under
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 4:36 PM ET #45

    Not a huge UNDER guy on MNF, but this total seems a little high. 

    Leaning KC and U.   Will tease those for sure.  GL

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    Not a huge UNDER guy on MNF, but this total seems a little high. 

    Leaning KC and U.   Will tease those for sure.  GL

     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 4:41 PM ET #46

    I think New England's #2 ranked defense is a bit overrated and hasn't truly been tested yet especially against the pass and I don't see Chiefs being an aerial threat but Patriots certainly can be runned on. The Chiefs are very similar in style to the Dolphins. They can run the ball effectively and do just enough short passing to move the chains but not consistently enough. New England hasn't faced a good RB since week 1.. Matt Asiata? An Over-the-hill McFadden? They'll get to face a nice 1-2 combo in Jamaal Charles and Kniles Davis!

    I also think the Cheifs can be runned on too. Pats have been conservative running the ball. they ran the ball effectively week 2 against the Vikings and they should have a much better effort than last week. Chiefs also given up scores to tight ends. They've given up a TD to Delanie Walker and Julius Thomas. Rob Gronkowski will be a red zone threat and I think he gets a TD tonight. the Cheifs pass defense can be exploited too. if Manning had his way with them, Brady can do it too..sort of. I know Brady will take his shots despite all the chemistry issues with recievers.

    I see Pats being a little more aggressive than last week. It all comes down to protecting the QB and turnovers. I think the Chiefs are at a disadvantage there. It'll be a close game because its at Arrowhead.

    the Monday night dog is 3-1 on a 3 win streak, but feel like it could end tonight. the trend reverses like it did on Thursday when the dog finally won, and on Monday night its the Favorites turn.

    Still see a 24-21 score in favor of the Patriots. there'll be a lot of running and some 3 and outs to keep this low scoring

    Pats -2.5 and Under!

     

     

     

    Sip on that plus money honey!
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    I think New England's #2 ranked defense is a bit overrated and hasn't truly been tested yet especially against the pass and I don't see Chiefs being an aerial threat but Patriots certainly can be runned on. The Chiefs are very similar in style to the Dolphins. They can run the ball effectively and do just enough short passing to move the chains but not consistently enough. New England hasn't faced a good RB since week 1.. Matt Asiata? An Over-the-hill McFadden? They'll get to face a nice 1-2 combo in Jamaal Charles and Kniles Davis!

    I also think the Cheifs can be runned on too. Pats have been conservative running the ball. they ran the ball effectively week 2 against the Vikings and they should have a much better effort than last week. Chiefs also given up scores to tight ends. They've given up a TD to Delanie Walker and Julius Thomas. Rob Gronkowski will be a red zone threat and I think he gets a TD tonight. the Cheifs pass defense can be exploited too. if Manning had his way with them, Brady can do it too..sort of. I know Brady will take his shots despite all the chemistry issues with recievers.

    I see Pats being a little more aggressive than last week. It all comes down to protecting the QB and turnovers. I think the Chiefs are at a disadvantage there. It'll be a close game because its at Arrowhead.

    the Monday night dog is 3-1 on a 3 win streak, but feel like it could end tonight. the trend reverses like it did on Thursday when the dog finally won, and on Monday night its the Favorites turn.

    Still see a 24-21 score in favor of the Patriots. there'll be a lot of running and some 3 and outs to keep this low scoring

    Pats -2.5 and Under!

     

     

     

     
    wnnerwnner
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 5:14 PM ET #47

    [Quote: Originally Posted by ronnie101]

    If  you feel KC  wins then the pick is the under

    UNDER IS THE PICK

    Could not agree more with this post......Under is the play for large and medium play on Chiefs ML.  

    Really like the way Knile Davis has stepped in for Charles while he was out.  With both Charles and Davis healthy i expect a healthy dose of running the ball which will eat up clock and also wear down that very weak pats defensive line.  Expect New England's corners or safety to lead the team in tackles tonight as the Chiefs running game will be in the 2nd level of that Pats defense throughout this game.  
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by ronnie101]

    If  you feel KC  wins then the pick is the under

    UNDER IS THE PICK

    Could not agree more with this post......Under is the play for large and medium play on Chiefs ML.  

    Really like the way Knile Davis has stepped in for Charles while he was out.  With both Charles and Davis healthy i expect a healthy dose of running the ball which will eat up clock and also wear down that very weak pats defensive line.  Expect New England's corners or safety to lead the team in tackles tonight as the Chiefs running game will be in the 2nd level of that Pats defense throughout this game.  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 5:15 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    I'm on the home dog getting 3

    KC has Charles back tonight and they impressed in the Miami road victory.

    I hate betting against an elite qb in prime time but the way their offensive and defensive lines have been playing I have no problem betting against brady.

    Gl to all...

    I'll buy the hook of course 

    KC +3.5

    I like all that, but I do hate going against "Satan's Bodyguard" at any time. But you know what? I think Belichick might have gone to the well one too many times and expected to create something out of nothing.

    Primetime game, Monday night, in (arguably) the second rowdiest stadium in the league? You know what? I got some extra gravy from this weekend to sop up thanks to Romo last night, you're taking the points and buying the hook? I'm saying Chiefs S/U for +120

    Good Luck All!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    I'm on the home dog getting 3

    KC has Charles back tonight and they impressed in the Miami road victory.

    I hate betting against an elite qb in prime time but the way their offensive and defensive lines have been playing I have no problem betting against brady.

    Gl to all...

    I'll buy the hook of course 

    KC +3.5

    I like all that, but I do hate going against "Satan's Bodyguard" at any time. But you know what? I think Belichick might have gone to the well one too many times and expected to create something out of nothing.

    Primetime game, Monday night, in (arguably) the second rowdiest stadium in the league? You know what? I got some extra gravy from this weekend to sop up thanks to Romo last night, you're taking the points and buying the hook? I'm saying Chiefs S/U for +120

    Good Luck All!

     
    J0HNS0N
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 5:16 PM ET #49

    I'll give kc +5.5 . 
    PATS WIN EASY. 
    24-17 final.
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    I'll give kc +5.5 . 
    PATS WIN EASY. 
    24-17 final.
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 5:17 PM ET #50

    I'll give kc +5.5 . 
    PATS WIN EASY. 
    24-17 final.
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    I'll give kc +5.5 . 
    PATS WIN EASY. 
    24-17 final.
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