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    New England at Kansas City (09/29/2014)

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    Bullittt
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 7:35 PM ET #76

    I teased it. Took KC +9 and under 52
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    I teased it. Took KC +9 and under 52
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 7:39 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBaseballbets:


    Yes definitely, i didnt mean it to be specific to this game. more of a general statement. usually applies to spreads like 6 or bigger. but in this scenario i think it may apply because brady will definitely be looking to get that offense going after that terrible showing against oakland. so kc will need to keep up, which would mean over. 

    if you look at nfl/nba scores, or any sport with spreads through out the year, and yrs past. you will see 70+% of the time when the fave covers, it stays under, and when dog covers it goes over. its the simplest of math.

    which is why i laugh anytime im at the casino and i see someone do a -10 fave and over parlay. might as well flush that $ down the toilet 

    Interesting insight...

    I'm sure I've been guilty of playing that lol but now I'll think twice...

    Gl
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBaseballbets:


    Yes definitely, i didnt mean it to be specific to this game. more of a general statement. usually applies to spreads like 6 or bigger. but in this scenario i think it may apply because brady will definitely be looking to get that offense going after that terrible showing against oakland. so kc will need to keep up, which would mean over. 

    if you look at nfl/nba scores, or any sport with spreads through out the year, and yrs past. you will see 70+% of the time when the fave covers, it stays under, and when dog covers it goes over. its the simplest of math.

    which is why i laugh anytime im at the casino and i see someone do a -10 fave and over parlay. might as well flush that $ down the toilet 

    Interesting insight...

    I'm sure I've been guilty of playing that lol but now I'll think twice...

    Gl
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 7:39 PM ET #78

    I love homers biting and betting on the Pats!!!
    Keep it up putos!!
    Push the hook @ 5:15 dum faaaaaks!!
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    I love homers biting and betting on the Pats!!!
    Keep it up putos!!
    Push the hook @ 5:15 dum faaaaaks!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 7:45 PM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by pooniah:

    You guys are making predictions based on the Pats team you have seen from the previous years or so. They are playing like crap this year. They barely survived against the Raiders.. 

    The Raiders and the Pats got crushed by the Dolphins and the Chiefs destroyed the Dolphins on the road. 

    NE is 2-1, KC is 1-2. More urgency on the side of KC. And as for the most important factor, KANSAS IS AT HOME!

    Kansas City ML LARGE

    The transitive property does not apply in sports.  Atl beat NO.  NO beat Min.  Atl lost to Min..... A lot more goes into these games besides such as individual match ups and motivation.  I think Mr. Brady is tired of hearing about how he is struggling this year and I am not sure of a more competitive individual on the football field.    


    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:


    In response to number 4, I expect it to be a low scoring defensive battle.... and I'm betting that New England wins by less than 4....

    I think I goes wayyyy under and we see a lot of fgs.... in see what your saying about keeping score but it's gonna be hard to score 24 points in Primetime in KC vs that defense....

    But who knows.... 1 special teams ruNyack and over it is!

    Gl 

    I am glad you cleared this up.  The guy you responded to made a completely false statement.  It is a lot easier to hit the under and the dog, rather than hoping that the dog "keeps up" and taking the over and the dog.  Especially f you think it's going to be a close one score game, hence a defensive battle.    Bigbaseballbets go review your algebra son, a lower scoring game would mean that it is easier for the dog to cover those points they are getting. NOT the other way around.

    With that being said, I am leaning on the under, but I do not have the cajones to lock it in for a primetime game.  I do know both teams have solid Ds.  I just think the Pats show up this week, but KC is a tough place to play.  I might just enjoy the game as a spectator, but I doubt it.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by pooniah:

    You guys are making predictions based on the Pats team you have seen from the previous years or so. They are playing like crap this year. They barely survived against the Raiders.. 

    The Raiders and the Pats got crushed by the Dolphins and the Chiefs destroyed the Dolphins on the road. 

    NE is 2-1, KC is 1-2. More urgency on the side of KC. And as for the most important factor, KANSAS IS AT HOME!

    Kansas City ML LARGE

    The transitive property does not apply in sports.  Atl beat NO.  NO beat Min.  Atl lost to Min..... A lot more goes into these games besides such as individual match ups and motivation.  I think Mr. Brady is tired of hearing about how he is struggling this year and I am not sure of a more competitive individual on the football field.    


    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:


    In response to number 4, I expect it to be a low scoring defensive battle.... and I'm betting that New England wins by less than 4....

    I think I goes wayyyy under and we see a lot of fgs.... in see what your saying about keeping score but it's gonna be hard to score 24 points in Primetime in KC vs that defense....

    But who knows.... 1 special teams ruNyack and over it is!

    Gl 

    I am glad you cleared this up.  The guy you responded to made a completely false statement.  It is a lot easier to hit the under and the dog, rather than hoping that the dog "keeps up" and taking the over and the dog.  Especially f you think it's going to be a close one score game, hence a defensive battle.    Bigbaseballbets go review your algebra son, a lower scoring game would mean that it is easier for the dog to cover those points they are getting. NOT the other way around.

    With that being said, I am leaning on the under, but I do not have the cajones to lock it in for a primetime game.  I do know both teams have solid Ds.  I just think the Pats show up this week, but KC is a tough place to play.  I might just enjoy the game as a spectator, but I doubt it.  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 7:47 PM ET #80

    Kc plus Under...1k
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    Kc plus Under...1k
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 7:48 PM ET #81

    KC -3 1/2  BIG
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    KC -3 1/2  BIG
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 7:51 PM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by scottyoman:

    KC -3 1/2  BIG
    + 3 1/2
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottyoman:

    KC -3 1/2  BIG
    + 3 1/2
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 7:56 PM ET #83

    Going to see how matchups and tempo play out for first half and may make play on second half if numbers line up.
    If forced my play for game would be Pats and Over. With the Over being first play.
    Mullet Malitia at Camarohead. LOL
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    Going to see how matchups and tempo play out for first half and may make play on second half if numbers line up.
    If forced my play for game would be Pats and Over. With the Over being first play.
    Mullet Malitia at Camarohead. LOL
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 7:57 PM ET #84

    KC in a great spot here....Andy Reid is a MNF wizzard since getting a head coaching job....pressure is all over NE and KC has a very formidable home field advatage over the years......With some of the surprises during the first quarter of the season.....I wouldn't be surprised if there is one more to close the quarter out.  KC +3 and the over 7.5 in the first qtr seem like solid angles......Brady might rekindle his MNF magic!?!?!??!  But I think they have troubles in NE that are deeper than what we have seen in a decade......I think fading NE as a fav for the next few weeks might not be a bad angle either!  GL everyone!!!

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    KC in a great spot here....Andy Reid is a MNF wizzard since getting a head coaching job....pressure is all over NE and KC has a very formidable home field advatage over the years......With some of the surprises during the first quarter of the season.....I wouldn't be surprised if there is one more to close the quarter out.  KC +3 and the over 7.5 in the first qtr seem like solid angles......Brady might rekindle his MNF magic!?!?!??!  But I think they have troubles in NE that are deeper than what we have seen in a decade......I think fading NE as a fav for the next few weeks might not be a bad angle either!  GL everyone!!!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 8:02 PM ET #85

    NE is not the same team it use to be.  They lack receivers and Tom is 37.  I feel KC should hold them low scoring and win or keep the game within 3 points.  Enjoy
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    NE is not the same team it use to be.  They lack receivers and Tom is 37.  I feel KC should hold them low scoring and win or keep the game within 3 points.  Enjoy
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 8:09 PM ET #86

    This game has gnu under the last 4 times these teams met. KC will be trying to use the clock up by running the ball to keep NE off the field. I like NE and under.   - THE Myth (over 50 years of betting pro football!)
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    This game has gnu under the last 4 times these teams met. KC will be trying to use the clock up by running the ball to keep NE off the field. I like NE and under.   - THE Myth (over 50 years of betting pro football!)
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 8:14 PM ET #87

    I bought up KC to +4.5, hopefully they can keep it close throughout the whole game. KC defense isn't that good, so hopefully Jamaal Charles and Knile Davis run the ball good to keep Brady and Co on the sidelines. 
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    I bought up KC to +4.5, hopefully they can keep it close throughout the whole game. KC defense isn't that good, so hopefully Jamaal Charles and Knile Davis run the ball good to keep Brady and Co on the sidelines. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 8:14 PM ET #88

    Home field doesnt matter in this case because Brady can go play anywhere. What this comes down to is the KC offense vs the #2 defense in the league. Everybody knows defense wins championships.
    Patriots offense is strugglin but once you talk about Brady and his offense then you better sit back with a bag of popcorn and enjoy the show. Brady has a chip on his shoulder and the usually means somebody defense is in trouble.

    Chiefs -  15

    Patriots - 19
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    Home field doesnt matter in this case because Brady can go play anywhere. What this comes down to is the KC offense vs the #2 defense in the league. Everybody knows defense wins championships.
    Patriots offense is strugglin but once you talk about Brady and his offense then you better sit back with a bag of popcorn and enjoy the show. Brady has a chip on his shoulder and the usually means somebody defense is in trouble.

    Chiefs -  15

    Patriots - 19
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 8:20 PM ET #89

    NE 9  KC 23 
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    NE 9  KC 23 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 8:21 PM ET #90

    Quote Originally Posted by las8:


    The transitive property does not apply in sports.  Atl beat NO.  NO beat Min.  Atl lost to Min..... A lot more goes into these games besides such as individual match ups and motivation.  I think Mr. Brady is tired of hearing about how he is struggling this year and I am not sure of a more competitive individual on the football field.    


    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:


    In response to number 4, I expect it to be a low scoring defensive battle.... and I'm betting that New England wins by less than 4....

    I think I goes wayyyy under and we see a lot of fgs.... in see what your saying about keeping score but it's gonna be hard to score 24 points in Primetime in KC vs that defense....

    But who knows.... 1 special teams ruNyack and over it is!

    Gl 

    I am glad you cleared this up.  The guy you responded to made a completely false statement.  It is a lot easier to hit the under and the dog, rather than hoping that the dog "keeps up" and taking the over and the dog.  Especially f you think it's going to be a close one score game, hence a defensive battle.    Bigbaseballbets go review your algebra son, a lower scoring game would mean that it is easier for the dog to cover those points they are getting. NOT the other way around.

    With that being said, I am leaning on the under, but I do not have the cajones to lock it in for a primetime game.  I do know both teams have solid Ds.  I just think the Pats show up this week, but KC is a tough place to play.  I might just enjoy the game as a spectator, but I doubt it.  

    yeah my algebra is off lol...
    why dont u look at the 3 scores, and lines of those 3 games u listed. thx for proving my point...

    atl (dog) beat NO, result over
    no (fave) beat min, result under
    min (dog) beat atl, result over

    the scores dont lie man. so when it comes to football, my math is on. youre breaking the number one rule by saying "its just gonna be a low scoring game" youre capping the total first before the side. which is a major mistake
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    Quote Originally Posted by las8:


    The transitive property does not apply in sports.  Atl beat NO.  NO beat Min.  Atl lost to Min..... A lot more goes into these games besides such as individual match ups and motivation.  I think Mr. Brady is tired of hearing about how he is struggling this year and I am not sure of a more competitive individual on the football field.    


    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:


    In response to number 4, I expect it to be a low scoring defensive battle.... and I'm betting that New England wins by less than 4....

    I think I goes wayyyy under and we see a lot of fgs.... in see what your saying about keeping score but it's gonna be hard to score 24 points in Primetime in KC vs that defense....

    But who knows.... 1 special teams ruNyack and over it is!

    Gl 

    I am glad you cleared this up.  The guy you responded to made a completely false statement.  It is a lot easier to hit the under and the dog, rather than hoping that the dog "keeps up" and taking the over and the dog.  Especially f you think it's going to be a close one score game, hence a defensive battle.    Bigbaseballbets go review your algebra son, a lower scoring game would mean that it is easier for the dog to cover those points they are getting. NOT the other way around.

    With that being said, I am leaning on the under, but I do not have the cajones to lock it in for a primetime game.  I do know both teams have solid Ds.  I just think the Pats show up this week, but KC is a tough place to play.  I might just enjoy the game as a spectator, but I doubt it.  

    yeah my algebra is off lol...
    why dont u look at the 3 scores, and lines of those 3 games u listed. thx for proving my point...

    atl (dog) beat NO, result over
    no (fave) beat min, result under
    min (dog) beat atl, result over

    the scores dont lie man. so when it comes to football, my math is on. youre breaking the number one rule by saying "its just gonna be a low scoring game" youre capping the total first before the side. which is a major mistake
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 8:22 PM ET #91

    pats +3 and under 46
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    pats +3 and under 46
     
    nalla1615
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 8:23 PM ET #92

    May take an in game bet on over at 38 or under at end of 1st qtr both teams seem to like 2nd qtr to put up points
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    May take an in game bet on over at 38 or under at end of 1st qtr both teams seem to like 2nd qtr to put up points
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 8:29 PM ET #93

    KC +.5

    Under 22.5  first half  4 units


    Patriots -3 +110 ? huh
    Under 45

    Whole game

    4 Units
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    KC +.5

    Under 22.5  first half  4 units


    Patriots -3 +110 ? huh
    Under 45

    Whole game

    4 Units
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 8:42 PM ET #94

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBaseballbets:


    yeah my algebra is off lol...
    why dont u look at the 3 scores, and lines of those 3 games u listed. thx for proving my point...

    atl (dog) beat NO, result over
    no (fave) beat min, result under
    min (dog) beat atl, result over

    the scores dont lie man. so when it comes to football, my math is on. youre breaking the number one rule by saying "its just gonna be a low scoring game" youre capping the total first before the side. which is a major mistake

    Very small and randomly selected sample size.  I do not think it applies for this game since the line is small, but like last week OAK +14... final was 19-6.  Definitely more applicable to college where the lines are higher than 10 more often.  Like L. Tech vs Auburn last week +32.5 and under 64, please I'll take that all day especially with LSU on deck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBaseballbets:


    yeah my algebra is off lol...
    why dont u look at the 3 scores, and lines of those 3 games u listed. thx for proving my point...

    atl (dog) beat NO, result over
    no (fave) beat min, result under
    min (dog) beat atl, result over

    the scores dont lie man. so when it comes to football, my math is on. youre breaking the number one rule by saying "its just gonna be a low scoring game" youre capping the total first before the side. which is a major mistake

    Very small and randomly selected sample size.  I do not think it applies for this game since the line is small, but like last week OAK +14... final was 19-6.  Definitely more applicable to college where the lines are higher than 10 more often.  Like L. Tech vs Auburn last week +32.5 and under 64, please I'll take that all day especially with LSU on deck.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 8:43 PM ET #95

    Quote Originally Posted by OC_sharp949:

    KC +.5

    Under 22.5  first half  4 units


    Patriots -3 +110 ? huh
    Under 45

    Whole game

    4 Units
       cool
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC_sharp949:

    KC +.5

    Under 22.5  first half  4 units


    Patriots -3 +110 ? huh
    Under 45

    Whole game

    4 Units
       cool
     
    nalla1615
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 8:58 PM ET #96

    Took Over at 40.5 -108 on in game wager before 1st score
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    Took Over at 40.5 -108 on in game wager before 1st score
     
    Twinkies802
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 9:24 PM ET #97

    This is the first Patriots game I have watched this year.  They really lack a deep threat.  KC has no reason to be afraid of down field passing game.
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    This is the first Patriots game I have watched this year.  They really lack a deep threat.  KC has no reason to be afraid of down field passing game.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 10:03 PM ET #98

    Small 2nd half parlay to hedge...

    Pats -4.5 over 23

    It's possible to win both.

    Gl to all!
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    Small 2nd half parlay to hedge...

    Pats -4.5 over 23

    It's possible to win both.

    Gl to all!
     
    nalla1615
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 10:56 PM ET #99

    Winner Winner surf and turf diner.
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    Winner Winner surf and turf diner.
     
     
    BreakaBookie
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2014 - 10:56 PM ET #100

    Wow congrats to over backers and kc backers!
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    Wow congrats to over backers and kc backers!
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