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    Buffalo at Cleveland (10/03/2013)

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    Hawkeye21
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 12:51 PM ET #51

    Might need to stay away from this game.  Looks as though people are all over the place on what they like.  No clear favorite pick even with the o/u.
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    Might need to stay away from this game.  Looks as though people are all over the place on what they like.  No clear favorite pick even with the o/u.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 12:52 PM ET #52

    Browns ML
    ":":":":":":":" Safe Play here :":":":""":":"":"!!!
                     defense holds up and wins this game at home!!
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    Browns ML
    ":":":":":":":" Safe Play here :":":":""":":"":"!!!
                     defense holds up and wins this game at home!!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 1:17 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

       Buffalo has played Cleveland very well in the past. 

    BUFFALO   +  4


    you had same bull s h i t angle when you were on the Browns as a road dog @ Baltimore in week 2 and I pointed out that it was totally baseless and inaccurate analysis then and I dont even need to look it up to point out the same thing now

     Buff and Cleve play each other once every 1 or 2 years depending on schedule and neither team bears much resemblance to the teams who competed in last years game, so your "historical" handicapping angle is about as useless as the monopoly money you are betting on the game
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    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

       Buffalo has played Cleveland very well in the past. 

    BUFFALO   +  4


    you had same bull s h i t angle when you were on the Browns as a road dog @ Baltimore in week 2 and I pointed out that it was totally baseless and inaccurate analysis then and I dont even need to look it up to point out the same thing now

     Buff and Cleve play each other once every 1 or 2 years depending on schedule and neither team bears much resemblance to the teams who competed in last years game, so your "historical" handicapping angle is about as useless as the monopoly money you are betting on the game
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 3:12 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Shouta:


    you had same bull s h i t angle when you were on the Browns as a road dog @ Baltimore in week 2 and I pointed out that it was totally baseless and inaccurate analysis then and I dont even need to look it up to point out the same thing now
     
    disagree..... Historical matchups are always relevant....
     
    there are certainly unmistakeable matchup trends that can't be ignored....
     
    for example..... Chargers were 4-0 SU vs NFC East 3 years ago with Phillip Rivers....
     
    this year he's 2-0 so far with only the giants and skins left to play..... Completely different squads....
     
    with respects to this matchup I like the browns at home despite the historical trend....
     

     
     Buff and Cleve play each other once every 1 or 2 years depending on schedule and neither team bears much resemblance to the teams who competed in last years game, so your "historical" handicapping angle is about as useless as the monopoly money you are betting on the game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Shouta:


    you had same bull s h i t angle when you were on the Browns as a road dog @ Baltimore in week 2 and I pointed out that it was totally baseless and inaccurate analysis then and I dont even need to look it up to point out the same thing now
     
    disagree..... Historical matchups are always relevant....
     
    there are certainly unmistakeable matchup trends that can't be ignored....
     
    for example..... Chargers were 4-0 SU vs NFC East 3 years ago with Phillip Rivers....
     
    this year he's 2-0 so far with only the giants and skins left to play..... Completely different squads....
     
    with respects to this matchup I like the browns at home despite the historical trend....
     

     
     Buff and Cleve play each other once every 1 or 2 years depending on schedule and neither team bears much resemblance to the teams who competed in last years game, so your "historical" handicapping angle is about as useless as the monopoly money you are betting on the game
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 3:29 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:


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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:


     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 3:41 PM ET #56

    breakabookie maybe you just need to mind your own f k n business I called out vue because his information is terrible has nothing to do with whether or not historical trends are useful which they obv are

    what's really funny is that with all of the morons and their terrible information and angles that are available to you on this website you take the worst bet on the board and try and call me out, I can only pray your handicapping doesn't also suffer from the same lack of common sense
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    breakabookie maybe you just need to mind your own f k n business I called out vue because his information is terrible has nothing to do with whether or not historical trends are useful which they obv are

    what's really funny is that with all of the morons and their terrible information and angles that are available to you on this website you take the worst bet on the board and try and call me out, I can only pray your handicapping doesn't also suffer from the same lack of common sense
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 3:48 PM ET #57

    seriously and what the f k does Philip Rivers record vs the NFC Least have to do with anything in this conversation?

    go ahead an jump off the cliff with all the other lemmings

    meanwhile...... the Bills are 

    1-9  ATS on road after home game
    3-11-1 ATS after ATS win
    2-5 ATS on grass playing surface
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    seriously and what the f k does Philip Rivers record vs the NFC Least have to do with anything in this conversation?

    go ahead an jump off the cliff with all the other lemmings

    meanwhile...... the Bills are 

    1-9  ATS on road after home game
    3-11-1 ATS after ATS win
    2-5 ATS on grass playing surface
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 4:11 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by GoBills89:

    Bills Receiving core is much better than the browns secondary, and it's on the bills o line to get the ball in the end zone through the air. woods is coming along and at some point ej is gonna start hitting those long balls. Every week he has missed his target don the sidelines but has receivers who are flat out faster then their coverage. This will be the most dominant defensive line hoyer has ever played in his life, I just don't see him having another great performance. I'm not saying its a sure bet, Ni nfl games are, anf i still have to figure out how much I'm willing to risk on this game, but I would NEVER take the browns -4 on this. Your crazy

     

    "Best defensive line Hoyer has ever played in his life..."

    Little bit of a stretch there. Homer much? He faced better D-fronts from Michigan in college.

     

    Browns - 27

    Bills - 20

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoBills89:

    Bills Receiving core is much better than the browns secondary, and it's on the bills o line to get the ball in the end zone through the air. woods is coming along and at some point ej is gonna start hitting those long balls. Every week he has missed his target don the sidelines but has receivers who are flat out faster then their coverage. This will be the most dominant defensive line hoyer has ever played in his life, I just don't see him having another great performance. I'm not saying its a sure bet, Ni nfl games are, anf i still have to figure out how much I'm willing to risk on this game, but I would NEVER take the browns -4 on this. Your crazy

     

    "Best defensive line Hoyer has ever played in his life..."

    Little bit of a stretch there. Homer much? He faced better D-fronts from Michigan in college.

     

    Browns - 27

    Bills - 20

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 4:13 PM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by osu200200:


    usually the homers can give some decent insight about their team... not the case here. Browns probably have the best CB in the league, how exactly are the BILLS receivers "much better" than the Browns secondary???

    Joe Haden is only the 3rd or 4th best CB in his own division.   He has a couple good games, then gets burned for a few.  Not saying tonight is a night he gets burned, but he's not even close to being the best in the league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osu200200:


    usually the homers can give some decent insight about their team... not the case here. Browns probably have the best CB in the league, how exactly are the BILLS receivers "much better" than the Browns secondary???

    Joe Haden is only the 3rd or 4th best CB in his own division.   He has a couple good games, then gets burned for a few.  Not saying tonight is a night he gets burned, but he's not even close to being the best in the league.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 4:13 PM ET #60

    BILLS AND OVER!!!!
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    BILLS AND OVER!!!!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 4:14 PM ET #61

    BILLS AND OVER!!!!
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    BILLS AND OVER!!!!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 4:16 PM ET #62

    "Best defensive line Hoyer has ever played in his life..."

    Little bit of a stretch there. Homer much? He faced better D-fronts from Michigan in college.


    Obviously I'm a homer you bum- I would never bet on this game if I wasn't. I stand by my statement that hoyer has never faced a d line like buffalos, in college? like 5 years ago? no, and that line is gonna bring it in prime time. If you bet on the browns tonight your e
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    "Best defensive line Hoyer has ever played in his life..."

    Little bit of a stretch there. Homer much? He faced better D-fronts from Michigan in college.


    Obviously I'm a homer you bum- I would never bet on this game if I wasn't. I stand by my statement that hoyer has never faced a d line like buffalos, in college? like 5 years ago? no, and that line is gonna bring it in prime time. If you bet on the browns tonight your e
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 4:17 PM ET #63

    Either a Cleveland fan or a misinformed degenerate
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    Either a Cleveland fan or a misinformed degenerate
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 4:21 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by easypics:

     BROWN 
    BELIEF
    Not you Mystery Moose. . .
    1 Winning week out of 5 Dont Cut it.
      ,   °   " College football anyone " ? , °
    '°._,.,- 
     $ides Play
    BROWNS 23 BILLS 12
    BOLA

     I know pics. My gut tells me the Brownies get revenge for last years loss to the Bills. But I rarely bet on a second string QB to win and cover 3 weeks in a row. And as for the G-Men, it's called wishful thinking. Eagles certainly could smash this team and put them out of their misery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easypics:

     BROWN 
    BELIEF
    Not you Mystery Moose. . .
    1 Winning week out of 5 Dont Cut it.
      ,   °   " College football anyone " ? , °
    '°._,.,- 
     $ides Play
    BROWNS 23 BILLS 12
    BOLA

     I know pics. My gut tells me the Brownies get revenge for last years loss to the Bills. But I rarely bet on a second string QB to win and cover 3 weeks in a row. And as for the G-Men, it's called wishful thinking. Eagles certainly could smash this team and put them out of their misery.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 4:37 PM ET #65

    Buffalo plays a run-first offense (about 44% runplays with only ~32 throwing attemps per game). Considering the fact that Spiller and Jackson are both banged up, they should not be able to run the ball effectively on the road against the browns (2.9 yads per attempon defense). The Browns will force the Bills to throw - and win the turnover battle and the game. Browns -3.5
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    Buffalo plays a run-first offense (about 44% runplays with only ~32 throwing attemps per game). Considering the fact that Spiller and Jackson are both banged up, they should not be able to run the ball effectively on the road against the browns (2.9 yads per attempon defense). The Browns will force the Bills to throw - and win the turnover battle and the game. Browns -3.5
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 4:40 PM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by GoBills89:

    Either a Cleveland fan or a misinformed degenerate

    Degenerate i may be.. but i'll be making money taking the Browns tonight.

    Browns > Bills

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoBills89:

    Either a Cleveland fan or a misinformed degenerate

    Degenerate i may be.. but i'll be making money taking the Browns tonight.

    Browns > Bills

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 4:56 PM ET #67

    The Bills have a beat up secondary as well as entire team. There d is not very good as a result. Hoyer hasn't played a lot in his career but has been in league 7 years, 3 under the great one Brady!! They got broke by smelly jets so Manuel Lewis might get broke off by Mr. Brownvidere. Well See. Doc has got his face crushed on thur so fade if you must fools!!! Don't sweat weather its severe winds that break. A little rain wont melt ya. Cle and und for small
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    The Bills have a beat up secondary as well as entire team. There d is not very good as a result. Hoyer hasn't played a lot in his career but has been in league 7 years, 3 under the great one Brady!! They got broke by smelly jets so Manuel Lewis might get broke off by Mr. Brownvidere. Well See. Doc has got his face crushed on thur so fade if you must fools!!! Don't sweat weather its severe winds that break. A little rain wont melt ya. Cle and und for small
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 5:00 PM ET #68

    My burst I mmmmm....meant ovah

    If you’re not large, you’re small - the DOC
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    My burst I mmmmm....meant ovah

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 5:12 PM ET #69

    Quote Originally Posted by easypics:

     BROWN 
    BELIEF
    Not you Mystery Moose. . .
    1 Winning week out of 5 Dont Cut it.
      ,   °   " College football anyone " ? , °
    '°._,.,- 
    Illusive day has arrived  after X years , givin' Browns EZ POD NOD.
    ( Helps , being only game on Tap.)
     $eriously,  this game is up there among few as  play of the week for obvious reasons:
    Short week home sweet home fortified  with Brown's top notch
     4 th rated  D , Amongst Tops in sacks @ 17 , allowing 17 pts per game , coming off dominating win holding Bungels to 0 TD's n' more impressively to 29 % on 3rd down conversion.
    Vs 
    Bumbling ,sloppy  Road Bills  amongst tops in Penalty yrds at 293 to Brownies 178, allowing 23 Pts per game
    with Rook QB likely to face Bocoup Sack pressure = INTS
    Defense n' Discipline usually wins games.
    Bills = bottom' dwellin' 29 th in D .
    ( If Geno Smith can shred Bills secondary to 331 yrds) 
    Oscar Dela Hoyer  is likely to punch through via Breakout game , becoming first Brownie QB to win first 3 starts on
    October 3 rd ,  goin' for  Team win 3  taking Division lead.
    333 Magical evening in Cleveland ?
    Under normal Cap circumstances , Feel Strongly Bills will be held down to 12 Pts Tops.
    Clev. Native Hoyer will rise in National spotlight over weak Buffs D hardly standing in the way of  Division lead that Brownies WILL take.
    Under 41 is Bocoup Tempting however ,strongly believe Bills D will not show up in this short week,non divisional game.
    Browns Know it n' would not be surprising to see Browns eclipse 30 Pt Plateau.
    After all it's SHOWTIME

    BROWNS 23 BILLS 12
    BOLA

    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by easypics:

     BROWN 
    BELIEF
    Not you Mystery Moose. . .
    1 Winning week out of 5 Dont Cut it.
      ,   °   " College football anyone " ? , °
    '°._,.,- 
    Illusive day has arrived  after X years , givin' Browns EZ POD NOD.
    ( Helps , being only game on Tap.)
     $eriously,  this game is up there among few as  play of the week for obvious reasons:
    Short week home sweet home fortified  with Brown's top notch
     4 th rated  D , Amongst Tops in sacks @ 17 , allowing 17 pts per game , coming off dominating win holding Bungels to 0 TD's n' more impressively to 29 % on 3rd down conversion.
    Vs 
    Bumbling ,sloppy  Road Bills  amongst tops in Penalty yrds at 293 to Brownies 178, allowing 23 Pts per game
    with Rook QB likely to face Bocoup Sack pressure = INTS
    Defense n' Discipline usually wins games.
    Bills = bottom' dwellin' 29 th in D .
    ( If Geno Smith can shred Bills secondary to 331 yrds) 
    Oscar Dela Hoyer  is likely to punch through via Breakout game , becoming first Brownie QB to win first 3 starts on
    October 3 rd ,  goin' for  Team win 3  taking Division lead.
    333 Magical evening in Cleveland ?
    Under normal Cap circumstances , Feel Strongly Bills will be held down to 12 Pts Tops.
    Clev. Native Hoyer will rise in National spotlight over weak Buffs D hardly standing in the way of  Division lead that Brownies WILL take.
    Under 41 is Bocoup Tempting however ,strongly believe Bills D will not show up in this short week,non divisional game.
    Browns Know it n' would not be surprising to see Browns eclipse 30 Pt Plateau.
    After all it's SHOWTIME

    BROWNS 23 BILLS 12
    BOLA

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 5:14 PM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Shouta:

    seriously and what the f k does Philip Rivers record vs the NFC Least have to do with anything in this conversation?

    go ahead an jump off the cliff with all the other lemmings

    meanwhile...... the Bills are 

    1-9  ATS on road after home game
    3-11-1 ATS after ATS win
    2-5 ATS on grass playing surface

    Point well made. Breakabookie is off towards Vue's angle that is far from making a strong case for a Buffalo pick.His 22-20-4 record is certainly not questionable but worth mentioning ? Funny he should consider his record as not too shabby?That's funny.Browns - 4 is the play.Peace out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Shouta:

    seriously and what the f k does Philip Rivers record vs the NFC Least have to do with anything in this conversation?

    go ahead an jump off the cliff with all the other lemmings

    meanwhile...... the Bills are 

    1-9  ATS on road after home game
    3-11-1 ATS after ATS win
    2-5 ATS on grass playing surface

    Point well made. Breakabookie is off towards Vue's angle that is far from making a strong case for a Buffalo pick.His 22-20-4 record is certainly not questionable but worth mentioning ? Funny he should consider his record as not too shabby?That's funny.Browns - 4 is the play.Peace out.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 5:15 PM ET #71

    I'm bocoupin everbody!!!!!!
    If you’re not large, you’re small - the DOC
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    I'm bocoupin everbody!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 5:45 PM ET #72

    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Shouta:


    you had same bull s h i t angle when you were on the Browns as a road dog @ Baltimore in week 2 and I pointed out that it was totally baseless and inaccurate analysis then and I dont even need to look it up to point out the same thing now

     Buff and Cleve play each other once every 1 or 2 years depending on schedule and neither team bears much resemblance to the teams who competed in last years game, so your "historical" handicapping angle is about as useless as the monopoly money you are betting on the game

    I respect your opinion.  2 people can cap from different sources and very often, reach the same conclusions and bet on the same team. Each part of the handicapping puzzle offers different insights. I do use trends,but not exclusively. I also keep my own stats, and make my own PR's. Additionally, I confer with my friend whom is a professional capper. Best of luck on your picks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Shouta:


    you had same bull s h i t angle when you were on the Browns as a road dog @ Baltimore in week 2 and I pointed out that it was totally baseless and inaccurate analysis then and I dont even need to look it up to point out the same thing now

     Buff and Cleve play each other once every 1 or 2 years depending on schedule and neither team bears much resemblance to the teams who competed in last years game, so your "historical" handicapping angle is about as useless as the monopoly money you are betting on the game

    I respect your opinion.  2 people can cap from different sources and very often, reach the same conclusions and bet on the same team. Each part of the handicapping puzzle offers different insights. I do use trends,but not exclusively. I also keep my own stats, and make my own PR's. Additionally, I confer with my friend whom is a professional capper. Best of luck on your picks!

     
    DrDogs
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 5:51 PM ET #73

    Jesus christo Hoyer looks like Slim Shady!! He gonna rap buffalo to deff!!! Hoyer my name is hoyer my name is!!

    If you’re not large, you’re small - the DOC
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    Jesus christo Hoyer looks like Slim Shady!! He gonna rap buffalo to deff!!! Hoyer my name is hoyer my name is!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 6:24 PM ET #74

    Took a teaser

    Bills +10.5

    Small
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    Took a teaser

    Bills +10.5

    Small
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 6:27 PM ET #75

    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Shouta:

    seriously and what the f k does Philip Rivers record vs the NFC Least have to do with anything in this conversation?

    go ahead an jump off the cliff with all the other lemmings

    meanwhile...... the Bills are 

    1-9  ATS on road after home game
    3-11-1 ATS after ATS win
    2-5 ATS on grass playing surface
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Shouta:

    seriously and what the f k does Philip Rivers record vs the NFC Least have to do with anything in this conversation?

    go ahead an jump off the cliff with all the other lemmings

    meanwhile...... the Bills are 

    1-9  ATS on road after home game
    3-11-1 ATS after ATS win
    2-5 ATS on grass playing surface
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