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    Buffalo at Cleveland (10/03/2013)

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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2013 - 8:36 AM ET #1

    Away:  Buffalo [3-1 ATS]
    Home:  Cleveland [2-2 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:25 PM
    Stadium: FirstEnergy Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Buffalo:
    Passing: E.J. Manuel (856)
    Rushing: Fred Jackson (256)
    Receiving: Stevie Johnson (235)

    Cleveland:
    Passing: Brian Hoyer (590)
    Rushing: Willis McGahee (55)
    Receiving: Jordan Cameron (360)

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    Away:  Buffalo [3-1 ATS]
    Home:  Cleveland [2-2 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:25 PM
    Stadium: FirstEnergy Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Buffalo:
    Passing: E.J. Manuel (856)
    Rushing: Fred Jackson (256)
    Receiving: Stevie Johnson (235)

    Cleveland:
    Passing: Brian Hoyer (590)
    Rushing: Willis McGahee (55)
    Receiving: Jordan Cameron (360)

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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 1:24 AM ET #2

    Bills +4 Middle play. 
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    Bills +4 Middle play. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 1:48 AM ET #3

    Browns get it done in the dogpound. Under looks great too.
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    Browns get it done in the dogpound. Under looks great too.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 5:12 AM ET #4

    The Browns get the luxury to play 2nd of their 3 straight home games(a bonus for them after playing a hard fought Bengals game). they have the slight advantage in this short week.all four games they have started out strong defensively and take the lead going into the half but now have found a way to hold on and finish games.

    Bills are no pushovers either. they have been competitive at home and won 2 games but I just can't see them having as much success on the road once again against another stout defense like the Browns.. not with two banged up running backs. Browns have more competent playmakers on offense than Jets.

    With a chance to leap early into 1st place in division and keep proving to public and fans that they aren't throwing in the towel yet you have to like them in this spot. then again, they are the Brownies and anything can happen in this game. It may be an close and ugly game with a fair amount of turnovers that decides the winner of this match. I think the Browns can win straight up, but will they cover? player matchup favors Browns, but historical trend is against them

    the two things that makes me a little hesitant is:

    Bills are 6-1 in their last 7 against the AFC North

    Browns are is 1-5 in their last 6 the next game after Bengals

    I could see this being a 23-17 game just as easily as I can see this as 13-10 score. with the Browns covering more as an underdog at home than they do as favorite(ex. vs Mia) i'm gonna have to think about the -4.5 point a little bit..  

     

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    The Browns get the luxury to play 2nd of their 3 straight home games(a bonus for them after playing a hard fought Bengals game). they have the slight advantage in this short week.all four games they have started out strong defensively and take the lead going into the half but now have found a way to hold on and finish games.

    Bills are no pushovers either. they have been competitive at home and won 2 games but I just can't see them having as much success on the road once again against another stout defense like the Browns.. not with two banged up running backs. Browns have more competent playmakers on offense than Jets.

    With a chance to leap early into 1st place in division and keep proving to public and fans that they aren't throwing in the towel yet you have to like them in this spot. then again, they are the Brownies and anything can happen in this game. It may be an close and ugly game with a fair amount of turnovers that decides the winner of this match. I think the Browns can win straight up, but will they cover? player matchup favors Browns, but historical trend is against them

    the two things that makes me a little hesitant is:

    Bills are 6-1 in their last 7 against the AFC North

    Browns are is 1-5 in their last 6 the next game after Bengals

    I could see this being a 23-17 game just as easily as I can see this as 13-10 score. with the Browns covering more as an underdog at home than they do as favorite(ex. vs Mia) i'm gonna have to think about the -4.5 point a little bit..  

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 9:01 AM ET #5

    I suggest to wait until sunday since there are way much more interesting and easier games than this....

    If you HAVE TO bet go ... UNDER
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    I suggest to wait until sunday since there are way much more interesting and easier games than this....

    If you HAVE TO bet go ... UNDER
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 10:42 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Joe:

    I suggest to wait until sunday since there are way much more interesting and easier games than this....

    If you HAVE TO bet go ... UNDER

    Wait until Sunday?

    WAIT UNTIL SUNDAY?!?!?!?!?

    But, but, but, there's football on Thursday, I don't understand..... How DARE you speak suck blasphemy!!!!!!!!!

    HAHAHA!!!!!

    Just going off of my gut - M/L parlaying the Brownies with UCLA - pays almost even money, but this is a "freebie" bet for me anyways.....

    Good Luck All!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Joe:

    I suggest to wait until sunday since there are way much more interesting and easier games than this....

    If you HAVE TO bet go ... UNDER

    Wait until Sunday?

    WAIT UNTIL SUNDAY?!?!?!?!?

    But, but, but, there's football on Thursday, I don't understand..... How DARE you speak suck blasphemy!!!!!!!!!

    HAHAHA!!!!!

    Just going off of my gut - M/L parlaying the Brownies with UCLA - pays almost even money, but this is a "freebie" bet for me anyways.....

    Good Luck All!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 11:13 AM ET #7

    Johnny Cochran say "If there is a game today, You must play"
    If you’re not large, you’re small - the DOC
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    Johnny Cochran say "If there is a game today, You must play"
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 11:15 AM ET #8

    I keep getting blasted on these damn thursday games. You got turd vs turd revitalized! Two weeks ago these teams were in gutter now there is hope for em. Hope is bad.

    If you’re not large, you’re small - the DOC
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    I keep getting blasted on these damn thursday games. You got turd vs turd revitalized! Two weeks ago these teams were in gutter now there is hope for em. Hope is bad.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 12:47 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Joe:

    I suggest to wait until sunday since there are way much more interesting and easier games than this....

    If you HAVE TO bet go ... UNDER

    If you wait till Sunday, the game will be 3 days old. It might be another hard pick for ya. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Joe:

    I suggest to wait until sunday since there are way much more interesting and easier games than this....

    If you HAVE TO bet go ... UNDER

    If you wait till Sunday, the game will be 3 days old. It might be another hard pick for ya. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 3:23 PM ET #10

    BILLS BILLS BILLS I WIN :)
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    BILLS BILLS BILLS I WIN :)
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 3:28 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Joe:

    I suggest to wait until sunday since there are way much more interesting and easier games than this....

    If you HAVE TO bet go ... UNDER
    thursday*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Joe:

    I suggest to wait until sunday since there are way much more interesting and easier games than this....

    If you HAVE TO bet go ... UNDER
    thursday*
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 3:40 PM ET #12

    Browns @ home and under 2 solid Ds
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    Browns @ home and under 2 solid Ds
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 5:00 PM ET #13

    Both teams are coming off big emotional wins.I give the edge to the Browns as they got to remain at home and Bills travel on the short week.This in all rights should be a defensive game but turnovers could offer up some easy points.

    I would have to say Browns on the M/L or Under the total. 

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    Both teams are coming off big emotional wins.I give the edge to the Browns as they got to remain at home and Bills travel on the short week.This in all rights should be a defensive game but turnovers could offer up some easy points.

    I would have to say Browns on the M/L or Under the total. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2013 - 5:14 PM ET #14

    2 turd teams....avoid like the plague
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    2 turd teams....avoid like the plague
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nhenley:

    2 turd teams....avoid like the plague
    Turdfests are usually low scoring
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nhenley:

    2 turd teams....avoid like the plague
    Turdfests are usually low scoring
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 2:36 AM ET #16

    tuff game to call better off sticking with college on thurs
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    tuff game to call better off sticking with college on thurs
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 12:47 PM ET #17

    Bills Receiving core is much better than the browns secondary, and it's on the bills o line to get the ball in the end zone through the air. woods is coming along and at some point ej is gonna start hitting those long balls. Every week he has missed his target don the sidelines but has receivers who are flat out faster then their coverage. This will be the most dominant defensive line hoyer has ever played in his life, I just don't see him having another great performance. I'm not saying its a sure bet, Ni nfl games are, anf i still have to figure out how much I'm willing to risk on this game, but I would NEVER take the browns -4 on this. Your crazy
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    Bills Receiving core is much better than the browns secondary, and it's on the bills o line to get the ball in the end zone through the air. woods is coming along and at some point ej is gonna start hitting those long balls. Every week he has missed his target don the sidelines but has receivers who are flat out faster then their coverage. This will be the most dominant defensive line hoyer has ever played in his life, I just don't see him having another great performance. I'm not saying its a sure bet, Ni nfl games are, anf i still have to figure out how much I'm willing to risk on this game, but I would NEVER take the browns -4 on this. Your crazy
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 1:24 PM ET #18

    Buffalo coming off big home win..expended def now on the road vs. A hungry fiesty Dogpound squad at home and looking to build. Cle/over
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    Buffalo coming off big home win..expended def now on the road vs. A hungry fiesty Dogpound squad at home and looking to build. Cle/over
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 2:30 PM ET #19

    bills are terrible as a road dog, this one is easy
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    bills are terrible as a road dog, this one is easy
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 2:46 PM ET #20

    When was the last time the Cleveland browns had the opportunity to be the first place in their division? ... If they win on Thursday night will be the best team in their division at least three days. Cleveland's past history does not help them to trust them. Cleveland has a good lead, they have three home games in a row. Last week welcomed the Cincinnati Bengalis team defeated their division and 17-6, their defense only got six points in that game. Before that they defeated Minnesota as the visiting team scoring 31 points. Defense is the best weapon in Cleveland, they receive on average 17.5 points per game, they are averaging 14.5 points per game when they play at home. It has the advantage of playing at home and winning this game would pass to the top of their division. We must also consider the psychological factor, they know the importance of winning at home on Thursday next week because they will receive a visit from the Detroit Lions a team that could give more fight.
    The games Thursday night're usually low-scoring games, this season's record over / under is 2-2. In a detailed analysis to my choice to lean over. Cleveland averages in the last two games 24 points per game, second Buffalo receives 23.5 points per game even though they faced few points scoring teams like Baltimore and Ny Jets.

    PICK: CLEVELAND -4 / / OVER 40.5

    PREDICTION: BUFFALO 17- 27 CLEVELAND
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    When was the last time the Cleveland browns had the opportunity to be the first place in their division? ... If they win on Thursday night will be the best team in their division at least three days. Cleveland's past history does not help them to trust them. Cleveland has a good lead, they have three home games in a row. Last week welcomed the Cincinnati Bengalis team defeated their division and 17-6, their defense only got six points in that game. Before that they defeated Minnesota as the visiting team scoring 31 points. Defense is the best weapon in Cleveland, they receive on average 17.5 points per game, they are averaging 14.5 points per game when they play at home. It has the advantage of playing at home and winning this game would pass to the top of their division. We must also consider the psychological factor, they know the importance of winning at home on Thursday next week because they will receive a visit from the Detroit Lions a team that could give more fight.
    The games Thursday night're usually low-scoring games, this season's record over / under is 2-2. In a detailed analysis to my choice to lean over. Cleveland averages in the last two games 24 points per game, second Buffalo receives 23.5 points per game even though they faced few points scoring teams like Baltimore and Ny Jets.

    PICK: CLEVELAND -4 / / OVER 40.5

    PREDICTION: BUFFALO 17- 27 CLEVELAND
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 5:23 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Chef76:

    Browns get it done in the dogpound. Under looks great too.

    DUDE YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT ----- remove your post, spare the confused ones of listening and losing $$$$......

    OVER is the only play here.... 2 second and third string QB's, played good past weeks - racked up yards low INT's.... They both want to keep their positions and will play safe perfect ball third week in the slot.

    Browns missing a RB, WILL HAVE PASS ATTACK IN PLACE.
    4th QUARTER CALLS THE GAME. Total should be 46 to 49 - being sold at 40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef76:

    Browns get it done in the dogpound. Under looks great too.

    DUDE YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT ----- remove your post, spare the confused ones of listening and losing $$$$......

    OVER is the only play here.... 2 second and third string QB's, played good past weeks - racked up yards low INT's.... They both want to keep their positions and will play safe perfect ball third week in the slot.

    Browns missing a RB, WILL HAVE PASS ATTACK IN PLACE.
    4th QUARTER CALLS THE GAME. Total should be 46 to 49 - being sold at 40
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 5:30 PM ET #22

    Take the OVER 40, should be listed at 46 to 49 easy

    A touchdown each team each quarter. Add it up
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    Take the OVER 40, should be listed at 46 to 49 easy

    A touchdown each team each quarter. Add it up
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 5:44 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by GoBills89:

    Bills Receiving core is much better than the browns secondary, and it's on the bills o line to get the ball in the end zone through the air. woods is coming along and at some point ej is gonna start hitting those long balls. Every week he has missed his target don the sidelines but has receivers who are flat out faster then their coverage. This will be the most dominant defensive line hoyer has ever played in his life, I just don't see him having another great performance. I'm not saying its a sure bet, Ni nfl games are, anf i still have to figure out how much I'm willing to risk on this game, but I would NEVER take the browns -4 on this. Your crazy

    wait so you're saying a gimpy Stevie Johnson who might not even play and a couple nobodies are better than Browns #3 overall defense and especially Joe Haden in the secondary?

    as for the Bills they have the 22nd ranked pass defense allowing  272 yards a game passing and have played the Jets, Ravens, Panthers, and Patriots.....not exactly teams who are lighting up the scoreboard via the pass


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    Quote Originally Posted by GoBills89:

    Bills Receiving core is much better than the browns secondary, and it's on the bills o line to get the ball in the end zone through the air. woods is coming along and at some point ej is gonna start hitting those long balls. Every week he has missed his target don the sidelines but has receivers who are flat out faster then their coverage. This will be the most dominant defensive line hoyer has ever played in his life, I just don't see him having another great performance. I'm not saying its a sure bet, Ni nfl games are, anf i still have to figure out how much I'm willing to risk on this game, but I would NEVER take the browns -4 on this. Your crazy

    wait so you're saying a gimpy Stevie Johnson who might not even play and a couple nobodies are better than Browns #3 overall defense and especially Joe Haden in the secondary?

    as for the Bills they have the 22nd ranked pass defense allowing  272 yards a game passing and have played the Jets, Ravens, Panthers, and Patriots.....not exactly teams who are lighting up the scoreboard via the pass


     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 5:47 PM ET #24

       Buffalo has played Cleveland very well in the past. Although, Brandon Weedon comes back from injury, the Brownie's might be very well advised to stick with Brian Hoyer. See this as a close game,and liking the points here. If Spiller does play,it could be a long day for Cleveland.

    BUFFALO   +  4

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       Buffalo has played Cleveland very well in the past. Although, Brandon Weedon comes back from injury, the Brownie's might be very well advised to stick with Brian Hoyer. See this as a close game,and liking the points here. If Spiller does play,it could be a long day for Cleveland.

    BUFFALO   +  4

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 9:00 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

       Buffalo has played Cleveland very well in the past. Although, Brandon Weedon comes back from injury, the Brownie's might be very well advised to stick with Brian Hoyer. See this as a close game,and liking the points here. If Spiller does play,it could be a long day for Cleveland.

    BUFFALO   +  4


    Vue...No offense, but considering your posted win percentage I would advise on focusing more on the now and relevant information than looking at past results. Appreciate your input nonetheless. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

       Buffalo has played Cleveland very well in the past. Although, Brandon Weedon comes back from injury, the Brownie's might be very well advised to stick with Brian Hoyer. See this as a close game,and liking the points here. If Spiller does play,it could be a long day for Cleveland.

    BUFFALO   +  4


    Vue...No offense, but considering your posted win percentage I would advise on focusing more on the now and relevant information than looking at past results. Appreciate your input nonetheless. 
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