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    Buffalo at Cleveland (10/03/2013)

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    DJNY
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 9:35 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by DJNY:


    Vue...No offense, but considering your posted win percentage I would advise on focusing more on the now and relevant information than looking at past results. Appreciate your input nonetheless. 

    To be fair I just added up last weeks complete results and you were actually in the black! My apologies sir, I should look at all posted plays before passing judgement! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJNY:


    Vue...No offense, but considering your posted win percentage I would advise on focusing more on the now and relevant information than looking at past results. Appreciate your input nonetheless. 

    To be fair I just added up last weeks complete results and you were actually in the black! My apologies sir, I should look at all posted plays before passing judgement! 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 10:02 PM ET #27

    2nd thought/impression: I think both defenses will create some turnovers and some 3 and outs. I can see both QB's getting picked off at least once or twice. altho looking at EJ Manuels turnover pattern he shouldn't have a turnover in this game if u believe in that kind of stuff. he hasn't lost a turnover on the road yet..but will he this time hmmm? i'm thinking he does.

    I think both offenses can make some big plays but Cleveland more so. Bills haven't faced anyone like Jordan Cameron and most likely wont be dropping clutch passes like Ed Dickson that's for sure. Josh Gordon against Bills secondary.. Torrey Smith was able to burn the secondary to the tune of 166 yds and a TD.. ican almost see similar stats. Bills have decent recievers but I just can't see Stevie Johnson having a monster game with Joe Haden in his face all day.

    problem with Baltimore they gave up running the ball. 9 run plays that is just unacceptable! I see Browns pounding the rock regardless if its successful or not. at least 20 touches for at least 60 yds or more with McGahee . Bills run defense still a bit suspect to me. I think the Bills will try to do the same and will get at least 90 yds combine from both running backs.

    I guess i'll stick to my initial gut and eat the chalk. Browns -4 , and "under"  if I had to pick a total. final score: 23-16

    good luck all!!

    Sip on that plus money honey!
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    2nd thought/impression: I think both defenses will create some turnovers and some 3 and outs. I can see both QB's getting picked off at least once or twice. altho looking at EJ Manuels turnover pattern he shouldn't have a turnover in this game if u believe in that kind of stuff. he hasn't lost a turnover on the road yet..but will he this time hmmm? i'm thinking he does.

    I think both offenses can make some big plays but Cleveland more so. Bills haven't faced anyone like Jordan Cameron and most likely wont be dropping clutch passes like Ed Dickson that's for sure. Josh Gordon against Bills secondary.. Torrey Smith was able to burn the secondary to the tune of 166 yds and a TD.. ican almost see similar stats. Bills have decent recievers but I just can't see Stevie Johnson having a monster game with Joe Haden in his face all day.

    problem with Baltimore they gave up running the ball. 9 run plays that is just unacceptable! I see Browns pounding the rock regardless if its successful or not. at least 20 touches for at least 60 yds or more with McGahee . Bills run defense still a bit suspect to me. I think the Bills will try to do the same and will get at least 90 yds combine from both running backs.

    I guess i'll stick to my initial gut and eat the chalk. Browns -4 , and "under"  if I had to pick a total. final score: 23-16

    good luck all!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 11:08 PM ET #28

    OU Trends

    BuffaloUnder is 4-0 in Bills last 4 games after accumulating more than 150 yards rushing in their previous game.
    Over is 6-1 in Bills last 7 games in Week 5.Under is 12-3-1 in Bills last 16 games on grass.
    Under is 4-1 in Bills last 5 vs. AFC.Over is 8-3 in Bills last 11 games in October.
    Over is 12-5-1 in Bills last 18 games after allowing more than 250 yards passing in their previous game.
    Cleveland Under is 7-1 in Browns last 8 games after allowing less than 90 yards rushing in their previous game.
    Under is 6-1 in Browns last 7 games following a S.U. win.
    Under is 4-1 in Browns last 5 games overall.
    Under is 12-3 in Browns last 15 home games.Under is 16-5 in Browns last 21 vs. AFC.
    Under is 3-1-1 in Browns last 5 Thursday games.
    Under is 18-7-1 in Browns last 26 games on grass.Under is 5-2 in Browns last 7 games in October.
    Under is 5-2 in Browns last 7 games following a ATS win.
    Under is 7-3-1 in Browns last 11 games after allowing less than 15 points in their previous game.

    Head to Head

    Under is 4-1 in the last 5 meetings
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    OU Trends

    BuffaloUnder is 4-0 in Bills last 4 games after accumulating more than 150 yards rushing in their previous game.
    Over is 6-1 in Bills last 7 games in Week 5.Under is 12-3-1 in Bills last 16 games on grass.
    Under is 4-1 in Bills last 5 vs. AFC.Over is 8-3 in Bills last 11 games in October.
    Over is 12-5-1 in Bills last 18 games after allowing more than 250 yards passing in their previous game.
    Cleveland Under is 7-1 in Browns last 8 games after allowing less than 90 yards rushing in their previous game.
    Under is 6-1 in Browns last 7 games following a S.U. win.
    Under is 4-1 in Browns last 5 games overall.
    Under is 12-3 in Browns last 15 home games.Under is 16-5 in Browns last 21 vs. AFC.
    Under is 3-1-1 in Browns last 5 Thursday games.
    Under is 18-7-1 in Browns last 26 games on grass.Under is 5-2 in Browns last 7 games in October.
    Under is 5-2 in Browns last 7 games following a ATS win.
    Under is 7-3-1 in Browns last 11 games after allowing less than 15 points in their previous game.

    Head to Head

    Under is 4-1 in the last 5 meetings
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 11:54 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by DJNY:


    To be fair I just added up last weeks complete results and you were actually in the black! My apologies sir, I should look at all posted plays before passing judgement! 

    Funny and bizarre actually. Other post you criticize looking at past results and this post you apologize for not checking last weeks results. Look at the past and you will see up to now , last week was his only winning week between college and pros.Peace out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJNY:


    To be fair I just added up last weeks complete results and you were actually in the black! My apologies sir, I should look at all posted plays before passing judgement! 

    Funny and bizarre actually. Other post you criticize looking at past results and this post you apologize for not checking last weeks results. Look at the past and you will see up to now , last week was his only winning week between college and pros.Peace out.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 12:11 AM ET #30

    over is the right play here
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    over is the right play here
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 12:22 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by Masb270:


    DUDE YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT ----- remove your post, spare the confused ones of listening and losing $$$$......

    OVER is the only play here.... 2 second and third string QB's, played good past weeks - racked up yards low INT's.... They both want to keep their positions and will play safe perfect ball third week in the slot.

    Browns missing a RB, WILL HAVE PASS ATTACK IN PLACE.
    4th QUARTER CALLS THE GAME. Total should be 46 to 49 - being sold at 40

    We shall see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masb270:


    DUDE YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT ----- remove your post, spare the confused ones of listening and losing $$$$......

    OVER is the only play here.... 2 second and third string QB's, played good past weeks - racked up yards low INT's.... They both want to keep their positions and will play safe perfect ball third week in the slot.

    Browns missing a RB, WILL HAVE PASS ATTACK IN PLACE.
    4th QUARTER CALLS THE GAME. Total should be 46 to 49 - being sold at 40

    We shall see.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 12:28 AM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by DJNY:


    Vue...No offense, but considering your posted win percentage I would advise on focusing more on the now and relevant information than looking at past results. Appreciate your input nonetheless. 

     

    Always appreciate your concern on my capping.  The season's early and I will be turning things around shortly. Please monitor my progress. Currently I'm doing a "posted" 22-20-4- that's breakeven -$0 won nor lost -52.38%. Last week my posted plays did 6-3-1. .Not bragging--but that's not too shabby either. Keep in touch buddy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJNY:


    Vue...No offense, but considering your posted win percentage I would advise on focusing more on the now and relevant information than looking at past results. Appreciate your input nonetheless. 

     

    Always appreciate your concern on my capping.  The season's early and I will be turning things around shortly. Please monitor my progress. Currently I'm doing a "posted" 22-20-4- that's breakeven -$0 won nor lost -52.38%. Last week my posted plays did 6-3-1. .Not bragging--but that's not too shabby either. Keep in touch buddy!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 1:04 AM ET #33

    people taking the bills, a team that cant win on the road or cover as a road dog, and the over is laughable


    Browns is the easiest of the Thursday picks, along with the under
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    people taking the bills, a team that cant win on the road or cover as a road dog, and the over is laughable


    Browns is the easiest of the Thursday picks, along with the under
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 1:06 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by DrDogs:

    I keep getting blasted on these damn thursday games. You got turd vs turd revitalized! Two weeks ago these teams were in gutter now there is hope for em. Hope is bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDogs:

    I keep getting blasted on these damn thursday games. You got turd vs turd revitalized! Two weeks ago these teams were in gutter now there is hope for em. Hope is bad.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 1:31 AM ET #35

    I'm on the under.....

    took QB on the road with gimpy weapons....

    vs solid defense at home in the dog pound

     

    I see a 24-10 game

     

    I also took the browns in my suicide poll and I'm scared shitless lol

     

    GL to all.....

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    I'm on the under.....

    took QB on the road with gimpy weapons....

    vs solid defense at home in the dog pound

     

    I see a 24-10 game

     

    I also took the browns in my suicide poll and I'm scared shitless lol

     

    GL to all.....

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 1:33 AM ET #36

    Rook QB on the road with gimpy weapons****

     

    damn autocorrect

     

    can anybody stop this Cameron guy????

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    Rook QB on the road with gimpy weapons****

     

    damn autocorrect

     

    can anybody stop this Cameron guy????

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 1:34 AM ET #37

    I am betting that Buffalo won't lose by 4,  I am new so I don't get how the betting works too well I live in Canada, All I played was sports select which would be like a parlay I guess. 
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    I am betting that Buffalo won't lose by 4,  I am new so I don't get how the betting works too well I live in Canada, All I played was sports select which would be like a parlay I guess. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 6:46 AM ET #38

    Taking Buff +4.5 and the over.

     

    GL

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    Taking Buff +4.5 and the over.

     

    GL

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 6:54 AM ET #39

    Cleveland - 23                                    Buffalo - 20

    Bills +3.5                                      over 40.5

    Browns win, Bills cover.

    Bet against the Browns as a non-division fav coming off a su dog win. 

    Bills - Over  

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    Cleveland - 23                                    Buffalo - 20

    Bills +3.5                                      over 40.5

    Browns win, Bills cover.

    Bet against the Browns as a non-division fav coming off a su dog win. 

    Bills - Over  

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 8:09 AM ET #40

    dog pound gets it done at home.. buying it down to -3, small play..

    i know theres better games then this Sunday, but i gotta problem!

    so for entertainment browns -3 small.. parlay the under.. prob tease it..
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    dog pound gets it done at home.. buying it down to -3, small play..

    i know theres better games then this Sunday, but i gotta problem!

    so for entertainment browns -3 small.. parlay the under.. prob tease it..
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 8:23 AM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by GoBills89:

    Bills Receiving core is much better than the browns secondary, and it's on the bills o line to get the ball in the end zone through the air. woods is coming along and at some point ej is gonna start hitting those long balls. Every week he has missed his target don the sidelines but has receivers who are flat out faster then their coverage. This will be the most dominant defensive line hoyer has ever played in his life, I just don't see him having another great performance. I'm not saying its a sure bet, Ni nfl games are, anf i still have to figure out how much I'm willing to risk on this game, but I would NEVER take the browns -4 on this. Your crazy

    usually the homers can give some decent insight about their team... not the case here. Browns probably have the best CB in the league, how exactly are the BILLS receivers "much better" than the Browns secondary???
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoBills89:

    Bills Receiving core is much better than the browns secondary, and it's on the bills o line to get the ball in the end zone through the air. woods is coming along and at some point ej is gonna start hitting those long balls. Every week he has missed his target don the sidelines but has receivers who are flat out faster then their coverage. This will be the most dominant defensive line hoyer has ever played in his life, I just don't see him having another great performance. I'm not saying its a sure bet, Ni nfl games are, anf i still have to figure out how much I'm willing to risk on this game, but I would NEVER take the browns -4 on this. Your crazy

    usually the homers can give some decent insight about their team... not the case here. Browns probably have the best CB in the league, how exactly are the BILLS receivers "much better" than the Browns secondary???
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 8:38 AM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by Masb270:


    DUDE YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT ----- remove your post, spare the confused ones of listening and losing $$$$......

    OVER is the only play here.... 2 second and third string QB's, played good past weeks - racked up yards low INT's.... They both want to keep their positions and will play safe perfect ball third week in the slot.

    Browns missing a RB, WILL HAVE PASS ATTACK IN PLACE.
    4th QUARTER CALLS THE GAME. Total should be 46 to 49 - being sold at 40

    LOOK at what YOU are saying. both qbs will play SAFE. Playing "safe" leads to check downs and punts. I have so much left to argue on why this goes under but too little time. Your analysis alone contradicts your prediction. and then you have the nerve to call someone else an idiot? You got any money?? GIVE IT TO ME

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masb270:


    DUDE YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT ----- remove your post, spare the confused ones of listening and losing $$$$......

    OVER is the only play here.... 2 second and third string QB's, played good past weeks - racked up yards low INT's.... They both want to keep their positions and will play safe perfect ball third week in the slot.

    Browns missing a RB, WILL HAVE PASS ATTACK IN PLACE.
    4th QUARTER CALLS THE GAME. Total should be 46 to 49 - being sold at 40

    LOOK at what YOU are saying. both qbs will play SAFE. Playing "safe" leads to check downs and punts. I have so much left to argue on why this goes under but too little time. Your analysis alone contradicts your prediction. and then you have the nerve to call someone else an idiot? You got any money?? GIVE IT TO ME

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 9:01 AM ET #43

     BROWN 
    BELIEF
    Not you Mystery Moose. . .
    1 Winning week out of 5 Dont Cut it.
      ,   °   " College football anyone " ? , °
    '°._,.,- 
    Illusive day has arrived  after X years , givin' Browns EZ POD NOD.
    ( Helps , being only game on Tap.)
     $eriously,  this game is up there among few as  play of the week for obvious reasons:
    Short week home sweet home fortified  with Brown's top notch
     4 th rated  D , Amongst Tops in sacks @ 17 , allowing 17 pts per game , coming off dominating win holding Bungels to 0 TD's n' more impressively to 29 % on 3rd down conversion.
    Vs 
    Bumbling ,sloppy  Road Bills  amongst tops in Penalty yrds at 293 to Brownies 178, allowing 23 Pts per game
    with Rook QB likely to face Bocoup Sack pressure = INTS
    Defense n' Discipline usually wins games.
    Bills = bottom' dwellin' 29 th in D .
    ( If Geno Smith can shred Bills secondary to 331 yrds) 
    Oscar Dela Hoyer  is likely to punch through via Breakout game , becoming first Brownie QB to win first 3 starts on
    October 3 rd ,  goin' for  Team win 3  taking Division lead.
    333 Magical evening in Cleveland ?
    Under normal Cap circumstances , Feel Strongly Bills will be held down to 12 Pts Tops.
    Clev. Native Hoyer will rise in National spotlight over weak Buffs D hardly standing in the way of  Division lead that Brownies WILL take.
    Under 41 is Bocoup Tempting however ,strongly believe Bills D will not show up in this short week,non divisional game.
    Browns Know it n' would not be surprising to see Browns eclipse 30 Pt Plateau.
    After all it's SHOWTIME
     $ides Play
    BROWNS 23 BILLS 12
    BOLA
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     BROWN 
    BELIEF
    Not you Mystery Moose. . .
    1 Winning week out of 5 Dont Cut it.
      ,   °   " College football anyone " ? , °
    '°._,.,- 
    Illusive day has arrived  after X years , givin' Browns EZ POD NOD.
    ( Helps , being only game on Tap.)
     $eriously,  this game is up there among few as  play of the week for obvious reasons:
    Short week home sweet home fortified  with Brown's top notch
     4 th rated  D , Amongst Tops in sacks @ 17 , allowing 17 pts per game , coming off dominating win holding Bungels to 0 TD's n' more impressively to 29 % on 3rd down conversion.
    Vs 
    Bumbling ,sloppy  Road Bills  amongst tops in Penalty yrds at 293 to Brownies 178, allowing 23 Pts per game
    with Rook QB likely to face Bocoup Sack pressure = INTS
    Defense n' Discipline usually wins games.
    Bills = bottom' dwellin' 29 th in D .
    ( If Geno Smith can shred Bills secondary to 331 yrds) 
    Oscar Dela Hoyer  is likely to punch through via Breakout game , becoming first Brownie QB to win first 3 starts on
    October 3 rd ,  goin' for  Team win 3  taking Division lead.
    333 Magical evening in Cleveland ?
    Under normal Cap circumstances , Feel Strongly Bills will be held down to 12 Pts Tops.
    Clev. Native Hoyer will rise in National spotlight over weak Buffs D hardly standing in the way of  Division lead that Brownies WILL take.
    Under 41 is Bocoup Tempting however ,strongly believe Bills D will not show up in this short week,non divisional game.
    Browns Know it n' would not be surprising to see Browns eclipse 30 Pt Plateau.
    After all it's SHOWTIME
     $ides Play
    BROWNS 23 BILLS 12
    BOLA
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 9:14 AM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

    Cleveland - 23                                    Buffalo - 20

    Bills +3.5                                      over 40.5

    Browns win, Bills cover.

    Bet against the Browns as a non-division fav coming off a su dog win. 

    Bills - Over  


    Need an eraser for that Bills 20 spot Mon Colonel...
    Put a 1 over it n' Stay cool # 1 as you are.

    Careful with them Gigantes...Harder they fall they say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

    Cleveland - 23                                    Buffalo - 20

    Bills +3.5                                      over 40.5

    Browns win, Bills cover.

    Bet against the Browns as a non-division fav coming off a su dog win. 

    Bills - Over  


    Need an eraser for that Bills 20 spot Mon Colonel...
    Put a 1 over it n' Stay cool # 1 as you are.

    Careful with them Gigantes...Harder they fall they say.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 10:49 AM ET #45

    "usually the homers can give some decent insight about their team... not the case here. Browns probably have the best CB in the league, how exactly are the BILLS receivers "much better" than the Browns ??

    Buffaloes receivers are better than you think, and Haden can't shutdown s Johnson if a healthy revis can't. If a healthy Sherman can't. I don't need to go into each receiver and explain why their better- but they are. And they haven't been covered all season, they just need the ball delivered faster and more accurately. This game has been circled as an easy win since the sched came out. Browns won 2 games, big deal, I think buffalo from top to bottom is a better team this year ( and the last few) and I can't say that about too many teams the bills face.
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    "usually the homers can give some decent insight about their team... not the case here. Browns probably have the best CB in the league, how exactly are the BILLS receivers "much better" than the Browns ??

    Buffaloes receivers are better than you think, and Haden can't shutdown s Johnson if a healthy revis can't. If a healthy Sherman can't. I don't need to go into each receiver and explain why their better- but they are. And they haven't been covered all season, they just need the ball delivered faster and more accurately. This game has been circled as an easy win since the sched came out. Browns won 2 games, big deal, I think buffalo from top to bottom is a better team this year ( and the last few) and I can't say that about too many teams the bills face.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 11:26 AM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by GoBills89:

    "usually the homers can give some decent insight about their team... not the case here. Browns probably have the best CB in the league, how exactly are the BILLS receivers "much better" than the Browns ??

    Buffaloes receivers are better than you think, and Haden can't shutdown s Johnson if a healthy revis can't. If a healthy Sherman can't. I don't need to go into each receiver and explain why their better- but they are. And they haven't been covered all season, they just need the ball delivered faster and more accurately. This game has been circled as an easy win since the sched came out. Browns won 2 games, big deal, I think buffalo from top to bottom is a better team this year ( and the last few) and I can't say that about too many teams the bills face.

    the browns don't circle any games as easy wins... also I'd argue that haden is better than revis
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by GoBills89:

    "usually the homers can give some decent insight about their team... not the case here. Browns probably have the best CB in the league, how exactly are the BILLS receivers "much better" than the Browns ??

    Buffaloes receivers are better than you think, and Haden can't shutdown s Johnson if a healthy revis can't. If a healthy Sherman can't. I don't need to go into each receiver and explain why their better- but they are. And they haven't been covered all season, they just need the ball delivered faster and more accurately. This game has been circled as an easy win since the sched came out. Browns won 2 games, big deal, I think buffalo from top to bottom is a better team this year ( and the last few) and I can't say that about too many teams the bills face.

    the browns don't circle any games as easy wins... also I'd argue that haden is better than revis
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 11:27 AM ET #47

     D-GENS FUTURE' $ ALERT
    $  $ 
    Round this time of year with teams starting to gel , pretenders can be weeded out from contenders , offering lucrative future's opportune to 3rd eye cappers.
    No Money , No Honey,
    No Guts ,no Glory.
    Great Value prices are quick to go, so act now.
    No, I'm no Tout Bookie Monster . ..
     Who Dat ?
    Convinced that Andy Dalton lacks  composure to  bring Bungels to promise land + seeing Browns Bungel beating as no fluke...
    . BROWNS @ 6 - 1 To Win Division is down for  K $
    . Little value in Broncs Conference winning Price.
    . LOVIN'  CHEFS  Value @ + 1400 to win Conference.
    Team is loaded with All Pros, D is for real, Seasoned X Frisco , mistake free QB makes it 
     $o much better.
    . CHEFS Down for 5 $
    Whatabout Jags @ 100, 000 - 1
    Now to Big Outdoor,cold crappy FEB 4 th weather @ Meadowlands Swamp Bowl
    Not because Brownies resemble Color of Crap or of  Mystery Moose , 
    but because acclimated Crap cold weather team with Solid D n' wildcard QB @ 15 000 - 1 makes it certainly worth a minimum investment of  20 +  Pesos to win it all.
    Better odds spending 20 on Browns than Lotto tickets imo.
    And WHATABOUT Them JETS equally @ 15,000 - 1 to win it all.
    Love to see Jets down to Phil Simms JR  takin' it @ home.
    Gots some D, no run game though...
    WTF 5 Cents down...
    Lovin'  CHEFS @ 2500 - 1 
     = 5 $ Play
    To Square or not to Square ...
    What do you think Vue ?
    lol
    BRONCS @ + 250 price will keep going down, down down...
    But I aint$ no Square bettor.
    BOL 2 Moose n' ALL
    Reply
     D-GENS FUTURE' $ ALERT
    $  $ 
    Round this time of year with teams starting to gel , pretenders can be weeded out from contenders , offering lucrative future's opportune to 3rd eye cappers.
    No Money , No Honey,
    No Guts ,no Glory.
    Great Value prices are quick to go, so act now.
    No, I'm no Tout Bookie Monster . ..
     Who Dat ?
    Convinced that Andy Dalton lacks  composure to  bring Bungels to promise land + seeing Browns Bungel beating as no fluke...
    . BROWNS @ 6 - 1 To Win Division is down for  K $
    . Little value in Broncs Conference winning Price.
    . LOVIN'  CHEFS  Value @ + 1400 to win Conference.
    Team is loaded with All Pros, D is for real, Seasoned X Frisco , mistake free QB makes it 
     $o much better.
    . CHEFS Down for 5 $
    Whatabout Jags @ 100, 000 - 1
    Now to Big Outdoor,cold crappy FEB 4 th weather @ Meadowlands Swamp Bowl
    Not because Brownies resemble Color of Crap or of  Mystery Moose , 
    but because acclimated Crap cold weather team with Solid D n' wildcard QB @ 15 000 - 1 makes it certainly worth a minimum investment of  20 +  Pesos to win it all.
    Better odds spending 20 on Browns than Lotto tickets imo.
    And WHATABOUT Them JETS equally @ 15,000 - 1 to win it all.
    Love to see Jets down to Phil Simms JR  takin' it @ home.
    Gots some D, no run game though...
    WTF 5 Cents down...
    Lovin'  CHEFS @ 2500 - 1 
     = 5 $ Play
    To Square or not to Square ...
    What do you think Vue ?
    lol
    BRONCS @ + 250 price will keep going down, down down...
    But I aint$ no Square bettor.
    BOL 2 Moose n' ALL
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 12:20 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by sjon412:

    LOOK at what YOU are saying. both qbs will play SAFE. Playing "safe" leads to check downs and punts. I have so much left to argue on why this goes under but too little time. Your analysis alone contradicts your prediction. and then you have the nerve to call someone else an idiot? You got any money?? GIVE IT TO ME

     


    Love It. What he don't know is that there is a thunderstorm in Cleveland and what do you do when there is rain?? You run the ball. But hey, what do I know, I am not a pro. LMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by sjon412:

    LOOK at what YOU are saying. both qbs will play SAFE. Playing "safe" leads to check downs and punts. I have so much left to argue on why this goes under but too little time. Your analysis alone contradicts your prediction. and then you have the nerve to call someone else an idiot? You got any money?? GIVE IT TO ME

     


    Love It. What he don't know is that there is a thunderstorm in Cleveland and what do you do when there is rain?? You run the ball. But hey, what do I know, I am not a pro. LMAO
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 12:26 PM ET #49

    This is pretty simple!  Both teams are about the same on the stats but Browns have better defense. Brown won @Vikings and Bengals which will give them momentum.  Will not use past records on this because QBs are changed for both team.  Why would Browns bring back Weeden when Hoyer is winning!  On top of that, Thursday game and home field!

    Brown -3 (-125) for medium
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    This is pretty simple!  Both teams are about the same on the stats but Browns have better defense. Brown won @Vikings and Bengals which will give them momentum.  Will not use past records on this because QBs are changed for both team.  Why would Browns bring back Weeden when Hoyer is winning!  On top of that, Thursday game and home field!

    Brown -3 (-125) for medium
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 12:36 PM ET #50

    Buffalo and over.
    Reply
    Buffalo and over.
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