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    mr_bollox
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2016 - 10:41 PM ET #1

    didn't know she had a speech like that in her, considering trump only had her smile through the primaries.

    She's easier on the eye than Bill as well.



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    didn't know she had a speech like that in her, considering trump only had her smile through the primaries.

    She's easier on the eye than Bill as well.



     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2016 - 10:47 PM ET #2

    She's been working with speech experts for 6 weeks, so hopefully she would be more capable than some of the people they threw up there
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    She's been working with speech experts for 6 weeks, so hopefully she would be more capable than some of the people they threw up there
     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2016 - 1:11 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by mr_bollox:

    didn't know she had a speech like that in her, considering trump only had her smile through the primaries.





    Did you also like the speech when Michelle Obama gave it in 2008? It's 1AM on the east coast and the Trump campaign is scrambling to figure out what happened and put out an official statement. Melania never should have told Matt Lauer that she wrote it. Not a good way to end day one.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_bollox:

    didn't know she had a speech like that in her, considering trump only had her smile through the primaries.





    Did you also like the speech when Michelle Obama gave it in 2008? It's 1AM on the east coast and the Trump campaign is scrambling to figure out what happened and put out an official statement. Melania never should have told Matt Lauer that she wrote it. Not a good way to end day one.



     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2016 - 1:45 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:


    Did you also like the speech when Michelle Obama gave it in 2008? It's 1AM on the east coast and the Trump campaign is scrambling to figure out what happened and put out an official statement. Melania never should have told Matt Lauer that she wrote it. Not a good way to end day one.




    Meh, Hillary Lies every other time she opens her mouth and it doesn't seem to bother her cool aid drinkers.

    You may have a good point though. Conservatives are typically more stringent towards their candidates....would never have kept electing a guy like Ted Kennedy after his shenanigans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:


    Did you also like the speech when Michelle Obama gave it in 2008? It's 1AM on the east coast and the Trump campaign is scrambling to figure out what happened and put out an official statement. Melania never should have told Matt Lauer that she wrote it. Not a good way to end day one.




    Meh, Hillary Lies every other time she opens her mouth and it doesn't seem to bother her cool aid drinkers.

    You may have a good point though. Conservatives are typically more stringent towards their candidates....would never have kept electing a guy like Ted Kennedy after his shenanigans.
     
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    That's plagiarism plain and simple. 
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    That's plagiarism plain and simple. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2016 - 10:44 AM ET #6

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KtzdP7mR-4

       
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KtzdP7mR-4

       
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    Meh, Hillary Lies every other time she opens her mouth and it doesn't seem to bother her cool aid drinkers.

    You may have a good point though. Conservatives are typically more stringent towards their candidates....would never have kept electing a guy like Ted Kennedy after his shenanigans.


    You're backing a candidate that has openly cheated on an ex-wife. An act you have gone on record as saying should be prosecuted....and now you're backing him for President. Yeah, you're really strict in your criteria for voting for a candidate. 

    Let's be honest, you don't really care what Trump stands for. Just as long as there is an "R" next to his name. Stop with the "conservatives are more stringent" b.s. All that matters is that there is an "R" next to his/her name. Nothing else matters to you. Trump could come out tomorrow and bang an intern on stage, while claiming to support abortions, and wanting to outlaw all weapons and you would still be on board. 

    Newt Gringrich was a finalist for VP and I never once heard you condemn this in any way. But you still love to bring up Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky, the cigar, and their age difference like you have some sort of personal bond to it. 

    You know you are allowed to vote for someone that doesn't have a "D" or "R" next to their name? It might actually be more in line with what you believe in and what's better for society. 

    And, btw, it's "Kool Aid". You must have been a Tang drinker growing up? I'm guessing you also ate paint chips as well. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    Meh, Hillary Lies every other time she opens her mouth and it doesn't seem to bother her cool aid drinkers.

    You may have a good point though. Conservatives are typically more stringent towards their candidates....would never have kept electing a guy like Ted Kennedy after his shenanigans.


    You're backing a candidate that has openly cheated on an ex-wife. An act you have gone on record as saying should be prosecuted....and now you're backing him for President. Yeah, you're really strict in your criteria for voting for a candidate. 

    Let's be honest, you don't really care what Trump stands for. Just as long as there is an "R" next to his name. Stop with the "conservatives are more stringent" b.s. All that matters is that there is an "R" next to his/her name. Nothing else matters to you. Trump could come out tomorrow and bang an intern on stage, while claiming to support abortions, and wanting to outlaw all weapons and you would still be on board. 

    Newt Gringrich was a finalist for VP and I never once heard you condemn this in any way. But you still love to bring up Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky, the cigar, and their age difference like you have some sort of personal bond to it. 

    You know you are allowed to vote for someone that doesn't have a "D" or "R" next to their name? It might actually be more in line with what you believe in and what's better for society. 

    And, btw, it's "Kool Aid". You must have been a Tang drinker growing up? I'm guessing you also ate paint chips as well. 


     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2016 - 11:45 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:


    Did you also like the speech when Michelle Obama gave it in 2008? It's 1AM on the east coast and the Trump campaign is scrambling to figure out what happened and put out an official statement. Melania never should have told Matt Lauer that she wrote it. Not a good way to end day one.




    my main point was on her delivery of the speech considering english isn't her first language and no bigger stage that the RNC opening night. She is a fool to say she wrote any part of that though, still I expect she will give Trump a boost in the same way when Palin was announced on McCain's ticket, Palin in bikini was the top google search for weeks, the american electorate is incredibly shallow and won't give 2 hoots about who wrote the speech or not next week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:


    Did you also like the speech when Michelle Obama gave it in 2008? It's 1AM on the east coast and the Trump campaign is scrambling to figure out what happened and put out an official statement. Melania never should have told Matt Lauer that she wrote it. Not a good way to end day one.




    my main point was on her delivery of the speech considering english isn't her first language and no bigger stage that the RNC opening night. She is a fool to say she wrote any part of that though, still I expect she will give Trump a boost in the same way when Palin was announced on McCain's ticket, Palin in bikini was the top google search for weeks, the american electorate is incredibly shallow and won't give 2 hoots about who wrote the speech or not next week.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2016 - 12:00 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:



    You're backing a candidate that has openly cheated on an ex-wife. An act you have gone on record as saying should be prosecuted....and now you're backing him for President. Yeah, you're really strict in your criteria for voting for a candidate. 

    Let's be honest, you don't really care what Trump stands for. Just as long as there is an "R" next to his name. Stop with the "conservatives are more stringent" b.s. All that matters is that there is an "R" next to his/her name. Nothing else matters to you. Trump could come out tomorrow and bang an intern on stage, while claiming to support abortions, and wanting to outlaw all weapons and you would still be on board. 

    Newt Gringrich was a finalist for VP and I never once heard you condemn this in any way. But you still love to bring up Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky, the cigar, and their age difference like you have some sort of personal bond to it. 

    You know you are allowed to vote for someone that doesn't have a "D" or "R" next to their name? It might actually be more in line with what you believe in and what's better for society. 

    And, btw, it's "Kool Aid". You must have been a Tang drinker growing up? I'm guessing you also ate paint chips as well. 



    Trump also raped his first wife.   Don't know why that always gets overlooked
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:



    You're backing a candidate that has openly cheated on an ex-wife. An act you have gone on record as saying should be prosecuted....and now you're backing him for President. Yeah, you're really strict in your criteria for voting for a candidate. 

    Let's be honest, you don't really care what Trump stands for. Just as long as there is an "R" next to his name. Stop with the "conservatives are more stringent" b.s. All that matters is that there is an "R" next to his/her name. Nothing else matters to you. Trump could come out tomorrow and bang an intern on stage, while claiming to support abortions, and wanting to outlaw all weapons and you would still be on board. 

    Newt Gringrich was a finalist for VP and I never once heard you condemn this in any way. But you still love to bring up Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky, the cigar, and their age difference like you have some sort of personal bond to it. 

    You know you are allowed to vote for someone that doesn't have a "D" or "R" next to their name? It might actually be more in line with what you believe in and what's better for society. 

    And, btw, it's "Kool Aid". You must have been a Tang drinker growing up? I'm guessing you also ate paint chips as well. 



    Trump also raped his first wife.   Don't know why that always gets overlooked
     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2016 - 1:34 PM ET #10

    Ivana former Mrs. Trump told CNN:

    "I have recently read some comments attributed to me from nearly 30 years ago at a time of very high tension during my divorce from Donald. The story is totally without merit. Donald and I are the best of friends and together have raised three children that we love and are very proud of. I have nothing but fondness for Donald and wish him the best of luck on his campaign."

    "Incidentally, I think he would make an incredible President."

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    Ivana former Mrs. Trump told CNN:

    "I have recently read some comments attributed to me from nearly 30 years ago at a time of very high tension during my divorce from Donald. The story is totally without merit. Donald and I are the best of friends and together have raised three children that we love and are very proud of. I have nothing but fondness for Donald and wish him the best of luck on his campaign."

    "Incidentally, I think he would make an incredible President."

     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2016 - 2:29 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    That's plagiarism plain and simple. 


    Looks like Michelle did a little word stealing herself. Since 1801 the motto of the London Stock Exchange expressed in Latin was
    "dictum meum pactum".  Translated to English "My word is my bond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    That's plagiarism plain and simple. 


    Looks like Michelle did a little word stealing herself. Since 1801 the motto of the London Stock Exchange expressed in Latin was
    "dictum meum pactum".  Translated to English "My word is my bond.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:



    You're backing a candidate that has openly cheated on an ex-wife. An act you have gone on record as saying should be prosecuted....and now you're backing him for President. Yeah, you're really strict in your criteria for voting for a candidate. 

    Let's be honest, you don't really care what Trump stands for. Just as long as there is an "R" next to his name. Stop with the "conservatives are more stringent" b.s. All that matters is that there is an "R" next to his/her name. Nothing else matters to you. Trump could come out tomorrow and bang an intern on stage, while claiming to support abortions, and wanting to outlaw all weapons and you would still be on board. 

    Newt Gringrich was a finalist for VP and I never once heard you condemn this in any way. But you still love to bring up Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky, the cigar, and their age difference like you have some sort of personal bond to it. 

    You know you are allowed to vote for someone that doesn't have a "D" or "R" next to their name? It might actually be more in line with what you believe in and what's better for society. 

    And, btw, it's "Kool Aid". You must have been a Tang drinker growing up? I'm guessing you also ate paint chips as well. 



    Ktrain, I know that you're very simple minded and often what I write often slips past your reading comprehension, but I can assure you that it is deeper than that. But not much.

    I'm actually softening up on my desire to see conservatives control the White House. A few more years of libs controlling it should be enough to last a generation. The dems are steering us over a cliff. Obama complained about Bush spending, but spent twice as much.

    However, I am very much determined not to see Hillary get in the white house. Bill and her have done way more horrible things than the GOP nominated one.

    I know you've missed me saying before that Trump is by far the lessor of two evils. Why is that pill so hard for you to swallow?

    Marbe you need to do some personal homework of your own about Hillary. It's pretty bad when you have a former liberal tell you he fired you for being corrupt. Jerry Zeifman also spoke out about her in 2008.

    Do you think I want a liberal president picking the next few scotuses?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:



    You're backing a candidate that has openly cheated on an ex-wife. An act you have gone on record as saying should be prosecuted....and now you're backing him for President. Yeah, you're really strict in your criteria for voting for a candidate. 

    Let's be honest, you don't really care what Trump stands for. Just as long as there is an "R" next to his name. Stop with the "conservatives are more stringent" b.s. All that matters is that there is an "R" next to his/her name. Nothing else matters to you. Trump could come out tomorrow and bang an intern on stage, while claiming to support abortions, and wanting to outlaw all weapons and you would still be on board. 

    Newt Gringrich was a finalist for VP and I never once heard you condemn this in any way. But you still love to bring up Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky, the cigar, and their age difference like you have some sort of personal bond to it. 

    You know you are allowed to vote for someone that doesn't have a "D" or "R" next to their name? It might actually be more in line with what you believe in and what's better for society. 

    And, btw, it's "Kool Aid". You must have been a Tang drinker growing up? I'm guessing you also ate paint chips as well. 



    Ktrain, I know that you're very simple minded and often what I write often slips past your reading comprehension, but I can assure you that it is deeper than that. But not much.

    I'm actually softening up on my desire to see conservatives control the White House. A few more years of libs controlling it should be enough to last a generation. The dems are steering us over a cliff. Obama complained about Bush spending, but spent twice as much.

    However, I am very much determined not to see Hillary get in the white house. Bill and her have done way more horrible things than the GOP nominated one.

    I know you've missed me saying before that Trump is by far the lessor of two evils. Why is that pill so hard for you to swallow?

    Marbe you need to do some personal homework of your own about Hillary. It's pretty bad when you have a former liberal tell you he fired you for being corrupt. Jerry Zeifman also spoke out about her in 2008.

    Do you think I want a liberal president picking the next few scotuses?


     
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    https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/19/politics/melania-trump-michelle-obama-speech/index.html

    There are too many exact similarities.  The OP should have said he was impressed by Michelle Obama's speech writers.
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    https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/19/politics/melania-trump-michelle-obama-speech/index.html

    There are too many exact similarities.  The OP should have said he was impressed by Michelle Obama's speech writers.
     
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    Bowlslit,

    Better becareful with the attacks otherwise your life partner Slim is going to mistake you for a Liberal.

    Ever notice that when your hypocrisy is brought up you resort to personal attacks? Well either that or you obsess over Bill Clinton.

    I get it Bowl, lesser of two evils and the Clinton's are the devil and blah, blah, blah. You didn't let little things like lies and killing people prevent you from voting for Bush though. So what's the big deal now? Just admit that you're voting for Trump because there is an "R" next to his name and that's what Slim told you to do.

    You could vote for someone like Gary Johnson and not even worry about the lesser of two evils. But you won't, because you have no heart, no balls, and Slim didn't tell you to vote for Johnson.

    So stop with the lesser of two evils b.s.






    Reply
    Bowlslit,

    Better becareful with the attacks otherwise your life partner Slim is going to mistake you for a Liberal.

    Ever notice that when your hypocrisy is brought up you resort to personal attacks? Well either that or you obsess over Bill Clinton.

    I get it Bowl, lesser of two evils and the Clinton's are the devil and blah, blah, blah. You didn't let little things like lies and killing people prevent you from voting for Bush though. So what's the big deal now? Just admit that you're voting for Trump because there is an "R" next to his name and that's what Slim told you to do.

    You could vote for someone like Gary Johnson and not even worry about the lesser of two evils. But you won't, because you have no heart, no balls, and Slim didn't tell you to vote for Johnson.

    So stop with the lesser of two evils b.s.






     
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    Quote Originally Posted by docpj72:

    Bollox-an opinion from north of the 49th-your politics is definitely fun to watch compared to the snoozefest of Canadian politics-nice to have these conventions smack dab in the dog days of summer prior to NFL/EPL etc!

    aye doc, beats watching another boring pennant race
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    Quote Originally Posted by docpj72:

    Bollox-an opinion from north of the 49th-your politics is definitely fun to watch compared to the snoozefest of Canadian politics-nice to have these conventions smack dab in the dog days of summer prior to NFL/EPL etc!

    aye doc, beats watching another boring pennant race
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Ivana former Mrs. Trump told CNN:

    "I have recently read some comments attributed to me from nearly 30 years ago at a time of very high tension during my divorce from Donald. The story is totally without merit. Donald and I are the best of friends and together have raised three children that we love and are very proud of. I have nothing but fondness for Donald and wish him the best of luck on his campaign."

    "Incidentally, I think he would make an incredible President."


    And I'm sure she has plenty of reasons over the years to change her tune...    
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Ivana former Mrs. Trump told CNN:

    "I have recently read some comments attributed to me from nearly 30 years ago at a time of very high tension during my divorce from Donald. The story is totally without merit. Donald and I are the best of friends and together have raised three children that we love and are very proud of. I have nothing but fondness for Donald and wish him the best of luck on his campaign."

    "Incidentally, I think he would make an incredible President."


    And I'm sure she has plenty of reasons over the years to change her tune...    
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

    Bowlslit,

    Better becareful with the attacks otherwise your life partner Slim is going to mistake you for a Liberal.

    Ever notice that when your hypocrisy is brought up you resort to personal attacks? Well either that or you obsess over Bill Clinton.

    I get it Bowl, lesser of two evils and the Clinton's are the devil and blah, blah, blah. You didn't let little things like lies and killing people prevent you from voting for Bush though. So what's the big deal now? Just admit that you're voting for Trump because there is an "R" next to his name and that's what Slim told you to do.

    You could vote for someone like Gary Johnson and not even worry about the lesser of two evils. But you won't, because you have no heart, no balls, and Slim didn't tell you to vote for Johnson.

    So stop with the lesser of two evils b.s.







    Only a fool would compare Bush to either of the Clinton's. For one, the secret service said that all the Bush's treated them with respect and more.

    For two, Bush, wanted Saddam removed from power and underestimated the waring factions in Iraq. Many people around the world wanted Saddam punished, including myself.

    Hillary and Bill have put hits out on people so as to keep hiding their corruption.

    I'm not surprised that your tiny little simple mind can't comprehend that concept.

    A vote for your boy Gary Johnson only helps Hillary. Thus it is counter productive.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

    Bowlslit,

    Better becareful with the attacks otherwise your life partner Slim is going to mistake you for a Liberal.

    Ever notice that when your hypocrisy is brought up you resort to personal attacks? Well either that or you obsess over Bill Clinton.

    I get it Bowl, lesser of two evils and the Clinton's are the devil and blah, blah, blah. You didn't let little things like lies and killing people prevent you from voting for Bush though. So what's the big deal now? Just admit that you're voting for Trump because there is an "R" next to his name and that's what Slim told you to do.

    You could vote for someone like Gary Johnson and not even worry about the lesser of two evils. But you won't, because you have no heart, no balls, and Slim didn't tell you to vote for Johnson.

    So stop with the lesser of two evils b.s.







    Only a fool would compare Bush to either of the Clinton's. For one, the secret service said that all the Bush's treated them with respect and more.

    For two, Bush, wanted Saddam removed from power and underestimated the waring factions in Iraq. Many people around the world wanted Saddam punished, including myself.

    Hillary and Bill have put hits out on people so as to keep hiding their corruption.

    I'm not surprised that your tiny little simple mind can't comprehend that concept.

    A vote for your boy Gary Johnson only helps Hillary. Thus it is counter productive.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 12:49 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    Only a fool would compare Bush to either of the Clinton's. For one, the secret service said that all the Bush's treated them with respect and more.

    For two, Bush, wanted Saddam removed from power and underestimated the waring factions in Iraq. Many people around the world wanted Saddam punished, including myself.

    Hillary and Bill have put hits out on people so as to keep hiding their corruption.

    I'm not surprised that your tiny little simple mind can't comprehend that concept.

    A vote for your boy Gary Johnson only helps Hillary. Thus it is counter productive.

    That's awesome that Bush treated the Secret Service better than the Clinton's did. How did Bush treat the Service Members that he sent to Iraq to die for no good reason? How are they doing? 

    Yeah no sh!t Bush wanted Saddam removed. He lied to accomplish this. Yet you don't care about that. The only lie you seem to care about is Bill Clinton, where he lied about getting a blowie. That seems to be the end of the world to you for some reason. Hell you even bring that up more than any of Hillary's lies. 

    What did you want Saddam punished for? Adultery? Who else, maybe aside from the Kurds, wanted him punished? Should the U.S. just be prepared to become the absolute world police then? I don't think it's feasible for us to invade every country/land that has an a$$ hole in charge. And besides that, look how well Iraq is doing since we invaded it. That really worked out well didn't it? 

    Maybe we can just invade North Korea, parts of Africa, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, India, Venezuela, Mexico (they have amazing beaches, might as well), Syria, Russia, or whoever else you want to invade. I mean after all, you don't have kids or friends in the military right? What does it matter to you? You can even get a head start on investing in whichever contractor gets some contracts for servicing the military during these invasions. We all know you don't care if you profit off of murder anyways. Might as well make it rain in Sudan right? 

        

    And I wouldn't be so quick to assume that a vote for Gary Johnson is beneficial for Hillary. 

    https://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/01/libertarian-johnson-will-likely-hurt-clinton-trump/

    From one of your favorite sources too. Your boy Canovsp has even referenced this in another thread. If you disagree with it perhaps you can debate with him about it. I know you won't because you don't have the balls or heart to argue with someone that is actually conservative and not a giant hypocrite like yourself. 


    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    Only a fool would compare Bush to either of the Clinton's. For one, the secret service said that all the Bush's treated them with respect and more.

    For two, Bush, wanted Saddam removed from power and underestimated the waring factions in Iraq. Many people around the world wanted Saddam punished, including myself.

    Hillary and Bill have put hits out on people so as to keep hiding their corruption.

    I'm not surprised that your tiny little simple mind can't comprehend that concept.

    A vote for your boy Gary Johnson only helps Hillary. Thus it is counter productive.

    That's awesome that Bush treated the Secret Service better than the Clinton's did. How did Bush treat the Service Members that he sent to Iraq to die for no good reason? How are they doing? 

    Yeah no sh!t Bush wanted Saddam removed. He lied to accomplish this. Yet you don't care about that. The only lie you seem to care about is Bill Clinton, where he lied about getting a blowie. That seems to be the end of the world to you for some reason. Hell you even bring that up more than any of Hillary's lies. 

    What did you want Saddam punished for? Adultery? Who else, maybe aside from the Kurds, wanted him punished? Should the U.S. just be prepared to become the absolute world police then? I don't think it's feasible for us to invade every country/land that has an a$$ hole in charge. And besides that, look how well Iraq is doing since we invaded it. That really worked out well didn't it? 

    Maybe we can just invade North Korea, parts of Africa, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, India, Venezuela, Mexico (they have amazing beaches, might as well), Syria, Russia, or whoever else you want to invade. I mean after all, you don't have kids or friends in the military right? What does it matter to you? You can even get a head start on investing in whichever contractor gets some contracts for servicing the military during these invasions. We all know you don't care if you profit off of murder anyways. Might as well make it rain in Sudan right? 

        

    And I wouldn't be so quick to assume that a vote for Gary Johnson is beneficial for Hillary. 

    https://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/01/libertarian-johnson-will-likely-hurt-clinton-trump/

    From one of your favorite sources too. Your boy Canovsp has even referenced this in another thread. If you disagree with it perhaps you can debate with him about it. I know you won't because you don't have the balls or heart to argue with someone that is actually conservative and not a giant hypocrite like yourself. 


     
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    Ktrain, So you think Bush is so smart that he can manipulate the CIA to convince everyone, including Hillary that wmds existed? You give him far too much credit.

    We are the world police, we always will be. And if you don't like it, kindly tell me who could/should replace us in that role?

    After 911 many true patriots, in the likes of Chris Kyle, and Pat Tillman enlisted on their own free will to go and fight abroad. Do you think they are stupid?

    As I said before, Bush's big mistake was underestimating the long standing problems between the Sunnis and the Shia.

    There is no evil on Bush's part just questionable judgment imo.

    Many people here thought that Iraqis on both sides were tired of being oppressed by Saddam and his sons.

    I don't expect you to understand. You have a small brain.

    Good intentions combined with bad judgment is never going to come out great.

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    Ktrain, So you think Bush is so smart that he can manipulate the CIA to convince everyone, including Hillary that wmds existed? You give him far too much credit.

    We are the world police, we always will be. And if you don't like it, kindly tell me who could/should replace us in that role?

    After 911 many true patriots, in the likes of Chris Kyle, and Pat Tillman enlisted on their own free will to go and fight abroad. Do you think they are stupid?

    As I said before, Bush's big mistake was underestimating the long standing problems between the Sunnis and the Shia.

    There is no evil on Bush's part just questionable judgment imo.

    Many people here thought that Iraqis on both sides were tired of being oppressed by Saddam and his sons.

    I don't expect you to understand. You have a small brain.

    Good intentions combined with bad judgment is never going to come out great.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 1:24 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    And I'm sure she has plenty of reasons over the years to change her tune...    



    I'm sure you have proof of this ....because I know you wouldn't make an unsubstantiated comment like this without evidence....

    Right ?

    You do have something you can post to confirm your comment ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    And I'm sure she has plenty of reasons over the years to change her tune...    



    I'm sure you have proof of this ....because I know you wouldn't make an unsubstantiated comment like this without evidence....

    Right ?

    You do have something you can post to confirm your comment ?
     
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    9/11 was/is a huge False Flag. Again. See building 7. Trump, if President 'could' go after Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Condi
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    9/11 was/is a huge False Flag. Again. See building 7. Trump, if President 'could' go after Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Condi
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:

    Ktrain, So you think Bush is so smart that he can manipulate the CIA to convince everyone, including Hillary that wmds existed? You give him far too much credit.

    We are the world police, we always will be. And if you don't like it, kindly tell me who could/should replace us in that role?

    After 911 many true patriots, in the likes of Chris Kyle, and Pat Tillman enlisted on their own free will to go and fight abroad. Do you think they are stupid?

    As I said before, Bush's big mistake was underestimating the long standing problems between the Sunnis and the Shia.

    There is no evil on Bush's part just questionable judgment imo.

    Many people here thought that Iraqis on both sides were tired of being oppressed by Saddam and his sons.

    I don't expect you to understand. You have a small brain.

    Good intentions combined with bad judgment is never going to come out great.


    I actually enlisted in the Navy after 9/11. So, obviously, no I don't think they're stupid. I, like many others in the military, trust our leadership to make the right decisions for the best interest of country. Not to invade countries based on lies and misinformation. 

    Obviously Bush isn't the most intelligent guy, but ultimately he makes (made) the decisions. You can't give one President a pass on his decisions, yet blame all the others for theirs. That's hypocrisy, which you're all to familiar with.  

    I'm sure there was no evil intention on Bush's part...just a lot of money to be made by him and the people around him. Halliburton and its subsidiaries seemed to do well in that war. Given your stance on profiting off the deaths of others though, I'm sure you see nothing wrong with that. 

    Honestly, you're a scumbag for even bringing their names (Kyle and Tillman) up as an argument point in that fashion. Bush needlessly invades a country and you're dragging the names of hero's into this debate to try and deflect that? That's awful Bowl. But since you brought it up, maybe you can enlighten the forum on what Tillman thought of Iraq. 




    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:

    Ktrain, So you think Bush is so smart that he can manipulate the CIA to convince everyone, including Hillary that wmds existed? You give him far too much credit.

    We are the world police, we always will be. And if you don't like it, kindly tell me who could/should replace us in that role?

    After 911 many true patriots, in the likes of Chris Kyle, and Pat Tillman enlisted on their own free will to go and fight abroad. Do you think they are stupid?

    As I said before, Bush's big mistake was underestimating the long standing problems between the Sunnis and the Shia.

    There is no evil on Bush's part just questionable judgment imo.

    Many people here thought that Iraqis on both sides were tired of being oppressed by Saddam and his sons.

    I don't expect you to understand. You have a small brain.

    Good intentions combined with bad judgment is never going to come out great.


    I actually enlisted in the Navy after 9/11. So, obviously, no I don't think they're stupid. I, like many others in the military, trust our leadership to make the right decisions for the best interest of country. Not to invade countries based on lies and misinformation. 

    Obviously Bush isn't the most intelligent guy, but ultimately he makes (made) the decisions. You can't give one President a pass on his decisions, yet blame all the others for theirs. That's hypocrisy, which you're all to familiar with.  

    I'm sure there was no evil intention on Bush's part...just a lot of money to be made by him and the people around him. Halliburton and its subsidiaries seemed to do well in that war. Given your stance on profiting off the deaths of others though, I'm sure you see nothing wrong with that. 

    Honestly, you're a scumbag for even bringing their names (Kyle and Tillman) up as an argument point in that fashion. Bush needlessly invades a country and you're dragging the names of hero's into this debate to try and deflect that? That's awful Bowl. But since you brought it up, maybe you can enlighten the forum on what Tillman thought of Iraq. 




     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:




    I'm sure you have proof of this ....because I know you wouldn't make an unsubstantiated comment like this without evidence....

    Right ?

    You do have something you can post to confirm your comment ?

    No link, just a knowledge of how the real world works.   You should try to get out in it sometime.   I'm sure your pal SportsFan could use a friend.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:




    I'm sure you have proof of this ....because I know you wouldn't make an unsubstantiated comment like this without evidence....

    Right ?

    You do have something you can post to confirm your comment ?

    No link, just a knowledge of how the real world works.   You should try to get out in it sometime.   I'm sure your pal SportsFan could use a friend.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:


    I actually enlisted in the Navy after 9/11. So, obviously, no I don't think they're stupid. I, like many others in the military, trust our leadership to make the right decisions for the best interest of country. Not to invade countries based on lies and misinformation. 

    Obviously Bush isn't the most intelligent guy, but ultimately he makes (made) the decisions. You can't give one President a pass on his decisions, yet blame all the others for theirs. That's hypocrisy, which you're all to familiar with.  

    I'm sure there was no evil intention on Bush's part...just a lot of money to be made by him and the people around him. Halliburton and its subsidiaries seemed to do well in that war. Given your stance on profiting off the deaths of others though, I'm sure you see nothing wrong with that. 

    Honestly, you're a scumbag for even bringing their names (Kyle and Tillman) up as an argument point in that fashion. Bush needlessly invades a country and you're dragging the names of hero's into this debate to try and deflect that? That's awful Bowl. But since you brought it up, maybe you can enlighten the forum on what Tillman thought of Iraq. 





    How did I give Bush a pass? I said he made bad judgements. Did you want me to drive to Texas and give him a knuckle sandwich? I wouldn't vote for him or his brother for any office in the future....Hows that?

    What more do you want?

    Oh, by the way. When a deuche bag calls someone a scum bag it holds no value.

    There was a whole lot of other countries that went into Iraq too. Do you really think Bush was smart enough to fool all of them?


    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:


    I actually enlisted in the Navy after 9/11. So, obviously, no I don't think they're stupid. I, like many others in the military, trust our leadership to make the right decisions for the best interest of country. Not to invade countries based on lies and misinformation. 

    Obviously Bush isn't the most intelligent guy, but ultimately he makes (made) the decisions. You can't give one President a pass on his decisions, yet blame all the others for theirs. That's hypocrisy, which you're all to familiar with.  

    I'm sure there was no evil intention on Bush's part...just a lot of money to be made by him and the people around him. Halliburton and its subsidiaries seemed to do well in that war. Given your stance on profiting off the deaths of others though, I'm sure you see nothing wrong with that. 

    Honestly, you're a scumbag for even bringing their names (Kyle and Tillman) up as an argument point in that fashion. Bush needlessly invades a country and you're dragging the names of hero's into this debate to try and deflect that? That's awful Bowl. But since you brought it up, maybe you can enlighten the forum on what Tillman thought of Iraq. 





    How did I give Bush a pass? I said he made bad judgements. Did you want me to drive to Texas and give him a knuckle sandwich? I wouldn't vote for him or his brother for any office in the future....Hows that?

    What more do you want?

    Oh, by the way. When a deuche bag calls someone a scum bag it holds no value.

    There was a whole lot of other countries that went into Iraq too. Do you really think Bush was smart enough to fool all of them?


     
     
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    I am addressing everybody, not just the previous poster.  Please stop posting insults.  You only damage your own reputation and make people reluctant to read, let alone respect, your future postings.

    If someone posts a lie, slam the comment, not the speaker.  Stick to indisputable facts and flawless logic.  That's how you win an argument.
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    I am addressing everybody, not just the previous poster.  Please stop posting insults.  You only damage your own reputation and make people reluctant to read, let alone respect, your future postings.

    If someone posts a lie, slam the comment, not the speaker.  Stick to indisputable facts and flawless logic.  That's how you win an argument.
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