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    Ktrain
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 8:28 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    How did I give Bush a pass? I said he made bad judgements. Did you want me to drive to Texas and give him a knuckle sandwich? I wouldn't vote for him or his brother for any office in the future....Hows that?

    What more do you want?

    Oh, by the way. When a deuche bag calls someone a scum bag it holds no value.

    There was a whole lot of other countries that went into Iraq too. Do you really think Bush was smart enough to fool all of them?



    You constantly rip Bill Clinton for getting a blow job in the Oval Office and lying about it, an act that killed no one, and never criticize Bush for anything. You rip any and every Democratic President yet never find anything wrong with any Republican President. I'm sure this has to do with your inability to think for yourself. Did Slim write this response for you? I know you don't do anything without his permission. I'm sure he makes you sit down when you pee too. 

    Face it, you vote Republican and defend Republicans because that's what you're told to do, not because of an ability to think for yourself. Otherwise, you'd stop backing Trump and start looking at Gary Johnson. No response to the link I posted from Brietbart? Maybe, just maybe you might be wrong on your premise that a vote for Johnson helps HRC. 

    Yeah you really crushed Bush by saying "he made bad judgements". Yet you continually bring up Bill C's affairs like they started a war themselves. 

    Obviously your judgement and morals are beyond logic and reason compared to the rest of society's. It takes a truly ignorant person to think that cheating on their wife is worse then intentionally sending people into war over a lie. How many people have died because of the Bush regime's "bad judgement"? 

    I know your hypocrisy is rampant on here but you do realize that if you excuse Bush for "bad judgement" and exclude him from responsibility for what happens under his Presidency, then you have to do that for other Presidents as well. Then you would have to admit that Obama running up the National Debt is "bad judgement". 

    Whoops!!! He just a made a mistakes is all. Just a couple of bad decisions. No biggie deal, just some "bad judgement". 

    And yes, I do think Bush coerced other countries into going to Iraq. Would any other country have gone if the U.S. hadn't led the way? Was any other country eager enough to get Saddam out of leadership that they were ready to invade w/o the U.S.? 

    Did you bother to read up on Tillman's thoughts on Iraq since you're trying to drag his great name into this debate? Care to respond to any of Tillman's thoughts on Bush and Iraq? 

    I'm sure Slim will give you permission to if you ask him nicely. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    How did I give Bush a pass? I said he made bad judgements. Did you want me to drive to Texas and give him a knuckle sandwich? I wouldn't vote for him or his brother for any office in the future....Hows that?

    What more do you want?

    Oh, by the way. When a deuche bag calls someone a scum bag it holds no value.

    There was a whole lot of other countries that went into Iraq too. Do you really think Bush was smart enough to fool all of them?



    You constantly rip Bill Clinton for getting a blow job in the Oval Office and lying about it, an act that killed no one, and never criticize Bush for anything. You rip any and every Democratic President yet never find anything wrong with any Republican President. I'm sure this has to do with your inability to think for yourself. Did Slim write this response for you? I know you don't do anything without his permission. I'm sure he makes you sit down when you pee too. 

    Face it, you vote Republican and defend Republicans because that's what you're told to do, not because of an ability to think for yourself. Otherwise, you'd stop backing Trump and start looking at Gary Johnson. No response to the link I posted from Brietbart? Maybe, just maybe you might be wrong on your premise that a vote for Johnson helps HRC. 

    Yeah you really crushed Bush by saying "he made bad judgements". Yet you continually bring up Bill C's affairs like they started a war themselves. 

    Obviously your judgement and morals are beyond logic and reason compared to the rest of society's. It takes a truly ignorant person to think that cheating on their wife is worse then intentionally sending people into war over a lie. How many people have died because of the Bush regime's "bad judgement"? 

    I know your hypocrisy is rampant on here but you do realize that if you excuse Bush for "bad judgement" and exclude him from responsibility for what happens under his Presidency, then you have to do that for other Presidents as well. Then you would have to admit that Obama running up the National Debt is "bad judgement". 

    Whoops!!! He just a made a mistakes is all. Just a couple of bad decisions. No biggie deal, just some "bad judgement". 

    And yes, I do think Bush coerced other countries into going to Iraq. Would any other country have gone if the U.S. hadn't led the way? Was any other country eager enough to get Saddam out of leadership that they were ready to invade w/o the U.S.? 

    Did you bother to read up on Tillman's thoughts on Iraq since you're trying to drag his great name into this debate? Care to respond to any of Tillman's thoughts on Bush and Iraq? 

    I'm sure Slim will give you permission to if you ask him nicely. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 8:38 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    How did I give Bush a pass? I said he made bad judgements. Did you want me to drive to Texas and give him a knuckle sandwich? I wouldn't vote for him or his brother for any office in the future....Hows that?

    What more do you want?

    Oh, by the way. When a deuche bag calls someone a scum bag it holds no value.

    There was a whole lot of other countries that went into Iraq too. Do you really think Bush was smart enough to fool all of them?



    Is this really your rationale? Because other countries helped with the war in Iraq it makes it ok. I'd expect more intelligence and logic from a 12 year old. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    How did I give Bush a pass? I said he made bad judgements. Did you want me to drive to Texas and give him a knuckle sandwich? I wouldn't vote for him or his brother for any office in the future....Hows that?

    What more do you want?

    Oh, by the way. When a deuche bag calls someone a scum bag it holds no value.

    There was a whole lot of other countries that went into Iraq too. Do you really think Bush was smart enough to fool all of them?



    Is this really your rationale? Because other countries helped with the war in Iraq it makes it ok. I'd expect more intelligence and logic from a 12 year old. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 1:33 AM ET #28

    Ktrain, to say that Bush sent us into Iraq over a lie is very ignorant at best. At worst it's irresponsible and juvenile.

    I lie is something you know isn't true and you tell it anyway. (See Hillary Clinton's every other sentence)

    CIA was telling everyone that WMD's were there. Clinton saw the same evidence and believed it too. 

    The bad judgement was that the Iraqis on both sides would be so happy that Saddam was gone they'd cherish the opportunity to have a democracy. That didn't happen because obviously the people are too ignorant. Because that didn't happen, it cost more lives trying to keep the peace on all sides.

    To say that Bush knew there were no WMD's and sent troops in anyway is just stupid and perpetuated by small minded dumb arses.

    Even Saddam had been acting like he was hiding something by constantly kicking inspectors out of the country over and over. Many people thought he was up to something and the CIA was to blame not Bush.

    Do you think Bush does the investigations by himself? If so then why the need for the CIA? The CIA says wmd is there then you either act on it or not. Totality of the circumstances leaned towards WMD's being there. Dead Kurdish Men, women and children said they were there.

    Bush is not running for office anymore, I don't need to concern myself with him anymore. If he were to run for office he wouldn't get very far these days...even his brother cannot get anywhere. What more does your little brain want?

    Last time I checked WJC has a decent chance to get his cigar shoving butt into the White House and his wife is a crook so their history matters. I don't know why you think it doesn't matter.

    Last time I checked it was WJC that sent troops into Somalia and got many of our troops killed. Was there even a threat of WMD's there? What was that for?

    So you think Bush is smart enough to get 40 some countries to just blindly follow our troops into anywhere he says we should without them checking it out first?

    You act like stupidity is a virtue. I promise you those countries are not that stupid. You should be ashamed of yourself for calling all those countries stupid.
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    Ktrain, to say that Bush sent us into Iraq over a lie is very ignorant at best. At worst it's irresponsible and juvenile.

    I lie is something you know isn't true and you tell it anyway. (See Hillary Clinton's every other sentence)

    CIA was telling everyone that WMD's were there. Clinton saw the same evidence and believed it too. 

    The bad judgement was that the Iraqis on both sides would be so happy that Saddam was gone they'd cherish the opportunity to have a democracy. That didn't happen because obviously the people are too ignorant. Because that didn't happen, it cost more lives trying to keep the peace on all sides.

    To say that Bush knew there were no WMD's and sent troops in anyway is just stupid and perpetuated by small minded dumb arses.

    Even Saddam had been acting like he was hiding something by constantly kicking inspectors out of the country over and over. Many people thought he was up to something and the CIA was to blame not Bush.

    Do you think Bush does the investigations by himself? If so then why the need for the CIA? The CIA says wmd is there then you either act on it or not. Totality of the circumstances leaned towards WMD's being there. Dead Kurdish Men, women and children said they were there.

    Bush is not running for office anymore, I don't need to concern myself with him anymore. If he were to run for office he wouldn't get very far these days...even his brother cannot get anywhere. What more does your little brain want?

    Last time I checked WJC has a decent chance to get his cigar shoving butt into the White House and his wife is a crook so their history matters. I don't know why you think it doesn't matter.

    Last time I checked it was WJC that sent troops into Somalia and got many of our troops killed. Was there even a threat of WMD's there? What was that for?

    So you think Bush is smart enough to get 40 some countries to just blindly follow our troops into anywhere he says we should without them checking it out first?

    You act like stupidity is a virtue. I promise you those countries are not that stupid. You should be ashamed of yourself for calling all those countries stupid.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 1:45 AM ET #29

    I hope you know how to read mr KTRAIN

    Time for that tiny brain of yours to go to work.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

    Despite being unable to get a new resolution authorizing force and citing section 3 of the Joint Resolution passed by the U.S. Congress,[9] President George W. Bush asserted peaceful measures could not disarm Iraq of the weapons he alleged it to have and launched a second Gulf War. Later U.S.-led inspections found out that Iraq had earlier ceased active WMD production and stockpiling. The report also found that Iraq had worked covertly to maintain the intellectual and physical capacity to produce WMDs and intended to restart production once sanctions were lifted.[10]

    In 2015 it was learned that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction had not been fully accounted for by UN inspections.[11]Ten years after, Operation Avarice was declassified and it was learned that there were stockpiles of warheads and rockets containing degraded chemical agents similar to those used in the Iran-Iraq War. From 2005 through 2006 military intelligence discovered that the weapons—many in poor condition, some empty or containing nonlethal liquid, but others containing sarin with unexpectedly high purity—were in the possession of one Iraqi individual who remained anonymous. Operation Avarice, headed by army intelligence and the CIA, involved the discreet purchase of the weapons from the unidentified individual to keep them off the black market.

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    I hope you know how to read mr KTRAIN

    Time for that tiny brain of yours to go to work.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

    Despite being unable to get a new resolution authorizing force and citing section 3 of the Joint Resolution passed by the U.S. Congress,[9] President George W. Bush asserted peaceful measures could not disarm Iraq of the weapons he alleged it to have and launched a second Gulf War. Later U.S.-led inspections found out that Iraq had earlier ceased active WMD production and stockpiling. The report also found that Iraq had worked covertly to maintain the intellectual and physical capacity to produce WMDs and intended to restart production once sanctions were lifted.[10]

    In 2015 it was learned that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction had not been fully accounted for by UN inspections.[11]Ten years after, Operation Avarice was declassified and it was learned that there were stockpiles of warheads and rockets containing degraded chemical agents similar to those used in the Iran-Iraq War. From 2005 through 2006 military intelligence discovered that the weapons—many in poor condition, some empty or containing nonlethal liquid, but others containing sarin with unexpectedly high purity—were in the possession of one Iraqi individual who remained anonymous. Operation Avarice, headed by army intelligence and the CIA, involved the discreet purchase of the weapons from the unidentified individual to keep them off the black market.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 2:07 AM ET #30

    Same link as above.

    "According to the CIA's report, all U.S. intelligence experts agree t
    hat Iraq is seeking nuclear weapons. There is little question that Saddam Hussein wants to develop nuclear weapons." Senator John Kerry (D-Mass.) - Congressional Record, October 9, 2002[82]
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    Same link as above.

    "According to the CIA's report, all U.S. intelligence experts agree t
    hat Iraq is seeking nuclear weapons. There is little question that Saddam Hussein wants to develop nuclear weapons." Senator John Kerry (D-Mass.) - Congressional Record, October 9, 2002[82]
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 6:19 AM ET #31

    nothing better than reading a politics forum on a sports betting website... the National Enquirer has nothing on you guys...appreciate the read, please, by all means, continue.......the entertainment is mounting

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    nothing better than reading a politics forum on a sports betting website... the National Enquirer has nothing on you guys...appreciate the read, please, by all means, continue.......the entertainment is mounting

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 9:44 AM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    Looks like Michelle did a little word stealing herself. Since 1801 the motto of the London Stock Exchange expressed in Latin was
    "dictum meum pactum".  Translated to English "My word is my bond.

    lollol  reaching you hate her that much? To the point you are saying she stole a word. Seriously ??????????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    Looks like Michelle did a little word stealing herself. Since 1801 the motto of the London Stock Exchange expressed in Latin was
    "dictum meum pactum".  Translated to English "My word is my bond.

    lollol  reaching you hate her that much? To the point you are saying she stole a word. Seriously ??????????????
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 9:57 AM ET #33

    The bottom line if trump gets elected your kids and grand kids will suffer. Wealthy or poor doesn't matter he's going to back big business.  Oil coal.....  All the companies that are poising us killing us giving your kids cancer and other health issues. he will back them because they pay him to back him. Must racist will vote for him just because he's white some peopl just because the side he represents. Bottom line it shows the state America is in and how we are in a self destruction period. When I was a kid I remembers seeing an episode of the Simpson's when trump became president it was halarious watching destroy the country I'm 37 now and i have children its not funny in real life.  Peace
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    The bottom line if trump gets elected your kids and grand kids will suffer. Wealthy or poor doesn't matter he's going to back big business.  Oil coal.....  All the companies that are poising us killing us giving your kids cancer and other health issues. he will back them because they pay him to back him. Must racist will vote for him just because he's white some peopl just because the side he represents. Bottom line it shows the state America is in and how we are in a self destruction period. When I was a kid I remembers seeing an episode of the Simpson's when trump became president it was halarious watching destroy the country I'm 37 now and i have children its not funny in real life.  Peace
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 10:42 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:




    Did you bother to read up on Tillman's thoughts on Iraq since you're trying to drag his great name into this debate? Care to respond to any of Tillman's thoughts on Bush and Iraq? 

    I'm sure Slim will give you permission to if you ask him nicely. 






    How long do we have to wait for this?   I'm very interested.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:




    Did you bother to read up on Tillman's thoughts on Iraq since you're trying to drag his great name into this debate? Care to respond to any of Tillman's thoughts on Bush and Iraq? 

    I'm sure Slim will give you permission to if you ask him nicely. 






    How long do we have to wait for this?   I'm very interested.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natkihinc:

    The bottom line if trump gets elected your kids and grand kids will suffer. Wealthy or poor doesn't matter he's going to back big business.  Oil coal.....  All the companies that are poising us killing us giving your kids cancer and other health issues. he will back them because they pay him to back him. Must racist will vote for him just because he's white some peopl just because the side he represents. Bottom line it shows the state America is in and how we are in a self destruction period. When I was a kid I remembers seeing an episode of the Simpson's when trump became president it was halarious watching destroy the country I'm 37 now and i have children its not funny in real life.  Peace

    Um, you have it backwards. Trump doesn't need money. He's the richest person to ever run for POTUS.

    Hillary is the one who Wall street threatened to cut her money off if she chose Elizabeth Warren as her veep.

    But Trump doesn't need money from anyone...so what you say doesn't make sense.

    What would make sense is that he will continue to support the oil and coal industry as a means to keep people working and paying taxes and boosting the economy. That is the argument you should have made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natkihinc:

    The bottom line if trump gets elected your kids and grand kids will suffer. Wealthy or poor doesn't matter he's going to back big business.  Oil coal.....  All the companies that are poising us killing us giving your kids cancer and other health issues. he will back them because they pay him to back him. Must racist will vote for him just because he's white some peopl just because the side he represents. Bottom line it shows the state America is in and how we are in a self destruction period. When I was a kid I remembers seeing an episode of the Simpson's when trump became president it was halarious watching destroy the country I'm 37 now and i have children its not funny in real life.  Peace

    Um, you have it backwards. Trump doesn't need money. He's the richest person to ever run for POTUS.

    Hillary is the one who Wall street threatened to cut her money off if she chose Elizabeth Warren as her veep.

    But Trump doesn't need money from anyone...so what you say doesn't make sense.

    What would make sense is that he will continue to support the oil and coal industry as a means to keep people working and paying taxes and boosting the economy. That is the argument you should have made.
     
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    Bowl, 

    Did you even read the article you linked? Did you read the entire thing? I could quote passages refuting the 10% or so you selectively chose to use, but that would be really time and space consuming. You could actually just read how Bush regime reached far and wide for reasons to invade Iraq and weakly linked together reasons to do so. 

    They did so in the manner of: Bowlslit likes football, Bowlslit has watched a Penn State football game from the last 30 years. Bowlslit has been around little boys. Jerry Sandusky raped little boys. Jerry Sandusky coached at Penn State during the last 30 years. Therefore Bowlslit likes little boys. 

    Now that rationale is completely disingenuous but that's the equivalent of how the Bush regime got us into Iraq. 

    Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 yet the Bush regime reached far and wide to make it seem like they did. Why didn't we go after Saudi Arabia when they had way more of a connection to 9/11? Do you think there might have been a financial motive there? Many reports state Saddam's WMD capability to be poor at best. Reports form the very article you linked. I'm paraphrasing but one of them said something to the extent of "cleaning products found under my sink" or something to that extent. But that was good enough for you I guess. We would have to invade several other nations if having WMD's was the sole reason for an invasion. 

    Like I said, if you want to blame Bush's advisers then fine, go ahead. But then you have to give a pass to other President's as well since they all take advice from advisers. 

    Well I guess you don't since you're a giant hypocrite who thinks getting a blowie is worse than killing people. 

    Speaking of that, I want to congratulate you on going a whole 24 hours without bringing it up. That must be a major accomplishment for you. Did something happen in the Bowlslurp household to make you bring it up again? Did the wifey go out "with the girls" last night? 

    I could link you youtube vids and other wikipedia articles but you clearly don't even read the entirety of the ones you link. I have other things to do in life so I'll let you be. Give my best to your wife. 


    Oh and don't ever drag the names of hero's like Chris Kyle, and Pat Tillman into an argument like this, where their names aren't relevant to the matter, again. That's extremely disrespectful. 
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    Bowl, 

    Did you even read the article you linked? Did you read the entire thing? I could quote passages refuting the 10% or so you selectively chose to use, but that would be really time and space consuming. You could actually just read how Bush regime reached far and wide for reasons to invade Iraq and weakly linked together reasons to do so. 

    They did so in the manner of: Bowlslit likes football, Bowlslit has watched a Penn State football game from the last 30 years. Bowlslit has been around little boys. Jerry Sandusky raped little boys. Jerry Sandusky coached at Penn State during the last 30 years. Therefore Bowlslit likes little boys. 

    Now that rationale is completely disingenuous but that's the equivalent of how the Bush regime got us into Iraq. 

    Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 yet the Bush regime reached far and wide to make it seem like they did. Why didn't we go after Saudi Arabia when they had way more of a connection to 9/11? Do you think there might have been a financial motive there? Many reports state Saddam's WMD capability to be poor at best. Reports form the very article you linked. I'm paraphrasing but one of them said something to the extent of "cleaning products found under my sink" or something to that extent. But that was good enough for you I guess. We would have to invade several other nations if having WMD's was the sole reason for an invasion. 

    Like I said, if you want to blame Bush's advisers then fine, go ahead. But then you have to give a pass to other President's as well since they all take advice from advisers. 

    Well I guess you don't since you're a giant hypocrite who thinks getting a blowie is worse than killing people. 

    Speaking of that, I want to congratulate you on going a whole 24 hours without bringing it up. That must be a major accomplishment for you. Did something happen in the Bowlslurp household to make you bring it up again? Did the wifey go out "with the girls" last night? 

    I could link you youtube vids and other wikipedia articles but you clearly don't even read the entirety of the ones you link. I have other things to do in life so I'll let you be. Give my best to your wife. 


    Oh and don't ever drag the names of hero's like Chris Kyle, and Pat Tillman into an argument like this, where their names aren't relevant to the matter, again. That's extremely disrespectful. 
     
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    I should apologize. I shouldn't say such things about Mrs. Bowlslit. I just think it's extraordinarily disrespectful that you would use the names of hero's like Kyle and Tillman in such a poor manner. 

    I do truly apologize for my insults in my previous post. 

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    I should apologize. I shouldn't say such things about Mrs. Bowlslit. I just think it's extraordinarily disrespectful that you would use the names of hero's like Kyle and Tillman in such a poor manner. 

    I do truly apologize for my insults in my previous post. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:

    Same link as above.

    "According to the CIA's report, all U.S. intelligence experts agree t
    hat Iraq is seeking nuclear weapons. There is little question that Saddam Hussein wants to develop nuclear weapons." Senator John Kerry (D-Mass.) - Congressional Record, October 9, 2002[82]

    Iran seeks nuclear weapons. Iran seeks to usurp and control Iraqi government. Most insiders believe they're on their way to doing just that, all they need is time. Iran is a muslim theocracratic dictatorship.
    PAKISTAN already has nuclear weapons. Lets ll pause to think about this fact for a moment. Pakistan is the same country where more than a 1000 women are murdered by their own family members for insulting Islam in one form or another, without trial. Many or most receive light sentencing or none at all.  PAKISTAN was a safe haven for Osama Bin Laden. PAKISTAN has very little stability, control over insurgents, militants and extremists. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:

    Same link as above.

    "According to the CIA's report, all U.S. intelligence experts agree t
    hat Iraq is seeking nuclear weapons. There is little question that Saddam Hussein wants to develop nuclear weapons." Senator John Kerry (D-Mass.) - Congressional Record, October 9, 2002[82]

    Iran seeks nuclear weapons. Iran seeks to usurp and control Iraqi government. Most insiders believe they're on their way to doing just that, all they need is time. Iran is a muslim theocracratic dictatorship.
    PAKISTAN already has nuclear weapons. Lets ll pause to think about this fact for a moment. Pakistan is the same country where more than a 1000 women are murdered by their own family members for insulting Islam in one form or another, without trial. Many or most receive light sentencing or none at all.  PAKISTAN was a safe haven for Osama Bin Laden. PAKISTAN has very little stability, control over insurgents, militants and extremists. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 2:13 PM ET #39

    This is the political betting section of covers.

    What are the odds of Pakistan and Iran joining forces with their European emigrants in european Muslim neighborhoods, to overthrow the "decadent West" with nuclear weapons initially, and later plan to institute the worship of Allah and his prophet Muhammed? Insurrection is met by death. And if we have a liberal President we may succumb because there will be pro Muslim influences within Washington (such as Obama who is a Muslim, and Clinton, whose right hand secretary Heba is a Pakistani born Muslim). This will incite the Middle East powers to overthrow the western powers--Pentagon is usurped with hands tied to Islam--millions of immigrants in Germany, France and England;n nuclear weapons and means to deliver them.

    Just fear, eh? You simply can't imagine being UNDER the power of a muslim despot? You already ARE under one right now.

    https://decider.com/2016/07/21/watch-this-woman-give-birth-in-a-stream/?_ga=1.111548807.26367471.1469119098
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    This is the political betting section of covers.

    What are the odds of Pakistan and Iran joining forces with their European emigrants in european Muslim neighborhoods, to overthrow the "decadent West" with nuclear weapons initially, and later plan to institute the worship of Allah and his prophet Muhammed? Insurrection is met by death. And if we have a liberal President we may succumb because there will be pro Muslim influences within Washington (such as Obama who is a Muslim, and Clinton, whose right hand secretary Heba is a Pakistani born Muslim). This will incite the Middle East powers to overthrow the western powers--Pentagon is usurped with hands tied to Islam--millions of immigrants in Germany, France and England;n nuclear weapons and means to deliver them.

    Just fear, eh? You simply can't imagine being UNDER the power of a muslim despot? You already ARE under one right now.

    https://decider.com/2016/07/21/watch-this-woman-give-birth-in-a-stream/?_ga=1.111548807.26367471.1469119098
     
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    Whoops!

    wrong video! That was a crazy one about giving birth viewed the most times ever. Weird.


    Here Obama says he is a Muslim, but Stefanopolous, who worked with BOTH Clintons, corrects him quickly.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVn59TC2QqM
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    Whoops!

    wrong video! That was a crazy one about giving birth viewed the most times ever. Weird.


    Here Obama says he is a Muslim, but Stefanopolous, who worked with BOTH Clintons, corrects him quickly.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVn59TC2QqM
     
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    Ktrain the crux of the argument is this. 

    You said Bush lied to get us into Iraq. I provided plenty of material the more than says that is simply not correct, no matter how much you think I chery picked. I will say that he had a quick trigger for Saddam, but he didn't lie to get us over there as you had said. When you factor in the cooperation he expected to get from all Iraqis and didn't get that caused the quagmire, he has to own it, but I refuse to believe he had evil or sinister ideals.

    Thats why I said I would never vote for him or any member of his family again....so tell me....how the fook did I give him a pass?

    I think that the president of the United States should refrain from shoving a cigar ( or two ) up a young girls cooch. I definitely think that a person who has done that has disgraced the White House irreversiblly. Shame on you for chastising me for that belief. Nothing Bush has done can compare to that, I don't care what you say. Bill Clinton took the honor of the Presidency for granted in an unprecedented way and I can't wait to hear again how you or anyone else can sugar coat it.
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    Ktrain the crux of the argument is this. 

    You said Bush lied to get us into Iraq. I provided plenty of material the more than says that is simply not correct, no matter how much you think I chery picked. I will say that he had a quick trigger for Saddam, but he didn't lie to get us over there as you had said. When you factor in the cooperation he expected to get from all Iraqis and didn't get that caused the quagmire, he has to own it, but I refuse to believe he had evil or sinister ideals.

    Thats why I said I would never vote for him or any member of his family again....so tell me....how the fook did I give him a pass?

    I think that the president of the United States should refrain from shoving a cigar ( or two ) up a young girls cooch. I definitely think that a person who has done that has disgraced the White House irreversiblly. Shame on you for chastising me for that belief. Nothing Bush has done can compare to that, I don't care what you say. Bill Clinton took the honor of the Presidency for granted in an unprecedented way and I can't wait to hear again how you or anyone else can sugar coat it.
     
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    I hear when Ol'Willy got done he smoked them........nasty ,,just nasty..
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    I hear when Ol'Willy got done he smoked them........nasty ,,just nasty..
     
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    Iraq wasn't about 9/11. We didn't go into Iraq until 2003, we almost immediately went into Afghanistan. Iraq invasion was a UN resolution to punish Saddam for not cooperating with WMD inspections. 

    How dare you misconstrue my sentiments for Pat Tillman and Chris Kyle. I said they were both Patriots for enlisting on their own after 9/11...which is absolutely true. Sure, Tillman didn't agree with the war in Iraq but there were many service men who did...for phucks sake, Kyle went back to Iraq 4 times so you need to just put a cork in it.

    Maybe Tillman didn't agree with Iraq but he spent time there and Afghanistan. He's entitled to his opinions just like you and I are....but I'd be shocked if you even went to see the movie American Sniper.
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    Iraq wasn't about 9/11. We didn't go into Iraq until 2003, we almost immediately went into Afghanistan. Iraq invasion was a UN resolution to punish Saddam for not cooperating with WMD inspections. 

    How dare you misconstrue my sentiments for Pat Tillman and Chris Kyle. I said they were both Patriots for enlisting on their own after 9/11...which is absolutely true. Sure, Tillman didn't agree with the war in Iraq but there were many service men who did...for phucks sake, Kyle went back to Iraq 4 times so you need to just put a cork in it.

    Maybe Tillman didn't agree with Iraq but he spent time there and Afghanistan. He's entitled to his opinions just like you and I are....but I'd be shocked if you even went to see the movie American Sniper.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:

    Iraq wasn't about 9/11. We didn't go into Iraq until 2003, we almost immediately went into Afghanistan. Iraq invasion was a UN resolution to punish Saddam for not cooperating with WMD inspections. 

    How dare you misconstrue my sentiments for Pat Tillman and Chris Kyle. I said they were both Patriots for enlisting on their own after 9/11...which is absolutely true. Sure, Tillman didn't agree with the war in Iraq but there were many service men who did...for phucks sake, Kyle went back to Iraq 4 times so you need to just put a cork in it.

    Maybe Tillman didn't agree with Iraq but he spent time there and Afghanistan. He's entitled to his opinions just like you and I are....but I'd be shocked if you even went to see the movie American Sniper.

    Saw the movie and read the book. How about you? Ever notice that the movie doesn't exactly follow the book? Is that really your response? Did I watch a movie? That's your rebuttal? That's sad. 

    You don't think the Bush regime tried to reach for reasons to invade huh? That's interesting. 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationale_for_the_Iraq_War

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYkc4gD2ID4

    You brought up the names of Kyle and Tillman with zero merit pertaining to the argument. They had nothing to do with your argument and you could have attempted to make your sorry behind points without bringing up their names. 

    You could have substituted Ktrain in for one of their names, since I enlisted after 9/11 but prior to Iraq and the attempted point would have been the same, and still would have been as meaningless. Yet you didn't. Why? Because I am not nearly as heroic as they are nor have I accomplished what they have. 

    You brought up their names to make your post seem more justifiable, which it didn't. It only stood to drag their great names into an insignificant debate that is way below where their great names should ever be mentioned. 

    Stop using their names unless it has direct meaning to what your argument pertains to. It didn't and you didn't have too previously. You're using their names to try and prove your meaningless agenda for getting Trump elected. You're a scumbag for doing so. You should apologize to their families and their memories. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:

    Iraq wasn't about 9/11. We didn't go into Iraq until 2003, we almost immediately went into Afghanistan. Iraq invasion was a UN resolution to punish Saddam for not cooperating with WMD inspections. 

    How dare you misconstrue my sentiments for Pat Tillman and Chris Kyle. I said they were both Patriots for enlisting on their own after 9/11...which is absolutely true. Sure, Tillman didn't agree with the war in Iraq but there were many service men who did...for phucks sake, Kyle went back to Iraq 4 times so you need to just put a cork in it.

    Maybe Tillman didn't agree with Iraq but he spent time there and Afghanistan. He's entitled to his opinions just like you and I are....but I'd be shocked if you even went to see the movie American Sniper.

    Saw the movie and read the book. How about you? Ever notice that the movie doesn't exactly follow the book? Is that really your response? Did I watch a movie? That's your rebuttal? That's sad. 

    You don't think the Bush regime tried to reach for reasons to invade huh? That's interesting. 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationale_for_the_Iraq_War

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYkc4gD2ID4

    You brought up the names of Kyle and Tillman with zero merit pertaining to the argument. They had nothing to do with your argument and you could have attempted to make your sorry behind points without bringing up their names. 

    You could have substituted Ktrain in for one of their names, since I enlisted after 9/11 but prior to Iraq and the attempted point would have been the same, and still would have been as meaningless. Yet you didn't. Why? Because I am not nearly as heroic as they are nor have I accomplished what they have. 

    You brought up their names to make your post seem more justifiable, which it didn't. It only stood to drag their great names into an insignificant debate that is way below where their great names should ever be mentioned. 

    Stop using their names unless it has direct meaning to what your argument pertains to. It didn't and you didn't have too previously. You're using their names to try and prove your meaningless agenda for getting Trump elected. You're a scumbag for doing so. You should apologize to their families and their memories. 


     
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    And for the record, this isn't a pro Hillary post. I'll go on record right now as saying that as dysfunctional as the RNC was, the DNC is even worse. Inviting Lena dunham is a disgrace and Demi Lovoto is a travesity. 

    Ted Cruz was right, vote your conscience. Vote Gary Johnson. 
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    And for the record, this isn't a pro Hillary post. I'll go on record right now as saying that as dysfunctional as the RNC was, the DNC is even worse. Inviting Lena dunham is a disgrace and Demi Lovoto is a travesity. 

    Ted Cruz was right, vote your conscience. Vote Gary Johnson. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

    And for the record, this isn't a pro Hillary post. I'll go on record right now as saying that as dysfunctional as the RNC was, the DNC is even worse. Inviting Lena dunham is a disgrace and Demi Lovoto is a travesity. 

    Ted Cruz was right, vote your conscience. Vote Gary Johnson. 

    Gary Johnson is a nutcase. He was almost ousted by the party. He's a loony tune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

    And for the record, this isn't a pro Hillary post. I'll go on record right now as saying that as dysfunctional as the RNC was, the DNC is even worse. Inviting Lena dunham is a disgrace and Demi Lovoto is a travesity. 

    Ted Cruz was right, vote your conscience. Vote Gary Johnson. 

    Gary Johnson is a nutcase. He was almost ousted by the party. He's a loony tune.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:


    Gary Johnson is a nutcase. He was almost ousted by the party. He's a loony tune.

    I'm all ears. State your case....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:


    Gary Johnson is a nutcase. He was almost ousted by the party. He's a loony tune.

    I'm all ears. State your case....
     
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    Hahaha just wondering if Melania and Michelle hired the same speech writer. 
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    Hahaha just wondering if Melania and Michelle hired the same speech writer. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:


    Saw the movie and read the book. How about you? Ever notice that the movie doesn't exactly follow the book? Is that really your response? Did I watch a movie? That's your rebuttal? That's sad. 

    You don't think the Bush regime tried to reach for reasons to invade huh? That's interesting. 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationale_for_the_Iraq_War

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYkc4gD2ID4

    You brought up the names of Kyle and Tillman with zero merit pertaining to the argument. They had nothing to do with your argument and you could have attempted to make your sorry behind points without bringing up their names. 

    You could have substituted Ktrain in for one of their names, since I enlisted after 9/11 but prior to Iraq and the attempted point would have been the same, and still would have been as meaningless. Yet you didn't. Why? Because I am not nearly as heroic as they are nor have I accomplished what they have. 

    You brought up their names to make your post seem more justifiable, which it didn't. It only stood to drag their great names into an insignificant debate that is way below where their great names should ever be mentioned. 

    Stop using their names unless it has direct meaning to what your argument pertains to. It didn't and you didn't have too previously. You're using their names to try and prove your meaningless agenda for getting Trump elected. You're a scumbag for doing so. You should apologize to their families and their memories. 



    I love how you think you're the protector of both of those guys great names...like nobody can bring them up unless you approve. Get over yourself! 

    I did read the book, and I especially like the part where Kyle says if his family didn't need him he would've loved to go back.

    I know you said you read the book but I beg to differ...your reading comprehension is sub standard. I've had to correct you more than a few times when you tried to jump my shyt for something I never said. Even when you read a book, you ain't readin no book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:


    Saw the movie and read the book. How about you? Ever notice that the movie doesn't exactly follow the book? Is that really your response? Did I watch a movie? That's your rebuttal? That's sad. 

    You don't think the Bush regime tried to reach for reasons to invade huh? That's interesting. 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationale_for_the_Iraq_War

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYkc4gD2ID4

    You brought up the names of Kyle and Tillman with zero merit pertaining to the argument. They had nothing to do with your argument and you could have attempted to make your sorry behind points without bringing up their names. 

    You could have substituted Ktrain in for one of their names, since I enlisted after 9/11 but prior to Iraq and the attempted point would have been the same, and still would have been as meaningless. Yet you didn't. Why? Because I am not nearly as heroic as they are nor have I accomplished what they have. 

    You brought up their names to make your post seem more justifiable, which it didn't. It only stood to drag their great names into an insignificant debate that is way below where their great names should ever be mentioned. 

    Stop using their names unless it has direct meaning to what your argument pertains to. It didn't and you didn't have too previously. You're using their names to try and prove your meaningless agenda for getting Trump elected. You're a scumbag for doing so. You should apologize to their families and their memories. 



    I love how you think you're the protector of both of those guys great names...like nobody can bring them up unless you approve. Get over yourself! 

    I did read the book, and I especially like the part where Kyle says if his family didn't need him he would've loved to go back.

    I know you said you read the book but I beg to differ...your reading comprehension is sub standard. I've had to correct you more than a few times when you tried to jump my shyt for something I never said. Even when you read a book, you ain't readin no book.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    Meh, Hillary Lies every other time she opens her mouth and it doesn't seem to bother her cool aid drinkers.

    You may have a good point though. Conservatives are typically more stringent towards their candidates....would never have kept electing a guy like Ted Kennedy after his shenanigans.

    You believe whatever Fox, and Rush tell you, don't you ? 

     "  Conservatives are typically more stringent towards their candidates....would never have kept electing a guy like Ted Kennedy after his shenanigans. "

    How about Nixon ?   Bush ?   Reagan, Iran Contra ?

    LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    Meh, Hillary Lies every other time she opens her mouth and it doesn't seem to bother her cool aid drinkers.

    You may have a good point though. Conservatives are typically more stringent towards their candidates....would never have kept electing a guy like Ted Kennedy after his shenanigans.

    You believe whatever Fox, and Rush tell you, don't you ? 

     "  Conservatives are typically more stringent towards their candidates....would never have kept electing a guy like Ted Kennedy after his shenanigans. "

    How about Nixon ?   Bush ?   Reagan, Iran Contra ?

    LOL
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