Up date on DOGE- Department of Government Efficiency spending cuts ...

Status quo we've been running is not sustainable....I don't know how anyone would disagree with this.  

@wallstreetcappers

 You answered a question with unqualified data, I asked for more than a set of numbers as I am not interested in blind unqualified data.

What question and what unqualified data?

I will answer it again with qualified data.  

@wallstreetcappers

 If you are referring to the study that they did on workers.  It is directly from the abstract and is very qualified data.  
There are many other studies you can look up.  

Just because you do not agree with theirs studies does not make them unqualified studies.  That is what the study sets out and explains and the folks doing it do this for a living.  

You cannot use just your opinion or your ‘good’ experiences with the workers.  
The overwhelming perception from folks is that government workers are less efficient and work less.  
So, that is why they did the studies.  

Have you done your own study to prover your perception that it is not true.  

Sometimes it has to be you that is wrong; it cannot be everyone else, including experts that have studied it and given ‘qualified’ data.  

That is the only question i answered and used data.  So, I never considered you did not consider it a ‘qualified’ study.  

@wallstreetcappers

 For someone who types so much you really do a mediocre job regarding discord and discussion,

Then yours is far worse than mediocre.  You still haven’t answered of the questions posed to you.  A few generalities.  But mostly wondering all around to different topics.  

@kcblitzkrieg

 How do you draw that conclusion? If I am not in favor of land mine project 2025 politics then I do not consider there to be a problem? Good logic.

If you read my verbose extremely long sleepy replies you would not make these kind of replies because I say the exact opposite yet somehow you do not see it.

@Raiders22

 You bury me in paper with a thousand interrogative retorts then lose your own messages to know what I am stating like 5 times. Post 193 

Ask questions that spark conversation and discord and be concise not buck shot all over the place with loaded questions. I answer a solid percentage of your barrage given that you are poor at making conversation and great at burying me with partisan conjecture.

@wallstreetcappers

 How do you draw that conclusion? If I am not in favor of land mine project 2025 politics then I do not consider there to be a problem? Good logic.

Nope not at all.  My conclusion was drawn by the fact that you choose not to answer the question.....and with your reply to me you just added another missed opportunity to answer it.  

Its OK if you don't want to, no one is forcing you to admit or deny there is and has been a problem. It is a very simple question and it has nothing to do with not being in favor of "land mine project".  Not sure why you are so resistant to answer the simple yes / no question but that is your choice and right.  Carry on....

@wallstreetcappers

Again, post #193 was a standalone post.  
It was NOT in answer to ANY question from you. 
It was a question TO YOU that you have not answered yet. 

@wallstreetcappers

I am not poor at making conversation. You are. 

I answered your question about have people looked at the government workers and cited what they concluded. 
You ignored that and wondered around like you do. 
That is not good discussion. 

Then I asked if you thought there was a problem. 
You ignored this and wondered around again 

That is not good discussion. 

I also asked what would do differently and you could only say improve the people.  How?  Why is it not being done?  What should be done to the managers that have not been doing that?

Nothing from you. 

I asked if not Musk, who should try to fix it?

Nothing from you.  

That is why it is not a good discussion to you. 
You simply have you mind made up against anything Trump or Musk wants to do and refuse to acknowledge that there is even a problem. 
So, naturally you can’t discuss things with folks when they ignore facts when they are presented and refuse to answer questions but want theirs answered.  Then get upset when theirs are answered with information they do not like.  
If you want a discussion there has to be a starting point to enter a discussion.   
Not all of this long posting you do with wondering around topics. 

So, please just use ladder logic and start with the first question.  
Is there a problem?

@kcblitzkrieg

 Read my replies they are right here...you didnt and that is your choice.

@Raiders22

 Like your comrade above, I answered every one of your comments. I do not have to answer who if not Musk, that is a dead end question. I do not think a single person or body makes for a good analysis of the real problem. So why would I answer a question you asked which serves no purpose? I disagree with this entire enterprise, I do not want another singular or small group doing this, that is your approach not mine.

Thank you for the repeated deflection on answering what I asked YOU..nice and condescending of you as usual.

@wallstreetcappers

 No sir.  Not a dead end question.  
I get you can’t stand Musk.  
So, would you rather Congress try?  

I did not see if you even admitted there was a problem?  Did I miss that answer?

I did not see if you answered if you agreed with what previous presidents had tried to do.  Did I miss that answer?

@wallstreetcappers

 I was not condescending.  You always choose to take it that way.  I just try to keep you focused on the topic.  
That is why I usually break it up and reply separately to each of your points.  Instead of just answering you post a convoluted post that really does not address what I am interested in reading your stance or view on.  

Big win for DOGE........Today an appeals court on Monday cleared the way for billionaire Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency to once again access people’s private data at three federal agencies, a win for the Trump administration ..

The Trump administration says DOGE is targeting waste across the federal government by addressing alleged fraud and upgrading technology.

Let's see what these people are hiding....

The court left in place, however, an order temporarily blocking DOGE from the Social Security Administration, which contains vast amounts of personal information...

If ,we are going to modernize an agency’s software and IT systems it seems to me ..that it would require administrator-level access to those systems, including any internal databases..........no problem here.

Futurism reports Musk admitting DOGE efforts have been a dismal failure.  He anticipates finding up to $150 billion in government waste and fraud which is far short of expected $2 trillion in savings.  No one really knows how much DOGE has found.  DOGE claims are challenged because wall of receipts is full of errors.  Polls show Musk is very unpopular.

Quick update....

A new record of $1 trillion was just approved for the defense budget.....like I've said, nothing DOGE will do can ever compare to the Government's ability to "spend baby spend".  The "uni-party" is still alive and well 90 plus days in 

DOGE claims spending cuts save $160 billion.  However cuts cost taxpayers $135 billion according to Partnership for public service estimate.  DOGE wastes include putting thousands of employees on paid leave, rehiring workers and lost productivity.  This doesn't include costs of defending lawsuits and lost tax revenue from IRS cuts.

   DOGE saved 25 Billion for the American people ......

President Trump and Elon ...we Americans Thank You ..

The status of the members who answered the thread question.

Barbarossa--"enough to balance the budget"

Raders22-   " I will be optimistic and go with a high number of $1T "

Uniman--     "I'll say no more than $500 billion."

SarasotaSlim-" I will say Musk The DOGEFather .. will fall a little short ,however he has a fair chance of cutting 850 Billion.....

unplucked_gem-- " I come in over 1 trillion found with half that getting cut."

BWHAABHAAAAAAAAA 

The Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations alleges Elon Musk could avoid at least $2.37 billion in potential legal financial liability because of his influence over government agencies and federal workforce cuts through DOGE.

It was never about waste, fraud & abuse. It was always about the grift.

Aim high, even if you fall short, you’ll still be closer than you were before.

IRS estimates $500 billion in lost tax revenue from firing employees.  So DOGE didn't saved any money for taxpayers.  Even Musk admits DOGE has been a dismal failure.

@Midnight1

 Alleges...could...potential... 

 Stopped reading after seeing those speculations. Bring facts or else it's just non sense. 

But yet, you believe they've saved 25 billion

Seriously, do you think they have the balls to say they actually have ALL the data? No one believes any of the DOGE numbers & why would they open themselves up for a certain lawsuit from Deadbeat Donnie?

The country knows DOGE is bullshit & has no power but yet caused chaos because Congress is so fucking weak & now judges are being arrested.

Is this the America you want?