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    Truthers, where are the passengers of Flight 77 and 93?

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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 12:23 AM ET #1

    I'm just curious......I've seen stuff on the internet.....but just want to see what you think......where are these passengers if these planes didn't hit the Pentagon and Shanksville?
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    I'm just curious......I've seen stuff on the internet.....but just want to see what you think......where are these passengers if these planes didn't hit the Pentagon and Shanksville?
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 12:27 AM ET #2

    ask The "mind Ventura"


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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 12:29 AM ET #3

    I'll just copy and paste my response from another thread that the no planes are just red herrings to get people like you to dismiss EVERYTHING against the government.

    People SAW the plane, just as they saw the planes hit the WTC towers. Just because you think no one could fly so a missile must have hit the Pentagon doesn't really fly because we know with Operation Northwoods from 1962 they talked about remote controlled planes...2001 it could have been computer controlled. There were renovations on that side of the Pentagon and the plane could have been guided in by something in that wing of the Pentagon.

    Northwoods: https://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

    Why wasn't it shot down?

    https://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/cjcsd/cjcsi/3610_01a.pdf

    Do you know about CJCSI 3610.01A (above link) which was dated June 1, 2001 (3 months prior to 9/11) which changed the procedures of how hijacked aircraft were handled and required contacting Secretary of Defense (Donald Rumsfeld) for approval.

    We know Rumsfeld and Cheney had been involved with PNAC prior to the Bush Admin.

    And Minetta's testimony proves there was an order given...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y

    Have you ever read PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses"?

    https://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
    One of their 4 core missions was to "fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theater wars" (PAGE 11)

    And on page 63 they state "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor."

    9/11 was their Pearl Harbor to implement all their policies.

    So there is a lot more that you could be talking about and the missile theory just makes people dismiss all the documented evidence.

    Read their documents.
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    I'll just copy and paste my response from another thread that the no planes are just red herrings to get people like you to dismiss EVERYTHING against the government.

    People SAW the plane, just as they saw the planes hit the WTC towers. Just because you think no one could fly so a missile must have hit the Pentagon doesn't really fly because we know with Operation Northwoods from 1962 they talked about remote controlled planes...2001 it could have been computer controlled. There were renovations on that side of the Pentagon and the plane could have been guided in by something in that wing of the Pentagon.

    Northwoods: https://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

    Why wasn't it shot down?

    https://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/cjcsd/cjcsi/3610_01a.pdf

    Do you know about CJCSI 3610.01A (above link) which was dated June 1, 2001 (3 months prior to 9/11) which changed the procedures of how hijacked aircraft were handled and required contacting Secretary of Defense (Donald Rumsfeld) for approval.

    We know Rumsfeld and Cheney had been involved with PNAC prior to the Bush Admin.

    And Minetta's testimony proves there was an order given...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y

    Have you ever read PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses"?

    https://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
    One of their 4 core missions was to "fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theater wars" (PAGE 11)

    And on page 63 they state "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor."

    9/11 was their Pearl Harbor to implement all their policies.

    So there is a lot more that you could be talking about and the missile theory just makes people dismiss all the documented evidence.

    Read their documents.
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 12:33 AM ET #4

    1st link is a fake
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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 12:35 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Iveycheats:

    1st link is a fake

    WOW! Nice try, well actually not a nice try, but your wrong!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iveycheats:

    1st link is a fake

    WOW! Nice try, well actually not a nice try, but your wrong!
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 12:38 AM ET #6

    Truthers love talking about that Mineta testimony...........wow, is that your evidence?   Oh my

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    Truthers love talking about that Mineta testimony...........wow, is that your evidence?   Oh my

     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 12:39 AM ET #7

    Northwoods was declassified as part of the JFK assassination records:
    https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/review-board/index.html
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    Northwoods was declassified as part of the JFK assassination records:
    https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/review-board/index.html
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 12:40 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Iveycheats:

    1st link is a fake

     

    I could be wrong about that

     

    the Mineta testimony being a big point of evidence is a joke....and that goes with the rest of your links

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iveycheats:

    1st link is a fake

     

    I could be wrong about that

     

    the Mineta testimony being a big point of evidence is a joke....and that goes with the rest of your links

     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 12:40 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Iveycheats:

    Truthers love talking about that Mineta testimony...........wow, is that your evidence?   Oh my



    It shows Cheney was involved in the stand down order to allow the plane to hit the Pentagon.

    You're pretty slow their fella.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iveycheats:

    Truthers love talking about that Mineta testimony...........wow, is that your evidence?   Oh my



    It shows Cheney was involved in the stand down order to allow the plane to hit the Pentagon.

    You're pretty slow their fella.
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 12:41 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by moneym8:

    I'll just copy and paste my response from another thread that the no planes are just red herrings to get people like you to dismiss EVERYTHING against the government.

    People SAW the plane, just as they saw the planes hit the WTC towers. Just because you think no one could fly so a missile must have hit the Pentagon doesn't really fly because we know with Operation Northwoods from 1962 they talked about remote controlled planes...2001 it could have been computer controlled. There were renovations on that side of the Pentagon and the plane could have been guided in by something in that wing of the Pentagon.

    Northwoods: https://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

    Why wasn't it shot down?

    https://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/cjcsd/cjcsi/3610_01a.pdf

    Do you know about CJCSI 3610.01A (above link) which was dated June 1, 2001 (3 months prior to 9/11) which changed the procedures of how hijacked aircraft were handled and required contacting Secretary of Defense (Donald Rumsfeld) for approval.

    We know Rumsfeld and Cheney had been involved with PNAC prior to the Bush Admin.

    And Minetta's testimony proves there was an order given...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y

    Have you ever read PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses"?

    https://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

    One of their 4 core missions was to "fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theater wars" (PAGE 11)

    And on page 63 they state "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor."

    9/11 was their Pearl Harbor to implement all their policies.

    So there is a lot more that you could be talking about and the missile theory just makes people dismiss all the documented evidence.

    Read their documents.

     

    When I started this thread, I asked truthers, where are the passengers off 77 and 93?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moneym8:

    I'll just copy and paste my response from another thread that the no planes are just red herrings to get people like you to dismiss EVERYTHING against the government.

    People SAW the plane, just as they saw the planes hit the WTC towers. Just because you think no one could fly so a missile must have hit the Pentagon doesn't really fly because we know with Operation Northwoods from 1962 they talked about remote controlled planes...2001 it could have been computer controlled. There were renovations on that side of the Pentagon and the plane could have been guided in by something in that wing of the Pentagon.

    Northwoods: https://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

    Why wasn't it shot down?

    https://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/cjcsd/cjcsi/3610_01a.pdf

    Do you know about CJCSI 3610.01A (above link) which was dated June 1, 2001 (3 months prior to 9/11) which changed the procedures of how hijacked aircraft were handled and required contacting Secretary of Defense (Donald Rumsfeld) for approval.

    We know Rumsfeld and Cheney had been involved with PNAC prior to the Bush Admin.

    And Minetta's testimony proves there was an order given...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y

    Have you ever read PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses"?

    https://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

    One of their 4 core missions was to "fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theater wars" (PAGE 11)

    And on page 63 they state "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor."

    9/11 was their Pearl Harbor to implement all their policies.

    So there is a lot more that you could be talking about and the missile theory just makes people dismiss all the documented evidence.

    Read their documents.

     

    When I started this thread, I asked truthers, where are the passengers off 77 and 93?

     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 12:41 AM ET #11

    why even give "truthers" the dignity of bringing it up?

    just ignore them, they are scum. i hope something bad happens to each and everyone of em
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    why even give "truthers" the dignity of bringing it up?

    just ignore them, they are scum. i hope something bad happens to each and everyone of em
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 12:43 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by moneym8:



    It shows Cheney was involved in the stand down order to allow the plane to hit the Pentagon.

    You're pretty slow their fella.

     

    I'm slow?  You've posted numerous times in this thread without answering the question Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by moneym8:



    It shows Cheney was involved in the stand down order to allow the plane to hit the Pentagon.

    You're pretty slow their fella.

     

    I'm slow?  You've posted numerous times in this thread without answering the question Einstein

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iveycheats:

     

    I could be wrong about that

     

    the Mineta testimony being a big point of evidence is a joke....and that goes with the rest of your links



    You are wrong, but you obviously think everything is wrong because you don't want to acknowledge anything as real and you have no intention of reading the documents.

    So there is really no point in you and me getting into a discussion you mind is set without reading their own documents. That's fine you might as well just move on then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iveycheats:

     

    I could be wrong about that

     

    the Mineta testimony being a big point of evidence is a joke....and that goes with the rest of your links



    You are wrong, but you obviously think everything is wrong because you don't want to acknowledge anything as real and you have no intention of reading the documents.

    So there is really no point in you and me getting into a discussion you mind is set without reading their own documents. That's fine you might as well just move on then.
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 12:44 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Iveycheats:

     

    I'm slow?  You've posted numerous times in this thread without answering the question Einstein



    I did answer your question so you obviously don't read anything.
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    I'm slow?  You've posted numerous times in this thread without answering the question Einstein



    I did answer your question so you obviously don't read anything.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coppsguy:

    why even give "truthers" the dignity of bringing it up?

    just ignore them, they are scum. i hope something bad happens to each and everyone of em
    I completely understand how you dont believe 911 was a inside job but why the hate to someone who does? What does it matter to you what someone else thinks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coppsguy:

    why even give "truthers" the dignity of bringing it up?

    just ignore them, they are scum. i hope something bad happens to each and everyone of em
    I completely understand how you dont believe 911 was a inside job but why the hate to someone who does? What does it matter to you what someone else thinks?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by moneym8:



    You are wrong, but you obviously think everything is wrong because you don't want to acknowledge anything as real and you have no intention of reading the documents.

    So there is really no point in you and me getting into a discussion you mind is set without reading their own documents. That's fine you might as well just move on then.

     

    I started this thread with a question.....you've posted several times without an answer

     

    show me where your links answered my questions

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    Quote Originally Posted by moneym8:



    You are wrong, but you obviously think everything is wrong because you don't want to acknowledge anything as real and you have no intention of reading the documents.

    So there is really no point in you and me getting into a discussion you mind is set without reading their own documents. That's fine you might as well just move on then.

     

    I started this thread with a question.....you've posted several times without an answer

     

    show me where your links answered my questions

     
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    I dont hate anyone
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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 12:51 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Coppsguy:

    I dont hate anyone

    So calling people scum and wishing something bad happens to them isnt hate? Ok I guess you were joking then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coppsguy:

    I dont hate anyone

    So calling people scum and wishing something bad happens to them isnt hate? Ok I guess you were joking then.

     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 12:52 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Iveycheats:

     

    I started this thread with a question.....you've posted several times without an answer

     

    show me where your links answered my questions



    Go to the very first post of mine, the "no planes" are just red herrings to get people like you to dismiss EVERYTHING and it obviously worked because you are focusing on the worng thing.

    LOOK AT THEIR OWN DOCUMENTS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iveycheats:

     

    I started this thread with a question.....you've posted several times without an answer

     

    show me where your links answered my questions



    Go to the very first post of mine, the "no planes" are just red herrings to get people like you to dismiss EVERYTHING and it obviously worked because you are focusing on the worng thing.

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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 12:52 AM ET #20

    Notice i never used the word hate!

    You'll get over it
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    You'll get over it
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 12:56 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Coppsguy:

    Notice i never used the word hate!

    You'll get over it
    Ahhhh....we got us a wordsmith here. Wants to talk in circles and insult people.

    Theres nothing for me to get over.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coppsguy:

    Notice i never used the word hate!

    You'll get over it
    Ahhhh....we got us a wordsmith here. Wants to talk in circles and insult people.

    Theres nothing for me to get over.  

     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 12:58 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by moneym8:



    Go to the very first post of mine, the "no planes" are just red herrings to get people like you to dismiss EVERYTHING and it obviously worked because you are focusing on the worng thing.

    LOOK AT THEIR OWN DOCUMENTS

     

    I'm not focusing on the wrong thing....I started the thread....WHERE ARE THE PASSENGERS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moneym8:



    Go to the very first post of mine, the "no planes" are just red herrings to get people like you to dismiss EVERYTHING and it obviously worked because you are focusing on the worng thing.

    LOOK AT THEIR OWN DOCUMENTS

     

    I'm not focusing on the wrong thing....I started the thread....WHERE ARE THE PASSENGERS?

     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 1:03 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Iveycheats:

     

    I'm not focusing on the wrong thing....I started the thread....WHERE ARE THE PASSENGERS?



    They are dead obviously because the planes crashed.

    The NO PLANE is a red herring.

    So, I'll leave your thread and let you ignore actual documents and let you wait for someone to make something up.

    I'm not sure what point there is to that, but have fun with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iveycheats:

     

    I'm not focusing on the wrong thing....I started the thread....WHERE ARE THE PASSENGERS?



    They are dead obviously because the planes crashed.

    The NO PLANE is a red herring.

    So, I'll leave your thread and let you ignore actual documents and let you wait for someone to make something up.

    I'm not sure what point there is to that, but have fun with it.
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2011 - 1:06 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by moneym8:



    They are dead obviously because the planes crashed.

    The NO PLANE is a red herring.

    So, I'll leave your thread and let you ignore actual documents and let you wait for someone to make something up.

    I'm not sure what point there is to that, but have fun with it.

     

    So you agree 77 hit the Pentagon and 93 crashed in Western PA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moneym8:



    They are dead obviously because the planes crashed.

    The NO PLANE is a red herring.

    So, I'll leave your thread and let you ignore actual documents and let you wait for someone to make something up.

    I'm not sure what point there is to that, but have fun with it.

     

    So you agree 77 hit the Pentagon and 93 crashed in Western PA?

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by moneym8:



    They are dead obviously because the planes crashed.

    The NO PLANE is a red herring.

    So, I'll leave your thread and let you ignore actual documents and let you wait for someone to make something up.

    I'm not sure what point there is to that, but have fun with it.

     

    Where did they crash genius?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moneym8:



    They are dead obviously because the planes crashed.

    The NO PLANE is a red herring.

    So, I'll leave your thread and let you ignore actual documents and let you wait for someone to make something up.

    I'm not sure what point there is to that, but have fun with it.

     

    Where did they crash genius?

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