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    Trump Flattens Iran’s Nukes in Daring Strike — “Fordow is Gone”

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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2025 - 8:36 PM ET #201

    Former CIA director Panette warns that unlike other presidents, Trump ignores or rejects US intelligence.  Job of US intelligence is to discover truth.  But for Trump, the truth is what he wants to believe.  Also disturbing that white house limits sharing of classified information to congress.

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    Former CIA director Panette warns that unlike other presidents, Trump ignores or rejects US intelligence.  Job of US intelligence is to discover truth.  But for Trump, the truth is what he wants to believe.  Also disturbing that white house limits sharing of classified information to congress.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2025 - 8:43 PM ET #202

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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2025 - 12:53 AM ET #203

    Wallstreetcappers

     

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @SarasotaSlim  I guess since the thread topic is a fabrication and exaggeration there have been many tangents which spawned from a flawed opening topic. ps you are very capable of reading the flow if you were serious about the question, so feel free to find how the Fannie topic started.

     

    It appears your assessment of the Topic Title is the one that's flawed...

    The experts agree:

    From nuclear regulators to foreign policy experts to members of the intelligence community, every knowledgeable person is in agreement that President Donald J. Trump obliterated Iran’s nuclear facilities.

     

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    @SarasotaSlim  I guess since the thread topic is a fabrication and exaggeration there have been many tangents which spawned from a flawed opening topic. ps you are very capable of reading the flow if you were serious about the question, so feel free to find how the Fannie topic started.

     

    It appears your assessment of the Topic Title is the one that's flawed...

    The experts agree:

    From nuclear regulators to foreign policy experts to members of the intelligence community, every knowledgeable person is in agreement that President Donald J. Trump obliterated Iran’s nuclear facilities.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2025 - 1:14 AM ET #204

    “Why is the amount of damage done even a point of contention? An American President took decisive action against a worldwide existential threat. If there is a little bit of damage - Iran will aim to rebuild and the US will continue to monitor the situation. If there is a lot of damage - Iran will aim to rebuild and the US will continue to monitor the situation.

     

    The point of whether there is "a lot" or "a little" bit of damage is a moot, and frankly, inconsequential point. I think all Democrats and Republicans agree that Iran should not have access to nuclear weapons.”

    Not sure he is correct about ‘all’ Democrats.  Because some certainly do not feel that way.  
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    “Why is the amount of damage done even a point of contention? An American President took decisive action against a worldwide existential threat. If there is a little bit of damage - Iran will aim to rebuild and the US will continue to monitor the situation. If there is a lot of damage - Iran will aim to rebuild and the US will continue to monitor the situation.

     

    The point of whether there is "a lot" or "a little" bit of damage is a moot, and frankly, inconsequential point. I think all Democrats and Republicans agree that Iran should not have access to nuclear weapons.”

    Not sure he is correct about ‘all’ Democrats.  Because some certainly do not feel that way.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    “Why is the amount of damage done even a point of contention? An American President took decisive action against a worldwide existential threat. If there is a little bit of damage - Iran will aim to rebuild and the US will continue to monitor the situation. If there is a lot of damage - Iran will aim to rebuild and the US will continue to monitor the situation.   The point of whether there is "a lot" or "a little" bit of damage is a moot, and frankly, inconsequential point. I think all Democrats and Republicans agree that Iran should not have access to nuclear weapons.” Not sure he is correct about ‘all’ Democrats.  Because some certainly do not feel that way.

    a little bit more than just "some Democrats" 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    “Why is the amount of damage done even a point of contention? An American President took decisive action against a worldwide existential threat. If there is a little bit of damage - Iran will aim to rebuild and the US will continue to monitor the situation. If there is a lot of damage - Iran will aim to rebuild and the US will continue to monitor the situation.   The point of whether there is "a lot" or "a little" bit of damage is a moot, and frankly, inconsequential point. I think all Democrats and Republicans agree that Iran should not have access to nuclear weapons.” Not sure he is correct about ‘all’ Democrats.  Because some certainly do not feel that way.

    a little bit more than just "some Democrats" 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2025 - 3:08 AM ET #206

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     True. I was giving some benefit of the doubt. 
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     True. I was giving some benefit of the doubt. 
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    Radiation sickness is setting in those areas expect higher cancer rates. Mutant births and gross environmental standards of living for the near 1000 year cycle. If you own property sell sell sell.....

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    Radiation sickness is setting in those areas expect higher cancer rates. Mutant births and gross environmental standards of living for the near 1000 year cycle. If you own property sell sell sell.....

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2025 - 11:34 AM ET #208

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     You can correct me and answer the obvious questions. I am not convinced by one persons opinion when the reasons are not explained. This is another Iraq repeat where a reason is manufactured and crafted that does not exist. I have not yet seen a GOP member including you just come out and admit that we did this for Israel and that there is no immediate or direct threat to warrant a bombing of another country by our military.

    If I wanted to read an apologist for Trump Ive already seen that, no need for your partisan copy and paste validation, the same bad logic is being used in spades here already.

     

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     You can correct me and answer the obvious questions. I am not convinced by one persons opinion when the reasons are not explained. This is another Iraq repeat where a reason is manufactured and crafted that does not exist. I have not yet seen a GOP member including you just come out and admit that we did this for Israel and that there is no immediate or direct threat to warrant a bombing of another country by our military.

    If I wanted to read an apologist for Trump Ive already seen that, no need for your partisan copy and paste validation, the same bad logic is being used in spades here already.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2025 - 1:26 PM ET #209

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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2025 - 1:47 PM ET #210

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     Nah they needed US to be the front man because if it was Israel alone there would be massive regional backlash and Israel knows this. I think Trump IS doing the bidding of Israel and that is the only reason this went down.

    If Iran were such a threat why did Trump not take them out his first trip? Bibi was not on a military rampage last time, gee I wonder what the correlation is here.

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     Nah they needed US to be the front man because if it was Israel alone there would be massive regional backlash and Israel knows this. I think Trump IS doing the bidding of Israel and that is the only reason this went down.

    If Iran were such a threat why did Trump not take them out his first trip? Bibi was not on a military rampage last time, gee I wonder what the correlation is here.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2025 - 2:12 PM ET #212

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     Lets break it down even more to a simple level, Bibi in control= Israel military aggressive offensively, Bibi not in power= Israel the opposite.

    Bibi was mired in suspicion of corruption and law/rule breaking from 2017 to 2020 and only returned to his position in 2022, so Trump's first romp was without Bibi running rampant as is his historic approach. 

    Israel knew that Biden would not openly allow and support and join a military offensive in the same way a GOP leader would so shockingly Israel began their military actions to extremes when it was decided Trump would be in office.

    If the lies Trump is pushing were true he would have done something WITHOUT Israel while Bibi was out of the position dealing with his corruption and law breaking trials.

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     Lets break it down even more to a simple level, Bibi in control= Israel military aggressive offensively, Bibi not in power= Israel the opposite.

    Bibi was mired in suspicion of corruption and law/rule breaking from 2017 to 2020 and only returned to his position in 2022, so Trump's first romp was without Bibi running rampant as is his historic approach. 

    Israel knew that Biden would not openly allow and support and join a military offensive in the same way a GOP leader would so shockingly Israel began their military actions to extremes when it was decided Trump would be in office.

    If the lies Trump is pushing were true he would have done something WITHOUT Israel while Bibi was out of the position dealing with his corruption and law breaking trials.

     
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     "If Iran were such a threat why did Trump not take them out his first trip? Bibi was not on a military rampage last time, gee I wonder what the correlation is here."

     Maybe because they were attacked by groups backed by Iran? Iran had another 4 years under Biden to do as they pleased, & as they have been shouting "death to Israel!" & "death to America!" for decades, one must ask "if not now, when?".

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     "If Iran were such a threat why did Trump not take them out his first trip? Bibi was not on a military rampage last time, gee I wonder what the correlation is here."

     Maybe because they were attacked by groups backed by Iran? Iran had another 4 years under Biden to do as they pleased, & as they have been shouting "death to Israel!" & "death to America!" for decades, one must ask "if not now, when?".

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2025 - 5:12 PM ET #215

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    To me Gaza was the opportunity he needed to begin the regional military assault and that is exactly what he did. He knew Biden would not risk backlash during the election and same goes for the DNC in general so Israel turned up the heat knowing the US would say/do nothing and that is EXACTLY what happened, the rest is following the GOP military is good pattern and here we are.

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    To me Gaza was the opportunity he needed to begin the regional military assault and that is exactly what he did. He knew Biden would not risk backlash during the election and same goes for the DNC in general so Israel turned up the heat knowing the US would say/do nothing and that is EXACTLY what happened, the rest is following the GOP military is good pattern and here we are.

     
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     This would sort of imply that the issue is recent and that is no further from the truth, Iran=Persia=non Israeli and as we have discussed they have been enemies for thousands of years, this conflict has been played over and over since Moses, its the same thing. To Israel you are either on their side or they are going to wipe you off the earth and that is what they have prophesied and enacted as a unit of tribes, the same is how they are especially to those who are Orthodox and not progressive.

    It is smart of Bibi to PLAY Trump like a fool because without the US being their backstop it is my opinion their people would have been destroyed several times over long long ago. We are their biggest ally and the big brother that nobody wants to engage and Bibi uses this to forward his regional attack on all their enemies, it started with the small seed of Gaza and has turned into hundreds of thousands of deaths..quite pathetic that we allow it and support it.

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     This would sort of imply that the issue is recent and that is no further from the truth, Iran=Persia=non Israeli and as we have discussed they have been enemies for thousands of years, this conflict has been played over and over since Moses, its the same thing. To Israel you are either on their side or they are going to wipe you off the earth and that is what they have prophesied and enacted as a unit of tribes, the same is how they are especially to those who are Orthodox and not progressive.

    It is smart of Bibi to PLAY Trump like a fool because without the US being their backstop it is my opinion their people would have been destroyed several times over long long ago. We are their biggest ally and the big brother that nobody wants to engage and Bibi uses this to forward his regional attack on all their enemies, it started with the small seed of Gaza and has turned into hundreds of thousands of deaths..quite pathetic that we allow it and support it.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @UNIMAN  These articles you post do not meet the test of a bombing because if so why did Trump bomb there and not go after MUCH LARGER targets? Quit covering for him, just stop this partisan garbage and just admit this was 100% for Israel period. Why go after some chump when there are serious dangerous players holding knives right in front of your face? Why are we not going after India or Pakistan or some of the soviet provinces? Why Iran? Why not much more reckless and ambitious targets? This is idiocy as much as Iraq was...just stupid logic to cover up for a partisan decision.

    You are so blinded and living in a bubble? Iran has at least 800lbs of 60% enriched uranium. Where is the fallout? What are the radiation levels? You really think they would move it in broad daylight with satellites and Israel watching? 

    Bibi was going for regime change and Trump didn't want it. No more unstable civil war middle east countries. Do you really think Trump would bomb 800lbs of 60% uranium. If you do....an_roll_laugh

    It would be a disaster 10x Chernobyl.

    Obviously a deal was struck. Get the uranium out and we bomb your centrifuges, in return the US forces Israel to stand down and you and yuor regime remain in power. For Israel, we (US) take out the centrifuges and you stand down. Otherwise Israel would still be killing Iranian leaders. an_lightIt all stopped after Trump intervened.

    Why do you think Trump went ballistic when Iran and Israel had to have one more exchange? Why do think Trump said Iran has smart business people and they will do fine? 

    It all makes so much sense. Guess that's why you hate it.

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    @UNIMAN  These articles you post do not meet the test of a bombing because if so why did Trump bomb there and not go after MUCH LARGER targets? Quit covering for him, just stop this partisan garbage and just admit this was 100% for Israel period. Why go after some chump when there are serious dangerous players holding knives right in front of your face? Why are we not going after India or Pakistan or some of the soviet provinces? Why Iran? Why not much more reckless and ambitious targets? This is idiocy as much as Iraq was...just stupid logic to cover up for a partisan decision.

    You are so blinded and living in a bubble? Iran has at least 800lbs of 60% enriched uranium. Where is the fallout? What are the radiation levels? You really think they would move it in broad daylight with satellites and Israel watching? 

    Bibi was going for regime change and Trump didn't want it. No more unstable civil war middle east countries. Do you really think Trump would bomb 800lbs of 60% uranium. If you do....an_roll_laugh

    It would be a disaster 10x Chernobyl.

    Obviously a deal was struck. Get the uranium out and we bomb your centrifuges, in return the US forces Israel to stand down and you and yuor regime remain in power. For Israel, we (US) take out the centrifuges and you stand down. Otherwise Israel would still be killing Iranian leaders. an_lightIt all stopped after Trump intervened.

    Why do you think Trump went ballistic when Iran and Israel had to have one more exchange? Why do think Trump said Iran has smart business people and they will do fine? 

    It all makes so much sense. Guess that's why you hate it.

     
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    Should have said "are you" not "you are" stated above.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-forewarned-of-qatar-attack-to-avoid-wider-war-leave-room-for-us-talks/ar-AA1Hgvsp

    Why did Iran tip off their feeble attack on US base in Qatar? My question is; Why hasn't most of mainstream media report that Iran tipped off their attack?? an_light

    And again it's obvious, they had an agreement with Trump.

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    Should have said "are you" not "you are" stated above.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-forewarned-of-qatar-attack-to-avoid-wider-war-leave-room-for-us-talks/ar-AA1Hgvsp

    Why did Iran tip off their feeble attack on US base in Qatar? My question is; Why hasn't most of mainstream media report that Iran tipped off their attack?? an_light

    And again it's obvious, they had an agreement with Trump.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    To Israel you are either on their side or they are going to wipe you off the earth
    and that is what they have prophesied and enacted as a unit of tribes, the same is how they are especially to those who are Orthodox and not progressive. It is smart of Bibi to PLAY Trump like a fool because without the US being their backstop it is my opinion their people would have been destroyed several times over long long ago. We are their biggest ally and the big brother that nobody wants to engage and Bibi uses this to forward his regional attack on all their enemies, it started with the small seed of Gaza and has turned into hundreds of thousands of deaths..quite pathetic that we allow it and support it.

     

    If, anyone says they are going to destroy Israel......it is fare game for them to destroy you first..

    Israel will  be around a long time...for they are the chosen people..don't ever forget that......they have the Big Boss on their side...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    To Israel you are either on their side or they are going to wipe you off the earth
    and that is what they have prophesied and enacted as a unit of tribes, the same is how they are especially to those who are Orthodox and not progressive. It is smart of Bibi to PLAY Trump like a fool because without the US being their backstop it is my opinion their people would have been destroyed several times over long long ago. We are their biggest ally and the big brother that nobody wants to engage and Bibi uses this to forward his regional attack on all their enemies, it started with the small seed of Gaza and has turned into hundreds of thousands of deaths..quite pathetic that we allow it and support it.

     

    If, anyone says they are going to destroy Israel......it is fare game for them to destroy you first..

    Israel will  be around a long time...for they are the chosen people..don't ever forget that......they have the Big Boss on their side...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @THEMUGG  This would sort of imply that the issue is recent and that is no further from the truth, Iran=Persia=non Israeli and as we have discussed they have been enemies for thousands of years, this conflict has been played over and over since Moses, its the same thing. To Israel you are either on their side or they are going to wipe you off the earth and that is what they have prophesied and enacted as a unit of tribes, the same is how they are especially to those who are Orthodox and not progressive. It is smart of Bibi to PLAY Trump like a fool because without the US being their backstop it is my opinion their people would have been destroyed several times over long long ago. We are their biggest ally and the big brother that nobody wants to engage and Bibi uses this to forward his regional attack on all their enemies, it started with the small seed of Gaza and has turned into hundreds of thousands of deaths..quite pathetic that we allow it and support it.
    There's a bit of a difference now compared to thousands of years ago, namely armaments. I don't live in the ME, but I don't hear the same threats out of Israel that I hear from Iran. The world is fortunate that Biden & Harris aren't around for other evil regimes to walk all over anymore. The "don't" thing really didn't seem to deter anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @THEMUGG  This would sort of imply that the issue is recent and that is no further from the truth, Iran=Persia=non Israeli and as we have discussed they have been enemies for thousands of years, this conflict has been played over and over since Moses, its the same thing. To Israel you are either on their side or they are going to wipe you off the earth and that is what they have prophesied and enacted as a unit of tribes, the same is how they are especially to those who are Orthodox and not progressive. It is smart of Bibi to PLAY Trump like a fool because without the US being their backstop it is my opinion their people would have been destroyed several times over long long ago. We are their biggest ally and the big brother that nobody wants to engage and Bibi uses this to forward his regional attack on all their enemies, it started with the small seed of Gaza and has turned into hundreds of thousands of deaths..quite pathetic that we allow it and support it.
    There's a bit of a difference now compared to thousands of years ago, namely armaments. I don't live in the ME, but I don't hear the same threats out of Israel that I hear from Iran. The world is fortunate that Biden & Harris aren't around for other evil regimes to walk all over anymore. The "don't" thing really didn't seem to deter anyone.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: To Israel you are either on their side or they are going to wipe you off the earth and that is what they have prophesied and enacted as a unit of tribes, the same is how they are especially to those who are Orthodox and not progressive. It is smart of Bibi to PLAY Trump like a fool because without the US being their backstop it is my opinion their people would have been destroyed several times over long long ago. We are their biggest ally and the big brother that nobody wants to engage and Bibi uses this to forward his regional attack on all their enemies, it started with the small seed of Gaza and has turned into hundreds of thousands of deaths..quite pathetic that we allow it and support it.   If, anyone says they are going to destroy Israel......it is fare game for them to destroy you first.. Israel will  be around a long time...for they are the chosen people..don't ever forget that......they have the Big Boss on their side...

    When did AIPAC get to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: To Israel you are either on their side or they are going to wipe you off the earth and that is what they have prophesied and enacted as a unit of tribes, the same is how they are especially to those who are Orthodox and not progressive. It is smart of Bibi to PLAY Trump like a fool because without the US being their backstop it is my opinion their people would have been destroyed several times over long long ago. We are their biggest ally and the big brother that nobody wants to engage and Bibi uses this to forward his regional attack on all their enemies, it started with the small seed of Gaza and has turned into hundreds of thousands of deaths..quite pathetic that we allow it and support it.   If, anyone says they are going to destroy Israel......it is fare game for them to destroy you first.. Israel will  be around a long time...for they are the chosen people..don't ever forget that......they have the Big Boss on their side...

    When did AIPAC get to you?

     
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    Sounds like we bombed Iran all the way back to March.

     

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    Sounds like we bombed Iran all the way back to March.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Sounds like we bombed Iran all the way back to March.

    Iran may be able to resume uranium enrichment in months according to International atomic energy agency the United nations nuclear watchdog.  Apparently, IAEA agrees with Pentagon initial assessment.  Longer peace can only be achieved from a negotiated agreement backed by inspections.  The pen is mightier than the sword.  In hindsight, huge blunder for stupid Trump to abandon Iran nuclear deal the most significant international peace deal in a decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Sounds like we bombed Iran all the way back to March.

    Iran may be able to resume uranium enrichment in months according to International atomic energy agency the United nations nuclear watchdog.  Apparently, IAEA agrees with Pentagon initial assessment.  Longer peace can only be achieved from a negotiated agreement backed by inspections.  The pen is mightier than the sword.  In hindsight, huge blunder for stupid Trump to abandon Iran nuclear deal the most significant international peace deal in a decade.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Sounds like we bombed Iran all the way back to March. Iran may be able to resume uranium enrichment in months according to International atomic energy agency the United nations nuclear watchdog.  Apparently, IAEA agrees with Pentagon initial assessment.  Longer peace can only be achieved from a negotiated agreement backed by inspections.  The pen is mightier than the sword.  In hindsight, huge blunder for stupid Trump to abandon Iran nuclear deal the most significant international peace deal in a decade.
    You can't make this up....an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Sounds like we bombed Iran all the way back to March. Iran may be able to resume uranium enrichment in months according to International atomic energy agency the United nations nuclear watchdog.  Apparently, IAEA agrees with Pentagon initial assessment.  Longer peace can only be achieved from a negotiated agreement backed by inspections.  The pen is mightier than the sword.  In hindsight, huge blunder for stupid Trump to abandon Iran nuclear deal the most significant international peace deal in a decade.
    You can't make this up....an_roll_laugh

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