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Took half my position at -165. I agree with Van that lots can happen between now and then, but my gut says it's more likely something on Trump's side that happens to send this thing back to the -300 range. His news conference today was so unhinged that I wonder how he'll hold up emotionally under the onslaught that's heading his way. He takes things very personally and that isn't attractive in a presidential aspirant. He looked pretty crazy. Add that to the math and this is a very attractive bet. BTW this thread is not so different from the Obama-Romney thread of 4 years ago. Emotions got out of control on Covers and wishful thinking ruled the day (remember "unskewed" polling?). Once the Dems coalesce behind Clinton, she should show a significant advantage over Trump (8% I'm guessing). That will change the betting odds considerably. Maybe we see better numbers after the GOP convention but I don't know. Of course, Trump has a chance to win. That's why it's called gambling, but I think Van's 10-1 shot is about right.

This sounds pretty well thought out and you're getting a good price 
 
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Clinton now at -200 after the Hillary takedown on 6/2.
 
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Is this it? What happened to covers.... I have two bet's on the Republican VP - Marco Rubio +1200 and Newt Gingrich +3000. Marco Rubio because as we all know Florida is a huge swing state and he is going to need the Hispanic vote and Newt Gingrich because Trump estimates he needs 1 billion in funding. Most of the Republican Party's wealthiest contributor's (Koch brother's and other's) are focusing on the smaller election's (senate and house nominations) and are not going to be contributing $$$ to the presidency. Rumor has it Sheldon Adelson would be willing to give north of $100 million to the Trump campaign -- in 2012 Adelson was a major benefactor of Newt. Newt would be adding some legitimacy + much needed $$$'s.

Good luck Vanzack! I have Hillary at -150 earlier this year.

I don't believe this for a moment
 
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but if you are patient you can have HRC at -150 and then at +150

patience....
 
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In the hours after the FBI report is made public I think you will have a shot at HRC +1000 before she is taken off the board
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

In the hours after the FBI report is made public I think you will have a shot at HRC +1000 before she is taken off the board

Yup yup. That's why Demos trying to capitalize now on Trump U case. Bernie will get destroyed (tho he has a progressive following that's gaining momentum). Indictment coming--I trust our fabled institutions to do this.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:


Yup yup. That's why Demos trying to capitalize now on Trump U case. Bernie will get destroyed (tho he has a progressive following that's gaining momentum). Indictment coming--I trust our fabled institutions to do this.

 

It's pretty asinine for the GOP or any GOP supporter to desire an indictment before the convention.

 

If that happens, clearly Hillary's delegates would have to jump ship and nominate Bernie.

And there isn't a single poll that has Trump beating Bernie. Not one.

You'd be sealing your own fate if it happened.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

 

It's pretty asinine for the GOP or any GOP supporter to desire an indictment before the convention.

 

If that happens, clearly Hillary's delegates would have to jump ship and nominate Bernie.

And there isn't a single poll that has Trump beating Bernie. Not one.

You'd be sealing your own fate if it happened.


You could be correct... the polls support that.

I just don't believe the polls are so accurate and I don't think that our electorate will actually elect a confirmed socialist.  But I could be wrong, I was pretty sure Obama would not be elected... 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Skipster:

Clinton now at -200 after the Hillary takedown on 6/2.


now -220. the speech definitely effected the betting markets. for the short term at least.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:

Yup yup. That's why Demos trying to capitalize now on Trump U case. Bernie will get destroyed (tho he has a progressive following that's gaining momentum). Indictment coming--I trust our fabled institutions to do this.

 
It's pretty asinine for the GOP or any GOP supporter to desire an indictment before the convention.
 
If that happens, clearly Hillary's delegates would have to jump ship and nominate Bernie.
And there isn't a single poll that has Trump beating Bernie. Not one.
You'd be sealing your own fate if it happened.

Can't see a socialist beating Trump. Can't say I've seen a poll. Only probability index has Trump 90% to beat Bernie. "Sealing my own fate"? My god how melodramatic!
 
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now -220. the speech definitely effected the betting markets. for the short term at least.


now -250 in what had to be the most inept week of presidential campaigning in the history of the republic. -300 soon?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

Im still on the sidelines.  Waiting for Rep convention.  Then I will be betting Clinton.

GL all.



van:
Much respect for your analytical and thorough approach to these opportunities. Any thoughts you can share as to the odds you see for a Hillary indictment ? If she is indicted, do you think she'd try to stay in the race ? Thanks very much.
 
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now -250 in what had to be the most inept week of presidential campaigning in the history of the republic. -300 soon?


off the board at Sportsbook.

-290 at BetOnline

-340 at Bovada

what a week for Clinton.
 
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Posted: #164
Quote Originally Posted by Skipster:



off the board at Sportsbook.

-290 at BetOnline

-340 at Bovada

what a week for Clinton.

Hillary's odds rose right after her San Diego speech on US foreign policies, and jumped even more after Trump's damage remark against that "Mexican judge". 

The odds could leap to -320 or even higher after tonight's Democratic primaries. 


 
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Hillary's odds rose right after her San Diego speech on US foreign policies, and jumped even more after Trump's damage remark against that "Mexican judge". 

The odds could leap to -320 or even higher after tonight's Democratic primaries. 





Hey, buddy! How the heck are you? Liking my -165. At least for now. Maybe take another bite after the GOP convention unless it's too expensive. Trump coming apart in the meantime.
 
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Hey, buddy! How the heck are you? Liking my -165. At least for now. Maybe take another bite after the GOP convention unless it's too expensive. Trump coming apart in the meantime.


At 80%, after grabbing 4 out of 6 Democratic primaries tonight, HRC has reached the highest chance of winning US presidency in the Political Prediction Market as far as i have followed it. Her odds of winning the Presidency could trend to -350 or so until the GOP convection where it could drop down a bit, but i doubt it will reach -165 again. GL buddy! 
 
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At 80%, after grabbing 4 out of 6 Democratic primaries tonight, HRC has reached the highest chance of winning US presidency in the Political Prediction Market as far as i have followed it. Her odds of winning the Presidency could trend to -350 or so until the GOP convection where it could drop down a bit, but i doubt it will reach -165 again. GL buddy! 


Trump had the worst week of any candidate since the Dukakis tank incident. maybe since the dan quayle/lloyd benson debate. let's see what the polls do. could go to -400
 
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Posted: #168
Judging by these tweets, you clinton backers are feeling pretty giddy.
 
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This is how the rest of the election will go , is it not? "Did you hear what Trump just said?"" Clinton reacts. Trump just tweeted something inflammatory again" Clinton reacts. Clinton machine in full force with over 1000 campaign advisors, approaching a billion dollars in pledges from PACS, and insiders from corporate sponsors and Wall Street.

Trump probably mistakenly advised that his off the cuff remarks that delight small audiences of friends will NOT go over as well to the general public. Trump is right there at Mitt Romney's numbers in almost every state--not good despite the record numbers he achieved. It does look like Georgia will stay Republican, but there is a lot of work to do to win over Bernie voters who dislike Clinton more than any other voter bloc.

CLINTON IS NOT A PROGRESSIVE. She is a "war monger" connected to Wall Street, and hiding information from the state Dept and FBI--and Pres Obama is controlling the FBI to withald until after the election. This is NOT an "OPEN, PROGRESSIVE" government Obama promised with so much "HOPE."

Remains to be seen if Trump can get through an "America First" agenda, in times when the tide is globalist and borderless.



 
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Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:

Judging by these tweets, you clinton backers are feeling pretty giddy.

don't give a sh** about your politics. I'm a gambler. this is a gambling website. trump is a rank amateur and has very little chance of winning against the pros. The price was (and still is IMO) very cheap.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Skipster:


don't give a sh** about your politics. I'm a gambler. this is a gambling website. trump is a rank amateur and has very little chance of winning against the pros. The price was (and still is IMO) very cheap.


I agree that this is, and should be, about gambling. That means VALUE. For instance, the Cleveland NBA series line before the series began was at +185. They are now at +600. Why ? All GS has done is hold serve-----home court victories. Do I think the Cavaliers win it all ? Probably not. But what is the right price ? I think that 6-1 is generous on the Cavaliers. What price would you take on Trump to see it as good value ?
 
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I agree that this is, and should be, about gambling. That means VALUE. For instance, the Cleveland NBA series line before the series began was at +185. They are now at +600. Why ? All GS has done is hold serve-----home court victories. Do I think the Cavaliers win it all ? Probably not. But what is the right price ? I think that 6-1 is generous on the Cavaliers. What price would you take on Trump to see it as good value ?

Kind of waiting to see some polls after the last week. think it goes higher than -300 in the short term certainly. might coalesce after the GOP convention as Van said. If it gets to -800, it might be worth a look.


 
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Kind of waiting to see some polls after the last week. think it goes higher than -300 in the short term certainly. might coalesce after the GOP convention as Van said. If it gets to -800, it might be worth a look.




Appreciate the reply.

Currently, both my books are at 220/180, although interestingly enough, they no longer offer Clinton versus Trump. They both offer only Democrat versus Republican. I just wonder whether this is hedging the possibility of an indictment. 
 
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Appreciate the reply.

Currently, both my books are at 220/180, although interestingly enough, they no longer offer Clinton versus Trump. They both offer only Democrat versus Republican. I just wonder whether this is hedging the possibility of an indictment. 

Odds of a dem administration indicting the dem nominee? 
 
 
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Odds of a dem administration indicting the dem nominee? 


i would say the odds of a dem administration indicting the dem nominee probably aren't much, if any, different from a republican administration doing it. 
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