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    DogbiteWilliams
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2016 - 2:38 PM ET #201

    Dozens of GOP delegates have launched a new effort to dump Trump:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dozens-of-gop-delegates-launch-new-push-to-halt-donald-trump/2016/06/17/e8dcf74e-3491-11e6-8758-d58e76e11b12_story.html

    The delegates are angered by Trump’s recent comments on gun control, his racial attacks on a federal judge and his sinking poll numbers. They are convinced that Trump is an insufficiently conservative candidate and believe they will find enough like-minded Republicans within the next month to change party rules and allow delegates to vote for whomever they want, regardless of who won their state caucus or primary.
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    Dozens of GOP delegates have launched a new effort to dump Trump:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dozens-of-gop-delegates-launch-new-push-to-halt-donald-trump/2016/06/17/e8dcf74e-3491-11e6-8758-d58e76e11b12_story.html

    The delegates are angered by Trump’s recent comments on gun control, his racial attacks on a federal judge and his sinking poll numbers. They are convinced that Trump is an insufficiently conservative candidate and believe they will find enough like-minded Republicans within the next month to change party rules and allow delegates to vote for whomever they want, regardless of who won their state caucus or primary.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2016 - 2:43 PM ET #202

    Trump declared no income in 1984, a year in which he constantly bragged to the press about how much cash he was raking in:

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/17/donald-trump-bragged-to-press-he-made-a-fortune-in-1984-told-the-irs-it-was-zero.html?via=twitter_page

    He is either a lying sack of shxt (Politifact certainly bolsters that viewpoint) or this provides more evidence that the IRS tax code is riddled with loopholes that let the filthy rich get away with murder and let the middle class bear the burden.
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    Trump declared no income in 1984, a year in which he constantly bragged to the press about how much cash he was raking in:

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/17/donald-trump-bragged-to-press-he-made-a-fortune-in-1984-told-the-irs-it-was-zero.html?via=twitter_page

    He is either a lying sack of shxt (Politifact certainly bolsters that viewpoint) or this provides more evidence that the IRS tax code is riddled with loopholes that let the filthy rich get away with murder and let the middle class bear the burden.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2016 - 2:45 PM ET #203

    Sanders still refuses to endorse HRC:

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/17/sanders-still-wont-endorse-clinton/

    His reticence hurts his leverage.
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    Sanders still refuses to endorse HRC:

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/17/sanders-still-wont-endorse-clinton/

    His reticence hurts his leverage.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2016 - 2:48 PM ET #204

    Trump's poll ratings are historically bad:

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/17/trumps-poll-ratings-are-historically-bad/
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    Trump's poll ratings are historically bad:

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/17/trumps-poll-ratings-are-historically-bad/
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2016 - 2:52 PM ET #205

    Election forecaster doesn't believe his own model which predicts a GOP win by 2%.

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/17/election-forecaster-doesnt-believe-his-own-model/

    His model is based on the assumption that both parties would nominate mainstream candidates that would unite their parties.

    Not this year.
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    Election forecaster doesn't believe his own model which predicts a GOP win by 2%.

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/17/election-forecaster-doesnt-believe-his-own-model/

    His model is based on the assumption that both parties would nominate mainstream candidates that would unite their parties.

    Not this year.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2016 - 2:59 PM ET #206

    Florida Republican strategist Rick Wilson, a longtime critic of Trump, laughed before rattling off a list of what he sees as the failures of the GOP standard-bearer.

    “Look, I mean, what could be going wrong with Donald Trump? ... He is being out-raised by every possible fundraising metric. He is losing in the national polling averages. He is being crushed in the swing-state polls. He is being devastated in the polls in the states that he claims he is going to put into play, such as California, New Jersey and New York. ... And he is increasingly erratic.”

    Wilson added, “This is unlike an ordinary campaign where you focus on the top of the ticket. This year, instead of good things rolling down the hill, it’s like these candidates are at the bottom of a chute in a butcher’s shop.

    “They’re going to be covered in gore. It’s horrifying.”

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/283688-trumps-campaign-hits-a-wall

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    Florida Republican strategist Rick Wilson, a longtime critic of Trump, laughed before rattling off a list of what he sees as the failures of the GOP standard-bearer.

    “Look, I mean, what could be going wrong with Donald Trump? ... He is being out-raised by every possible fundraising metric. He is losing in the national polling averages. He is being crushed in the swing-state polls. He is being devastated in the polls in the states that he claims he is going to put into play, such as California, New Jersey and New York. ... And he is increasingly erratic.”

    Wilson added, “This is unlike an ordinary campaign where you focus on the top of the ticket. This year, instead of good things rolling down the hill, it’s like these candidates are at the bottom of a chute in a butcher’s shop.

    “They’re going to be covered in gore. It’s horrifying.”

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/283688-trumps-campaign-hits-a-wall

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2016 - 3:03 PM ET #207

    Despite all of Trump's hatemongering and bullshxt, he only trails HRC by 3% in Virginia:

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/17/clinton-holds-small-lead-in-virginia/

    HRC ain't exactly Miss Congeniality.
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    Despite all of Trump's hatemongering and bullshxt, he only trails HRC by 3% in Virginia:

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/17/clinton-holds-small-lead-in-virginia/

    HRC ain't exactly Miss Congeniality.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2016 - 3:06 PM ET #208

    So dog bite,

    Are betting or did you put down a bet?

    I took Hillary at -225 and wanted to put more at sub -200 but it never got there in my book. 

    What was your bet/s?
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    So dog bite,

    Are betting or did you put down a bet?

    I took Hillary at -225 and wanted to put more at sub -200 but it never got there in my book. 

    What was your bet/s?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2016 - 12:08 AM ET #209

    I will not place any political wagers, dl36.
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    I will not place any political wagers, dl36.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2016 - 11:12 PM ET #210

    Cool, thank you for a civil and coherent response.  I have no idea why certain people struggle so badly with that
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    Cool, thank you for a civil and coherent response.  I have no idea why certain people struggle so badly with that
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2016 - 11:08 PM ET #211

    the amateur has 1.3 million in the bank. that million with an "m." I'm thinking he should lay it on Clinton.


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    the amateur has 1.3 million in the bank. that million with an "m." I'm thinking he should lay it on Clinton.


     
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    Posted: Jun. 21, 2016 - 2:38 PM ET #212

    Quote Originally Posted by Skipster:

    the amateur has 1.3 million in the bank. that million with an "m." I'm thinking he should lay it on Clinton.
    Brilliant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skipster:

    the amateur has 1.3 million in the bank. that million with an "m." I'm thinking he should lay it on Clinton.
    Brilliant.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 21, 2016 - 2:43 PM ET #213

    Hundreds of delegates now support ousting Trump:

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/21/hundreds-of-delegates-now-support-ousting-trump/

    It is hard to beat somebody with nobody, and it is dangerous to upset the party's grass-roots base by publicly rejecting their candidate.

    As of now the ouster is unlikely to succeed.  If Trump continues to make horrendous comments that worsen his plunging poll numbers even more, by the time the convention actually convenes the ouster group could be much larger.
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    Hundreds of delegates now support ousting Trump:

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/21/hundreds-of-delegates-now-support-ousting-trump/

    It is hard to beat somebody with nobody, and it is dangerous to upset the party's grass-roots base by publicly rejecting their candidate.

    As of now the ouster is unlikely to succeed.  If Trump continues to make horrendous comments that worsen his plunging poll numbers even more, by the time the convention actually convenes the ouster group could be much larger.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 21, 2016 - 2:47 PM ET #214

    Trump shouldn't bet on changing the electoral map:

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/21/trump-shouldnt-bet-on-changing-the-electoral-map/

    His actual performance will fall far short of what his asinine ego and wretched judgment claim.
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    Trump shouldn't bet on changing the electoral map:

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/21/trump-shouldnt-bet-on-changing-the-electoral-map/

    His actual performance will fall far short of what his asinine ego and wretched judgment claim.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 21, 2016 - 2:51 PM ET #215

    This helps explain why Trump loves to keep Christie around:

    "Everybody loves a fat guy. People will watch if you have a funny fat guy around. Trust me, it’s good for ratings."

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/21/he-loves-to-keep-a-fat-guy-around/
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    This helps explain why Trump loves to keep Christie around:

    "Everybody loves a fat guy. People will watch if you have a funny fat guy around. Trust me, it’s good for ratings."

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/21/he-loves-to-keep-a-fat-guy-around/
     
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    Posted: Jun. 21, 2016 - 3:05 PM ET #216

    Why hijack this thread?

    Make your on thread about trump and Christie.  I promise like all threads I will reply with a comment about the topic.

    This thread is about wagering and you have already explained that you aren't going to wager.

    Honestly it is not that I am pro-trump or GOP or on any side for that matter.  As a non-partisan independent I call out all sides and all poster regardless of view or affiliation.  

    Just being fair 
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    Why hijack this thread?

    Make your on thread about trump and Christie.  I promise like all threads I will reply with a comment about the topic.

    This thread is about wagering and you have already explained that you aren't going to wager.

    Honestly it is not that I am pro-trump or GOP or on any side for that matter.  As a non-partisan independent I call out all sides and all poster regardless of view or affiliation.  

    Just being fair 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 21, 2016 - 3:06 PM ET #217

    My comment #214 might be inaccurate.  About half of Republican voters now want to dump Trump:

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/21/a-bare-majority-still-want-trump-nominated/

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    My comment #214 might be inaccurate.  About half of Republican voters now want to dump Trump:

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/21/a-bare-majority-still-want-trump-nominated/

     
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    Posted: Jun. 21, 2016 - 3:13 PM ET #218

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Why hijack this thread?

    Make your on thread about trump and Christie.  I promise like all threads I will reply with a comment about the topic.

    This thread is about wagering and you have already explained that you aren't going to wager.

    Honestly it is not that I am pro-trump or GOP or on any side for that matter.  As a non-partisan independent I call out all sides and all poster regardless of view or affiliation.  

    Just being fair 
    Most of my posts on this topic are about Trump's unsuitability for the Presidency.  Millions of people will continue to gather this same information and this helps explain why Trump's poll numbers continue to decline.

    This also explains why the HRC betting line continues to rise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Why hijack this thread?

    Make your on thread about trump and Christie.  I promise like all threads I will reply with a comment about the topic.

    This thread is about wagering and you have already explained that you aren't going to wager.

    Honestly it is not that I am pro-trump or GOP or on any side for that matter.  As a non-partisan independent I call out all sides and all poster regardless of view or affiliation.  

    Just being fair 
    Most of my posts on this topic are about Trump's unsuitability for the Presidency.  Millions of people will continue to gather this same information and this helps explain why Trump's poll numbers continue to decline.

    This also explains why the HRC betting line continues to rise.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2016 - 11:24 PM ET #219

    I wonder at what point is the Hillary price too high?
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    I wonder at what point is the Hillary price too high?
     
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    Well - I am pretty sure my hesitancy to place this wager will keep me from getting in.

    I just wont lay the -320ish right now.  If the election were tomorrow?  Yes.  But too much can happen in the months ahead.

    I still maintain that because of the math with the electoral college Trump has little chance.

    Stay posted....

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    Well - I am pretty sure my hesitancy to place this wager will keep me from getting in.

    I just wont lay the -320ish right now.  If the election were tomorrow?  Yes.  But too much can happen in the months ahead.

    I still maintain that because of the math with the electoral college Trump has little chance.

    Stay posted....

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2016 - 1:32 PM ET #221

    Quote Originally Posted by Skipster:



    Took half my position at -165. I agree with Van that lots can happen between now and then, but my gut says it's more likely something on Trump's side that happens to send this thing back to the -300 range. His news conference today was so unhinged that I wonder how he'll hold up emotionally under the onslaught that's heading his way. He takes things very personally and that isn't attractive in a presidential aspirant. He looked pretty crazy. Add that to the math and this is a very attractive bet. BTW this thread is not so different from the Obama-Romney thread of 4 years ago. Emotions got out of control on Covers and wishful thinking ruled the day (remember "unskewed" polling?). Once the Dems coalesce behind Clinton, she should show a significant advantage over Trump (8% I'm guessing). That will change the betting odds considerably. Maybe we see better numbers after the GOP convention but I don't know. Of course, Trump has a chance to win. That's why it's called gambling, but I think Van's 10-1 shot is about right.

    Thats crystal ball stuff right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skipster:



    Took half my position at -165. I agree with Van that lots can happen between now and then, but my gut says it's more likely something on Trump's side that happens to send this thing back to the -300 range. His news conference today was so unhinged that I wonder how he'll hold up emotionally under the onslaught that's heading his way. He takes things very personally and that isn't attractive in a presidential aspirant. He looked pretty crazy. Add that to the math and this is a very attractive bet. BTW this thread is not so different from the Obama-Romney thread of 4 years ago. Emotions got out of control on Covers and wishful thinking ruled the day (remember "unskewed" polling?). Once the Dems coalesce behind Clinton, she should show a significant advantage over Trump (8% I'm guessing). That will change the betting odds considerably. Maybe we see better numbers after the GOP convention but I don't know. Of course, Trump has a chance to win. That's why it's called gambling, but I think Van's 10-1 shot is about right.

    Thats crystal ball stuff right there.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2016 - 3:05 PM ET #222

    Agreed... In the midst of so much rhetoric and propaganda as well as manufactured lies, childish insults and name calling in this forum, jewels like this get lost.

    Interesting too that he mentioned the Obama is a log thread from year ago and how basically there are the same insane emotional reaction from basically the same people.

    Vanzack,  i got in at -225... Was hoping my line would have dropped below -200 but didn't.  What is your thoughts moving forward?  No sense in dropping money on -300 at those odds?
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    Agreed... In the midst of so much rhetoric and propaganda as well as manufactured lies, childish insults and name calling in this forum, jewels like this get lost.

    Interesting too that he mentioned the Obama is a log thread from year ago and how basically there are the same insane emotional reaction from basically the same people.

    Vanzack,  i got in at -225... Was hoping my line would have dropped below -200 but didn't.  What is your thoughts moving forward?  No sense in dropping money on -300 at those odds?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2016 - 3:27 PM ET #223

    Trump is in a deep hole:

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/27/trump-is-in-a-deep-hole/

    “Live by the polls, die by the polls, kill the polls that give you bad news. As Donald Trump fights polling he views as unfair, the top line numbers in the new ABC News/Washington Post poll are the least of Trump’s problems. The poll shows that two-thirds of voters see Trump as biased against women and minorities, and two-thirds think his comments about the judge in the Trump University case were racist. Sixty-four percent see him as unqualified for the presidency, and 70 percent say the idea of Trump as president gives them anxiety.”
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    Trump is in a deep hole:

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/27/trump-is-in-a-deep-hole/

    “Live by the polls, die by the polls, kill the polls that give you bad news. As Donald Trump fights polling he views as unfair, the top line numbers in the new ABC News/Washington Post poll are the least of Trump’s problems. The poll shows that two-thirds of voters see Trump as biased against women and minorities, and two-thirds think his comments about the judge in the Trump University case were racist. Sixty-four percent see him as unqualified for the presidency, and 70 percent say the idea of Trump as president gives them anxiety.”
     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2016 - 4:10 PM ET #224

    Only 29 out of 1,400 Romney donors have given money to Trump.

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/27/romney-donors-staying-out-of-the-race/

    This certainly makes it hard to narrow the fundraising gap with HRC.
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    Only 29 out of 1,400 Romney donors have given money to Trump.

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/27/romney-donors-staying-out-of-the-race/

    This certainly makes it hard to narrow the fundraising gap with HRC.
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2016 - 10:45 AM ET #225

    ^ these smart f____ donors know trump is a clown.

    thats why. for the rest of ya repubs wake up
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    ^ these smart f____ donors know trump is a clown.

    thats why. for the rest of ya repubs wake up
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