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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2026 - 2:53 AM ET #201

    Somalia is also one of the poorest nations on earth and their civil war left some having it all and some having nothing - “brown” people don’t commit more fraud because they are brown or their culture - that is a ridiculous take - but the world has distributed wealth so it is concentrated on the white race - so less white people has an incentive to commit fraud (if you want to question that hypothesis - you could try taking your American white upbringing to live in Somalia - I will gurantee you will have committed your first fraud case within a year if the chance comes up - and that is a bet) !

     

    You should think it had more influence how you treat minorities and how much income divide there is in a country rather than what culture raised them - but if you really feel in the mood to make this a race thing you don’t have to look further than the white people Trump parsons - to find people that has defraud your system for way more than this case 

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    Somalia is also one of the poorest nations on earth and their civil war left some having it all and some having nothing - “brown” people don’t commit more fraud because they are brown or their culture - that is a ridiculous take - but the world has distributed wealth so it is concentrated on the white race - so less white people has an incentive to commit fraud (if you want to question that hypothesis - you could try taking your American white upbringing to live in Somalia - I will gurantee you will have committed your first fraud case within a year if the chance comes up - and that is a bet) !

     

    You should think it had more influence how you treat minorities and how much income divide there is in a country rather than what culture raised them - but if you really feel in the mood to make this a race thing you don’t have to look further than the white people Trump parsons - to find people that has defraud your system for way more than this case 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2026 - 4:21 AM ET #202

    But yeah in general you would do a lot of good looking at Scandinavia trying to implement what we do - we are basically just the unreligious (and do I dare saying it “smart”) version of you - that don’t need a 2000 year old propaganda book telling us how to live life 

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    But yeah in general you would do a lot of good looking at Scandinavia trying to implement what we do - we are basically just the unreligious (and do I dare saying it “smart”) version of you - that don’t need a 2000 year old propaganda book telling us how to live life 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2026 - 5:03 AM ET #203

    And it is so fun when Americans think they have the ideas how to solve every problem in the world (esp. Europe) - it would be like a toddler advising his grandparents how to live life - every indicator says you will not be a super power in the next 100 years  - which would make you one of the shortest running super powers in the world history - Europe has universities that are 400 years older than your nation 

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    And it is so fun when Americans think they have the ideas how to solve every problem in the world (esp. Europe) - it would be like a toddler advising his grandparents how to live life - every indicator says you will not be a super power in the next 100 years  - which would make you one of the shortest running super powers in the world history - Europe has universities that are 400 years older than your nation 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2026 - 7:01 AM ET #204

    Fraud allegations are promoted by Nick Shirley's video which has been debunked by CNN, CBS news and others.  From disinformation playbook, he uses selective editing, implied guilt by framing, misleading interviews and appeals to emotion and biases.

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    Fraud allegations are promoted by Nick Shirley's video which has been debunked by CNN, CBS news and others.  From disinformation playbook, he uses selective editing, implied guilt by framing, misleading interviews and appeals to emotion and biases.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2026 - 8:25 AM ET #205

    It's amazing. In light of all the fraud in Minn., CNN chose to try to dispute the findings of this Shirley fellow rather than report on the fraud itself. The bimbo they sent out ends up embarrassing herself, & the few CNN viewers are left asking "wtf was your point?" an_roll_laugh

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    It's amazing. In light of all the fraud in Minn., CNN chose to try to dispute the findings of this Shirley fellow rather than report on the fraud itself. The bimbo they sent out ends up embarrassing herself, & the few CNN viewers are left asking "wtf was your point?" an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2026 - 9:12 AM ET #206

    Am I misinformed that this case had teeth and has been prosecuted already?  Is there something new going on?

    Just a clown... doing clown things
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    Am I misinformed that this case had teeth and has been prosecuted already?  Is there something new going on?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2026 - 9:47 AM ET #207

    As of 2016 in Denmark the average wage before taxes for Somali men age 20-59 is $32,000 US dollars. Retirement income in Denmark for Somali's average $20,000 US dollars.

    In the United States the average wage of Somali immigrants is $43,600 US dollars. Taxes are far less and there is no 25% Value Added Tax. They have it much better here. Too bad so many bad actors were allowed to scam for so long. It hurts all the good people too. 

     

     

    And the words of a lawyer who represented Somali defendants in a previous fraud case; Mr. Pacyga, who also has represented other defendants in the fraud cases, said that some involved became convinced that state agencies were tolerating, if not tacitly allowing, the fraud. There is the problem. And now reports of daycares politically donating $35 million. IF true, wow!

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    As of 2016 in Denmark the average wage before taxes for Somali men age 20-59 is $32,000 US dollars. Retirement income in Denmark for Somali's average $20,000 US dollars.

    In the United States the average wage of Somali immigrants is $43,600 US dollars. Taxes are far less and there is no 25% Value Added Tax. They have it much better here. Too bad so many bad actors were allowed to scam for so long. It hurts all the good people too. 

     

     

    And the words of a lawyer who represented Somali defendants in a previous fraud case; Mr. Pacyga, who also has represented other defendants in the fraud cases, said that some involved became convinced that state agencies were tolerating, if not tacitly allowing, the fraud. There is the problem. And now reports of daycares politically donating $35 million. IF true, wow!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2026 - 9:50 AM ET #208

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Fraud allegations are promoted by Nick Shirley's video which has been debunked by CNN, CBS news and others.  From disinformation playbook, he uses selective editing, implied guilt by framing, misleading interviews and appeals to emotion and biases.

    Take a look at this. Attacking the author but NEVER SHOWING PROOF themselves that everything is legit. Nothing has been debunked, in fact more and more come to light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Fraud allegations are promoted by Nick Shirley's video which has been debunked by CNN, CBS news and others.  From disinformation playbook, he uses selective editing, implied guilt by framing, misleading interviews and appeals to emotion and biases.

    Take a look at this. Attacking the author but NEVER SHOWING PROOF themselves that everything is legit. Nothing has been debunked, in fact more and more come to light.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2026 - 12:13 PM ET #209

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    As of 2016 in Denmark the average wage before taxes for Somali men age 20-59 is $32,000 US dollars. Retirement income in Denmark for Somali's average $20,000 US dollars. In the United States the average wage of Somali immigrants is $43,600 US dollars. Taxes are far less and there is no 25% Value Added Tax. They have it much better here. Too bad so many bad actors were allowed to scam for so long. It hurts all the good people too.      And the words of a lawyer who represented Somali defendants in a previous fraud case; Mr. Pacyga, who also has represented other defendants in the fraud cases, said that some involved became convinced that state agencies were tolerating, if not tacitly allowing, the fraud. There is the problem. And now reports of daycares politically donating $35 million. IF true, wow!

     

     

    I have no interest looking into your numbers because I know the truth - but try checking how much more you work per year than us before you compare yearly salaries and we also get 8 % in vacation payment yearly and 12,5 % pension - and that again is in the worst job situation -  an_cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    As of 2016 in Denmark the average wage before taxes for Somali men age 20-59 is $32,000 US dollars. Retirement income in Denmark for Somali's average $20,000 US dollars. In the United States the average wage of Somali immigrants is $43,600 US dollars. Taxes are far less and there is no 25% Value Added Tax. They have it much better here. Too bad so many bad actors were allowed to scam for so long. It hurts all the good people too.      And the words of a lawyer who represented Somali defendants in a previous fraud case; Mr. Pacyga, who also has represented other defendants in the fraud cases, said that some involved became convinced that state agencies were tolerating, if not tacitly allowing, the fraud. There is the problem. And now reports of daycares politically donating $35 million. IF true, wow!

     

     

    I have no interest looking into your numbers because I know the truth - but try checking how much more you work per year than us before you compare yearly salaries and we also get 8 % in vacation payment yearly and 12,5 % pension - and that again is in the worst job situation -  an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2026 - 12:20 PM ET #210

    And no you don’t have VAT but you have tariffs and sales taxes - we have neither - you also pay for school - we get paid to go to school - you also pay to go to the hospital - we don’t etc etc.

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    And no you don’t have VAT but you have tariffs and sales taxes - we have neither - you also pay for school - we get paid to go to school - you also pay to go to the hospital - we don’t etc etc.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2026 - 12:38 PM ET #211

    I see The Daily Beast doing a hit job on Shirley. Funny they don't go to Minneapolis ( or Columbus OH, Seattle WA) and check it out themselves. 

    Like I said, exposing themselves, who and what they really are. an_popcorn

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    I see The Daily Beast doing a hit job on Shirley. Funny they don't go to Minneapolis ( or Columbus OH, Seattle WA) and check it out themselves. 

    Like I said, exposing themselves, who and what they really are. an_popcorn

     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2026 - 12:39 PM ET #212

    But getting back on the point as stated earlier even we have plenty of scams and fraud - most of them are committed by white men in habit - so we at least have that in common an_cheers

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    But getting back on the point as stated earlier even we have plenty of scams and fraud - most of them are committed by white men in habit - so we at least have that in common an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2026 - 1:17 PM ET #213

    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    Am I misinformed that this case had teeth and has been prosecuted already?  Is there something new going on?

    Nick Shirley has a history of manufacturing fake news.  Childcare places that he visited have already been investigated and cleared of wrongdoing in previous years.  Now Trump administration is freezing childcare funds to all states based on dubious claims of widespread fraud.  Governor Waltz accuses Trump of politicizing issue to advance assault on social safety net.  While Minnesota has been fighting fraud, Trump has been using pardon power to let fraudsters get out of jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko:

    Am I misinformed that this case had teeth and has been prosecuted already?  Is there something new going on?

    Nick Shirley has a history of manufacturing fake news.  Childcare places that he visited have already been investigated and cleared of wrongdoing in previous years.  Now Trump administration is freezing childcare funds to all states based on dubious claims of widespread fraud.  Governor Waltz accuses Trump of politicizing issue to advance assault on social safety net.  While Minnesota has been fighting fraud, Trump has been using pardon power to let fraudsters get out of jail.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2026 - 1:33 PM ET #214

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    I see The Daily Beast doing a hit job on Shirley. Funny they don't go to Minneapolis ( or Columbus OH, Seattle WA) and check it out themselves.  Like I said, exposing themselves, who and what they really are.

    Ad hominem attacks have always been the Liberal Media's play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    I see The Daily Beast doing a hit job on Shirley. Funny they don't go to Minneapolis ( or Columbus OH, Seattle WA) and check it out themselves.  Like I said, exposing themselves, who and what they really are.

    Ad hominem attacks have always been the Liberal Media's play.

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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2026 - 2:59 PM ET #215

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko: Am I misinformed that this case had teeth and has been prosecuted already?  Is there something new going on? Nick Shirley has a history of manufacturing fake news.  Childcare places that he visited have already been investigated and cleared of wrongdoing in previous years.  Now Trump administration is freezing childcare funds to all states based on dubious claims of widespread fraud.  Governor Waltz accuses Trump of politicizing issue to advance assault on social safety net.  While Minnesota has been fighting fraud, Trump has been using pardon power to let fraudsters get out of jail.

    Curious to see. Let's see how this post ages. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko: Am I misinformed that this case had teeth and has been prosecuted already?  Is there something new going on? Nick Shirley has a history of manufacturing fake news.  Childcare places that he visited have already been investigated and cleared of wrongdoing in previous years.  Now Trump administration is freezing childcare funds to all states based on dubious claims of widespread fraud.  Governor Waltz accuses Trump of politicizing issue to advance assault on social safety net.  While Minnesota has been fighting fraud, Trump has been using pardon power to let fraudsters get out of jail.

    Curious to see. Let's see how this post ages. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2026 - 3:13 PM ET #216

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    But getting back on the point as stated earlier even we have plenty of scams and fraud - most of them are committed by white men in habit - so we at least have that in common

    What's color got to do with it?

    I see Global Anti Scam Alliance says people in Denmark lost $2.82 billion in the last 12 months. International scammers. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    But getting back on the point as stated earlier even we have plenty of scams and fraud - most of them are committed by white men in habit - so we at least have that in common

    What's color got to do with it?

    I see Global Anti Scam Alliance says people in Denmark lost $2.82 billion in the last 12 months. International scammers. 

     
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    Most digital scams originate from countries like Nigeria, India, China, and Brazil, which are known for various types of fraudulent activities, including phishing, tech support scams, and investment fraud. These regions have become significant hubs for online scams due to their evolving tactics and large internet user bases.

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    Most digital scams originate from countries like Nigeria, India, China, and Brazil, which are known for various types of fraudulent activities, including phishing, tech support scams, and investment fraud. These regions have become significant hubs for online scams due to their evolving tactics and large internet user bases.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2026 - 5:30 PM ET #218

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    As of 2016 in Denmark the average wage before taxes for Somali men age 20-59 is $32,000 US dollars. Retirement income in Denmark for Somali's average $20,000 US dollars. In the United States the average wage of Somali immigrants is $43,600 US dollars. Taxes are far less and there is no 25% Value Added Tax. They have it much better here. Too bad so many bad actors were allowed to scam for so long. It hurts all the good people too.      And the words of a lawyer who represented Somali defendants in a previous fraud case; Mr. Pacyga, who also has represented other defendants in the fraud cases, said that some involved became convinced that state agencies were tolerating, if not tacitly allowing, the fraud. There is the problem. And now reports of daycares politically donating $35 million. IF true, wow!

    That report was not true, the $35 million is what Minneapolis daycares received from govt, not political donations. Seemed too crazy and Elon flagged the post with the correction. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    As of 2016 in Denmark the average wage before taxes for Somali men age 20-59 is $32,000 US dollars. Retirement income in Denmark for Somali's average $20,000 US dollars. In the United States the average wage of Somali immigrants is $43,600 US dollars. Taxes are far less and there is no 25% Value Added Tax. They have it much better here. Too bad so many bad actors were allowed to scam for so long. It hurts all the good people too.      And the words of a lawyer who represented Somali defendants in a previous fraud case; Mr. Pacyga, who also has represented other defendants in the fraud cases, said that some involved became convinced that state agencies were tolerating, if not tacitly allowing, the fraud. There is the problem. And now reports of daycares politically donating $35 million. IF true, wow!

    That report was not true, the $35 million is what Minneapolis daycares received from govt, not political donations. Seemed too crazy and Elon flagged the post with the correction. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2026 - 9:14 PM ET #219

    The highest amount from scam activities are conducted by bankers or people that understand to reck the system - like Elon Musk or some of the crypto bros - or Bernie Madoff etc. - our biggest was some German, UK and Danish bankers that cheated the taxing systems across all of Europe with fictitious stock losses (because you receive those back) 

     

    - most of the scams you don’t even get made aware of - and you are talking about scams cheating other people (I can conclude with you highlighting China etc.)  - I talk scams that target your government or your institutions 

    Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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    The highest amount from scam activities are conducted by bankers or people that understand to reck the system - like Elon Musk or some of the crypto bros - or Bernie Madoff etc. - our biggest was some German, UK and Danish bankers that cheated the taxing systems across all of Europe with fictitious stock losses (because you receive those back) 

     

    - most of the scams you don’t even get made aware of - and you are talking about scams cheating other people (I can conclude with you highlighting China etc.)  - I talk scams that target your government or your institutions 

     
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    And in this case he highlight them not wanting to open the door for a stranger to come in and video record a bunch of random children as the “smoking gun” - what do you have 1 school shooting a day or something like that ? And even not accounting for that - most people wouldn’t allow some random weirdo video recording their children 

    Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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    And in this case he highlight them not wanting to open the door for a stranger to come in and video record a bunch of random children as the “smoking gun” - what do you have 1 school shooting a day or something like that ? And even not accounting for that - most people wouldn’t allow some random weirdo video recording their children 

     
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    Btw dont believe everything you read online - try use your brain instead - that contains the ability to beat most computers ! Danish people are not scammed the most by foreigners - they are scammed by Danes operating abroad (so they don’t get caught)

     

    Danes don’t have English as their main language believe it or not - so we don’t really fall for an Indian person calling us up pretending to be a Danish police officer etc. that want our personal details and we are not incels to the same degree so we have way less that fall for romance scams - btw our banking system is way more secure than yours - you can’t access someone’s bank unless they give you a cryptated 6-digit code - that change every 15 seconds - and you have to approve access from your phone as well 

    Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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    Btw dont believe everything you read online - try use your brain instead - that contains the ability to beat most computers ! Danish people are not scammed the most by foreigners - they are scammed by Danes operating abroad (so they don’t get caught)

     

    Danes don’t have English as their main language believe it or not - so we don’t really fall for an Indian person calling us up pretending to be a Danish police officer etc. that want our personal details and we are not incels to the same degree so we have way less that fall for romance scams - btw our banking system is way more secure than yours - you can’t access someone’s bank unless they give you a cryptated 6-digit code - that change every 15 seconds - and you have to approve access from your phone as well 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    The highest amount from scam activities are conducted by bankers or people that understand to reck the system - like Elon Musk or some of the crypto bros - or Bernie Madoff etc. - our biggest was some German, UK and Danish bankers that cheated the taxing systems across all of Europe with fictitious stock losses (because you receive those back)    - most of the scams you don’t even get made aware of - and you are talking about scams cheating other people (I can conclude with you highlighting China etc.)  - I talk scams that target your government or your institutions

     

    LIKE SANJAY SHAH fixed it for ya.

    And I use my brain and leave out any superiority complex that would have me think only another white american could scam me. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    The highest amount from scam activities are conducted by bankers or people that understand to reck the system - like Elon Musk or some of the crypto bros - or Bernie Madoff etc. - our biggest was some German, UK and Danish bankers that cheated the taxing systems across all of Europe with fictitious stock losses (because you receive those back)    - most of the scams you don’t even get made aware of - and you are talking about scams cheating other people (I can conclude with you highlighting China etc.)  - I talk scams that target your government or your institutions

     

    LIKE SANJAY SHAH fixed it for ya.

    And I use my brain and leave out any superiority complex that would have me think only another white american could scam me. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13: The highest amount from scam activities are conducted by bankers or people that understand to reck the system - like Elon Musk or some of the crypto bros - or Bernie Madoff etc. - our biggest was some German, UK and Danish bankers that cheated the taxing systems across all of Europe with fictitious stock losses (because you receive those back)    - most of the scams you don’t even get made aware of - and you are talking about scams cheating other people (I can conclude with you highlighting China etc.)  - I talk scams that target your government or your institutions   LIKE SANJAY SHAH fixed it for ya. And I use my brain and leave out any superiority complex that would have me think only another white american could scam me.


    I had already mentioned him as he pretty much falls under the description "UK banker" - but thanks for highlighting you have absolutely no clue how much Elon Musk has fucked your system over - and most scammers in the Shah scam was white German bankers - which again just shows you google stuff - with no clue what is up and down an_clap

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13: The highest amount from scam activities are conducted by bankers or people that understand to reck the system - like Elon Musk or some of the crypto bros - or Bernie Madoff etc. - our biggest was some German, UK and Danish bankers that cheated the taxing systems across all of Europe with fictitious stock losses (because you receive those back)    - most of the scams you don’t even get made aware of - and you are talking about scams cheating other people (I can conclude with you highlighting China etc.)  - I talk scams that target your government or your institutions   LIKE SANJAY SHAH fixed it for ya. And I use my brain and leave out any superiority complex that would have me think only another white american could scam me.


    I had already mentioned him as he pretty much falls under the description "UK banker" - but thanks for highlighting you have absolutely no clue how much Elon Musk has fucked your system over - and most scammers in the Shah scam was white German bankers - which again just shows you google stuff - with no clue what is up and down an_clap

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko: Am I misinformed that this case had teeth and has been prosecuted already?  Is there something new going on? Nick Shirley has a history of manufacturing fake news.  Childcare places that he visited have already been investigated and cleared of wrongdoing in previous years.  Now Trump administration is freezing childcare funds to all states based on dubious claims of widespread fraud.  Governor Waltz accuses Trump of politicizing issue to advance assault on social safety net.  While Minnesota has been fighting fraud, Trump has been using pardon power to let fraudsters get out of jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by kagakuotoko: Am I misinformed that this case had teeth and has been prosecuted already?  Is there something new going on? Nick Shirley has a history of manufacturing fake news.  Childcare places that he visited have already been investigated and cleared of wrongdoing in previous years.  Now Trump administration is freezing childcare funds to all states based on dubious claims of widespread fraud.  Governor Waltz accuses Trump of politicizing issue to advance assault on social safety net.  While Minnesota has been fighting fraud, Trump has been using pardon power to let fraudsters get out of jail.
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    Looks like Walz is bowing out of his re-election bid.

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    Looks like Walz is bowing out of his re-election bid.

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