Get it right...I am blaming Trump for HOW he is going about this, yet you want to blanket generalize and categorize because it serves your partisan agenda. I do not think ther way Trump does most everything is respectful, appropriate and in keeping with the constitution and what this country is founded on. There have been illegals in this country for much longer than Biden, that blank check does not float for your dood, he is not above the law he is not the creator of the law he is to respect and uphold the law and he does a very poor job at doing that AND keeping balance and respect for society.
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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@THEMUGG
Get it right...I am blaming Trump for HOW he is going about this, yet you want to blanket generalize and categorize because it serves your partisan agenda. I do not think ther way Trump does most everything is respectful, appropriate and in keeping with the constitution and what this country is founded on. There have been illegals in this country for much longer than Biden, that blank check does not float for your dood, he is not above the law he is not the creator of the law he is to respect and uphold the law and he does a very poor job at doing that AND keeping balance and respect for society.
I don’t get the confusion - this is literally what Nazis do - and it will get worse ! - they keep pushing your boundaries for when and how violence can be used - until the point where the majority of you will be ok with them going into a school and shooting everyone there - it is 101 in the Nazi handbook
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
I don’t get the confusion - this is literally what Nazis do - and it will get worse ! - they keep pushing your boundaries for when and how violence can be used - until the point where the majority of you will be ok with them going into a school and shooting everyone there - it is 101 in the Nazi handbook
this is literally what Nazis do - and it will get worse ! - they keep pushing your boundaries for when and how violence can be used -
Mass deportation is not about law and order. It is about evil power and control. By misleadingly promoting immigrants as criminals, Trump administration normalizes cruelty.and dehumanizes people. Fact is immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than the US born. Instead of mass deportation, investing in communities would do more to make US safer.
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this is literally what Nazis do - and it will get worse ! - they keep pushing your boundaries for when and how violence can be used -
Mass deportation is not about law and order. It is about evil power and control. By misleadingly promoting immigrants as criminals, Trump administration normalizes cruelty.and dehumanizes people. Fact is immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than the US born. Instead of mass deportation, investing in communities would do more to make US safer.
Them exclusively trying to target immigrants is temporary - that is only used as a mean to get you used to the idea of them running rampant and violent through your streets !! The end goal is always POWER - if you think you being religious, a Trump voter or being white make you less likely being targeted when shit hits the fan - I urge you to read up on German history - they want power over you and if you stand in the way for that at any point - they will kill you - that is how it will work eventually
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
Them exclusively trying to target immigrants is temporary - that is only used as a mean to get you used to the idea of them running rampant and violent through your streets !! The end goal is always POWER - if you think you being religious, a Trump voter or being white make you less likely being targeted when shit hits the fan - I urge you to read up on German history - they want power over you and if you stand in the way for that at any point - they will kill you - that is how it will work eventually
That is how it works in all dictatorships on earth and when you make leaders immune to the law - you have essentially started the path for dictatorship - don’t believe for a second it is a considence that Trump is talking about upping your military spending by 50%, destroy all alliances you ever had and all your oligarchs all of a sudden are either very keen to get their own rockets or their own bunkers- wake up man it is literally written all over the wall
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
That is how it works in all dictatorships on earth and when you make leaders immune to the law - you have essentially started the path for dictatorship - don’t believe for a second it is a considence that Trump is talking about upping your military spending by 50%, destroy all alliances you ever had and all your oligarchs all of a sudden are either very keen to get their own rockets or their own bunkers- wake up man it is literally written all over the wall
- don’t believe for a second it is a coincidence that Trump is talking about upping your military spending by 50%,
Current US defense spending is already excessive and more than the next 9 countries combined. Economists warn that US discretionary spending exceeds tax revenue at unsustainable level. Although polls show most Americans oppose use of military force against Venezuela, Trump still threatens to annex Greenland, Canada, Panama and other countries that are no threat to the US. Perhaps, no coincidence that name of defense department is changed to war department?
Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:
- don’t believe for a second it is a coincidence that Trump is talking about upping your military spending by 50%,
Current US defense spending is already excessive and more than the next 9 countries combined. Economists warn that US discretionary spending exceeds tax revenue at unsustainable level. Although polls show most Americans oppose use of military force against Venezuela, Trump still threatens to annex Greenland, Canada, Panama and other countries that are no threat to the US. Perhaps, no coincidence that name of defense department is changed to war department?
The government will soon present a comprehensive deportation reform"
“This will mean that even more criminal foreigners will have to be sent out of Denmark.”
In Denmark, when democracy and religion collide, it is God who has the right of way,” she said, before adding:
“Therefore, to the people who have come here and are committing crimes: You shouldn’t be here. We don’t want your madness and culture of dominance. You are destroying the most beautiful country in the world, and you should not be allowed to do that.”
@Calde13
I like your prime minister Mette Frederiksen;
The government will soon present a comprehensive deportation reform"
“This will mean that even more criminal foreigners will have to be sent out of Denmark.”
In Denmark, when democracy and religion collide, it is God who has the right of way,” she said, before adding:
“Therefore, to the people who have come here and are committing crimes: You shouldn’t be here. We don’t want your madness and culture of dominance. You are destroying the most beautiful country in the world, and you should not be allowed to do that.”
I don't understand why you keep changing it to our "immigration" policies - first of all it is an easy way to get votes - because racist people have no life and that is all they care about and Mette Frederiksen is part of Social Demokratiet - imagine Bernie Sanders and take him to a billion - so all racist are on the other side of our political spectrum --- so it isnt much different from when Trump lied to Black people etc. how he wanted to help them ! And as I have told you more than once - most of our immigration policies are limited by EU - but you can call me when those "policies" become reality - I am sure there will still be phones when hell freezes over - don't you think?
Btw do you have a source for that ? I question a lot that she would involve anything regarding God in such a statement - most Danes don't give a flying f. about God or any other religion to be honest - we go to Church twice in our life unless someone dies, marries or becomes baptisted - most people treat church as a necessary evil we need to go through to get a party at age 13
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
I don't understand why you keep changing it to our "immigration" policies - first of all it is an easy way to get votes - because racist people have no life and that is all they care about and Mette Frederiksen is part of Social Demokratiet - imagine Bernie Sanders and take him to a billion - so all racist are on the other side of our political spectrum --- so it isnt much different from when Trump lied to Black people etc. how he wanted to help them ! And as I have told you more than once - most of our immigration policies are limited by EU - but you can call me when those "policies" become reality - I am sure there will still be phones when hell freezes over - don't you think?
Btw do you have a source for that ? I question a lot that she would involve anything regarding God in such a statement - most Danes don't give a flying f. about God or any other religion to be honest - we go to Church twice in our life unless someone dies, marries or becomes baptisted - most people treat church as a necessary evil we need to go through to get a party at age 13
But we are pretty accepting that other people believe and we build churches or temples or whatever those religions we house needs - so I think that part of your statement sound super weird - I would question a lot who told you that part (because her policies are basically if you come here to take advantage of our welfare system without doing what we ask you to do - or if you do criminal offences we will send you out of the country if possible - and if she could she would most likely do the same to Danes that did - because if this was straight out racism it wouldn't give her that many votes)
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
But we are pretty accepting that other people believe and we build churches or temples or whatever those religions we house needs - so I think that part of your statement sound super weird - I would question a lot who told you that part (because her policies are basically if you come here to take advantage of our welfare system without doing what we ask you to do - or if you do criminal offences we will send you out of the country if possible - and if she could she would most likely do the same to Danes that did - because if this was straight out racism it wouldn't give her that many votes)
Still, if the officer was really in the mind set of not wanting to kill someone unless he absolutely had to, he would not have pulled the trigger and instead would have prioritized avoiding being hit which he did anyway and worry about justice for the driver after the immediate danger was past.
Well said. The video shared above is one of the worst in terms of seeing what actually happened. Did you by chance see the one that was filmed by the woman's wife? She was on the sidewalk the whole time filming and you get a lot of audio pre and post shooting. There's another that show it front the front left view and not the back right view, which is the primary view being shown from most videos. Even in that one you see the officer draw his weapon as the car stops reversing, anticipating she was going to turn back forward. Many layers to this obviously but a needless death nonetheless.
Time is a flat circle....
@joe pockets
Still, if the officer was really in the mind set of not wanting to kill someone unless he absolutely had to, he would not have pulled the trigger and instead would have prioritized avoiding being hit which he did anyway and worry about justice for the driver after the immediate danger was past.
Well said. The video shared above is one of the worst in terms of seeing what actually happened. Did you by chance see the one that was filmed by the woman's wife? She was on the sidewalk the whole time filming and you get a lot of audio pre and post shooting. There's another that show it front the front left view and not the back right view, which is the primary view being shown from most videos. Even in that one you see the officer draw his weapon as the car stops reversing, anticipating she was going to turn back forward. Many layers to this obviously but a needless death nonetheless.
@joe pockets Still, if the officer was really in the mind set of not wanting to kill someone unless he absolutely had to, he would not have pulled the trigger and instead would have prioritized avoiding being hit which he did anyway and worry about justice for the driver after the immediate danger was past. Well said. The video shared above is one of the worst in terms of seeing what actually happened. Did you by chance see the one that was filmed by the woman's wife? She was on the sidewalk the whole time filming and you get a lot of audio pre and post shooting. There's another that show it front the front left view and not the back right view, which is the primary view being shown from most videos. Even in that one you see the officer draw his weapon as the car stops reversing, anticipating she was going to turn back forward. Many layers to this obviously but a needless death nonetheless.
Overall I agree. IMO, In the videos provided this officer had a right to draw his weapon and discharge it if he felt he was about to run over. The pavement was very icy not like he could just jump outta the way on dry ground. But he did get out of the way, looks like the car brushed him, and maybe no need to fire. Want to know what this same lady had done earlier. Did she use her car as weapon earlier, maybe bushing or trying to hit officers? If so he would have more reason to believe his life was in danger at that moment.
Waiting for it all to come out.
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@joe pockets Still, if the officer was really in the mind set of not wanting to kill someone unless he absolutely had to, he would not have pulled the trigger and instead would have prioritized avoiding being hit which he did anyway and worry about justice for the driver after the immediate danger was past. Well said. The video shared above is one of the worst in terms of seeing what actually happened. Did you by chance see the one that was filmed by the woman's wife? She was on the sidewalk the whole time filming and you get a lot of audio pre and post shooting. There's another that show it front the front left view and not the back right view, which is the primary view being shown from most videos. Even in that one you see the officer draw his weapon as the car stops reversing, anticipating she was going to turn back forward. Many layers to this obviously but a needless death nonetheless.
Overall I agree. IMO, In the videos provided this officer had a right to draw his weapon and discharge it if he felt he was about to run over. The pavement was very icy not like he could just jump outta the way on dry ground. But he did get out of the way, looks like the car brushed him, and maybe no need to fire. Want to know what this same lady had done earlier. Did she use her car as weapon earlier, maybe bushing or trying to hit officers? If so he would have more reason to believe his life was in danger at that moment.
This time it was because the ICE agent had to witness a woman making a U-turn in his proximity - next time it is because someone looked at them funny
I've chosen to NOT watch the video and instead, to let people talk about this and see which way the media is trying to push a narrative. Is your statement above true?
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This time it was because the ICE agent had to witness a woman making a U-turn in his proximity - next time it is because someone looked at them funny
I've chosen to NOT watch the video and instead, to let people talk about this and see which way the media is trying to push a narrative. Is your statement above true?
Quote Originally Posted by Calde13: This time it was because the ICE agent had to witness a woman making a U-turn in his proximity - next time it is because someone looked at them funny I've chosen to NOT watch the video and instead, to let people talk about this and see which way the media is trying to push a narrative. Is your statement above true?
First the agents tell her to move the car away from the road but there is a car right next to her so she can’t immediately do that - then the agents walk over to her car try to force the door open - but then she backs up so she has space to turn the car not hitting the agent or the other vehicle - and then the agent sidestep her car and shoots her - and she was driving very slowly before she was shot - so if the agent was injured or scared by that - he shouldn’t have such a job - she was basically not driving faster than you do while parking a car
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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Quote Originally Posted by Calde13: This time it was because the ICE agent had to witness a woman making a U-turn in his proximity - next time it is because someone looked at them funny I've chosen to NOT watch the video and instead, to let people talk about this and see which way the media is trying to push a narrative. Is your statement above true?
First the agents tell her to move the car away from the road but there is a car right next to her so she can’t immediately do that - then the agents walk over to her car try to force the door open - but then she backs up so she has space to turn the car not hitting the agent or the other vehicle - and then the agent sidestep her car and shoots her - and she was driving very slowly before she was shot - so if the agent was injured or scared by that - he shouldn’t have such a job - she was basically not driving faster than you do while parking a car
I haven't watched any videos and have only read a couple headlines, a few quotes from "neighbors" and more so the comments. I'm wondering why her wife was out of the car in the first place? Is this in front of their home? I don't randomly drop off my passengers on a random street only to have them film me while driving around. Any reason why the wife would be outside of her car and filming?
@kcblitzkrieg
I haven't watched any videos and have only read a couple headlines, a few quotes from "neighbors" and more so the comments. I'm wondering why her wife was out of the car in the first place? Is this in front of their home? I don't randomly drop off my passengers on a random street only to have them film me while driving around. Any reason why the wife would be outside of her car and filming?
Did she live on this street? How did she end up in the middle of this to begin with? I'm reading different views other than yours. Some are saying she wasn't driving "slowly" but was driving quickly. So confusing.
@Calde13
Did she live on this street? How did she end up in the middle of this to begin with? I'm reading different views other than yours. Some are saying she wasn't driving "slowly" but was driving quickly. So confusing.
@BigGame90 As I've said before....had she NOT chosen to participate in the harassment of ICE agents she would be alive today.
BULLSHIT!
And BTW, you need to understand that there was no legal basis for the officer to instruct Mrs. Good to “get out of the fucking car” or to attempt to open the door himself. These immigration agents are not police. They have no authority to arrest or detain anyone who is not suspected of illegal immigration status.
Mrs. Good was trying to drive away from the poorly trained ICE agents not drive into them as a "frame by frame" breakdown proves.
ICE was formed to grab the worst of the worst illegal immigrants. They were tasked with capturing illegals who continued to commit crimes here & it's a bigger disaster than DOGE because at least DOGE didn't murder anyone.
This administration has a culture of immunity so those in power have no fear of ever being convicted of their crimes. And if one by chance is convicted, a quick pardon awaits from the biggest POS ever in the WH.
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@BigGame90 As I've said before....had she NOT chosen to participate in the harassment of ICE agents she would be alive today.
BULLSHIT!
And BTW, you need to understand that there was no legal basis for the officer to instruct Mrs. Good to “get out of the fucking car” or to attempt to open the door himself. These immigration agents are not police. They have no authority to arrest or detain anyone who is not suspected of illegal immigration status.
Mrs. Good was trying to drive away from the poorly trained ICE agents not drive into them as a "frame by frame" breakdown proves.
ICE was formed to grab the worst of the worst illegal immigrants. They were tasked with capturing illegals who continued to commit crimes here & it's a bigger disaster than DOGE because at least DOGE didn't murder anyone.
This administration has a culture of immunity so those in power have no fear of ever being convicted of their crimes. And if one by chance is convicted, a quick pardon awaits from the biggest POS ever in the WH.
Yes, ICE officers, as federal law enforcement agents, have the authority to detain or arrest anyone, regardless of their immigration status (including U.S. citizens), if they are suspected of committing a federal crime, such as interfering with or assaulting a federal officer during an arrest.
Yes, ICE officers, as federal law enforcement agents, have the authority to detain or arrest anyone, regardless of their immigration status (including U.S. citizens), if they are suspected of committing a federal crime, such as interfering with or assaulting a federal officer during an arrest.
Where were the police? Seems like this is a situation they could have participated in, right? You know, protecting their community? Sometimes you have to protect people from themselves too.
@Midnight1
Where were the police? Seems like this is a situation they could have participated in, right? You know, protecting their community? Sometimes you have to protect people from themselves too.
What if ICE was on their way to arrest a child predator, or an abuser, or a drug dealer that delt lethal drugs? Is it ok for anyone to try to stop that?
@Midnight1
What if ICE was on their way to arrest a child predator, or an abuser, or a drug dealer that delt lethal drugs? Is it ok for anyone to try to stop that?
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