• Forums
  • Best Betting Sites
  • Sportsbook Promos
  • Best Sports Betting Apps
  • NFL Betting Forum
  • NBA Betting Forum
  • MLB Betting Forum
  • NHL Betting Forum
  • NCAAF Betting Forum
  • NCAAB Betting Forum
  • Soccer Betting Forum
  • Tennis Betting Forum
  • General Discussion
  • Help Forum
  • Guidelines
  • FAQ
  • Forum Updates
    Covers Logo
    Covers App
    Faster picks. Smarter bets.
    All in the NEW Covers App
    Download on the App Store Download on the Google Play Store
    • Sports
      • NFL
        • Back
        • NFL
        • NFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NFL Picks
        • NFL Prediction Prices
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NCAAF
        • Back
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAF Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NCAAF Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NBA
        • Back
        • NBA
        • NBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • NCAAB
        • Back
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • NCAAB Picks
        • Injuries
      • MLB
        • Back
        • MLB
        • MLB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • MLB Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NHL
        • Back
        • NHL
        • NHL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NHL Picks
        • Injuries
      • Soccer
      • UFC
      • WNBA
        • Back
        • WNBA
        • WNBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • WNBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • CFL
        • Back
        • CFL
        • CFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • CFL Picks
      • Golf
        • Back
        • Golf
        • Golf Home
        • Golf Odds
        • Masters Odds
        • PGA Championship Odds
        • US Open Odds
        • British Open Odds
        • Ryder Cup Odds
        • Golf Picks
    • Odds
      • All Odds
      • NFL
      • NCAAF
      • NBA
      • NCAAB
      • MLB
      • NHL
      • Golf
      • Soccer Odds
        • Back
        • Soccer Odds
        • MLS Odds
        • Champions League Odds
        • Premier League Odds
      • UFC
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • Election Odds
      • Futures
        • Back
        • Futures
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • MLB
        • NHL
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAF
      • Sports Odds History
      • Politics
        • Back
        • Politics
        • Politics Home
        • Presidential Election Odds
        • Midterm Election Odds
        • House Midterm Odds
        • Senate Midterm Odds
        • Texas Midterm Odds
        • Michigan Midterm Odds
    • Picks
      • All Picks
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • NHL
      • MLB
      • NCAAF
      • NCAAB
      • Golf
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • User Picks
      • Team User Picks
      • Consensus Picks
        • Back
        • Consensus Picks
        • All Consensus Picks
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • NHL
        • MLB
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAB
        • CFL
        • WNBA
        • Consensus FAQ
        • Public Money
    • Prop Projections
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • MLB
      • NHL
    • Betting
      • US Betting Sites
      • Canada Betting Sites
      • Sportsbook Reviews
      • States
        • Back
        • States
        • US Legal Tracker
        • Revenue Tracker
        • Arizona
        • Arkansas
        • California
        • Colorado
        • Connecticut
        • DC
        • Florida
        • Georgia
        • Illinois
        • Indiana
        • Iowa
        • Kansas
        • Kentucky
        • Louisiana
        • Maine
        • Maryland
        • Massachusetts
        • Michigan
        • Mississippi
        • Missouri
        • Nevada
        • New Hampshire
        • New Jersey
        • New York
        • North Carolina
        • Ohio
        • Oregon
        • Pennsylvania
        • Tennessee
        • Texas
        • Vermont
        • Virginia
        • West Virginia
        • Wyoming
      • Provinces
        • Back
        • Provinces
        • Alberta
        • British Columbia
        • Manitoba
        • New Brunswick
        • Newfoundland and Labrador
        • Northwest Territories
        • Nova Scotia
        • Nunavut
        • Ontario
        • Prince Edward Island
        • Quebec (English)
        • Quebec (francais)
        • Saskatchewan
        • Yukon
      • By Sport
        • Back
        • By Sport
        • Baseball
        • Basketball
        • Boxing
        • College Football
        • F1
        • Football
        • Super Bowl
        • Golf
        • Hockey
        • Horse Racing
        • March Madness
        • Soccer
        • UFC
        • World Cup
      • Betting Apps
        • Back
        • Betting Apps
        • Best Sports Betting Apps USA
        • Ontario Sports Betting Apps
      • Rest of World
        • Back
        • Rest of World
        • UK Betting Offers
          • Back
          • UK Betting Offers
          • UK Betting Sites
          • bet365 Bonus Code UK
          • 888Sport Promo Code UK
          • William Hill Sign up Offer
          • Betway Sign up Offer
          • BetVictor Bonus Code UK
      • Betting Guides
        • Back
        • Betting Guides
        • All Guides
        • Glossary
        • Betting Calculators
          • Back
          • Betting Calculators
          • Odds Converter
          • Parlay Calculator
        • Futures Betting Guide
        • Moneyline Betting Guide
        • Over/Under Betting Guide
        • Parlay Betting Guide
        • Point Spread Betting Guide
        • Prop Betting Guide
        • Sports Betting Guides
          • Back
          • Sports Betting Guides
          • How To Bet On Sports Guide
          • NFL Betting Guide
          • NHL Betting Guide
          • NBA Betting Guide
          • MLB Betting Guide
          • NCAAB Betting Guide
          • NCAAF Betting Guide
          • Golf Betting Guide
          • Tennis Betting Guide
        • Teaser Betting Guide
      • Betting News
        • Back
        • Betting News
        • All News
        • Industry News
        • Podcasts
        • Covers Videos
        • Covers Writers
        • Offers & Boosts
    • Promos
      • Sportsbook Promos
      • Canada Sportsbook Promos
      • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • bet365 Bonus Code
        • BET99 Promo Code
        • BetMGM Bonus Code
        • BetRivers Bonus Code
        • Caesars Sportsbook Promo
        • DraftKings Promo Code
        • Fanatics Sportsbook Promo
        • FanDuel Promo Code
        • Hard Rock Bet Promo Code
        • Sports Interaction Promo
        • Stake Promo Code
        • theScore Bet Promo Code
        • TonyBet Promo Code
      • Bonuses By Region
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Region
        • Arkansas Promos
        • Arizona Promos
        • Colorado Promos
        • Connecticut Promos
        • DC Promos
        • Illinois Promos
        • Indiana Promos
        • Iowa Promos
        • Kansas Promos
        • Kentucky Promos
        • Louisiana Promos
        • Maine Promos
        • Maryland Promos
        • Massachusetts Promos
        • Michigan Promos
        • Missouri Promos
        • New Jersey Promos
        • New York Promos
        • North Carolina Promos
        • Ohio Promos
        • Pennsylvania Promos
        • Tennessee Promos
        • Vermont Promos
        • Virginia Promos
        • West Virginia Promos
        • Wyoming Promos
    • Forum & Contests
      • All Forums
      • NFL Betting Forum
      • MLB Betting Forum
      • NCAAB Betting Forum
      • NCAAF Betting Forum
      • NBA Betting Forum
      • NHL Betting Forum
      • Soccer Betting Forum
      • Contests
        • Back
        • Contests
        • Contests Home
        • Streak Survivor
        • King of Covers
        • My Contests
    • Casino
      • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Back
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes No-Deposit Bonuses
        • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Back
          • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Card Crush
          • Casino.click
          • Chanced Casino
          • Crown Coins Casino
          • FreeSpin Casino
          • LoneStar
          • McLuck
          • Mega Bonanza Casino
          • PlayFame
          • Pulsz
          • Stake.us
      • US Casinos
        • Back
        • US Casinos
        • US Online Casinos
        • US Online Casino Bonuses
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • bet365 Casino Promo Code
          • BetRivers Casino Promo
          • Borgata Casino Bonus Code
          • Caesars Casino Bonus Code
          • DraftKings Casino Promo
          • Fanatics Casino Promo
          • FanDuel Casino Promo Code
          • Golden Nugget Casino Promo
          • Hard Rock Bet Casino Promo
          • Hollywood Casino Promo Code
      • Canada Casinos
        • Back
        • Canada Casinos
        • Canada Online Casinos
        • Provinces
          • Back
          • Provinces
          • Alberta Online Casino
          • BC Online Casino
          • Ontario Online Casinos
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • BC.GAME Bonus Code
          • Cloudbet Promo Code
          • RainBet Promo Code
          • Roobet Promo Code
          • Shuffle Promo Code
          • Thrill Promo Code
    • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Market Apps
      • Prediction Market Promos
      • Kalshi Promo Code
      • Kalshi Referral Code
      • Polymarket Promo Code
      • Polymarket Referral Code
      • DraftKings Predictions Promo Code
      • Novig Promo Code
      • ProphetX Promo Code
      • Underdog Promo Code
      • Betr Promo Code
      • OG Promo Code
      • Fanatics Markets Promo Code
      • Plus500 Promo Code
      • Gemini Predictions Promo Code
    • NFL Week 7
      NFL Week 7
      • NFL Odds
      • NFL Picks
      • Patriots-Bears Picks
      • NFL ATS Picks
      • Survivor Picks
      • NFL Prediction Markets
      • NFL Betting Sites
    Covers Account
    Log in Create account
    Join free Log in
    All Forums | Politics

    Immigration Issue

    «First Previous 111213 ... 353637 Next Last»
    MrWhatsItToYa
    soup-can
    Rush51
    spockgato
    thirdperson
    ...
    Participants:
    Search
    Views: 1776
    Posts: 911
    «First Previous 111213 ... 353637 Next Last»
     
    MrWhatsItToYa
    MrWhatsItToYa
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Mar, 2014
    Posts: 3239
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 2:33 AM ET #251

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: @Rush51  Not that I would,but you don't think somebody could use deadly force with any of those objects you mentioned? Maybe sufficient means to overthrow your kid's elementary school,... but enough to overthrow a government ?  Boy, you sure do have dopey responses...
    I see you never answered (with even a dopey response) if you thought a fire extinguisher or flagpole could be used with deadly force?And that's what I was responding to because you posted in #171 about whether certain objects could be used with deadly force when you said "So how bout those deadly flagpoles and dangerous campaign signs".But now you want answer if those objects could actually be dangerous or used with deadly force.As I said in my post #157 I never said those objects could overthrow the government,or that was what those people were trying to do was overthrow the government.That's just the objects they used to attack the police.You are the only one mentioning overthrowing the government as to what they were looking to accomplish that day.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: @Rush51  Not that I would,but you don't think somebody could use deadly force with any of those objects you mentioned? Maybe sufficient means to overthrow your kid's elementary school,... but enough to overthrow a government ?  Boy, you sure do have dopey responses...
    I see you never answered (with even a dopey response) if you thought a fire extinguisher or flagpole could be used with deadly force?And that's what I was responding to because you posted in #171 about whether certain objects could be used with deadly force when you said "So how bout those deadly flagpoles and dangerous campaign signs".But now you want answer if those objects could actually be dangerous or used with deadly force.As I said in my post #157 I never said those objects could overthrow the government,or that was what those people were trying to do was overthrow the government.That's just the objects they used to attack the police.You are the only one mentioning overthrowing the government as to what they were looking to accomplish that day.

     
    MrWhatsItToYa
    MrWhatsItToYa
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Mar, 2014
    Posts: 3239
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 2:53 AM ET #252

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    You are your daughter , I mean your daughter posted in “ Obviously the True Face of the Republican Party “ thread ….. Post # 77 …… “ you gotta be a certain kind of pusssy to even say that to somebody. That’s all we need today in American politics, is another sniveling kiss ass . “ you sure about your story ? You feel like just being honest ? Do you want me to pick this apart ? My God . The travesty of it all . This thread just keeps getting better and better .
    No my daughter has an account also.You can check with Covers they have her picture cause she had to send it in when she won money.She uses this computer also,and left her account open.I just got back tonight and just figured it was my account open and started replying to the posts somebody had quoted me on.This has happened a couple times before so that quote you posted is probably me posting mistakenly under her account.You can pick as much as you want.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    You are your daughter , I mean your daughter posted in “ Obviously the True Face of the Republican Party “ thread ….. Post # 77 …… “ you gotta be a certain kind of pusssy to even say that to somebody. That’s all we need today in American politics, is another sniveling kiss ass . “ you sure about your story ? You feel like just being honest ? Do you want me to pick this apart ? My God . The travesty of it all . This thread just keeps getting better and better .
    No my daughter has an account also.You can check with Covers they have her picture cause she had to send it in when she won money.She uses this computer also,and left her account open.I just got back tonight and just figured it was my account open and started replying to the posts somebody had quoted me on.This has happened a couple times before so that quote you posted is probably me posting mistakenly under her account.You can pick as much as you want.

     
    soup-can
    soup-can
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2003
    Posts: 9450
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 4:10 AM ET #253

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls:

    @soup-can I'm having trouble putting quotes from other people's posts into my post,so I will just tell what # post I am referring to.This response has to do with your post #224. But you have no problem with trump not even acknowledging the 4 military members killed under his watch for 12 days,now that seems like somebody taking their sweet ass time.Since you've had a lot of members of your family serve.If one of your family members had been captured how would you have felt if someone (who just so happened had ducked the war your family member was captured in) had called them a "loser" because they were captured?You would be ok with that?

     

    No I wouldn't be, and I am not a Trumper either.  I just can't with the Joe, Bernie, Hilary, OB and Big Mike OB now.  I want to keep this short tonight so let's call him Mr. Orange just to lower the hate in this thread.  Before Mr. Orange took on politics, he had a show where he fired everyone.  The theme of the show.  It's his personality, and there was NEVER this much hate towards him then.  He did just that as POTUS, draining the swamp, right?  I could be wrong here, but I think he first dabbled on the Dems side in his early political stunts when OB was coming to be.  Didn't work out, DNC and all so he went conservative and open arms took him in and love him like Reagan.  Even his haters see he feeds off the crowds like a popstar/movie star, and everyone also knows when he is backed into a corner he fights like no other.  Thats how he relates to the other 50% the Libs don't get.  IMO the Libs hate the other side and that's why they're compared to communists or in the least socialists.  The other side is not EVIL.  

    I do have a serious question here, I have noticed over the course of this back and forth that both,

    @MrWhatsItToYa 

    @wallstreetcappers

     you both when questioned and even more so when going on tilt you retaliate with....your post #123 for example.  Responded to your post #345.... Its a pattern, could there be two posters who have the same political views and post the same way?  Maybe a stretch here but I have to now call out BULLSHIT, not just the only flag either.  I would lay odds of these two are the same poster at -130.  

     surprisedan_popcornan_speakan_eek2  for the emoji haters an_roll_laugh

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls:

    @soup-can I'm having trouble putting quotes from other people's posts into my post,so I will just tell what # post I am referring to.This response has to do with your post #224. But you have no problem with trump not even acknowledging the 4 military members killed under his watch for 12 days,now that seems like somebody taking their sweet ass time.Since you've had a lot of members of your family serve.If one of your family members had been captured how would you have felt if someone (who just so happened had ducked the war your family member was captured in) had called them a "loser" because they were captured?You would be ok with that?

     

    No I wouldn't be, and I am not a Trumper either.  I just can't with the Joe, Bernie, Hilary, OB and Big Mike OB now.  I want to keep this short tonight so let's call him Mr. Orange just to lower the hate in this thread.  Before Mr. Orange took on politics, he had a show where he fired everyone.  The theme of the show.  It's his personality, and there was NEVER this much hate towards him then.  He did just that as POTUS, draining the swamp, right?  I could be wrong here, but I think he first dabbled on the Dems side in his early political stunts when OB was coming to be.  Didn't work out, DNC and all so he went conservative and open arms took him in and love him like Reagan.  Even his haters see he feeds off the crowds like a popstar/movie star, and everyone also knows when he is backed into a corner he fights like no other.  Thats how he relates to the other 50% the Libs don't get.  IMO the Libs hate the other side and that's why they're compared to communists or in the least socialists.  The other side is not EVIL.  

    I do have a serious question here, I have noticed over the course of this back and forth that both,

    @MrWhatsItToYa 

    @wallstreetcappers

     you both when questioned and even more so when going on tilt you retaliate with....your post #123 for example.  Responded to your post #345.... Its a pattern, could there be two posters who have the same political views and post the same way?  Maybe a stretch here but I have to now call out BULLSHIT, not just the only flag either.  I would lay odds of these two are the same poster at -130.  

     surprisedan_popcornan_speakan_eek2  for the emoji haters an_roll_laugh

     
    soup-can
    soup-can
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2003
    Posts: 9450
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 4:50 AM ET #254

    @THEMUGG

     the last report I read was they all got on a bus to Cali from a church sponsor of migrants ..... they're on a greyhound to the sunshine state but may get off when it stops in east bumfrick.

    If we did this as law abiding citizens, no mercy.  tazed if lucky, maybe shot dead.  24 hours ago, my state Gov Hochul completely side stepped a direct question about her "greatest city in the world" cops as it will be looked into and considered, fast forward a day and her stance is deport.  She needed legal or what?  Nope she needed her BASE to agree.  This is why I have no party.  I see both sides and call out the shit.  But I live in a blue state so on a national level its Lib or it doesn't matter.  Local level voices may heard and lately that includes school boards

    Reply

    @THEMUGG

     the last report I read was they all got on a bus to Cali from a church sponsor of migrants ..... they're on a greyhound to the sunshine state but may get off when it stops in east bumfrick.

    If we did this as law abiding citizens, no mercy.  tazed if lucky, maybe shot dead.  24 hours ago, my state Gov Hochul completely side stepped a direct question about her "greatest city in the world" cops as it will be looked into and considered, fast forward a day and her stance is deport.  She needed legal or what?  Nope she needed her BASE to agree.  This is why I have no party.  I see both sides and call out the shit.  But I live in a blue state so on a national level its Lib or it doesn't matter.  Local level voices may heard and lately that includes school boards

     
    Rush51
    Rush51
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2005
    Posts: 8841
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 6:32 AM ET #255

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: A wall and a GOP president isnt going to make much of an impact...but it sounds good on tv and someone busting the chops of the POTUS to get elected. No, just a stroke of a pen can stop this nonsense. Just like Biden used the pen to undue all that was working. And if it takes GOP to do it, which it obviously does, SO BE IT.   You're right... the solution ain't that hard, but DEMS make it out to be anyway. The idea is to try something different versus doing the same thing knowing it is not working....there needs to be changes implemented and no one takes the initiative to make that change...the front should be united on trying something different to combat the change that's needed...in Einstein's theory of insane, where doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, the US for all tense and purposes, is insane

    No " change" is really needed to fix the illegal immigration problem ( like passing "another" bill in Congress)... you just need to go backwards to what was already working in ths first place,... like Trump's policies.... i.e. give the Border Patrol their authority back, remain in Mexico policy,  etc.. 

    The belief we need to " change" and "add more legislation"  also rears its ugly head in many other facets of life, like

    on trying to control smash & grab, shoplifting,  whatever you want to call it.  Here around LA , they've come w an ""Organized Retail Theft Task Force.""

     

    You don't need any of this * new shit.  You just need to enforce the laws that are already on the books.  peace_5  But no one wants to put prosecute the 'hoodrats and put them back in jail, instead give them no- cost bail.  What a great deal for society.   an_drunksick  

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: A wall and a GOP president isnt going to make much of an impact...but it sounds good on tv and someone busting the chops of the POTUS to get elected. No, just a stroke of a pen can stop this nonsense. Just like Biden used the pen to undue all that was working. And if it takes GOP to do it, which it obviously does, SO BE IT.   You're right... the solution ain't that hard, but DEMS make it out to be anyway. The idea is to try something different versus doing the same thing knowing it is not working....there needs to be changes implemented and no one takes the initiative to make that change...the front should be united on trying something different to combat the change that's needed...in Einstein's theory of insane, where doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, the US for all tense and purposes, is insane

    No " change" is really needed to fix the illegal immigration problem ( like passing "another" bill in Congress)... you just need to go backwards to what was already working in ths first place,... like Trump's policies.... i.e. give the Border Patrol their authority back, remain in Mexico policy,  etc.. 

    The belief we need to " change" and "add more legislation"  also rears its ugly head in many other facets of life, like

    on trying to control smash & grab, shoplifting,  whatever you want to call it.  Here around LA , they've come w an ""Organized Retail Theft Task Force.""

     

    You don't need any of this * new shit.  You just need to enforce the laws that are already on the books.  peace_5  But no one wants to put prosecute the 'hoodrats and put them back in jail, instead give them no- cost bail.  What a great deal for society.   an_drunksick  

     

     
    Rush51
    Rush51
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2005
    Posts: 8841
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 6:53 AM ET #256

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: @Rush51  Not that I would,but you don't think somebody could use deadly force with any of those objects you mentioned? Maybe sufficient means to overthrow your kid's elementary school,... but enough to overthrow a government ?  Boy, you sure do have dopey responses...I see you never answered (with even a dopey response) if you thought a fire extinguisher or flagpole could be used with deadly force?And that's what I was responding to because you posted in #171 about whether certain objects could be used with deadly force when you said "So how bout those deadly flagpoles and dangerous campaign signs".But now you want answer if those objects could actually be dangerous or used with deadly force.As I said in my post #157 I never said those objects could overthrow the government,or that was what those people were trying to do was overthrow the government.That's just the objects they used to attack the police.You are the only one mentioning overthrowing the government as to what they were looking to accomplish that day.

    The reason I didn't respond to you is because " your argument " just got dumb.  " You" changed the argument from an " insurrection," to what constitutes deadly force to kill an "individual."   I'd argue you'd need a helluva lot of flagpoles and fire extinguishers  (and cardboard campaign signs) to carry out your insurrection.

      If the people on Capitol on Jan. 6th truly wanted to overthrow the government,  don't you think they would've planned it better, or maybe use "" some other form(s) of deadly force.""  an_cannon.... you know what I mean ??? an_light

    Put your thinking cap on buddy.. 

     

     

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: @Rush51  Not that I would,but you don't think somebody could use deadly force with any of those objects you mentioned? Maybe sufficient means to overthrow your kid's elementary school,... but enough to overthrow a government ?  Boy, you sure do have dopey responses...I see you never answered (with even a dopey response) if you thought a fire extinguisher or flagpole could be used with deadly force?And that's what I was responding to because you posted in #171 about whether certain objects could be used with deadly force when you said "So how bout those deadly flagpoles and dangerous campaign signs".But now you want answer if those objects could actually be dangerous or used with deadly force.As I said in my post #157 I never said those objects could overthrow the government,or that was what those people were trying to do was overthrow the government.That's just the objects they used to attack the police.You are the only one mentioning overthrowing the government as to what they were looking to accomplish that day.

    The reason I didn't respond to you is because " your argument " just got dumb.  " You" changed the argument from an " insurrection," to what constitutes deadly force to kill an "individual."   I'd argue you'd need a helluva lot of flagpoles and fire extinguishers  (and cardboard campaign signs) to carry out your insurrection.

      If the people on Capitol on Jan. 6th truly wanted to overthrow the government,  don't you think they would've planned it better, or maybe use "" some other form(s) of deadly force.""  an_cannon.... you know what I mean ??? an_light

    Put your thinking cap on buddy.. 

     

     

     

     
    spockgato
    spockgato
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Apr, 2005
    Posts: 15326
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 7:51 AM ET #257

    Or just post as BuckFalls and let him take the heat peace_5

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
    Reply

    Or just post as BuckFalls and let him take the heat peace_5

     
    thirdperson
    thirdperson
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2005
    Posts: 9493
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 8:39 AM ET #258

    Republicans question House attempt to impeach Mayorkas the homeland security secretary.  This includes Buck, Collins, Capito, McClintock and others.  Murkowski criticizes House effort as a detour from congress important work.  Impeachment sham is not based on evidence of impeachable offense but about politics.  Legal experts and former officials say House evidence fails to meet the standard of high crime.  Arguing that republicans are abusing impeachment by falsely accusing Mayorkas of failing standards that have never been met under past administrations.  Republicans are angry that children aren't separated from parents and put in cages.  They have no serious policy solutions to fix border issue except for cruelty.  But policy disagreement is not a valid reason and Biden administration is entitled to wide authority under the law.  Besides, Trump policies have been struck down by the courts.

    Reply

    Republicans question House attempt to impeach Mayorkas the homeland security secretary.  This includes Buck, Collins, Capito, McClintock and others.  Murkowski criticizes House effort as a detour from congress important work.  Impeachment sham is not based on evidence of impeachable offense but about politics.  Legal experts and former officials say House evidence fails to meet the standard of high crime.  Arguing that republicans are abusing impeachment by falsely accusing Mayorkas of failing standards that have never been met under past administrations.  Republicans are angry that children aren't separated from parents and put in cages.  They have no serious policy solutions to fix border issue except for cruelty.  But policy disagreement is not a valid reason and Biden administration is entitled to wide authority under the law.  Besides, Trump policies have been struck down by the courts.

     
    cdog8043
    cdog8043
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2007
    Posts: 9655
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 8:49 AM ET #259

    @spockgato

     Mr. Spockgato, did WallStreet ever answer your question or concern post 225 and 228 - fair and balanced ??

    I can only imagine when that day will come
    Reply

    @spockgato

     Mr. Spockgato, did WallStreet ever answer your question or concern post 225 and 228 - fair and balanced ??

     
    spockgato
    spockgato
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Apr, 2005
    Posts: 15326
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 9:40 AM ET #260

    He’s answered it many times . I’m too abrasive and me questioning anything is considered an attack . It’s politics C-Dogg . I’m just glad that some of the great people in our nation’s history that fought for my civil rights persevered passed these types of countermeasures and that progress was made because of them .

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
    Reply

    He’s answered it many times . I’m too abrasive and me questioning anything is considered an attack . It’s politics C-Dogg . I’m just glad that some of the great people in our nation’s history that fought for my civil rights persevered passed these types of countermeasures and that progress was made because of them .

     
    Raiders22
    Raiders22
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2010
    Posts: 34784
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 10:07 AM ET #261

    @MrWhatsItToYa

     

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    @Raiders22  This is a response to your post #197. How does any of the statement you posted equate to sanctuary cites agreeing to support illegal aliens shipped in from other states like Rush posted in #175?Protecting them from ICE,or limiting their cooperation in federal immigration enforcement actions,is in no way agreeing to support them.

    I did not see anyone that did say that?  It was in reply to the definition of them and what they purport to do.  

     Sanctuary cities have never agreed to support illegal aliens.All sanctuary cities do is limit cooperation with federal immigration authorities regarding the location and removal of unauthorized immigrants,but nice try.

    So it was simply to point out the exact definition of what the sanctuary cities claim to do and actually do.  So, to claim they never agree to support illegals is wrong.

    Now you can start another question on whether they agreed to support any/all illegals no matter where they are from if you like.  For sure, I can answer that as well.

    For example, how many illegals in a harder to reach city (SF, NYC, etc.) did not come into another state first?  Whether they went to the sanctuary city -- after arriving in a border state first -- on their own or not is not the point.  But if you want to make it the point you can do that.

    But to say they did not agree to support them is wrong -- it is pretty much the exact definition of what a sanctuary city is.

    peace_5

    Reply

    @MrWhatsItToYa

     

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    @Raiders22  This is a response to your post #197. How does any of the statement you posted equate to sanctuary cites agreeing to support illegal aliens shipped in from other states like Rush posted in #175?Protecting them from ICE,or limiting their cooperation in federal immigration enforcement actions,is in no way agreeing to support them.

    I did not see anyone that did say that?  It was in reply to the definition of them and what they purport to do.  

     Sanctuary cities have never agreed to support illegal aliens.All sanctuary cities do is limit cooperation with federal immigration authorities regarding the location and removal of unauthorized immigrants,but nice try.

    So it was simply to point out the exact definition of what the sanctuary cities claim to do and actually do.  So, to claim they never agree to support illegals is wrong.

    Now you can start another question on whether they agreed to support any/all illegals no matter where they are from if you like.  For sure, I can answer that as well.

    For example, how many illegals in a harder to reach city (SF, NYC, etc.) did not come into another state first?  Whether they went to the sanctuary city -- after arriving in a border state first -- on their own or not is not the point.  But if you want to make it the point you can do that.

    But to say they did not agree to support them is wrong -- it is pretty much the exact definition of what a sanctuary city is.

    peace_5

     
    Raiders22
    Raiders22
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2010
    Posts: 34784
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 10:23 AM ET #262

    @MrWhatsItToYa

     

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    @Raiders22  I still can't quote no one,so this is in response to your post #195. He was stating how stunning it was how many posters here try to find any way they can to justify all this.(Meaning the immigration issues).And how crazy that sounds to him that posters would try justifying all that being done. My response of kinda like the other guys in here justifying that a president should have absolute immunity against 91 indictments,while they are still trying to find crimes another president supposedly committed.Was me commenting how crazy that sounds to me,that posters would try justifying that being done. So I wasn't really comparing the absolute immunity issue to the immigration issue.I was comparing how posters try and justify things that sound crazy to the other side.That's what I was comparing to each other. To you,it wasn't "even close to a good comparison".That's because you weren't comparing the same things I was.And until I get notification from someone that you are in charge,don't be telling me what I should or shouldn't pick to compare.You complaining about what I chose to compare,simply looks like the normal deflection the Right uses.

    Okay, I guess.  It just did not seem good comparison to me.  It seemed to be a complete change of subject or deflection.  I am not telling you what to do.  I am just saying comparing an illegal immigration problem for a whole nation to one person's legal problems is a big leap.  I did not even see anyone saying he should have absolute immunity -- I may have missed that argument.

    There are many other issues that you could have chosen to counter with as a comparison, yet, you chose Trump once again.  No matter what the issue is you guys always bring your guy into the argument.  

    peace_5

     

    Reply

    @MrWhatsItToYa

     

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    @Raiders22  I still can't quote no one,so this is in response to your post #195. He was stating how stunning it was how many posters here try to find any way they can to justify all this.(Meaning the immigration issues).And how crazy that sounds to him that posters would try justifying all that being done. My response of kinda like the other guys in here justifying that a president should have absolute immunity against 91 indictments,while they are still trying to find crimes another president supposedly committed.Was me commenting how crazy that sounds to me,that posters would try justifying that being done. So I wasn't really comparing the absolute immunity issue to the immigration issue.I was comparing how posters try and justify things that sound crazy to the other side.That's what I was comparing to each other. To you,it wasn't "even close to a good comparison".That's because you weren't comparing the same things I was.And until I get notification from someone that you are in charge,don't be telling me what I should or shouldn't pick to compare.You complaining about what I chose to compare,simply looks like the normal deflection the Right uses.

    Okay, I guess.  It just did not seem good comparison to me.  It seemed to be a complete change of subject or deflection.  I am not telling you what to do.  I am just saying comparing an illegal immigration problem for a whole nation to one person's legal problems is a big leap.  I did not even see anyone saying he should have absolute immunity -- I may have missed that argument.

    There are many other issues that you could have chosen to counter with as a comparison, yet, you chose Trump once again.  No matter what the issue is you guys always bring your guy into the argument.  

    peace_5

     

     
    THEMUGG
    THEMUGG
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2003
    Posts: 38241
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 11:09 AM ET #263

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Yesterday, a number of supposed asylum seekers attacked two NYC police officers & the Governor hasn't decided whether the fucktards should be deported.  ABC news report suspects have been arrested and charged by police.  New York governor calls for deportation.  Deporting criminals is a priority for Homeland security department.  Generally, legal and illegal immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than native Americans.  Studies show immigration doesn't increase crime rates in the US.  Also foreign terrorism is rare since 9/11.  FBI found that domestic terrorism is a far greater threat especially from right wing extremists.
    Good lord.....you're getting desperate. This is classic lib doublespeak.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Yesterday, a number of supposed asylum seekers attacked two NYC police officers & the Governor hasn't decided whether the fucktards should be deported.  ABC news report suspects have been arrested and charged by police.  New York governor calls for deportation.  Deporting criminals is a priority for Homeland security department.  Generally, legal and illegal immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than native Americans.  Studies show immigration doesn't increase crime rates in the US.  Also foreign terrorism is rare since 9/11.  FBI found that domestic terrorism is a far greater threat especially from right wing extremists.
    Good lord.....you're getting desperate. This is classic lib doublespeak.

     
    spockgato
    spockgato
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Apr, 2005
    Posts: 15326
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 11:37 AM ET #264

    Double speak , double usernames , double the trouble , doublemint gum is delicious and the flavor lasts a really long time , can I have a second username also ? And if you protest that I gotta ask , in all honesty , why the criticism ? What’s it to ya anyway ?

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
    Reply

    Double speak , double usernames , double the trouble , doublemint gum is delicious and the flavor lasts a really long time , can I have a second username also ? And if you protest that I gotta ask , in all honesty , why the criticism ? What’s it to ya anyway ?

     
    spockgato
    spockgato
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Apr, 2005
    Posts: 15326
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 11:41 AM ET #265

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato: You are your daughter , I mean your daughter posted in “ Obviously the True Face of the Republican Party “ thread ….. Post # 77 …… “ you gotta be a certain kind of pusssy to even say that to somebody. That’s all we need today in American politics, is another sniveling kiss ass . “ you sure about your story ? You feel like just being honest ? Do you want me to pick this apart ? My God . The travesty of it all . This thread just keeps getting better and better .No my daughter has an account also.You can check with Covers they have her picture cause she had to send it in when she won money.She uses this computer also,and left her account open.I just got back tonight and just figured it was my account open and started replying to the posts somebody had quoted me on.This has happened a couple times before so that quote you posted is probably me posting mistakenly under her account.You can pick as much as you want.

    um , it’s not like I’m having to go through the trouble of digging up Gobekli Tepe or anything brother . Just a small amount of digging reveals all that I need to know . In less than 5 minutes I can tell very easily that is you . The jig is up my friend . Own up to it . 

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato: You are your daughter , I mean your daughter posted in “ Obviously the True Face of the Republican Party “ thread ….. Post # 77 …… “ you gotta be a certain kind of pusssy to even say that to somebody. That’s all we need today in American politics, is another sniveling kiss ass . “ you sure about your story ? You feel like just being honest ? Do you want me to pick this apart ? My God . The travesty of it all . This thread just keeps getting better and better .No my daughter has an account also.You can check with Covers they have her picture cause she had to send it in when she won money.She uses this computer also,and left her account open.I just got back tonight and just figured it was my account open and started replying to the posts somebody had quoted me on.This has happened a couple times before so that quote you posted is probably me posting mistakenly under her account.You can pick as much as you want.

    um , it’s not like I’m having to go through the trouble of digging up Gobekli Tepe or anything brother . Just a small amount of digging reveals all that I need to know . In less than 5 minutes I can tell very easily that is you . The jig is up my friend . Own up to it . 

     
    kcblitzkrieg
    kcblitzkrieg
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2008
    Posts: 8009
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 11:44 AM ET #266

    @spockgato

    The "daughter" in this story sure does have a lot of anti-Trumper comments that sound the same as another "Mr." around these parts....  an_roll_laugh

     

     

    Time is a flat circle....
    Reply

    @spockgato

    The "daughter" in this story sure does have a lot of anti-Trumper comments that sound the same as another "Mr." around these parts....  an_roll_laugh

     

     

     
    spockgato
    spockgato
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Apr, 2005
    Posts: 15326
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 11:49 AM ET #267

    Bro I saw the thread where you caught him . You let him get off easy . I don’t want to have to “ bump and thump “ all of these threads , and I won’t , but something needs to be done about this or this forum will have lost any little shred of integrity that it even had left . peace_5

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
    Reply

    Bro I saw the thread where you caught him . You let him get off easy . I don’t want to have to “ bump and thump “ all of these threads , and I won’t , but something needs to be done about this or this forum will have lost any little shred of integrity that it even had left . peace_5

     
    spockgato
    spockgato
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Apr, 2005
    Posts: 15326
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 11:55 AM ET #268

    This is like some Milli Vanilli Shit peace_5

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
    Reply

    This is like some Milli Vanilli Shit peace_5

     
    MrWhatsItToYa
    MrWhatsItToYa
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Mar, 2014
    Posts: 3239
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 1:06 PM ET #269

    @soup-can

     "He fights like no other".You mean he whines and cries like no other?

    Now the big "Covers Deep State' brigade comes out.I tell you what I'll even make it more enticing for you.I'll give you +200 odds,on as much money as you'd like to put on it.

    Reply

    @soup-can

     "He fights like no other".You mean he whines and cries like no other?

    Now the big "Covers Deep State' brigade comes out.I tell you what I'll even make it more enticing for you.I'll give you +200 odds,on as much money as you'd like to put on it.

     
    ABooksNightmare
    ABooksNightmare
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2004
    Posts: 26651
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 1:33 PM ET #270

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    Bro I saw the thread where you caught him . You let him get off easy . I don’t want to have to “ bump and thump “ all of these threads , and I won’t , but something needs to be done about this or this forum will have lost any little shred of integrity that it even had left .

     

     

    Just now lost integrity or was that lost some time ago...an_popcorn

     

    When one is quick to point out other peoples flaws but they themselves are not able to accept their own flaws even when they are pointed out is a problem…so it makes you wonder why should everyone accept what they tell some of us when they themselves do not follow the same…seems rather one sided and therein lies the problem…

    Nothing will be done about this poster because he has a family member with he same IP...just email COVERS and let them know you have a few family members and they will be signing up using the same IP address and then you are clear....that's what the poster is saying...it cannot be proven and it is not against the rules so have some babies or adopt one and then create a username and let the powers that be know...this is how one can circumvent the system in place...whether it is true or not it allows for aliases to be created without violating the rules...there is no way around a legitimate IP address and multiple users except for this way (notice I said legitimate because you could block your IP address)....this just gave everyone an out to properly create aliases or have others in your household join COVERS and tally-ho....an_light

    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    Bro I saw the thread where you caught him . You let him get off easy . I don’t want to have to “ bump and thump “ all of these threads , and I won’t , but something needs to be done about this or this forum will have lost any little shred of integrity that it even had left .

     

     

    Just now lost integrity or was that lost some time ago...an_popcorn

     

    When one is quick to point out other peoples flaws but they themselves are not able to accept their own flaws even when they are pointed out is a problem…so it makes you wonder why should everyone accept what they tell some of us when they themselves do not follow the same…seems rather one sided and therein lies the problem…

    Nothing will be done about this poster because he has a family member with he same IP...just email COVERS and let them know you have a few family members and they will be signing up using the same IP address and then you are clear....that's what the poster is saying...it cannot be proven and it is not against the rules so have some babies or adopt one and then create a username and let the powers that be know...this is how one can circumvent the system in place...whether it is true or not it allows for aliases to be created without violating the rules...there is no way around a legitimate IP address and multiple users except for this way (notice I said legitimate because you could block your IP address)....this just gave everyone an out to properly create aliases or have others in your household join COVERS and tally-ho....an_light

     
    MrWhatsItToYa
    MrWhatsItToYa
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Mar, 2014
    Posts: 3239
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 1:58 PM ET #271

    @Rush51

     No the reason you didn't respond was because you know you can't admit that those objects could cause deadly harm,and then still stick to your sarcastic comment about "So how bout those deadly flagpoles and dangerous campaign signs".

    Hold on a second,let me put my thinking cap on.

    I didn't change the argument from an "insurrection to what constitutes deadly force to kill an individual.And that you would need a helluva lot of flagpoles and fire extinguishers and campaign signs to carry out your insurrection".The only time I even mentioned the word insurrection was in post #143 asking you how many insurrections you had seen.You are the only one between the 2 of us that has brought up an "insurrection" or that they were there to "overthrow the government".In my post #157 I completely explain to you why I thought they were there and what I thought they were looking to accomplish that day.And not 1 time do I even mention that it was an insurrection and that they were looking to overthrow the government,not once,only you have brought those 2 things up.And you were the 1 bringing up that if it was a group looking to overthrow the government "then they just might use deadly force".That's when i pointed out and asked you if you thought those objects could be used with deadly force.And since then,you have still ducked the question. 

    Reply

    @Rush51

     No the reason you didn't respond was because you know you can't admit that those objects could cause deadly harm,and then still stick to your sarcastic comment about "So how bout those deadly flagpoles and dangerous campaign signs".

    Hold on a second,let me put my thinking cap on.

    I didn't change the argument from an "insurrection to what constitutes deadly force to kill an individual.And that you would need a helluva lot of flagpoles and fire extinguishers and campaign signs to carry out your insurrection".The only time I even mentioned the word insurrection was in post #143 asking you how many insurrections you had seen.You are the only one between the 2 of us that has brought up an "insurrection" or that they were there to "overthrow the government".In my post #157 I completely explain to you why I thought they were there and what I thought they were looking to accomplish that day.And not 1 time do I even mention that it was an insurrection and that they were looking to overthrow the government,not once,only you have brought those 2 things up.And you were the 1 bringing up that if it was a group looking to overthrow the government "then they just might use deadly force".That's when i pointed out and asked you if you thought those objects could be used with deadly force.And since then,you have still ducked the question. 

     
    MrWhatsItToYa
    MrWhatsItToYa
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Mar, 2014
    Posts: 3239
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 2:14 PM ET #272

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    Or just post as BuckFalls and let him take the heat
    Tell me what I had to gain by posting on a different account on purpose.I was clearly responding to soup can and what we were talking about.It wasn't like I used my daughters account to back up something I was saying.On a account that hasn't made any posts in like a year,besides when she has left her account open before.So what "heat" was I looking to avoid?

    Stick with making up nursery rhymes.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    Or just post as BuckFalls and let him take the heat
    Tell me what I had to gain by posting on a different account on purpose.I was clearly responding to soup can and what we were talking about.It wasn't like I used my daughters account to back up something I was saying.On a account that hasn't made any posts in like a year,besides when she has left her account open before.So what "heat" was I looking to avoid?

    Stick with making up nursery rhymes.

     
    ABooksNightmare
    ABooksNightmare
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2004
    Posts: 26651
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 2:18 PM ET #273

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato: Or just post as BuckFalls and let him take the heatTell me what I had to gain by posting on a different account on purpose.I was clearly responding to soup can and what we were talking about.It wasn't like I used my daughters account to back up something I was saying.On a account that hasn't made any posts in like a year,besides when she has left her account open before.So what "heat" was I looking to avoid? Stick with making up nursery rhymes.

     

    Well, I guess one could argue that if she hadn't used the account or made posts in a year, what was she doing logged in yesterday then, when looking at posts or threads does not require a login...that is what the people might say if there were people in these said forums...an_popcorn

    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato: Or just post as BuckFalls and let him take the heatTell me what I had to gain by posting on a different account on purpose.I was clearly responding to soup can and what we were talking about.It wasn't like I used my daughters account to back up something I was saying.On a account that hasn't made any posts in like a year,besides when she has left her account open before.So what "heat" was I looking to avoid? Stick with making up nursery rhymes.

     

    Well, I guess one could argue that if she hadn't used the account or made posts in a year, what was she doing logged in yesterday then, when looking at posts or threads does not require a login...that is what the people might say if there were people in these said forums...an_popcorn

     
    MrWhatsItToYa
    MrWhatsItToYa
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Mar, 2014
    Posts: 3239
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 2:28 PM ET #274

    @Raiders22

     Show me in the definition you quoted where it says sanctuary cities agreed to support illegal aliens,since it's pretty much the exact definition of what a sanctuary city is.Limiting cooperation with federal immigration authorities,is not "Agreeing to support" them.Most times nobody from the cities even meets the illegal immigrants,they just won't cooperate or give authorities the location of aliens or help with their removal.

    Reply

    @Raiders22

     Show me in the definition you quoted where it says sanctuary cities agreed to support illegal aliens,since it's pretty much the exact definition of what a sanctuary city is.Limiting cooperation with federal immigration authorities,is not "Agreeing to support" them.Most times nobody from the cities even meets the illegal immigrants,they just won't cooperate or give authorities the location of aliens or help with their removal.

     
     
    thirdperson
    thirdperson
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2005
    Posts: 9493
    Posted: Feb. 2, 2024 - 2:35 PM ET #275

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @MrWhatsItToYa    Sanctuary cities have never agreed to support illegal aliens.All sanctuary cities do is limit cooperation with federal immigration authorities regarding the location and removal of unauthorized immigrants,

    Mrwhatsittoya is right.  Sanctuary cities are no more supportive of illegal immigrants as non-sanctuary cities that provide aid to the homeless.  In sanctuary cities, police still help ICE.  If immigrants commit serious crimes, police can still detain them for federal agents to deport.  However illegal for police to arrest someone who hasn't been suspected of committing a crime.  Simply being an illegal immigrant is an civil violation and not a crime.  Sanctuary cities are legal under US constitution.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @MrWhatsItToYa    Sanctuary cities have never agreed to support illegal aliens.All sanctuary cities do is limit cooperation with federal immigration authorities regarding the location and removal of unauthorized immigrants,

    Mrwhatsittoya is right.  Sanctuary cities are no more supportive of illegal immigrants as non-sanctuary cities that provide aid to the homeless.  In sanctuary cities, police still help ICE.  If immigrants commit serious crimes, police can still detain them for federal agents to deport.  However illegal for police to arrest someone who hasn't been suspected of committing a crime.  Simply being an illegal immigrant is an civil violation and not a crime.  Sanctuary cities are legal under US constitution.

    All Forums | Politics
    «First Previous 111213 ... 353637 Next Last»

    Hot Forums IconHot Forum Topics

    • Claiming Prizes 57,808
    • 🏈🏈🏈 Fubah2's risky CFB bets 279,335
    • Wednesday 10/21/2026 914
    • I'm embarrassed for Trump supporters 61,605
    • PART DEUX 168
    • Lies, Inaccuracies & Stupidity 33,171
    • NFL THREAD * 151 * 26,112
    • NCAA WEEK 7 *** Railroad to Paradise *** 14,504
    • Sac's Week 7 Plays 715
    • Week 8 Money 4,559

    Warning - External Link

    Report User

    Thank you for reporting
    This content is abusive or harmful
    This post is spam
    An error has occurred
    This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.

    Delete Post

    Are you sure you would like to remove this post?

    Remove Thread

    Are you sure you would like to remove this thread?

    Scan Results

    Login/Register

    Happy to have you join the conversation. To do so, please login or create an account.
    Accounts are free and easy to create.

    Search


    Loading…

    Loading…

    About Us
    Contact Us
    Careers
    Our Team
    Brand
    Testimonials
    Betting Guides
    Sportsbook Reviews
    Betting News
    Podcasts
    Responsible Gambling
    Betting Sites
    US Betting Sites
    Canada Betting Sites
    Canada Casinos
    Best Betting Apps
    Contests
    Streak Survivor
    King of Covers
    Ultimate Race
    Office Pools
    The Covers community has
    810,221
    lifetime members worldwide
    Join our community today
    Covers 30 Years Logo Established in 1995,
    Covers is the world
    leader in sports
    betting information.
    21+
    Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER
    Help Privacy Privacy Choices Terms of Service Cookies Sitemap Forum
    YouTube logo
    Facebook logo
    Twitter logo
    Instagram logo
    LinkedIn logo
    Google News logo
    Covers is verified safe by:
    Evalon Logo Logo GPWA Logo GDPR logo Logo GeoTrust logo Logo
    Covers Logo
    Copyright © 1995 - 2026 Genius Sports. All Rights Reserved.
    If you choose to make use of any information on this website including online sports betting services from any websites that may be featured on this website, we strongly recommend that you carefully check your local laws before doing so.It is your sole responsibility to understand your local laws and observe them strictly.Covers does not provide any advice or guidance as to the legality of online sports betting or other online gambling activities within your jurisdiction and you are responsible for complying with laws that are applicable to you in your relevant locality.Covers disclaims all liability associated with your use of this website and use of any information contained on it.As a condition of using this website, you agree to hold the owner of this website harmless from any claims arising from your use of any services on any third party website that may be featured by Covers.