If Trump wins, he’ll pardon all seditionists

@wallstreetcappers

I'm sorry, I must've missed something..... how is el Gato breaking any rules here Wally???  He is interacting with posters just like those posters are interacting with each other???  

Please help us understand so we can all be consistent with how we interact with all usernames.  

PS.... what GOP stuff does el Gato prefer?  All I see is conversation and opining on all variety of topics related to the current and future health of the USA and world.  

Does it only make sense to discuss partisan issues within the echo chamber of each party???  What good will this provide for positive and progressive change???  Please enlighten us all on how "sticking to your party issues" helps out the masses....thanks Wally 

@Sidehatch

 Hey buddy.... just want to help out and extend the olive branch again one more time.  I know it's tough out on the streets right now and all so I'm gonna help us all out some more from now on....

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/02/trump-considered-blanket-pardons-for-jan-6-rioters-before-he-left-office-00004738

"In the final days of his presidency, Donald Trump seriously considered issuing a blanket pardon for all participants in the Jan. 6 riot, according to two people with direct knowledge of the matter."

@Zeus4par

 You too oh god of Thunder, I am here to help you so that you don't make such a fool of yourself anymore on this subject like Mr. Hatch.... 

https://time.com/6188793/trump-pardons-jan-6-explainer/

Did the President have the authority to issue preemptive pardons?

The short answer is yes. “Generally speaking, the president can pardon federal crimes and people can request clemency,” Jeffrey Crouch, a government professor at American University and an expert on presidential pardon power, wrote in an email to TIME. “Even though a pardon usually comes at the end of the legal process, the president can short-circuit that process if he wants.” 

Past presidents have issued blanket pardons, such as Jimmy Carter who exonerated everyone who dodged the Vietnam draft. It’s much rarer, though, for presidents to pardon individuals who have not yet been charged with a crime or not knowing the precise charge, if any, they were expected to face. A rare exception was when former President Gerald Ford pardoned his predecessor, Richard Nixon, in 1974 for whatever crimes he may have committed against the United States as president.

@kcblitzkrieg

Even your replies to me are antagonizing, condescending and are not adding any value. I was not addressing you I was addressing a member who is stalking another member. If you want to understand my reasoning and you are seriously seeking to do so (which of course you are for sure NOT) then go look at his post history, follow how he replies, what he says and what he does not say then it is quite obvious. My GOP comment is not made from a post or two he has a serious problem in discussing things with some groups and not much of any with a different group...that is how you draw a conclusion. 

The rules here are to respect each other, have good conversation and bring value in replies, threads and interaction. This site is not for attacking, talking down, abusing, demeaning other members when you do not agree with them and for sure this is an issue with spock and with others.

Your group needs to just completely avoid those who annoy you, just stay away from them because many of you are completely unable to interact without breaking the rules. We keep saying the same thing over and over and yet you guys do not listen. If a member is difficult to interact with then stop interacting with them, if they are breaking the rules then report it and let us decide what actions to take, do NOT break the rules because someone else annoys you, that is 100% the issue and pretty much the only concern we have.

Yeah cool story bro, buuuuutttt he didn’t know all the rioters names or identities, so he didn’t know how to pardon. Glad to hear you ignored that portion of my post. 

Read the stuff you are copying and pasting.

It’s much rarer, though, for presidents to pardon individuals who have not yet been charged with a crime or not knowing the precise charge, if any, they were expected to face.

How would Trump have known who among the thousands of seditionists to pardon, unless he of course planned all this with them? 

Also I’m not sure where you got your law degree from, but presidential preemptive pardons is not settled legal authority. Nobody has challenged preemptive pardons enough to create case law on the topic. But cool story little buddy!

Special thanks to KC for backing my OP that Trump has always intended to pardon all the seditionists! 

Time to vote for the candidates who are anti-treason, not pro-treason like Trump. 

Again = Trump is on record as intending to pardon any and all seditionists. 

He doesn’t care or know what the Constitution is, as long as it doesn’t apply to him. 

"your group"

"we"

"you guys"

This sub forum is a well known joke throughout covers and your partisan BS divisive comments right here prove it. 

Midnight was right, this is all a waste of time..... 

I merely posed a question to you in response to your OP..... I never disagreed on "if" he would pardon them all when back in office.  I think he is full of shit and that was my point in posing the question.  He could've attempted legal action when he had the chance/power and chose not to.  Would that legal action have held up in court of law?  We will never know.....  I do agree with you but only due to the fact that Trump is saying this now because it plays to his base.  It will benefit him so of course he will say he will do it....but will he really??  I don't know and I don't think we will find out because he won't be winning the 2024 POTUS.  Just my opinion.  

I don't need Wally going after me for no reason with baseless accusations of me of stalking you like some other poster.  Hopefully this response was civil enough for "his side". 

It's all about the division and our mod here has now proven that....good luck to you all over the next 18 months  

@kcblitzkrieg

 Yes to all you said, there are two strong separate groups in this section and the reason why midnight wont hang around is that your side is abusive, personal, petty, antagonizing and cannot discuss with the other side and your reply above this proves that as an already known fact.

Handshaking, agreeing, copy and pasting does not break the rules, is it annoying? Maybe and obviously to some but it does not break the rules. I only care about abuse of the site rules, the single issue I have is how members interact with others and keeping the site rules. The rest of your rant, like the one above adds no value and has zero benefit. I suggest again and again if you cannot interact with others and do so in a respectful, mature way then please stop interacting with those who cause you to break the rules.

pot meet kettle buddy.....  I don't expect anyone to follow and see each and every post from each and every user but please show me how my responses to Mr. Hatch's attacks were any different???  My original reply to the OP was about Trump having no balls and is full of shit so he is just pandering to his base with the nonsense.  You only call out one side for your alleged "attacks" and "rule breaking".    

"rules for thee and not for me"  OK, I got it, thanks finally for the transparency.  

Are opinions not welcome around here???  I'll stick to just posting the news then so as not to upset the fascist regulatory regime around here.... peace out homie.  

@kcblitzkrieg

I love it when the veiled attacks come out and you attempt to complain about one party when doing the same behavior yourself. Ive also said this countless times, if you feel someone is breaking the rules, REPORT IT. You cannot break the rules yourself because someone else did something to you. Instead steer clear of any rule breaking and avoid the situation. That is what we ask for you and anyone to do. Keep the rules, let mods and CT take care of rules being broken and have civil, respectful conversation.

The rules are the same for everyone, the difference is quantity of rule breaking comes from the group you agree with so in your mind you ignore the rules being broken because the other side deserved it or is annoying or does hand shakes or does not agree with your political position. All of that does not matter, I dont care which political side someone is on, if you break the rules then we have to step in and then the blanket crying blaming finger pointing stuff you did above and do frequently comes out. Do not concern yourself with enforcing the rules or deciding what is fair and what isnt, report a rule being broke and stay out of it. 

Not sure the rest of your twisting and turning soap opera narrative but it has zero value again, just keep the rules and report when a real rule is being broken and someone will investigate and decide, but that is not for you to decide.

This is true of both sides and it is not right for you to speak for midnight.

Nah son, I don’t got time to parse out which from your side accused me of what. 1) all of you Trumphumpers said I was a liar 2) you said my post was opinion and not credible 3) now that history has proven me right you dog turds try to walk it back

Walk this back … don’t vote for Trump if you hate treason. If you love Trump, you’re pro-treason. And I understand.

But you godless pro-Trump Antichrists can’t have it both ways. You don’t get to claim that Trump is Christian and he gets to violate all Ten Commandments. He doesn’t get to get all rapey in department stores, lose to a jury of his peers on that, and then get away Scott free. Noooooo lol.

So let Trump talk all he wants about how he fully intends to pardon the godless, anti-blue line traitors. I get it. He’s always been about that, he even supported the “hang Mike Pence” traitors. But just be clear, when you take that position you lose it all, and only 30% of the country will vote for a whiny Dotard like that. 

calling covers members trumphumpers and godless antichrists is cool with the covers rules wallstreet? Asking for a friend

@philschnaars

 If you read even a percentage of my replies in this thread and MOST of them I answered this question. It is not allowed for you or anyone to retaliate if a member breaks the rules, we ask that you REPORT it, that is why we have the feature. If you honestly feel a member has broken the rules and made personal attacks towards you then please report it. Keep in mind that this forum we allow more than any other forum except the penalty box so if you feel motivated to report someone please make sure you are also keeping the rules and not breaking them. Sometimes if someone reports a member and it is investigated that the person reporting is to blame or has fault, we can and will box both of the members or just send dual messages giving a warning and making it known that the rules being broken for either member not just the one who reports and if they are also to blame.

I think you already knew all this, not sure why you are asking the question?

Pretty sure that was my first comment in this thread so I have zero clue what you’re saying I did to “warrant” these actions. It amuses me that you let some people break the rules but chastise only a select few and continue to act like you’re fair in doing so. Thanks for the warning letting me know you’ll box me if I report someone for their childish name calling that’s ok and adds to the “conversation” in these threads 

@philschnaars

 Warrant what actions? Saying that I have answered this question many times or is the action that I said to report a rules violation? Or is the action that I advised if you report something and we investigate that you are also breaking the rules that we might take action and not just the person you are reporting? 

I enjoy your partisan slighted responses when the crux of what I said is do not retaliate, keep the rules and report if someone is breaking the rules. Sounds like a horrible reply, the one I keep making over and over. Most importantly, instead of focusing on other members make sure you are keeping the rules and being respectful yourself, that for sure is the most valuable part of my response.

Dangerous trend of republican leaders defending or promising to pardon people charged or convicted of crimes. For examples, Trump and Abbott. They are encouraging people to commit crimes.  Clearly, GOP isn't the party of law and order.  Nor is the GOP in the spirit of Christianity since it lacks compassion for immigrants and homelessness.  Oddly, DeSantis praises vigilante Penny as a good samaritan.  He is charged with manslaughter in the death of Neely in New York subway.  But in the bible, the good samaritan helps the traveller.

I’m not stalking him . I’ve been trying to get some form of communication going with him for an extended period of time but he is reluctant to jump into the pool with me . That’s fine . Maybe I’ve been a little too rough or too razor sharp with him in the past , and for that I apologize 

and maybe that’s why he has blackballed me .

I know that’s the way that things work here on this planet . My eyes and ears are always open , so I take in a great deal of information and attempt to do something with it …..

but unfortunately my heart is open too , and that , as we all know , can lead to trouble , so I need to do a better job of finding the right buttons to push in order to find some common ground , which can lead to a resolution , when the other party is strictly against the idea of any and all communication….

And granted , I’ve been pushing a lot of buttons , and not all bad ones either so don’t even go there and label me as a complete killer ok ? but no worries here , my motherboard goes deep son , and my finger is so calloused from pushing shit daily that I barely feel the vibrations when I be tapping on that son of a bitch ……

So with that smorgasbord of how I abhor territorial war cuz it’s a chore is out of the way…..

let me shed some light here like a new born sun just peeking it’s head out over the horizon …..

I may not be as well versed as all the fine gentlemen in this forum in regards to the particulars of current day world politics but I do know a thing or two about life ……

And without a shadow of a doubt or without speaking passive with little sounds …..

I can infer and hypothesize after garnering oodles and doodles of data , that most people clicking away on their devices and submitting posts here in this politics forum are just happy enough to keep playing in their own shit like pigs at a Lollapalooza concert and forgo any attempt to chop it up with those that have opposing views , and you know what ?

That’s all fine and dandy , like sittin’ in the back of the Caddie with a lassie named Mandy , and bangin’ on her back as I snack on some Blackberry Brandy ……

between pumps 

And for those not in the “ know “ that means it’s all good 

But I’ve pushed the accelerator once again on this autobahn of mental delight and I seem to have driven straight passed my original point of thought …..damn . I love to hate when that happens ……

So wallstreet , without further adieu , what is GOP ?

and why do you surmise that I prefer that ? whatever it is ?

I’d like to be schooled on the politics of your home planet and your other members , sans a few , are unwilling to participate in my progress . Maybe you can lead me to the Promised Land of Enlightenment , and I’m not being sarcastic or goofy in the slightest …….

May the Creator or The Energy that started this Universe look kindly upon your soul for giving an Alien like me a chance to understand things better 

Any input you put in is appreciated and embraced , with almost the same amount of love a mother gives to her child during a warm hug after they complete a goal or falter during it’s chase ….

God Bless 

--------------"your side is abusive, personal, petty, antagonizing"

Four posts later; "If you love Trump, you’re pro-treason. godless, anti-blue line traitors. whiny Dotard " 

Some things never change.

@UNIMAN

 Ok last reminder, you have been told this many times, if someone is breaking the rules then report it. Your whining reply is not going to accomplish anything that you want and if you are doing the same thing how can you even complain about someone else who does similar?

Try to keep the rules, set the example, make the good decisions and avoid the drama and combative replies. It is easier to throw insults and point fingers than to be better than the substance you are complaining about.

You have a long long ways to go before complaining about others when you are one of the worst offenders in the politics forum.

@wallstreetcappers

 I am pretty sure he was not whining or complaining.  Simply pointing out the horrible descriptives you used and then quite soon thereafter the same sort are used, yet again.

If using bad and offensive descriptives are against the rules you have violated them quite a bit lately.

I assumed he was just pointing out the double standard you apply to anything opposite your view on here.

Maybe I am wrong -- I am sure he can speak for himself. 

@wallstreetcappers

 I do not think it is against the rules for the forum to have a double standard.  It is the way you want to run the forum; but not against any rule that I know of.

So, there is no rule violation for him to report.  Just something to always be aware of on here -- no big deal to me, I do not get into the name-calling because it never achieves anything.  I know what it is and choose to try to have discussions with someone until they get frustrated and cannot argue their point well enough and then resort to that tactic.  Irritating, maybe; but not worth stooping to that level.