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    Raiders22
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    Posted: May. 8, 2023 - 10:49 AM ET #51

    @Sidehatch

     

     "All I said was Trump is a threat to our national security and virtually every other GOP candidate is not, including DeSantis. Yet I get called a lib? LOL

    These godless cowards are so anti-American it’s hilarious, you guys should just move to Russia considering you LOOOOVE Putin so much."

    He had four years to undermine the USA's security.  What exactly did he do to achieve this?

    I am almost certain the descriptive name calling you just used is absolutely backward.  It sounds silly to used that phrase to describe the Right.

    When you use terms like that they should be easy to back up with quotes and links to support them.  Those I would like to see.

    When you say, "All I said was..." --you have to realize that is an unsupported opinion that is not substantiated.

    Yes, you are called a Lib or a Leftist -- There are not really that many Independents or 'Centrists' on here.  I have only seen one or two -- and you are not one of them.

    Most people that claim to be Independent or just Democrats that do not want to say so.

    If you are not Leftist -- you certainly talk WAY more about those views.

    What are some examples of your Centrist's views politically?

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    @Sidehatch

     

     "All I said was Trump is a threat to our national security and virtually every other GOP candidate is not, including DeSantis. Yet I get called a lib? LOL

    These godless cowards are so anti-American it’s hilarious, you guys should just move to Russia considering you LOOOOVE Putin so much."

    He had four years to undermine the USA's security.  What exactly did he do to achieve this?

    I am almost certain the descriptive name calling you just used is absolutely backward.  It sounds silly to used that phrase to describe the Right.

    When you use terms like that they should be easy to back up with quotes and links to support them.  Those I would like to see.

    When you say, "All I said was..." --you have to realize that is an unsupported opinion that is not substantiated.

    Yes, you are called a Lib or a Leftist -- There are not really that many Independents or 'Centrists' on here.  I have only seen one or two -- and you are not one of them.

    Most people that claim to be Independent or just Democrats that do not want to say so.

    If you are not Leftist -- you certainly talk WAY more about those views.

    What are some examples of your Centrist's views politically?

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2023 - 11:00 AM ET #52

    You are bringing the thunder today peace_5

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    You are bringing the thunder today peace_5

     
    Raiders22
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    Posted: May. 8, 2023 - 11:04 AM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    You are bringing the thunder today

    No sir.  I try not to be that way.  That is the problem with writing or texting.  It can be hard to get the tone, inflection, hand and facial gestures, etc.  So, it may come off that way.

    I am just trying to point out the issues I have with these sorts of threads.  Now we have another one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    You are bringing the thunder today

    No sir.  I try not to be that way.  That is the problem with writing or texting.  It can be hard to get the tone, inflection, hand and facial gestures, etc.  So, it may come off that way.

    I am just trying to point out the issues I have with these sorts of threads.  Now we have another one.

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2023 - 11:14 AM ET #54

    I agree completely with how you explained thatpeace_5

    Things fall between the cracks , and communication gets compromised .

    I hate that .

    Too much wiggle room in these writing and text interactions .

    People can squeak out of the corners that they’ve painted themselves into too easily by feigning ignorance and what not , or wholly missing the point of the conversation by not being able to follow along with the tone of the words …..

    I can dig on that what you said there big time peace_5

    That’s why I like conversations in the flesh so much , because I get to see all the stutters and tics , and the gasping for air and shit that people do when they get nervous or angry and scared that they are fucking wrong peace_5

    I can blow up their spot quick , and if a motherfucker takes his opinions too seriously while disrespecting others in the process , I use the back and forth jibber jabber between us as a form of entertainment , and also as a learning experience ……

    kudos good sir for fighting the good fight peace_5

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    I agree completely with how you explained thatpeace_5

    Things fall between the cracks , and communication gets compromised .

    I hate that .

    Too much wiggle room in these writing and text interactions .

    People can squeak out of the corners that they’ve painted themselves into too easily by feigning ignorance and what not , or wholly missing the point of the conversation by not being able to follow along with the tone of the words …..

    I can dig on that what you said there big time peace_5

    That’s why I like conversations in the flesh so much , because I get to see all the stutters and tics , and the gasping for air and shit that people do when they get nervous or angry and scared that they are fucking wrong peace_5

    I can blow up their spot quick , and if a motherfucker takes his opinions too seriously while disrespecting others in the process , I use the back and forth jibber jabber between us as a form of entertainment , and also as a learning experience ……

    kudos good sir for fighting the good fight peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2023 - 12:10 PM ET #55

    @spockgato

     peace_5

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    @spockgato

     peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2023 - 3:42 PM ET #56

    @Sidehatch

     LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL, Knock!

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    @Sidehatch

     LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL, Knock!

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2023 - 3:11 AM ET #57

    I agree, having a Dotard named Trump being president is a bad look, especially considering he is guilty of sexual assault. His French fried brain is so fried, he can’t even ID his wife in a photo. 

    Man woman camera idiot = new_devil

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    I agree, having a Dotard named Trump being president is a bad look, especially considering he is guilty of sexual assault. His French fried brain is so fried, he can’t even ID his wife in a photo. 

    Man woman camera idiot = new_devil

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2023 - 3:20 AM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @Sidehatch    "All I said was Trump is a threat to our national security and virtually every other GOP candidate is not, including DeSantis. Yet I get called a lib? LOL These godless cowards are so anti-American it’s hilarious, you guys should just move to Russia considering you LOOOOVE Putin so much." He had four years to undermine the USA's security.  What exactly did he do to achieve this? I am almost certain the descriptive name calling you just used is absolutely backward.  It sounds silly to used that phrase to describe the Right. When you use terms like that they should be easy to back up with quotes and links to support them.  Those I would like to see. When you say, "All I said was..." --you have to realize that is an unsupported opinion that is not substantiated. Yes, you are called a Lib or a Leftist -- There are not really that many Independents or 'Centrists' on here.  I have only seen one or two -- and you are not one of them. Most people that claim to be Independent or just Democrats that do not want to say so. If you are not Leftist -- you certainly talk WAY more about those views. What are some examples of your Centrist's views politically?

     

    I get it - you are not a centrist, or a leftist, or a conservative. That’s your opinion because I said so. Instead, you’re a fascist who hates America. Again, everything you’ve said is opinion, so what I say is solely true.

    See? I’m just imitating your barely-sentient line of reasoning. 

    But nice try btw. Trump is pro-sedition. He has been supporting the seditionists and praising them at his campaign stops. He is on record as having backed the crowd that attacked federal police and wanted to hang Mike Pence. He was 0/64 in lawsuits to overturn the election, because courts require “evidence” and “facts.”

    Literally any other candidate from any other party is more fit for office than the Trump sexual assaulter. He hated freedom. He hates law and order. He and MTG want to defund the FBI. He is on the record as backing Putin instead of our 16 law enforcement agencies. 

    So I’m just saying I’m anti-sedition and pro-America. I’m sorry you don’t feel the same way. 

    Maybe this country isn’t for you and it’s time for you to leave. You obviously don’t like it. And that’s ok! Don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya on your way out! 
    an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @Sidehatch    "All I said was Trump is a threat to our national security and virtually every other GOP candidate is not, including DeSantis. Yet I get called a lib? LOL These godless cowards are so anti-American it’s hilarious, you guys should just move to Russia considering you LOOOOVE Putin so much." He had four years to undermine the USA's security.  What exactly did he do to achieve this? I am almost certain the descriptive name calling you just used is absolutely backward.  It sounds silly to used that phrase to describe the Right. When you use terms like that they should be easy to back up with quotes and links to support them.  Those I would like to see. When you say, "All I said was..." --you have to realize that is an unsupported opinion that is not substantiated. Yes, you are called a Lib or a Leftist -- There are not really that many Independents or 'Centrists' on here.  I have only seen one or two -- and you are not one of them. Most people that claim to be Independent or just Democrats that do not want to say so. If you are not Leftist -- you certainly talk WAY more about those views. What are some examples of your Centrist's views politically?

     

    I get it - you are not a centrist, or a leftist, or a conservative. That’s your opinion because I said so. Instead, you’re a fascist who hates America. Again, everything you’ve said is opinion, so what I say is solely true.

    See? I’m just imitating your barely-sentient line of reasoning. 

    But nice try btw. Trump is pro-sedition. He has been supporting the seditionists and praising them at his campaign stops. He is on record as having backed the crowd that attacked federal police and wanted to hang Mike Pence. He was 0/64 in lawsuits to overturn the election, because courts require “evidence” and “facts.”

    Literally any other candidate from any other party is more fit for office than the Trump sexual assaulter. He hated freedom. He hates law and order. He and MTG want to defund the FBI. He is on the record as backing Putin instead of our 16 law enforcement agencies. 

    So I’m just saying I’m anti-sedition and pro-America. I’m sorry you don’t feel the same way. 

    Maybe this country isn’t for you and it’s time for you to leave. You obviously don’t like it. And that’s ok! Don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya on your way out! 
    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2023 - 3:26 AM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    I agree completely with how you explained that Things fall between the cracks , and communication gets compromised . I hate that . Too much wiggle room in these writing and text interactions . People can squeak out of the corners that they’ve painted themselves into too easily by feigning ignorance and what not , or wholly missing the point of the conversation by not being able to follow along with the tone of the words ….. I can dig on that what you said there big time  That’s why I like conversations in the flesh so much , because I get to see all the stutters and tics , and the gasping for air and shit that people do when they get nervous or angry and scared that they are fucking wrong  I can blow up their spot quick , and if a motherfucker takes his opinions too seriously while disrespecting others in the process , I use the back and forth jibber jabber between us as a form of entertainment , and also as a learning experience …… kudos good sir for fighting the good fight

    I agree, you are incapable of arguing facts and reason, so you change the subject in every single post and make childish high school references. Good for you sir! 

    Congrats on another participation trophy! win

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    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    I agree completely with how you explained that Things fall between the cracks , and communication gets compromised . I hate that . Too much wiggle room in these writing and text interactions . People can squeak out of the corners that they’ve painted themselves into too easily by feigning ignorance and what not , or wholly missing the point of the conversation by not being able to follow along with the tone of the words ….. I can dig on that what you said there big time  That’s why I like conversations in the flesh so much , because I get to see all the stutters and tics , and the gasping for air and shit that people do when they get nervous or angry and scared that they are fucking wrong  I can blow up their spot quick , and if a motherfucker takes his opinions too seriously while disrespecting others in the process , I use the back and forth jibber jabber between us as a form of entertainment , and also as a learning experience …… kudos good sir for fighting the good fight

    I agree, you are incapable of arguing facts and reason, so you change the subject in every single post and make childish high school references. Good for you sir! 

    Congrats on another participation trophy! win

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2023 - 7:05 AM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    I agree, having a Dotard named Trump being president is a bad look, especially considering he is guilty of sexual assault. His French fried brain is so fried, he can’t even ID his wife in a photo.  Man woman camera idiot =

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    I agree, having a Dotard named Trump being president is a bad look, especially considering he is guilty of sexual assault. His French fried brain is so fried, he can’t even ID his wife in a photo.  Man woman camera idiot =

            @Sidehatch

     an_worship    

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2023 - 11:03 AM ET #61

    how you gonna bow down to this guy ?

    What he said about me is blatantly untrue , in regards to speaking about facts and reason .

    Blasphemy .

    And I change the subject ?

    That makes no sense . All I do is touch on the subject of conversing with respect and cunning , and not falling prey to fear when it comes to confrontation , while trying to find a better way to resolve things , instead of doing the same old name calling and avoidance .

    Hypocrisy is real and I punch it in the face buddy .

    High school references ?

    Please .

    You think what you do is any different ? When attempting to put a comedic twist on things by using the term dotard or snowflake ?

    my goodness . Please . Get a grip on your ball sack man . Whatever you do in regards to juvenile behavior , and being funny with it , I just surpass it and do it better so don’t be upset .

    Mister Pot meet kettle this is some bullshit peace_5

    You better have your wood screwed cuz I’m gonna blow your doors completely off if you bring these types of arguments into my realm . Child’s play . Literally . I’ve known all these things since I was 10 . Whatever stunts you’re trying to pull I’ve seen since the 3rd grade so be careful .

    and participation trophies ?

    Get real .

    I earn my shit . Aren’t you a Democrat ? Aren’t participation trophies a liberal thing ? School me on the subject . I got no problem with giving anybody anything they want in that respect , just as long as you save the biggest and best trophy for me after I work hard for it .

    ya dig ?

    come with it ….. let’s see what you’ve got …..

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    how you gonna bow down to this guy ?

    What he said about me is blatantly untrue , in regards to speaking about facts and reason .

    Blasphemy .

    And I change the subject ?

    That makes no sense . All I do is touch on the subject of conversing with respect and cunning , and not falling prey to fear when it comes to confrontation , while trying to find a better way to resolve things , instead of doing the same old name calling and avoidance .

    Hypocrisy is real and I punch it in the face buddy .

    High school references ?

    Please .

    You think what you do is any different ? When attempting to put a comedic twist on things by using the term dotard or snowflake ?

    my goodness . Please . Get a grip on your ball sack man . Whatever you do in regards to juvenile behavior , and being funny with it , I just surpass it and do it better so don’t be upset .

    Mister Pot meet kettle this is some bullshit peace_5

    You better have your wood screwed cuz I’m gonna blow your doors completely off if you bring these types of arguments into my realm . Child’s play . Literally . I’ve known all these things since I was 10 . Whatever stunts you’re trying to pull I’ve seen since the 3rd grade so be careful .

    and participation trophies ?

    Get real .

    I earn my shit . Aren’t you a Democrat ? Aren’t participation trophies a liberal thing ? School me on the subject . I got no problem with giving anybody anything they want in that respect , just as long as you save the biggest and best trophy for me after I work hard for it .

    ya dig ?

    come with it ….. let’s see what you’ve got …..

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2023 - 9:30 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato: I agree completely with how you explained that Things fall between the cracks , and communication gets compromised . I hate that . Too much wiggle room in these writing and text interactions . People can squeak out of the corners that they’ve painted themselves into too easily by feigning ignorance and what not , or wholly missing the point of the conversation by not being able to follow along with the tone of the words ….. I can dig on that what you said there big time  That’s why I like conversations in the flesh so much , because I get to see all the stutters and tics , and the gasping for air and shit that people do when they get nervous or angry and scared that they are fucking wrong  I can blow up their spot quick , and if a motherfucker takes his opinions too seriously while disrespecting others in the process , I use the back and forth jibber jabber between us as a form of entertainment , and also as a learning experience …… kudos good sir for fighting the good fight I agree, you are incapable of arguing facts and reason, so you change the subject in every single post and make childish high school references. Good for you sir!  Congrats on another participation trophy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato: I agree completely with how you explained that Things fall between the cracks , and communication gets compromised . I hate that . Too much wiggle room in these writing and text interactions . People can squeak out of the corners that they’ve painted themselves into too easily by feigning ignorance and what not , or wholly missing the point of the conversation by not being able to follow along with the tone of the words ….. I can dig on that what you said there big time  That’s why I like conversations in the flesh so much , because I get to see all the stutters and tics , and the gasping for air and shit that people do when they get nervous or angry and scared that they are fucking wrong  I can blow up their spot quick , and if a motherfucker takes his opinions too seriously while disrespecting others in the process , I use the back and forth jibber jabber between us as a form of entertainment , and also as a learning experience …… kudos good sir for fighting the good fight I agree, you are incapable of arguing facts and reason, so you change the subject in every single post and make childish high school references. Good for you sir!  Congrats on another participation trophy!

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    Thank you for acknowledging , seeing , and agreeing with my viewpoint Zeus .

    I’m glad to see that there are still people in this world that are able to think and act for themselves , even though it may go against what their clique believes .

    It’s refreshing …..

    like a nice cold Zima served in a champagne glass full of lemon , ice , and mint leaf peace_5

    To my new best friend Zeus an_cheers

     

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    Thank you for acknowledging , seeing , and agreeing with my viewpoint Zeus .

    I’m glad to see that there are still people in this world that are able to think and act for themselves , even though it may go against what their clique believes .

    It’s refreshing …..

    like a nice cold Zima served in a champagne glass full of lemon , ice , and mint leaf peace_5

    To my new best friend Zeus an_cheers

     

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2023 - 10:39 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    you are incapable of arguing facts and reason, so you change the subject in every single post and make childish high school references. Congrats on another participation trophy!

     

    @Sidehatch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    you are incapable of arguing facts and reason, so you change the subject in every single post and make childish high school references. Congrats on another participation trophy!

     

    @Sidehatch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    you are incapable of arguing facts and reason, so you change the subject in every single post and make childish high school references. Congrats on another participation trophy!

     

    @Sidehatch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    you are incapable of arguing facts and reason, so you change the subject in every single post and make childish high school references. Congrats on another participation trophy!

     

    @Sidehatch

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    Posted: May. 10, 2023 - 11:02 PM ET #66

    two pair of handshakes bro ?

    you must really mean it peace_5

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    two pair of handshakes bro ?

    you must really mean it peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2023 - 11:04 PM ET #67

    beautiful artistry bro . You really hammered your point home peace_5

    you have quantity AND quality ? Whoa .

    Sounds like you might win the Politics Forum Post of the Year peace_5…..Post of the Year peace_5

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    beautiful artistry bro . You really hammered your point home peace_5

    you have quantity AND quality ? Whoa .

    Sounds like you might win the Politics Forum Post of the Year peace_5…..Post of the Year peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2023 - 11:45 PM ET #68

    @spockgato

    Probably a good thing to stop stalking the guy like this, he isnt antagonizing you and if his handshakes annoy then skip the thread and go to the GOP stuff you prefer. I thought you understood how to avoid situations like this?

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    @spockgato

    Probably a good thing to stop stalking the guy like this, he isnt antagonizing you and if his handshakes annoy then skip the thread and go to the GOP stuff you prefer. I thought you understood how to avoid situations like this?

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2023 - 12:28 AM ET #69

    Uh oh, Trump went on the record with his intent to pardon the seditionists tonight. It’s no longer “my opinion” (attention to the safe space snowflakes)

    Trump, the front-runner in the race for the Republican nomination, declined to express regret for the deadly attack on the U.S. Capitol when his supporters sought to prevent Congress from ratifying the election result, and he repeated his plan to pardon individuals involved if voters return him to the White House in 2024. 

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    Uh oh, Trump went on the record with his intent to pardon the seditionists tonight. It’s no longer “my opinion” (attention to the safe space snowflakes)

    Trump, the front-runner in the race for the Republican nomination, declined to express regret for the deadly attack on the U.S. Capitol when his supporters sought to prevent Congress from ratifying the election result, and he repeated his plan to pardon individuals involved if voters return him to the White House in 2024. 

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2023 - 12:32 AM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @spockgato Probably a good thing to stop stalking the guy like this, he isnt antagonizing you and if his handshakes annoy then skip the thread and go to the GOP stuff you prefer. I thought you understood how to avoid situations like this?

    Good point wallstreet. However, he’s a stalker who seeks to never engage in the conversation, just to divert it. Not sure if it’s because he’s intellectually incapable, mentally inferior, emotionally inferior, or has cognitive difficulties. 
    Personally, I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt and think it’s cognitive difficulties. Would explain the childish behavior and second grade Boomer punctuation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @spockgato Probably a good thing to stop stalking the guy like this, he isnt antagonizing you and if his handshakes annoy then skip the thread and go to the GOP stuff you prefer. I thought you understood how to avoid situations like this?

    Good point wallstreet. However, he’s a stalker who seeks to never engage in the conversation, just to divert it. Not sure if it’s because he’s intellectually incapable, mentally inferior, emotionally inferior, or has cognitive difficulties. 
    Personally, I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt and think it’s cognitive difficulties. Would explain the childish behavior and second grade Boomer punctuation.

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2023 - 12:33 AM ET #71

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @spockgato Probably a good thing to stop stalking the guy like this, he isnt antagonizing you and if his handshakes annoy then skip the thread and go to the GOP stuff you prefer. I thought you understood how to avoid situations like this?

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @spockgato Probably a good thing to stop stalking the guy like this, he isnt antagonizing you and if his handshakes annoy then skip the thread and go to the GOP stuff you prefer. I thought you understood how to avoid situations like this?

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2023 - 12:33 AM ET #72

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: you are incapable of arguing facts and reason, so you change the subject in every single post and make childish high school references. Congrats on another participation trophy!   @Sidehatch

    peace_5 peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: you are incapable of arguing facts and reason, so you change the subject in every single post and make childish high school references. Congrats on another participation trophy!   @Sidehatch

    peace_5 peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2023 - 12:34 AM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: I agree, having a Dotard named Trump being president is a bad look, especially considering he is guilty of sexual assault. His French fried brain is so fried, he can’t even ID his wife in a photo.  Man woman camera idiot =         @Sidehatch
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: I agree, having a Dotard named Trump being president is a bad look, especially considering he is guilty of sexual assault. His French fried brain is so fried, he can’t even ID his wife in a photo.  Man woman camera idiot =         @Sidehatch
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    Posted: May. 11, 2023 - 12:35 AM ET #74

    From Reuters:

    In a contentious 70-minute broadcast, Trump drew laughter from a New Hampshire audience when he mocked writer E. Jean Carroll’s account of his having sexually abused her, repeated falsehoods about his 2020 election loss, said he would pardon many of his supporters convicted of taking part in a Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, and called the CNN moderator Kaitlan Collins a “nasty person.”

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    From Reuters:

    In a contentious 70-minute broadcast, Trump drew laughter from a New Hampshire audience when he mocked writer E. Jean Carroll’s account of his having sexually abused her, repeated falsehoods about his 2020 election loss, said he would pardon many of his supporters convicted of taking part in a Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, and called the CNN moderator Kaitlan Collins a “nasty person.”

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg: @Sidehatch  You realize Trump could've already pardoned these offenders prior to him leaving office right?  A Presidential pardon can apply to arrests/charges and not just guilty verdicts (see Nixon).  So if your opinion is that he will pardon these people once he wins 2024 and is back in office, then why didn't he have the balls to do so while he was previously in office?? Wow, you sure do lack the mental capacity to understand how the legal system there works, lil unAmerican buddy! It’s probably because you don’t live in the states, as you’ve so frequently mentioned. Regardless of the reason for your blissful ignorance, a president can’t pardon people from future charges - they can only pardon charges that exist (and sometimes events that occurred) while they’re in office. Here, Trump didn’t know who would be charged with what during his last days in office, and probably didn’t foresee charges for seditious conspiracy because he is a blithering idiot who has no knowledge about the law. (He arguably only has disrespect for the law, which is why the fascist opposes free and fair elections.) Even if he could have pardoned traitors like Tarrio, that would require him to acknowledge that he knew exactly who the traitors were. (You have to be specific about who you are pardoning after all.) That would destroy his lame excuse that he didn’t know who the seditious traitors were, which is the lame excuse he always cites in any case where he’s a defendant.  Glad to open your eyes Lil Buddy!  #themoreyouknow

    One literally can not make this stuff up.....  

    Dear Mr. Hatch,

    I even gave you a precedent of Nixon's situation.....please go read up in the history books on how President Ford pardoned Nixon for crimes PRIOR to being convicted of any crime.  That was my point.  I wrote it clearly and without opinion, just a statement of legal fact.  I'm not sure how you got that confused with your reasons for insulting me for stating simple facts. 

    Presidential pardons apply at any stage of the legal system.  Arrest, charge, verdict, etc.  A pardon can be made at any time.  Trump could have pardoned these people while he had the power in office.  He chose not too.  This is a fact that cannot be argued.  

    "A federal pardon can be issued prior to the start of a legal case or inquiry, prior to any indictments being issued, for unspecified offenses, and prior to or after a conviction for a federal crime. Ford's broad federal pardon of former president Richard M. Nixon in 1974 for "all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974" is a notable example of a fixed-period federal pardon that came prior to any indictments being issued and that covered unspecified federal offenses that may or may not have been committed.

    A simple search with the note on Nixon I provided for you would have saved you the time and brain power of responding to me and now embarrassing yourself with such a ignorant statement.  I'm glad you sure opened my eyes on this, thank you.  

    By the way, I think you have me confused with someone else as I live in the great free state of Florida and am an American citizen.  But thank you for this interaction, I see the cesspool forum is alive and well.... shits really gone down hill now since Midnight left I see.  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg: @Sidehatch  You realize Trump could've already pardoned these offenders prior to him leaving office right?  A Presidential pardon can apply to arrests/charges and not just guilty verdicts (see Nixon).  So if your opinion is that he will pardon these people once he wins 2024 and is back in office, then why didn't he have the balls to do so while he was previously in office?? Wow, you sure do lack the mental capacity to understand how the legal system there works, lil unAmerican buddy! It’s probably because you don’t live in the states, as you’ve so frequently mentioned. Regardless of the reason for your blissful ignorance, a president can’t pardon people from future charges - they can only pardon charges that exist (and sometimes events that occurred) while they’re in office. Here, Trump didn’t know who would be charged with what during his last days in office, and probably didn’t foresee charges for seditious conspiracy because he is a blithering idiot who has no knowledge about the law. (He arguably only has disrespect for the law, which is why the fascist opposes free and fair elections.) Even if he could have pardoned traitors like Tarrio, that would require him to acknowledge that he knew exactly who the traitors were. (You have to be specific about who you are pardoning after all.) That would destroy his lame excuse that he didn’t know who the seditious traitors were, which is the lame excuse he always cites in any case where he’s a defendant.  Glad to open your eyes Lil Buddy!  #themoreyouknow

    One literally can not make this stuff up.....  

    Dear Mr. Hatch,

    I even gave you a precedent of Nixon's situation.....please go read up in the history books on how President Ford pardoned Nixon for crimes PRIOR to being convicted of any crime.  That was my point.  I wrote it clearly and without opinion, just a statement of legal fact.  I'm not sure how you got that confused with your reasons for insulting me for stating simple facts. 

    Presidential pardons apply at any stage of the legal system.  Arrest, charge, verdict, etc.  A pardon can be made at any time.  Trump could have pardoned these people while he had the power in office.  He chose not too.  This is a fact that cannot be argued.  

    "A federal pardon can be issued prior to the start of a legal case or inquiry, prior to any indictments being issued, for unspecified offenses, and prior to or after a conviction for a federal crime. Ford's broad federal pardon of former president Richard M. Nixon in 1974 for "all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974" is a notable example of a fixed-period federal pardon that came prior to any indictments being issued and that covered unspecified federal offenses that may or may not have been committed.

    A simple search with the note on Nixon I provided for you would have saved you the time and brain power of responding to me and now embarrassing yourself with such a ignorant statement.  I'm glad you sure opened my eyes on this, thank you.  

    By the way, I think you have me confused with someone else as I live in the great free state of Florida and am an American citizen.  But thank you for this interaction, I see the cesspool forum is alive and well.... shits really gone down hill now since Midnight left I see.  

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