Four Proud Boy organizers who helped organize the attack on the Capitol were convicted today. Guess what will happen to them (and others who destroyed federal property, made death threats to Dems and Repubs, violently attacked police officers) if Trump wins a second term?
They’ll be pardoned, of course.
What message will that send to these domestic terrorists? That domestic terrorism is ok.
That’s the #1 reason I would oppose Trump being president again, we don’t need the seditionists to be emboldened. I don’t like DeSantis, but at least he is an attorney who doesn’t interfere with free and fair elections.
Trump’s a threat to our national security, whether it’s emboldening sedition or leaking classified intel to Putin.
#AnyonebutTrump2024
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Four Proud Boy organizers who helped organize the attack on the Capitol were convicted today. Guess what will happen to them (and others who destroyed federal property, made death threats to Dems and Repubs, violently attacked police officers) if Trump wins a second term?
They’ll be pardoned, of course.
What message will that send to these domestic terrorists? That domestic terrorism is ok.
That’s the #1 reason I would oppose Trump being president again, we don’t need the seditionists to be emboldened. I don’t like DeSantis, but at least he is an attorney who doesn’t interfere with free and fair elections.
Trump’s a threat to our national security, whether it’s emboldening sedition or leaking classified intel to Putin.
I was just saying that what you are stating is just your opinion
It is not fact .
unless you’re some soothsayer or clairvoyant , I don’t know , you got a ball ? Crystal or otherwise ? Can you see the future ? Do you know Neo ? Are you The Oracle ? No you’re not .
Now before you get all bendy like Keanu Reaves and attempt to dodge these bullets , you called me a snowflake ….
What in the hell does that even mean ?
Because I don’t know , but it’s provocative , and it really got me going
You’re kinda not nice too . You don’t sound like any Democrat that I’ve ever encountered before . I like it . You sure you ain’t a closet Republican ?
you got any skeletons in there with ya buddy ?
And for the record I’m full of substances and my conversation has a plethora of contribution and meaning to it .
Be well friend
wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
I was just saying that what you are stating is just your opinion
It is not fact .
unless you’re some soothsayer or clairvoyant , I don’t know , you got a ball ? Crystal or otherwise ? Can you see the future ? Do you know Neo ? Are you The Oracle ? No you’re not .
Now before you get all bendy like Keanu Reaves and attempt to dodge these bullets , you called me a snowflake ….
What in the hell does that even mean ?
Because I don’t know , but it’s provocative , and it really got me going
You’re kinda not nice too . You don’t sound like any Democrat that I’ve ever encountered before . I like it . You sure you ain’t a closet Republican ?
you got any skeletons in there with ya buddy ?
And for the record I’m full of substances and my conversation has a plethora of contribution and meaning to it .
You realize Trump could've already pardoned these offenders prior to him leaving office right? A Presidential pardon can apply to arrests/charges and not just guilty verdicts (see Nixon).
So if your opinion is that he will pardon these people once he wins 2024 and is back in office, then why didn't he have the balls to do so while he was previously in office??
Time is a flat circle....
@Sidehatch
You realize Trump could've already pardoned these offenders prior to him leaving office right? A Presidential pardon can apply to arrests/charges and not just guilty verdicts (see Nixon).
So if your opinion is that he will pardon these people once he wins 2024 and is back in office, then why didn't he have the balls to do so while he was previously in office??
I was just saying that what you are stating is just your opinion It is not fact . unless you’re some soothsayer or clairvoyant , I don’t know , you got a ball ? Crystal or otherwise ? Can you see the future ? Do you know Neo ? Are you The Oracle ? No you’re not . Now before you get all bendy like Keanu Reaves and attempt to dodge these bullets , you called me a snowflake …. What in the hell does that even mean ? Because I don’t know , but it’s provocative , and it really got me going You’re kinda not nice too . You don’t sound like any Democrat that I’ve ever encountered before . I like it . You sure you ain’t a closet Republican ? you got any skeletons in there with ya buddy ? And for the record I’m full of substances and my conversation has a plethora of contribution and meaning to it . Be well friend
Some folks don't have the mental capacity to fully comprehend your contributions and meanings to the thought provoking value in said conversations.....keep fighting the good fight el Gato
Time is a flat circle....
Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:
I was just saying that what you are stating is just your opinion It is not fact . unless you’re some soothsayer or clairvoyant , I don’t know , you got a ball ? Crystal or otherwise ? Can you see the future ? Do you know Neo ? Are you The Oracle ? No you’re not . Now before you get all bendy like Keanu Reaves and attempt to dodge these bullets , you called me a snowflake …. What in the hell does that even mean ? Because I don’t know , but it’s provocative , and it really got me going You’re kinda not nice too . You don’t sound like any Democrat that I’ve ever encountered before . I like it . You sure you ain’t a closet Republican ? you got any skeletons in there with ya buddy ? And for the record I’m full of substances and my conversation has a plethora of contribution and meaning to it . Be well friend
Some folks don't have the mental capacity to fully comprehend your contributions and meanings to the thought provoking value in said conversations.....keep fighting the good fight el Gato
Four Proud Boy organizers who helped organize the attack on the Capitol were convicted today. Guess what will happen to them (and others who destroyed federal property, made death threats to Dems and Repubs, violently attacked police officers) if Trump wins a second term? They’ll be pardoned, of course.
@Sidehatch
As part of his eager and broader "revenge tour" that is exactly what I would expect as well. He may even weaponize the DOJ to then go after all those who dared prosecute those "Jan 6 patriots" and anyone (including judges) who dare bring criminal charges against himself or any of his pals and go after any media sites or networks who dared publicize those events.
Then round them all up in the dead of night, labelling them as "enemies of America" and herd them into "re-education labor camps" in the Aleutians
The MAGA-cult would cheer and celebrate for days.
Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:
Four Proud Boy organizers who helped organize the attack on the Capitol were convicted today. Guess what will happen to them (and others who destroyed federal property, made death threats to Dems and Repubs, violently attacked police officers) if Trump wins a second term? They’ll be pardoned, of course.
@Sidehatch
As part of his eager and broader "revenge tour" that is exactly what I would expect as well. He may even weaponize the DOJ to then go after all those who dared prosecute those "Jan 6 patriots" and anyone (including judges) who dare bring criminal charges against himself or any of his pals and go after any media sites or networks who dared publicize those events.
Then round them all up in the dead of night, labelling them as "enemies of America" and herd them into "re-education labor camps" in the Aleutians
You don’t believe any of that bullshit c’mon now let’s get real
If you’re taking poetic license and being sarcastic that’s fine I guess , but tell me how you really feel , or what you actually think that he will do .
I’ve seen too many instances where you gentlemen have typed “ camps “ , Hitler , and Nazis and you fellows just throwing around those terms like they are your damp and soiled underwear into the hamper , in my opinion , shows a lack of respect for those that suffered those disgusting crimes to humanity .
but if that’s how you get down , who am I to tell you how to boogie
Keep on dancing Travolta
wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
You don’t believe any of that bullshit c’mon now let’s get real
If you’re taking poetic license and being sarcastic that’s fine I guess , but tell me how you really feel , or what you actually think that he will do .
I’ve seen too many instances where you gentlemen have typed “ camps “ , Hitler , and Nazis and you fellows just throwing around those terms like they are your damp and soiled underwear into the hamper , in my opinion , shows a lack of respect for those that suffered those disgusting crimes to humanity .
but if that’s how you get down , who am I to tell you how to boogie
oppose Trump being president again, we don’t need the seditionists to be emboldened. I don’t like DeSantis, but at least he is an attorney who doesn’t interfere with free and fair elections. Trump’s a threat to our national security, whether it’s emboldening sedition or leaking classified intel to Putin. #AnyonebutTrump2024
@Sidehatch
100% spot on again
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:
oppose Trump being president again, we don’t need the seditionists to be emboldened. I don’t like DeSantis, but at least he is an attorney who doesn’t interfere with free and fair elections. Trump’s a threat to our national security, whether it’s emboldening sedition or leaking classified intel to Putin. #AnyonebutTrump2024
@Sidehatch You realize Trump could've already pardoned these offenders prior to him leaving office right? A Presidential pardon can apply to arrests/charges and not just guilty verdicts (see Nixon). So if your opinion is that he will pardon these people once he wins 2024 and is back in office, then why didn't he have the balls to do so while he was previously in office??
Wow, you sure do lack the mental capacity to understand how the legal system there works, lil unAmerican buddy! It’s probably because you don’t live in the states, as you’ve so frequently mentioned.
Regardless of the reason for your blissful ignorance, a president can’t pardon people from future charges - they can only pardon charges that exist (and sometimes events that occurred) while they’re in office. Here, Trump didn’t know who would be charged with what during his last days in office, and probably didn’t foresee charges for seditious conspiracy because he is a blithering idiot who has no knowledge about the law. (He arguably only has disrespect for the law, which is why the fascist opposes free and fair elections.)
Even if he could have pardoned traitors like Tarrio, that would require him to acknowledge that he knew exactly who the traitors were. (You have to be specific about who you are pardoning after all.)
That would destroy his lame excuse that he didn’t know who the seditious traitors were, which is the lame excuse he always cites in any case where he’s a defendant.
Glad to open your eyes Lil Buddy!
#themoreyouknow
Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:
@Sidehatch You realize Trump could've already pardoned these offenders prior to him leaving office right? A Presidential pardon can apply to arrests/charges and not just guilty verdicts (see Nixon). So if your opinion is that he will pardon these people once he wins 2024 and is back in office, then why didn't he have the balls to do so while he was previously in office??
Wow, you sure do lack the mental capacity to understand how the legal system there works, lil unAmerican buddy! It’s probably because you don’t live in the states, as you’ve so frequently mentioned.
Regardless of the reason for your blissful ignorance, a president can’t pardon people from future charges - they can only pardon charges that exist (and sometimes events that occurred) while they’re in office. Here, Trump didn’t know who would be charged with what during his last days in office, and probably didn’t foresee charges for seditious conspiracy because he is a blithering idiot who has no knowledge about the law. (He arguably only has disrespect for the law, which is why the fascist opposes free and fair elections.)
Even if he could have pardoned traitors like Tarrio, that would require him to acknowledge that he knew exactly who the traitors were. (You have to be specific about who you are pardoning after all.)
That would destroy his lame excuse that he didn’t know who the seditious traitors were, which is the lame excuse he always cites in any case where he’s a defendant.
@Sidehatch You realize Trump could've already pardoned these offenders prior to him leaving office right? A Presidential pardon can apply to arrests/charges and not just guilty verdicts (see Nixon). So if your opinion is that he will pardon these people once he wins 2024 and is back in office, then why didn't he have the balls to do so while he was previously in office??
Another answer to your question was answered by the seditious traitors themselves: part of their defense was that Trump led them along with his lies and requests, then hung them out to dry when the tab came due.
Trump would never do that to anyone, amirite???
Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:
@Sidehatch You realize Trump could've already pardoned these offenders prior to him leaving office right? A Presidential pardon can apply to arrests/charges and not just guilty verdicts (see Nixon). So if your opinion is that he will pardon these people once he wins 2024 and is back in office, then why didn't he have the balls to do so while he was previously in office??
Another answer to your question was answered by the seditious traitors themselves: part of their defense was that Trump led them along with his lies and requests, then hung them out to dry when the tab came due.
This 'perspicacious' analysis being brought to you by the fellow that cannot articulate exactly how his taxes 'went up' under Trump.
Oh I can and I already have you disingenuous liar, Trump killed the most popular SALT tax credit that had been around for 40+ years. Great job! How many times do I have to tell you? Oh yeah, I remember - every time you forget your meds. Bravo!
Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
This 'perspicacious' analysis being brought to you by the fellow that cannot articulate exactly how his taxes 'went up' under Trump.
Oh I can and I already have you disingenuous liar, Trump killed the most popular SALT tax credit that had been around for 40+ years. Great job! How many times do I have to tell you? Oh yeah, I remember - every time you forget your meds. Bravo!
Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg: @Sidehatch You realize Trump could've already pardoned these offenders prior to him leaving office right? A Presidential pardon can apply to arrests/charges and not just guilty verdicts (see Nixon). So if your opinion is that he will pardon these people once he wins 2024 and is back in office, then why didn't he have the balls to do so while he was previously in office??
Wow, you sure do lack the mental capacity to understand how the legal system there works, lil unAmerican buddy! It’s probably because you don’t live in the states, as you’ve so frequently mentioned. Regardless of the reason for your blissful ignorance, a president can’t pardon people from future charges - they can only pardon charges that exist (and sometimes events that occurred) while they’re in office. Here, Trump didn’t know who would be charged with what during his last days in office, and probably didn’t foresee charges for seditious conspiracy because he is a blithering idiot who has no knowledge about the law. (He arguably only has disrespect for the law, which is why the fascist opposes free and fair elections.) Even if he could have pardoned traitors like Tarrio, that would require him to acknowledge that he knew exactly who the traitors were. (You have to be specific about who you are pardoning after all.) That would destroy his lame excuse that he didn’t know who the seditious traitors were, which is the lame excuse he always cites in any case where he’s a defendant. Glad to open your eyes Lil Buddy! #themoreyouknow
@Sidehatch
Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:
Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg: @Sidehatch You realize Trump could've already pardoned these offenders prior to him leaving office right? A Presidential pardon can apply to arrests/charges and not just guilty verdicts (see Nixon). So if your opinion is that he will pardon these people once he wins 2024 and is back in office, then why didn't he have the balls to do so while he was previously in office??
Wow, you sure do lack the mental capacity to understand how the legal system there works, lil unAmerican buddy! It’s probably because you don’t live in the states, as you’ve so frequently mentioned. Regardless of the reason for your blissful ignorance, a president can’t pardon people from future charges - they can only pardon charges that exist (and sometimes events that occurred) while they’re in office. Here, Trump didn’t know who would be charged with what during his last days in office, and probably didn’t foresee charges for seditious conspiracy because he is a blithering idiot who has no knowledge about the law. (He arguably only has disrespect for the law, which is why the fascist opposes free and fair elections.) Even if he could have pardoned traitors like Tarrio, that would require him to acknowledge that he knew exactly who the traitors were. (You have to be specific about who you are pardoning after all.) That would destroy his lame excuse that he didn’t know who the seditious traitors were, which is the lame excuse he always cites in any case where he’s a defendant. Glad to open your eyes Lil Buddy! #themoreyouknow
Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: This 'perspicacious' analysis being brought to you by the fellow that cannot articulate exactly how his taxes 'went up' under Trump. Oh I can and I already have you disingenuous liar, Trump killed the most popular SALT tax credit that had been around for 40+ years. Great job! How many times do I have to tell you? Oh yeah, I remember - every time you forget your meds. Bravo!
Yep. But again, not as much as you say. And it was not your income taxes that were 'raised'.
I asked you repeatedly what your guys found and you now claim it was just the SALT?
Maybe you are the one that forgot his meds. Nice try.
@Sidehatch
Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:
Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: This 'perspicacious' analysis being brought to you by the fellow that cannot articulate exactly how his taxes 'went up' under Trump. Oh I can and I already have you disingenuous liar, Trump killed the most popular SALT tax credit that had been around for 40+ years. Great job! How many times do I have to tell you? Oh yeah, I remember - every time you forget your meds. Bravo!
Yep. But again, not as much as you say. And it was not your income taxes that were 'raised'.
I asked you repeatedly what your guys found and you now claim it was just the SALT?
Maybe you are the one that forgot his meds. Nice try.
Read this and understand how this is not 'raising' your taxes. But now you Democrats want to uncap it. Everyone on the Left say they want to do away with 'loopholes' that help the rich. But when it is done the Democrats are up in arms and want it uncapped -- which greatly benefit the rich and the ultra-rich. But the Left want the rich to 'pay their fair share' -- until they realize that might include them. If you are doing that well you should not get mad at Trump for trying to help the middle class out, after all, that is what the Left is always going on about.
Glad to see you finally 'acknowledge' that your income tax rate did not go up but it was a clearing up of the tax system to help the average guy that affected you.
Read this and understand how this is not 'raising' your taxes. But now you Democrats want to uncap it. Everyone on the Left say they want to do away with 'loopholes' that help the rich. But when it is done the Democrats are up in arms and want it uncapped -- which greatly benefit the rich and the ultra-rich. But the Left want the rich to 'pay their fair share' -- until they realize that might include them. If you are doing that well you should not get mad at Trump for trying to help the middle class out, after all, that is what the Left is always going on about.
Glad to see you finally 'acknowledge' that your income tax rate did not go up but it was a clearing up of the tax system to help the average guy that affected you.
Another answer to your question was answered by the seditious traitors themselves: part of their defense was that Trump led them along with his lies and requests, then hung them out to dry when the tab came due. Trump would never do that to anyone, amirite???
Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:
Another answer to your question was answered by the seditious traitors themselves: part of their defense was that Trump led them along with his lies and requests, then hung them out to dry when the tab came due. Trump would never do that to anyone, amirite???
Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Lib DA's around the country pardon criminals on a daily basis & you're worried about THIS? Yeah, some of us care about the Constitution, democracy, and free and fair elections. Call me old fashioned!
Typical lib hypocrisy.
Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:
Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Lib DA's around the country pardon criminals on a daily basis & you're worried about THIS? Yeah, some of us care about the Constitution, democracy, and free and fair elections. Call me old fashioned!
Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: This 'perspicacious' analysis being brought to you by the fellow that cannot articulate exactly how his taxes 'went up' under Trump.
Oh I can and I already have you disingenuous liar, Trump killed the most popular SALT tax credit that had been around for 40+ years. Great job! How many times do I have to tell you? Oh yeah, I remember - every time you forget your meds. Bravo!
Wasn't one of Trump's very few good moves that's for sure.
Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:
Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: This 'perspicacious' analysis being brought to you by the fellow that cannot articulate exactly how his taxes 'went up' under Trump.
Oh I can and I already have you disingenuous liar, Trump killed the most popular SALT tax credit that had been around for 40+ years. Great job! How many times do I have to tell you? Oh yeah, I remember - every time you forget your meds. Bravo!
Wasn't one of Trump's very few good moves that's for sure.
Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: This 'perspicacious' analysis being brought to you by the fellow that cannot articulate exactly how his taxes 'went up' under Trump. Oh I can and I already have you disingenuous liar, Trump killed the most popular SALT tax credit that had been around for 40+ years. Great job! How many times do I have to tell you? Oh yeah, I remember - every time you forget your meds. Bravo! Wasn't one of Trump's very few good moves that's for sure.
Why not, exactly? Unless, you are for the rich and against the middle class?
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: This 'perspicacious' analysis being brought to you by the fellow that cannot articulate exactly how his taxes 'went up' under Trump. Oh I can and I already have you disingenuous liar, Trump killed the most popular SALT tax credit that had been around for 40+ years. Great job! How many times do I have to tell you? Oh yeah, I remember - every time you forget your meds. Bravo! Wasn't one of Trump's very few good moves that's for sure.
Why not, exactly? Unless, you are for the rich and against the middle class?
Wasn't one of Trump's very few good moves that's for sure.
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