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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 4:11 PM ET #151

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    This is amusing to see you deflect and soften his claim, it was his claim and his promise and that was not anything about MORE. I know you instructed me that you are not interested in examples even if they are perfectly applicable and on point, no we cannot have examples to give reference...we are in the business of deflect and deny versus holding someone accountable. That said...another droning example which is spot on point to the level of excellence and it has to do with me personally. I installed solar panels over ten years ago and with that I signed a 25 year agreement with the power supplier down here where my production is net metered and that means I do not have to count intraday usage and then credit intra day supply my system creates it is a net situation which benefits them and it in ways benefits me but also does not benefit me. When I installed the solar I was producing probably 75-80% of my usage but with this agreement the power company has a reconciliation date for all production which is May 31st. They total all my excess production and give me a bill credit based on WHOLESALE average elec costs for them. Where that is good is I get a bill credit but where it is bad is I cannot carry forward into the USE months which are June to Nov where I produce less than I consume. So they pay me wholesale on what I stored up and then come summer I pay peak massive rates on any usage which of course is WHY they do it. Anyhoo...a few years ago I upgraded my panels to increase production and now I produce MORE than I consume, so using your logic this means I am energy independent right? WRONG...I participate with the net metering program and even though I produce MORE than I consume I still have a bill for two months of the year because of my participation with the utility in my area. Same goes with the outright and blatant lie about energy independence. We never will be energy independent and it does not matter that we produce MORE than we consume because prices that the US consumer pays is based on participation in global markets. Oil prices and thus gas prices are directly tied to world markets and the cartel even IF we allegedly produce more than we consume. Trump obviously does not understand market dynamics and truths to the point of spewing lies about this and about every other promise he made. I do not believe out of touch clowns so whatever he said I knew was a flat out lie meant to get votes and this entire thread about Trump being able to cut 50% off of production costs, for Trump to cut gas prices, grocery prices, inflation on the FIRST DAY, for Trump to promise a two sided coin is just part of his platform of deception and fraud.

     

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    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    This is amusing to see you deflect and soften his claim, it was his claim and his promise and that was not anything about MORE. I know you instructed me that you are not interested in examples even if they are perfectly applicable and on point, no we cannot have examples to give reference...we are in the business of deflect and deny versus holding someone accountable. That said...another droning example which is spot on point to the level of excellence and it has to do with me personally. I installed solar panels over ten years ago and with that I signed a 25 year agreement with the power supplier down here where my production is net metered and that means I do not have to count intraday usage and then credit intra day supply my system creates it is a net situation which benefits them and it in ways benefits me but also does not benefit me. When I installed the solar I was producing probably 75-80% of my usage but with this agreement the power company has a reconciliation date for all production which is May 31st. They total all my excess production and give me a bill credit based on WHOLESALE average elec costs for them. Where that is good is I get a bill credit but where it is bad is I cannot carry forward into the USE months which are June to Nov where I produce less than I consume. So they pay me wholesale on what I stored up and then come summer I pay peak massive rates on any usage which of course is WHY they do it. Anyhoo...a few years ago I upgraded my panels to increase production and now I produce MORE than I consume, so using your logic this means I am energy independent right? WRONG...I participate with the net metering program and even though I produce MORE than I consume I still have a bill for two months of the year because of my participation with the utility in my area. Same goes with the outright and blatant lie about energy independence. We never will be energy independent and it does not matter that we produce MORE than we consume because prices that the US consumer pays is based on participation in global markets. Oil prices and thus gas prices are directly tied to world markets and the cartel even IF we allegedly produce more than we consume. Trump obviously does not understand market dynamics and truths to the point of spewing lies about this and about every other promise he made. I do not believe out of touch clowns so whatever he said I knew was a flat out lie meant to get votes and this entire thread about Trump being able to cut 50% off of production costs, for Trump to cut gas prices, grocery prices, inflation on the FIRST DAY, for Trump to promise a two sided coin is just part of his platform of deception and fraud.

     

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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 5:14 PM ET #152

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @wallstreetcappers  This is amusing to see you deflect and soften his claim, it was his claim and his promise and that was not anything about MORE A quick general search says, yes. Yes — by standard U.S. government definitions, the United States is currently energy independent in the sense that it produces more energy (in total) than it consumes and exports more energy than it imports. So, no matter how much you nitpick it -- this is one issue he was correct on.

     

    HIS claim Raiders...not your deflection. Can you address his claim and not some lawyer ball excuse? Do you understand the definition of independence? I do not think so with your repeated failed attempts to validate HIS claim. The US could produce 2X of our consumption and guess what, it does not make us ENERGY INDEPENDENT. The single way to validate Trump's claim is to isolate and stop participating in global markets, that would mean for the US to take over all of the production from our capitalistic companies and own it and control it all. Then we are independent, nothing else matters even a 5X production.

     In a sense is what exactly, sorta kinda maybe wishy washy lawyer ball garbage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @wallstreetcappers  This is amusing to see you deflect and soften his claim, it was his claim and his promise and that was not anything about MORE A quick general search says, yes. Yes — by standard U.S. government definitions, the United States is currently energy independent in the sense that it produces more energy (in total) than it consumes and exports more energy than it imports. So, no matter how much you nitpick it -- this is one issue he was correct on.

     

    HIS claim Raiders...not your deflection. Can you address his claim and not some lawyer ball excuse? Do you understand the definition of independence? I do not think so with your repeated failed attempts to validate HIS claim. The US could produce 2X of our consumption and guess what, it does not make us ENERGY INDEPENDENT. The single way to validate Trump's claim is to isolate and stop participating in global markets, that would mean for the US to take over all of the production from our capitalistic companies and own it and control it all. Then we are independent, nothing else matters even a 5X production.

     In a sense is what exactly, sorta kinda maybe wishy washy lawyer ball garbage?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 5:23 PM ET #153

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     Yes, his claim is correct peace_5

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     Yes, his claim is correct peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 5:38 PM ET #154

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @wallstreetcappers  Yes, his claim is correct

    Ya....

    an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @wallstreetcappers  Yes, his claim is correct

    Ya....

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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 6:11 PM ET #155

    Gas prices are lower -- bottom line.

    That is what the thread was about; nothing more, nothing less

    peace_5

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    Gas prices are lower -- bottom line.

    That is what the thread was about; nothing more, nothing less

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 6:35 PM ET #156

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Gas prices are lower -- bottom line. That is what the thread was about; nothing more, nothing less

    Ya...

    an_popcorn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Gas prices are lower -- bottom line. That is what the thread was about; nothing more, nothing less

    Ya...

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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2026 - 10:43 AM ET #157

    After a complete year of gas prices being lower every month (in 2025) than the corresponding month from the previous year (in 2024) — this year is starting out lower as well.

     

    Jan ‘25   3.076

    Jan ‘26   2.809

     

    The early look at Feb is:

     

    Feb ‘25   3.121

    Feb ‘26   2.908

     

    It will be interesting to see how this holds up heading into the summer with potential issues in the MENA region.

     

    This might be something worth keeping an eye on for some potential plays.

    an_light

    Hopefully nothing flares up and there will just be reasonable gas prices during the busy season. peace_5

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    After a complete year of gas prices being lower every month (in 2025) than the corresponding month from the previous year (in 2024) — this year is starting out lower as well.

     

    Jan ‘25   3.076

    Jan ‘26   2.809

     

    The early look at Feb is:

     

    Feb ‘25   3.121

    Feb ‘26   2.908

     

    It will be interesting to see how this holds up heading into the summer with potential issues in the MENA region.

     

    This might be something worth keeping an eye on for some potential plays.

    an_light

    Hopefully nothing flares up and there will just be reasonable gas prices during the busy season. peace_5

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