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    DUFL - Racist Shooting Massacre on May 14, 2022 in Buffalo, New York

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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 8:48 AM ET #151

    A rational defense of lockdown policies would've been: the severe harms they cause are outweighed by the benefits.

    Instead, it was taboo even to note harms of COVID policies. Any attempt to argue against maximalist restrictions resulted in accusations of COVID denialism.

    Children’s learning loss in the pandemic isn’t just in reading and math. It’s also in social and emotional skills. In a New York Times survey of 362 school counselors across the US, they said students are behind in abilities to learn, cope and relate.

     

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    A rational defense of lockdown policies would've been: the severe harms they cause are outweighed by the benefits.

    Instead, it was taboo even to note harms of COVID policies. Any attempt to argue against maximalist restrictions resulted in accusations of COVID denialism.

    Children’s learning loss in the pandemic isn’t just in reading and math. It’s also in social and emotional skills. In a New York Times survey of 362 school counselors across the US, they said students are behind in abilities to learn, cope and relate.

     

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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 8:51 AM ET #152

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Far more Americans died under Biden than under Trump

    ....because of the massive pandemic trump downplayed and allowed to take hold in every corner of the nation while encouraging half the nation to distrust public health authorities and try injecting bleach instead

     

                         sleep2

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Far more Americans died under Biden than under Trump

    ....because of the massive pandemic trump downplayed and allowed to take hold in every corner of the nation while encouraging half the nation to distrust public health authorities and try injecting bleach instead

     

                         sleep2

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 8:55 AM ET #153

    As archived in history, there was no "national lockdown" in the US during covid at any time.

    Each state and territory was free to decide for themselves 

    sleep2

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    As archived in history, there was no "national lockdown" in the US during covid at any time.

    Each state and territory was free to decide for themselves 

    sleep2

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 9:04 AM ET #154

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    As archived in history, there was no "national lockdown" in the US during covid at any time. Each state and territory was free to decide for themselves

    Yes. 

    That’s why DeSantis is going to be the next President. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    As archived in history, there was no "national lockdown" in the US during covid at any time. Each state and territory was free to decide for themselves

    Yes. 

    That’s why DeSantis is going to be the next President. 

     

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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 9:07 AM ET #155

    an_police   Racist MAGA Lawmaker
    Now Under Investigation
    for Claiming Buffalo Shooting
    Was a False Flag

     

    Rolling Stone -

    The Arizona state Senate launched an ethics investigation into Wendy Rogers after the racist, far-right state lawmaker falsely suggested the mass shooting in Buffalo last Saturday was carried out by a government agent.

    The Arizona Senate, which is controlled by Republicans, voted 24 to 3 to launch an investigation into the comment. Rogers herself and two of her GOP accomplicess, Warren Petersen and Kelly Townsend, were the only three to vote against the probe.


    “Spewing hate and furthering racist comments is not what
     we should be here for,”  Senator Victoria Steele said.

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    an_police   Racist MAGA Lawmaker
    Now Under Investigation
    for Claiming Buffalo Shooting
    Was a False Flag

     

    Rolling Stone -

    The Arizona state Senate launched an ethics investigation into Wendy Rogers after the racist, far-right state lawmaker falsely suggested the mass shooting in Buffalo last Saturday was carried out by a government agent.

    The Arizona Senate, which is controlled by Republicans, voted 24 to 3 to launch an investigation into the comment. Rogers herself and two of her GOP accomplicess, Warren Petersen and Kelly Townsend, were the only three to vote against the probe.


    “Spewing hate and furthering racist comments is not what
     we should be here for,”  Senator Victoria Steele said.

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 9:08 AM ET #156

    8:51 AM ET — Trump’s policies are the reason why there were so many Covid deaths. 

    8:55 AM ET — Each state and territory was free to decide for themselves. 

    Same person. 

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    8:51 AM ET — Trump’s policies are the reason why there were so many Covid deaths. 

    8:55 AM ET — Each state and territory was free to decide for themselves. 

    Same person. 

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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 9:09 AM ET #157

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Racist MAGA Lawmaker Now Under Investigation for Claiming Buffalo Shooting Was a False Flag   Rolling Stone - The Arizona state Senate launched an ethics investigation into Wendy Rogers after the racist, far-right state lawmaker falsely suggested the mass shooting in Buffalo last Saturday was carried out by a government agent. The Arizona Senate, which is controlled by Republicans, voted 24 to 3 to launch an investigation into the comment. Rogers herself and two of her GOP accomplicess, Warren Petersen and Kelly Townsend, were the only three to vote against the probe. “Spewing hate and furthering racist comments is not what  we should be here for,”  Senator Victoria Steele said.

     

    How is that racist? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Racist MAGA Lawmaker Now Under Investigation for Claiming Buffalo Shooting Was a False Flag   Rolling Stone - The Arizona state Senate launched an ethics investigation into Wendy Rogers after the racist, far-right state lawmaker falsely suggested the mass shooting in Buffalo last Saturday was carried out by a government agent. The Arizona Senate, which is controlled by Republicans, voted 24 to 3 to launch an investigation into the comment. Rogers herself and two of her GOP accomplicess, Warren Petersen and Kelly Townsend, were the only three to vote against the probe. “Spewing hate and furthering racist comments is not what  we should be here for,”  Senator Victoria Steele said.

     

    How is that racist? 

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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 9:13 AM ET #158

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    As archived in history, there was no "national lockdown" in the US during covid at any time. Each state and territory was free to decide for themselves

     

    Funny a "dictator" would allow that. an_light

    Shoots that bullcrap claim right in the arse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    As archived in history, there was no "national lockdown" in the US during covid at any time. Each state and territory was free to decide for themselves

     

    Funny a "dictator" would allow that. an_light

    Shoots that bullcrap claim right in the arse.

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 9:16 AM ET #159

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    an_police   Racist MAGA Lawmaker
    Now Under Investigation
    for Claiming Buffalo Shooting
    Was a False Flag

     

    Rolling Stone -

    The Arizona state Senate launched an ethics investigation into Wendy Rogers after the racist, far-right state lawmaker falsely suggested the mass shooting in Buffalo last Saturday was carried out by a government agent.

    The Arizona Senate, which is controlled by Republicans, voted 24 to 3 to launch an investigation into the comment. Rogers herself and two of her GOP accomplicess, Warren Petersen and Kelly Townsend, were the only three to vote against the probe.


    “Spewing hate and furthering racist comments is not what
     we should be here for,”  Senator Victoria Steele said.

     

    Rogers’ trafficking of white nationalist talking points isn’t new. “We are being replaced and invaded,” she wrote on Twitter last summer while linking to a Breitbart story on migrant apprehensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    an_police   Racist MAGA Lawmaker
    Now Under Investigation
    for Claiming Buffalo Shooting
    Was a False Flag

     

    Rolling Stone -

    The Arizona state Senate launched an ethics investigation into Wendy Rogers after the racist, far-right state lawmaker falsely suggested the mass shooting in Buffalo last Saturday was carried out by a government agent.

    The Arizona Senate, which is controlled by Republicans, voted 24 to 3 to launch an investigation into the comment. Rogers herself and two of her GOP accomplicess, Warren Petersen and Kelly Townsend, were the only three to vote against the probe.


    “Spewing hate and furthering racist comments is not what
     we should be here for,”  Senator Victoria Steele said.

     

    Rogers’ trafficking of white nationalist talking points isn’t new. “We are being replaced and invaded,” she wrote on Twitter last summer while linking to a Breitbart story on migrant apprehensions.

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 9:30 AM ET #160

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Rogers’ trafficking of white nationalist talking points isn’t new. “We are being replaced and invaded,” she wrote on Twitter last summer while linking to a Breitbart story on migrant apprehensions.

    Why are you misquoting her? This is what she tweeted: 

    “We Americans who love this country are being replaced by people who do not love this country. I will not back down from this statement. Communists & our enemies are using mass immigration, education, big tech, big corporations & other strategies to accomplish this.”

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Rogers’ trafficking of white nationalist talking points isn’t new. “We are being replaced and invaded,” she wrote on Twitter last summer while linking to a Breitbart story on migrant apprehensions.

    Why are you misquoting her? This is what she tweeted: 

    “We Americans who love this country are being replaced by people who do not love this country. I will not back down from this statement. Communists & our enemies are using mass immigration, education, big tech, big corporations & other strategies to accomplish this.”

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 9:34 AM ET #161

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    an_police   Racist MAGA Lawmaker
    Now Under Investigation
    for Claiming Buffalo Shooting
    Was a False Flag

     

    Rolling Stone -

    The Arizona state Senate launched an ethics investigation into Wendy Rogers after the racist, far-right state lawmaker falsely suggested the mass shooting in Buffalo last Saturday was carried out by a government agent.

    The Arizona Senate, which is controlled by Republicans, voted 24 to 3 to launch an investigation into the comment. Rogers herself and two of her GOP accomplicess, Warren Petersen and Kelly Townsend, were the only three to vote against the probe.


    “Spewing hate and furthering racist comments is not what
     we should be here for,”  Senator Victoria Steele said.

    .

    ROLLING STONE -   continued ...

       The Buffalo shooter was motivated to act in part by
    Tucker Carlson's “great replacement theory,” which holds that
    white people are being systematically replaced by immigrants,
    and which has been promoted not just on far-right forums but
    by prominent Republicans in Washington, D.C., and by Fox News.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    an_police   Racist MAGA Lawmaker
    Now Under Investigation
    for Claiming Buffalo Shooting
    Was a False Flag

     

    Rolling Stone -

    The Arizona state Senate launched an ethics investigation into Wendy Rogers after the racist, far-right state lawmaker falsely suggested the mass shooting in Buffalo last Saturday was carried out by a government agent.

    The Arizona Senate, which is controlled by Republicans, voted 24 to 3 to launch an investigation into the comment. Rogers herself and two of her GOP accomplicess, Warren Petersen and Kelly Townsend, were the only three to vote against the probe.


    “Spewing hate and furthering racist comments is not what
     we should be here for,”  Senator Victoria Steele said.

    .

    ROLLING STONE -   continued ...

       The Buffalo shooter was motivated to act in part by
    Tucker Carlson's “great replacement theory,” which holds that
    white people are being systematically replaced by immigrants,
    and which has been promoted not just on far-right forums but
    by prominent Republicans in Washington, D.C., and by Fox News.

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 9:45 AM ET #162

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    8:51 AM ET — Trump’s policies are the reason why there were so many Covid deaths. 

    8:55 AM ET — Each state and territory was free to decide for themselves. 

    Same person.

    Yup, so what don't you understand?

    Both the above statements are based in fact.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    8:51 AM ET — Trump’s policies are the reason why there were so many Covid deaths. 

    8:55 AM ET — Each state and territory was free to decide for themselves. 

    Same person.

    Yup, so what don't you understand?

    Both the above statements are based in fact.

     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2022 - 9:49 AM ET #163

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: @UNIMAN  $1 bail sounds like fake news but it's neither here nor there to the point of your post. https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/City-Court-judge-sets-1-bail-for-Albany-murder-16208182.php https://cbs6albany.com/news/local/law-enforcement-leaders-angered-after-bail-set-at-1-for-man-charged-in-albany-homicide https://wnyt.com/albany-new-york-news/bail-set-at-1-dollar-for-albany-homicide-suspect-jhajuan-sabb/6124967/ ONE QUICK GOOGLE ANSWERS THAT QUESTION YET YOU CHOSE TO POST "SOUNDS LIKE FAKE NEWS." Hmmm.

    Answers what question? I didn't ask any question. I said it sounded like fake news but that even if so, it still wouldn't discredit your point. Why would I Google something that has no real bearing on the point being made?

    Since you were so insistent though, I did read through your links. Did you? It was fake news. You said, and this is a direct quote, "A murderer in New York gets out on $1 bail."

    Did you read your own links or did you Google some headlines and post them? The dude didn't get out of anything. He's still in custody. It was a tricky scenario where he's brought in, for local charges but also held of Federal parole violations. With new bail reforms, a defendant can ask for bail to be set, locally, while sitting on the Federal charges, simply so that you are receiving credit for the time you are serving. That bail can be a token denomination, like a dollar. It's not meant for violent crimes, and the judge simply misunderstood the new law. This particular judge didn't even have the authority to set bail in such a case. It was a mistake but not a miscarriage in judgement, as the dude is still in custody.

    Now, in theory, if the feds decide that one count of murder, and five counts of attempted murder doesn't violate his parole, and the case gets kicked back to local, in theory he could bail out for $1 but you said he was out on $1. And yes, my friend, that is fake news. Don't shoot the messenger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: @UNIMAN  $1 bail sounds like fake news but it's neither here nor there to the point of your post. https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/City-Court-judge-sets-1-bail-for-Albany-murder-16208182.php https://cbs6albany.com/news/local/law-enforcement-leaders-angered-after-bail-set-at-1-for-man-charged-in-albany-homicide https://wnyt.com/albany-new-york-news/bail-set-at-1-dollar-for-albany-homicide-suspect-jhajuan-sabb/6124967/ ONE QUICK GOOGLE ANSWERS THAT QUESTION YET YOU CHOSE TO POST "SOUNDS LIKE FAKE NEWS." Hmmm.

    Answers what question? I didn't ask any question. I said it sounded like fake news but that even if so, it still wouldn't discredit your point. Why would I Google something that has no real bearing on the point being made?

    Since you were so insistent though, I did read through your links. Did you? It was fake news. You said, and this is a direct quote, "A murderer in New York gets out on $1 bail."

    Did you read your own links or did you Google some headlines and post them? The dude didn't get out of anything. He's still in custody. It was a tricky scenario where he's brought in, for local charges but also held of Federal parole violations. With new bail reforms, a defendant can ask for bail to be set, locally, while sitting on the Federal charges, simply so that you are receiving credit for the time you are serving. That bail can be a token denomination, like a dollar. It's not meant for violent crimes, and the judge simply misunderstood the new law. This particular judge didn't even have the authority to set bail in such a case. It was a mistake but not a miscarriage in judgement, as the dude is still in custody.

    Now, in theory, if the feds decide that one count of murder, and five counts of attempted murder doesn't violate his parole, and the case gets kicked back to local, in theory he could bail out for $1 but you said he was out on $1. And yes, my friend, that is fake news. Don't shoot the messenger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: 8:51 AM ET — Trump’s policies are the reason why there were so many Covid deaths.  8:55 AM ET — Each state and territory was free to decide for themselves.  Same person. Yup, so what don't you understand? Both the above statements are based in fact.

    Are they? Which of Trump's policies were the reason for so many covid deaths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: 8:51 AM ET — Trump’s policies are the reason why there were so many Covid deaths.  8:55 AM ET — Each state and territory was free to decide for themselves.  Same person. Yup, so what don't you understand? Both the above statements are based in fact.

    Are they? Which of Trump's policies were the reason for so many covid deaths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    As archived in history, there was no "national lockdown" in the US during covid at any time. Each state and territory was free to decide for themselves

    I mean, that's how our government works, isn't it? I'm no expert but aren't their certain stipulations that must be met for a federal mandate? Time of war? I'm sincerely asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    As archived in history, there was no "national lockdown" in the US during covid at any time. Each state and territory was free to decide for themselves

    I mean, that's how our government works, isn't it? I'm no expert but aren't their certain stipulations that must be met for a federal mandate? Time of war? I'm sincerely asking.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Rogers’ trafficking of white nationalist talking points isn’t new. “We are being replaced and invaded,” she wrote on Twitter last summer while linking to a Breitbart story on migrant apprehensions. Why are you misquoting her? This is what she tweeted:  “We Americans who love this country are being replaced by people who do not love this country. I will not back down from this statement. Communists & our enemies are using mass immigration, education, big tech, big corporations & other strategies to accomplish this.”

    What gives her the authority to say who does and doesn't love America? Why is it that when one side complains about something, policy, etc, it is because they love America, and when another side complains, it is because they hate America? And if they hate America, they should leave. Does anyone else see the irony in this. The hypocrisy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Rogers’ trafficking of white nationalist talking points isn’t new. “We are being replaced and invaded,” she wrote on Twitter last summer while linking to a Breitbart story on migrant apprehensions. Why are you misquoting her? This is what she tweeted:  “We Americans who love this country are being replaced by people who do not love this country. I will not back down from this statement. Communists & our enemies are using mass immigration, education, big tech, big corporations & other strategies to accomplish this.”

    What gives her the authority to say who does and doesn't love America? Why is it that when one side complains about something, policy, etc, it is because they love America, and when another side complains, it is because they hate America? And if they hate America, they should leave. Does anyone else see the irony in this. The hypocrisy?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: @UNIMAN  $1 bail sounds like fake news but it's neither here nor there to the point of your post. https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/City-Court-judge-sets-1-bail-for-Albany-murder-16208182.php https://cbs6albany.com/news/local/law-enforcement-leaders-angered-after-bail-set-at-1-for-man-charged-in-albany-homicide https://wnyt.com/albany-new-york-news/bail-set-at-1-dollar-for-albany-homicide-suspect-jhajuan-sabb/6124967/ ONE QUICK GOOGLE ANSWERS THAT QUESTION YET YOU CHOSE TO POST "SOUNDS LIKE FAKE NEWS."

    Hmmm. Answers what question? I didn't ask any question. I said it sounded like fake news but that even if so, it still wouldn't discredit your point. Why would I Google something that has no real bearing on the point being made? Since you were so insistent though, I did read through your links. Did you? It was fake news. You said, and this is a direct quote, "A murderer in New York gets out on $1 bail." Did you read your own links or did you Google some headlines and post them? The dude didn't get out of anything. He's still in custody. It was a tricky scenario where he's brought in, for local charges but also held of Federal parole violations. With new bail reforms, a defendant can ask for bail to be set, locally, while sitting on the Federal charges, simply so that you are receiving credit for the time you are serving. That bail can be a token denomination, like a dollar. It's not meant for violent crimes, and the judge simply misunderstood the new law. This particular judge didn't even have the authority to set bail in such a case. It was a mistake but not a miscarriage in judgement, as the dude is still in custody. Now, in theory, if the feds decide that one count of murder, and five counts of attempted murder doesn't violate his parole, and the case gets kicked back to local, in theory he could bail out for $1,  but you said he was out on $1.

    And yes, my friend, that is fake news. Don't shoot the messenger.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: @UNIMAN  $1 bail sounds like fake news but it's neither here nor there to the point of your post. https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/City-Court-judge-sets-1-bail-for-Albany-murder-16208182.php https://cbs6albany.com/news/local/law-enforcement-leaders-angered-after-bail-set-at-1-for-man-charged-in-albany-homicide https://wnyt.com/albany-new-york-news/bail-set-at-1-dollar-for-albany-homicide-suspect-jhajuan-sabb/6124967/ ONE QUICK GOOGLE ANSWERS THAT QUESTION YET YOU CHOSE TO POST "SOUNDS LIKE FAKE NEWS."

    Hmmm. Answers what question? I didn't ask any question. I said it sounded like fake news but that even if so, it still wouldn't discredit your point. Why would I Google something that has no real bearing on the point being made? Since you were so insistent though, I did read through your links. Did you? It was fake news. You said, and this is a direct quote, "A murderer in New York gets out on $1 bail." Did you read your own links or did you Google some headlines and post them? The dude didn't get out of anything. He's still in custody. It was a tricky scenario where he's brought in, for local charges but also held of Federal parole violations. With new bail reforms, a defendant can ask for bail to be set, locally, while sitting on the Federal charges, simply so that you are receiving credit for the time you are serving. That bail can be a token denomination, like a dollar. It's not meant for violent crimes, and the judge simply misunderstood the new law. This particular judge didn't even have the authority to set bail in such a case. It was a mistake but not a miscarriage in judgement, as the dude is still in custody. Now, in theory, if the feds decide that one count of murder, and five counts of attempted murder doesn't violate his parole, and the case gets kicked back to local, in theory he could bail out for $1,  but you said he was out on $1.

    And yes, my friend, that is fake news. Don't shoot the messenger.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    What gives her the authority to say who does and doesn't love America?

    What gives her the authority to have an opinion? I don’t know, the Constitution? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    What gives her the authority to say who does and doesn't love America?

    What gives her the authority to have an opinion? I don’t know, the Constitution? 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: What gives her the authority to say who does and doesn't love America? What gives her the authority to have an opinion? I don’t know, the Constitution?

    People state their opinions as if it is gospel. And when said people are given a public platform, when said people are elected officials, this becomes very dangerous. When was the last time one of these politicians, on either side, prefaced their inflammatory and divisive statements with, "I am of the opinion..."?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: What gives her the authority to say who does and doesn't love America? What gives her the authority to have an opinion? I don’t know, the Constitution?

    People state their opinions as if it is gospel. And when said people are given a public platform, when said people are elected officials, this becomes very dangerous. When was the last time one of these politicians, on either side, prefaced their inflammatory and divisive statements with, "I am of the opinion..."?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: What gives her the authority to say who does and doesn't love America? What gives her the authority to have an opinion? I don’t know, the Constitution? People state their opinions as if it is gospel. And when said people are given a public platform, when said people are elected officials, this becomes very dangerous. When was the last time one of these politicians, on either side, prefaced their inflammatory and divisive statements with, "I am of the opinion..."?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: What gives her the authority to say who does and doesn't love America? What gives her the authority to have an opinion? I don’t know, the Constitution? People state their opinions as if it is gospel. And when said people are given a public platform, when said people are elected officials, this becomes very dangerous. When was the last time one of these politicians, on either side, prefaced their inflammatory and divisive statements with, "I am of the opinion..."?

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    an_police   Racist MAGA Lawmaker
    Now Under Investigation
    for Claiming Buffalo Shooting
    Was a False Flag

    ROLLING STONE -   continued ...   

    The Buffalo shooter was motivated to act in part by Tucker Carlson's “great replacement theory,” which holds that white people are being systematically replaced by immigrants, and which has been promoted not just on far-right forums but by prominent Republicans in Washington, D.C., and by Fox News.

    ROLLING STONE - continued ...

    This isn’t the first time the Arizona state Senate has 
    taken action against Wendy Rogers, either.
    She was censured last March after THREATENING her colleagues,
    who criticized her for delivering a video address at America First PAC,
    a White Nationalist conference. an_light


    Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona and Idaho Lt. Gov. Janice McGeachin
    did the same, while Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene cheerfully
    spoke at that event IN PERSON!

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/2m9z22ps

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    an_police   Racist MAGA Lawmaker
    Now Under Investigation
    for Claiming Buffalo Shooting
    Was a False Flag

    ROLLING STONE -   continued ...   

    The Buffalo shooter was motivated to act in part by Tucker Carlson's “great replacement theory,” which holds that white people are being systematically replaced by immigrants, and which has been promoted not just on far-right forums but by prominent Republicans in Washington, D.C., and by Fox News.

    ROLLING STONE - continued ...

    This isn’t the first time the Arizona state Senate has 
    taken action against Wendy Rogers, either.
    She was censured last March after THREATENING her colleagues,
    who criticized her for delivering a video address at America First PAC,
    a White Nationalist conference. an_light


    Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona and Idaho Lt. Gov. Janice McGeachin
    did the same, while Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene cheerfully
    spoke at that event IN PERSON!

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/2m9z22ps

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: What gives her the authority to say who does and doesn't love America? What gives her the authority to have an opinion? I don’t know, the Constitution? People state their opinions as if it is gospel. And when said people are given a public platform, when said people are elected officials, this becomes very dangerous. When was the last time one of these politicians, on either side, prefaced their inflammatory and divisive statements with, "I am of the opinion..."?

    It would be kind of silly to say that every time we give an opinion. Not very good for engagement either. 

    “Yes, men can get pregnant!”, Just hits harder than, “I am of the opinion that men can become pregnant”. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: What gives her the authority to say who does and doesn't love America? What gives her the authority to have an opinion? I don’t know, the Constitution? People state their opinions as if it is gospel. And when said people are given a public platform, when said people are elected officials, this becomes very dangerous. When was the last time one of these politicians, on either side, prefaced their inflammatory and divisive statements with, "I am of the opinion..."?

    It would be kind of silly to say that every time we give an opinion. Not very good for engagement either. 

    “Yes, men can get pregnant!”, Just hits harder than, “I am of the opinion that men can become pregnant”. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: What gives her the authority to say who does and doesn't love America? What gives her the authority to have an opinion? I don’t know, the Constitution? People state their opinions as if it is gospel. And when said people are given a public platform, when said people are elected officials, this becomes very dangerous. When was the last time one of these politicians, on either side, prefaced their inflammatory and divisive statements with, "I am of the opinion..."?

    It would be kind of silly to say that every time we give an opinion. Not very good for engagement either.  “Yes, men can get pregnant!”, Just hits harder than, “I am of the opinion that men can become pregnant”.

    Who said "every" time???

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: What gives her the authority to say who does and doesn't love America? What gives her the authority to have an opinion? I don’t know, the Constitution? People state their opinions as if it is gospel. And when said people are given a public platform, when said people are elected officials, this becomes very dangerous. When was the last time one of these politicians, on either side, prefaced their inflammatory and divisive statements with, "I am of the opinion..."?

    It would be kind of silly to say that every time we give an opinion. Not very good for engagement either.  “Yes, men can get pregnant!”, Just hits harder than, “I am of the opinion that men can become pregnant”.

    Who said "every" time???

     
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    America First PAC isn’t a white nationalist conference lmao 

     

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    America First PAC isn’t a white nationalist conference lmao 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: What gives her the authority to say who does and doesn't love America? What gives her the authority to have an opinion? I don’t know, the Constitution? People state their opinions as if it is gospel. And when said people are given a public platform, when said people are elected officials, this becomes very dangerous. When was the last time one of these politicians, on either side, prefaced their inflammatory and divisive statements with, "I am of the opinion..."? It would be kind of silly to say that every time we give an opinion. Not very good for engagement either.  “Yes, men can get pregnant!”, Just hits harder than, “I am of the opinion that men can become pregnant”.

    Oh, it would be silly? It's not silly to vehemently make statements of opinion as if they are fact, even in some cases when the speaker of said statement knows it to be false? It's silly to say, "...this is my opinion." Not good for engagement. Doesn't hit as hard. Do you ever think that maybe statements need to hid less hard. Wouldn't that be better for engagement? For discourse. I guess if the goal is just to rile people up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: What gives her the authority to say who does and doesn't love America? What gives her the authority to have an opinion? I don’t know, the Constitution? People state their opinions as if it is gospel. And when said people are given a public platform, when said people are elected officials, this becomes very dangerous. When was the last time one of these politicians, on either side, prefaced their inflammatory and divisive statements with, "I am of the opinion..."? It would be kind of silly to say that every time we give an opinion. Not very good for engagement either.  “Yes, men can get pregnant!”, Just hits harder than, “I am of the opinion that men can become pregnant”.

    Oh, it would be silly? It's not silly to vehemently make statements of opinion as if they are fact, even in some cases when the speaker of said statement knows it to be false? It's silly to say, "...this is my opinion." Not good for engagement. Doesn't hit as hard. Do you ever think that maybe statements need to hid less hard. Wouldn't that be better for engagement? For discourse. I guess if the goal is just to rile people up...

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