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When he was running for president , Donald J. Trump embraced the hackers who had leaked Hillary Clinton’s emails to the press, declaring at a rally in Pennsylvania, “I love WikiLeaks!”

The crowds of deplorables cheered that night

this is the same guy who encouraged Russia to hack DNC and Hillary Clinton servers

“It’s been going on for a long time before me, but now it’s really going on,” Mr. Trump said of the leaks, accusing those who spread the information of “trying to cover up” for Mrs. Clinton’s loss in the election last year. He also added that there were “documents and papers that were illegally.

There is nothing legal about Wikileaks 

oh the irony 
 
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In an interview with Fox News’ “The O’Reilly Factor,”  candidate Trump attacked then-President Barack Obama for being “weak” and “ineffective” on issues of foreign policy. 

“I believe I know far more about foreign policy than he knows,” Trump said. “Look at Ukraine. He talks about Ukraine [and] how tough he is with Russia, in the meantime they took over Crimea.” 

Two weeks before President-elect Trump was inaugurated, he took to Facebook to explain how Russia will respect the U.S. again under his leadership. 

“Having a good relationship with Russia is a good thing, not a bad thing. Only ‘stupid’ people, or fools, would think that it is bad! We have enough problems around the world without yet another one. When I am President, Russia will respect us far more than they do now and both countries will, perhaps, work together to solve some of the many great and pressing problems and issues of the WORLD!” 


Fox News reported Tuesday that a Russian spy ship was spotted patrolling off the east coast of the United States. Officials say that the ship was seen 70 miles off the coast of Delaware and was moving north at 10 knots. 
 
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This is the third visit by the Vishnya-class Viktor Leonov an intelligence collection ship to the U.S. coast since 2014.

It has not entered U.S. territorial waters..........

Spokeswoman Lt. Col. Valerie Henderson. “We respect freedom of navigation exercised by all nations beyond the territorial sea of a coastal state consistent with international law.”
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

The real story here is not about Flynn ..It is the soft coup against President Trump by certain people in the ‘intelligence agencies....

The NSA is doing the collection on everybody inside the United States. Phone calls. e-mails,internet ..and the CIA and FBI both have access to the NSA’s database.

Some intel personal are leaking Government information to the press to damage President Trump..

e.i... The leaked conversation with the President of Mexico and the President of Australia..now Flynn's conversation with a Russian Ambassador.

These leaks by the intelligence community to the press are damaging to our national security and must be stopped..

Slim, why is it that you read/hear next to nothing about this from the MSM?
(rhetorical question)

Shouldn't liberals, who profess themselves to be champions of human rights, be outraged by this illegal intrusion into the POTUS's conversations? 

The left is putting forth the greatest effort in the history of this great country to completely and totally undermine a POTUS who is not even one month into his term. Most of these antics from the left are an affront to anyone who believes in the constitution. 

Free speech? ... only if you say with what we agree with
Right to privacy? ... only if you agree with our way of doing things
Right to religious freedom? ... only if we approve
Right to bear arms? ... guns kill people, it's not the fault of the felon pulling the trigger

Then there is the Obama led IRS targeting fiasco ...
If someone is not in lockstep with our beliefs, we will simply have our piranha-like government agencies go after them, and prohibit them from doing what they have the legal right to do. 

The left has become so blatant in their disregard for law and rights, and no one from the left seems to be bothered by any of it.


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Some political activity involves theatricality in order to make a larger point or to boost publicity for one's cause. This has been referred to as "political theatre" or "guerrilla theatre". In the United States, the Youth International Party in the late 1960s became widely associated with such gestures.


 
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Johnny Logan's act to pull off a phantom double play was outstanding,but he couldn't get away with it today because of the replay rule.
 
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Trump  claimed  that "he inherited a mess"  and the "dishonest media" is not giving  his presidency the credit it deserves..

what a joke ! 

You want to talk about mess Mr President

Let's go back to 20-January-2009 

Citing a Rasmussen poll, Trump told the assembled reporters and television viewers at home that his approval rating sits at 55 percent and climbing even though multiple other polls show him with historically low approval ratings for a president one month into his administration. He said the American public understands that his presidency has been a success thus far despite critical reports in the media.


https://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-inherited-mess-press-conference-235093
 
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Trump tells Jewish magazine's reporter to "sit down"  https://snpy.tv/2kDoNbn

In response to a question about threats to Jewish centers nationwide, Trump called a Jewish reporter a liar, told him to sit down and later said antisemitism was coming from "the other side."

The exchange kicked off as Trump looked through the room at his White House press conference and asked for an easy question from a "friendly" reporter who liked him.

The journalist identified himself as Jake Turx with Ami Magazine. Turx prefaced his question by saying he did not see evidence the President or his staff were antisemitic.

Here's the rest of the exchange:

Turx: "What we are concerned about, and what we haven't really heard being addressed, is an uptick in antisemitism and how the government is planning to take care of it."

Trump, interrupting: "See, he said he was going to ask a very simple, easy question, and it's not."

Turx: "It's an important one."

Trump: "Not a simple question. Not a fair question. Okay, sit down. I understand the rest of your question."
 
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James Comey knew about Flynn's illegal call to Russian Ambassador for over a month and kept it secret 

why ?
 
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Spies Keep Intelligence From Donald Trump on Leak Concerns

Decision to withhold information underscores deep mistrust between intelligence community and president

According to the Wall Street Journal

https://www.wsj.com/articles/spies-keep-intelligence-from-donald-trump-1487209351#livefyre-toggle-SB11767374695358703799704582624151639355844


 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

The real story here is not about Flynn ..It is the soft coup against President Trump by certain people in the ‘intelligence agencies....

The NSA is doing the collection on everybody inside the United States. Phone calls. e-mails,internet ..and the CIA and FBI both have access to the NSA’s database.

Some intel personal are leaking Government information to the press to damage President Trump..

e.i... The leaked conversation with the President of Mexico and the President of Australia..now Flynn's conversation with a Russian Ambassador.

These leaks by the intelligence community to the press are damaging to our national security and must be stopped..


How about his people getting info on the North Korea missle launch on their smart phones in front of guests at the golf course...  Oh wait, that was Donald Trump.        Using his unsecured Android phone nonetheless, probably made in China too  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

The real story here is not about Flynn ..It is the soft coup against President Trump by certain people in the ‘intelligence agencies....

The NSA is doing the collection on everybody inside the United States. Phone calls. e-mails,internet ..and the CIA and FBI both have access to the NSA’s database.

Some intel personal are leaking Government information to the press to damage President Trump..

e.i... The leaked conversation with the President of Mexico and the President of Australia..now Flynn's conversation with a Russian Ambassador.

These leaks by the intelligence community to the press are damaging to our national security and must be stopped..

Funny how leaks were not important back in Sept Oct and Nov but now all of a sudden they are. Personally I believe they are very important especially now with the fraud in chief in office.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

James Comey knew about Flynn's illegal call to Russian Ambassador for over a month and kept it secret 

why ?



I must have missed this one ...Director Comey claiming the call was illegal..I do remember,that the Bureau cleared Mike Flynn's call to Sergei Kislyak, Russia's ambassador ,,of wrongdoing..

If, you have a citation of the F.B.I. calling it an illegal call ..please post. Otherwise it is just more flaming fake news...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:




I must have missed this one ...Director Comey claiming the call was illegal..I do remember,that the Bureau cleared Mike Flynn's call to Sergei Kislyak, Russia's ambassador ,,of wrongdoing..

If, you have a citation of the F.B.I. calling it an illegal call ..please post. Otherwise it is just more flaming fake news...

1)  According to the Washington post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-department-warned-white-house-that-flynn-could-be-vulnerable-to-russian-blackmail-officials-say/2017/02/13/fc5dab88-f228-11e6-8d72-263470bf0401_story.html?utm_term=.a8ae60b8ca07

The acting attorney general informed the Trump White House late last month that she believed Michael Flynn had misled senior administration officials about the nature of his communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States, and warned that the national security adviser was potentially vulnerable to Russian blackmail, current and former U.S. officials said.

The message, delivered by Sally Q. Yates and a senior career national security official to the White House counsel, was prompted by concerns that ­Flynn, when asked about his calls and texts with the ­Russian diplomat, had told Vice ­President-elect Mike Pence and others that he had not discussed the Obama administration sanctions on Russia for its interference in the 2016 election, the officials said. It is unclear what the White House counsel, Donald McGahn, did with the ­information.

In a Feb. 8 interview with The Washington Post, Flynn categorically denied discussing sanctions with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, repeating public assertions made in January by top Trump officials. One day after the interview, Flynn revised his account, telling The Post through a spokesman that he “couldn’t be certain that the topic never came up.”


The internal debate over how to handle the intelligence on Flynn and Kislyak came to a head on Jan. 19, Obama’s last full day in office.

Yates, Clapper and Brennan argued for briefing the incoming administration so the new president could decide how to deal with the matter. The officials discussed options, including telling Pence, the incoming White House counsel, the incoming chief of staff or Trump himself.

FBI Director James B. Comey initially opposed notification, citing concerns that it could complicate the agency’s ­investigation.

Clapper and Brennan left their positions when Trump was sworn in, but Yates stayed on as acting attorney general until Jan. 30, when Trump fired her for refusing to defend his executive order temporarily barring refugees and people from seven majority-Muslim countries — an action that had been challenged in court.

A turning point came after Jan. 23, when Spicer, in his first official media briefing, again was asked about Flynn’s communications with Kislyak. Spicer said that he had talked to Flynn about the issue “again last night.” There was just “one call,” Spicer said. And it covered four subjects: a plane crash that claimed the lives of a Russian military choir; Christmas greetings; Russian-led talks over the Syrian civil war; and the logistics of setting up a call between Putin and Trump. Spicer said that was the extent of the conversation.

Yates again raised the issue with Comey, who now backed away from his opposition to informing the White House. Yates and the senior career national security official spoke to McGahn, the White House counsel, who didn’t respond Monday to a request for comment.


2)  Mike Flynn Was Probed by FBI Over Calls With Russian Official

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mike-flynn-was-probed-by-fbi-over-calls-with-russian-official-1487123221
 
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almost four weeks into all this fun....
 
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lets see 52 weeks a year for four years... 196 weeks to go.

at least it is a it more entertaining.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


1)  According to the Washington post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-department-warned-white-house-that-flynn-could-be-vulnerable-to-russian-blackmail-officials-say/2017/02/13/fc5dab88-f228-11e6-8d72-263470bf0401_story.html?utm_term=.a8ae60b8ca07

The acting attorney general informed the Trump White House late last month that she believed Michael Flynn had misled senior administration officials about the nature of his communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States, and warned that the national security adviser was potentially vulnerable to Russian blackmail, current and former U.S. officials said.

The message, delivered by Sally Q. Yates and a senior career national security official to the White House counsel, was prompted by concerns that ­Flynn, when asked about his calls and texts with the ­Russian diplomat, had told Vice ­President-elect Mike Pence and others that he had not discussed the Obama administration sanctions on Russia for its interference in the 2016 election, the officials said. It is unclear what the White House counsel, Donald McGahn, did with the ­information.

In a Feb. 8 interview with The Washington Post, Flynn categorically denied discussing sanctions with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, repeating public assertions made in January by top Trump officials. One day after the interview, Flynn revised his account, telling The Post through a spokesman that he “couldn’t be certain that the topic never came up.”


The internal debate over how to handle the intelligence on Flynn and Kislyak came to a head on Jan. 19, Obama’s last full day in office.

Yates, Clapper and Brennan argued for briefing the incoming administration so the new president could decide how to deal with the matter. The officials discussed options, including telling Pence, the incoming White House counsel, the incoming chief of staff or Trump himself.

FBI Director James B. Comey initially opposed notification, citing concerns that it could complicate the agency’s ­investigation.

Clapper and Brennan left their positions when Trump was sworn in, but Yates stayed on as acting attorney general until Jan. 30, when Trump fired her for refusing to defend his executive order temporarily barring refugees and people from seven majority-Muslim countries — an action that had been challenged in court.

A turning point came after Jan. 23, when Spicer, in his first official media briefing, again was asked about Flynn’s communications with Kislyak. Spicer said that he had talked to Flynn about the issue “again last night.” There was just “one call,” Spicer said. And it covered four subjects: a plane crash that claimed the lives of a Russian military choir; Christmas greetings; Russian-led talks over the Syrian civil war; and the logistics of setting up a call between Putin and Trump. Spicer said that was the extent of the conversation.

Yates again raised the issue with Comey, who now backed away from his opposition to informing the White House. Yates and the senior career national security official spoke to McGahn, the White House counsel, who didn’t respond Monday to a request for comment.


2)  Mike Flynn Was Probed by FBI Over Calls With Russian Official

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mike-flynn-was-probed-by-fbi-over-calls-with-russian-official-1487123221


Thanks for posting yesterday's news...but where is it that say's :

Director Comey claimed the call was illegal?
 
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It's worth nothing that RNC was also hacked but no information was leaked.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/comey-republicans-hacked-russia/

FBI director James Comey told a Senate panel that there was "penetration on the Republican side of the aisle and old Republican National Committee domains" no longer in use. Republicans have previously denied their organizations were hacked.

Comey later added that "there was evidence of hacking directed at state-level organizations, state-level campaigns, and the RNC, but old domains of the RNC, meaning old emails they weren't using. None of that was released."

Comey said there was no sign "that the Trump campaign or the current RNC was successfully hacked."
Asked by Sen. Mark Warner, a Virginia Democrat, whether the hacker had the ability to selectively leak that old information, Comey indicated that they did.
Comey also said that the Russians "got far deeper and wider into the (Democratic National Committee) than the RNC," adding that "similar techniques were used in both cases."

There were frequent questions about ties between the Trump campaign and Russia during the hearing. Earlier on, Comey refused to comment on whether the FBI is investigating any potential connections.
"I would never comment on investigations," Comey told Sen. Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat who repeatedly pushed the FBI director to release any information it had before Inauguration Day.
"If it doesn't happen before Jan. 20, I'm not sure it's going to happen," Wyden said.


But Sen. Angus King of Maine, an Independent, alluded tartly to Comey's very public statements about investigations into Clinton during the election campaign -- "the irony of you making that statement I cannot avoid."

Comey said that there was a difference between open and closed investigations. He pushed back on King, saying, "You asked me if you have any pending investigations and we're not going to talk about that."
He added that "I'm tone deaf on politics and that's as it should be."   
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



Thanks for posting yesterday's news...but where is it that say's :

Director Comey claimed the call was illegal?

 Stop embarrassing yourself   while you try to spin the following

James Comey knew about Flynn's illegal call to Russian Ambassador for over a month and kept it secret 

I did not state that  

Director Comey claimed the call was illegal <=== You stated this 


 
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FBI Director James B. Comey initially opposed notification, citing concerns that it could complicate the agency’s ­investigation.

James Comey knew about Flynn's illegal call to Russian Ambassador for over a month and kept it secret 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Sabanesque:



stage 1: Pre-election--> "literally Hitler"--(now abandonded) "He will not divide us"(over) ANTIFA attacks Spencer, Andrew Anglin, Milo...to seperate from followers (negative free speech backlash)

stage 2: CURRENTLY-->"incompetent" "chaos" 

uh-huh


stage 3: December 2017 "His promises and programs are in place, but we don't like them"




What are the programs and promises that will be in place in December 2017 ?



 
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glad you asked lisp.

Dakota pipeline.
rescinding parts of the clean water executive decision to stop coal mining.
allowing plants to burn coal (with proper precepts upgrades(need a few kilo tons of palladium and platinum))

The wall to fortify the southern construction paid for by seized drug assets.
deportation of Illegal aliens from sanctuary cities.
The reappointments to the 9th circuit appeals courts.

you all need a good lesson when benevolent mother tells you this is your candidate and vote for her .
you will....




 
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

glad you asked lisp.

Dakota pipeline.
rescinding parts of the clean water executive decision to stop coal mining.
allowing plants to burn coal (with proper precepts upgrades(need a few kilo tons of palladium and platinum))

The wall to fortify the southern construction paid for by seized drug assets.
deportation of Illegal aliens from sanctuary cities.
The reappointments to the 9th circuit appeals courts.

you all need a good lesson when benevolent mother tells you this is your candidate and vote for her .
you will....






1) what does "  proper precepts upgrades" mean ?

how does it protect waterways from coal mining waste ?

does it address coal miners safety, health and pension programs 

2) I did not know Mexican cartels drug money will be used to build the wall

did a White House insider tell you that ?

Will Trump call the White Insider a  low-life leaker ? 


 
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Will Trump call the White House Insider a  low-life leaker ? 
 
 
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Fox News' Shep Smith to Trump: You owe the American people answers

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/319985-fox-news-anchor-defends-cnn-reporter-who-asked-about-russia

Fox News anchor Shepard Smith on Thursday criticized President Trump for bashing reporters gathered at a lengthy Thursday press conference, calling on him to answer legitimate questions from news outlets. 

"(Trump) keeps repeating ridiculous throwaway lines that are not true at all and sort of avoiding this issue of Russia as if we're some kind of fools for asking the question. Really?" Smith said. "Your opposition was hacked and the Russians were responsible for it and your people were on the phone with Russia on the same day it was happening and we're fools for asking the questions?"

Trump was repeatedly asked by reporters from different publications about reported conversations between his campaign aides and Russian officials. Trump blasted such stories as "fake news" and berated journalists.

"Russia is fake news. Russia — this is fake news put out by the media," he said at one point.

Trump maintained that he is not aware that any of his campaign aides had any improper communications with Russian officials.

"No sir," Smith continued. "We are not fools for asking this question, and we demand to know the answer to this question. You owe this to the American people. Your supporters will support you either way. If your people were on the phone, what were they saying? We have a right to know, we absolutely do and that you call us fake news and put us down like children for asking these questions on behalf of the American people is inconsequential. The people deserve an answer to this question at very least."

Smith also defended CNN reporter Jim Acosta, who pressed Trump for answers on several points. Acosta and Trump have frequently sparred at past press conferences. Thursday Trump said he was upgrading CNN from "fake news" to "very fake news." 

Smith defended Acosta during the segment Thursday, calling him "an accomplished reporter, a guy I've never met, but a good reporter."

Jim Acosta thanked Smith for his defense in a tweet shortly after the segment aired. 

During Thursday's press conference, Acosta told Trump, "Just for the record, we don't hate you. I don't hate you," as he prefaced his question for the president.

Trump shot back, “Ask [CNN President] Jeff Zucker how he got his job, OK?” adding that CNN’s ratings aren’t “good right now.”

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