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Did National Security Adviser Michael Flynn violate the Logan Act?

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Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

Lol nature. Too bleeping funny! Anyway. Great board the last 2 days. My boss is gone the rest of the week.

sometimes you really have to lead to water and be patient drink water yourself show other animals around can drink the water

because it aint trusting nuttin'
 
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One theory out there. Flynn was used to flush out the moles leftover from Obama and Clinton. Genius if true. Maybe the administration is much smarter than they appear. Will somebody please tell Chuck Schumer to shut up!

The question for me is why would Flynn, who has a background in intelligence, not assume that his calls with the Russian ambassador are being monitored by US intelligence? I don't know if Flynn was used to flush out moles......I'd doubt it but it would answer that question if it's true
 
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Great question iyl16. Don't know. I have to see this play out. The trouble is what to believe.
 
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After thinking about this a little longer iyl16. Flynn agrees to be the fall guy who makes the call/calls to the Russian ambassador knowing his phone is tapped and the call/calls are recorded. He sacrifices himself in order for the administration to find the moles.
 
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see people that research anything
 do not understand plays are designs with probable risk reward analisis.
and in this ever changing dynamic probable out comes must be addressed.

who to blame game we are so infatuate in takes your eye off the ball in a day dream and the football bounces off your helmet. on national tv viewed as live feed and one of those classic gotcha moments....
but see probable out comes are determined and you can bet for or against in insurance probility generated statistical data

when you start writing in this weird form of numbers and symbols and transfer that data to readible formats filled with charts grafts and such.

this a probability not a certainty these could happen and what possible cover story will they throw at this flavor of the day.




 
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Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

After thinking about this a little longer iyl16. Flynn agrees to be the fall guy who makes the call/calls to the Russian ambassador knowing his phone is tapped and the call/calls are recorded. He sacrifices himself in order for the administration to find the moles.

it really hard to show them the talking points or how this concept is achieved for the narratives on the flavor talk show of the day.
when all news they are regurgentated comes through the same (ap) american propaganda filter.

up here sappi fine paer is doing a 165 million expansion to drive another series of machines for packaging material (cardboard)
 
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long schooled conspiracy theorists is prove it false first.

hence the (ap) tag vs the (AFP) tag, why the need for a secondary outlet?
associated press vs associated free press 


 
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Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:


The question for me is why would Flynn, who has a background in intelligence, not assume that his calls with the Russian ambassador are being monitored by US intelligence? I don't know if Flynn was used to flush out moles......I'd doubt it but it would answer that question if it's true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh3xpSJwmk4

ill draw this character this is purpose of discussion and no name calling  


maybe just maybe the russians are trying to monitor key white house figures.?
 
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Nature, You sound 100% after your bout with the flu.

 
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yup NyQuil dayquil vicks rub. 

home three days. phlem gone congestion gone clear good to go back to work... at my real job.
got a few inches of snow
 
 
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Trumpets are clinging to conspiracy theories 

who exactly knew what about Flynn’s conversation with Kislyak and when? 

According to https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2017/02/flynn-resigns-timeline/516594/

Here’s a timeline of what’s been publicly reported:

November 8, 2016: Donald Trump is elected the 45th president of the United States. Flynn, a former Army general who was an early and ardent supporter of the Republican nominee, is expected to get a senior position in the Trump White House.

November 18: Trump names Flynn as his national-security adviser.

December 29: President Obama announced measures, including sanctions, on Russia for its interference in the U.S. election. The sanctions are in addition to those imposed on Moscow following its invasion in 2014 of Ukraine’s Crimea region. Flynn and Kislyak speak that day, The Washington Post reports, citing a Trump transition official. The official says sanctions weren’t discussed. Additionally, CNN reports the Russian ambassador texted Flynn on December 28.

December 30: Russian President Vladimir Putin says Moscow will not retaliate. The Post says that prompted U.S. intelligence analysts to look for reasons why Putin declined to impose his own measures against the U.S. They found, the newspaper reported, Kislyak’s communications, including the phone call, with Flynn. Sally Yates, then the deputy attorney general, found Flynn’s comments in the call “highly significant,” the Post reported.

January 12: David Ignatius, the Post columnist, wrote that Flynn and Kislyak spoke several times on December 29, the day the sanctions were announced. “What did Flynn say, and did it undercut the U.S. sanctions?” Ignatius wrote. He added a Trump transition official told him the calls, which occurred before the U.S. sanctions were announced, did not cover that topic. Ignatius added:

This official later added that Flynn’s initial call was to express condolences to Kislyak after the terrorist killing of the Russian ambassador to Ankara Dec. 19, and that Flynn made a second call Dec. 28 to express condolences for the shoot-down of a Russian plane carrying a choir to Syria. In that second call, Flynn also discussed plans for a Trump-Putin conversation sometime after the inauguration. In addition, a second Trump official said the Dec. 28 call included an invitation from Kislyak for a Trump administration official to visit Kazakhstan for a conference in late January.


January 13: Sean Spicer, the White House spokesman, told reporters in a conference call that Flynn and Kislyak only discussed a post-inauguration call between Trump and Putin. “That was it, plain and simple,” he said.

January 15: Pence, on CBS’s Face the Nation, said Flynn “did not discuss anything having to do with the United States’ decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia.”


 
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January 19: Yates, the deputy attorney general, and senior intelligence officials debated what to do with the information they had on Flynn. The Post reported that FBI Director James Comey argued against notifying Trump administration officials of the communications.  

January 20: Trump was inaugurated; Flynn officially became national-security adviser.

January 23: Spicer told reporters he spoke with Flynn about the issue the previous night (January 22). He said Flynn and the Russian envoy spoke once. They discussed, he said, the Russian plane crash, the Syrian civil war, Christmas, and a call between their two leaders. Yates raised the issue again with Comey, who the Post said dropped his initial opposition to briefing the administration.

January 26: Yates briefed Donald McGahn, the White House counsel, about the conversation, Spicer said Tuesday. (The FBI interviewed Flynn immediately prior to this briefing, the Times reported Tuesday, but it’s unclear what date that interview occurred. The Times added the bureau believes Flynn wasn’t completely forthcoming during the interview.)  The Post reported earlier Tuesday that Yates told McGahn that Flynn had misled Pence and others about the content of his conversations with Kislyak. Flynn, Yates reportedly said, was consequently vulnerable to Russian blackmail. Spicer said McGahn immediately briefed Trump and other senior officials. Trump ordered McGahn to look into whether there was a legal issue, Spicer said. After several days, Spicer said, McGahn concluded there was none. Spicer said the nature of the conversation between Flynn and the Russian envoy was not unusual, but “the president [then] evaluated the trust issue” and concluded there had been an erosion of trust. Explaining the time difference between the time Trump was briefed and the time Flynn resigned, Spicer said he didn’t understand how that was “due process.” Yates, he said, “didn’t come in and say there was an issue. She said, ‘Wanted to give you a heads-up there may be information.’ She could not confirm there was an investigation.”


 
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February 7 and 8: Flynn told the Post he did not discuss the sanctions with Kislyak. A day later, his spokesman told the Post the national security adviser “couldn’t be certain that the topic never came up.”


February 9: NBC News reported Tuesday Pence was only informed of the Justice Department’s warning about Flynn 15 days after Trump and others were told.  


February 10: An unnamed Trump administration official told the Post Pence either misspoke or was misled by Flynn. Further, The New York Times reported that transcripts existed of the conversation. While the alleged content of the conversations was a likely breach of protocol during a presidential transition—and could be a breach of the law—it’s unlikely to lead to any charges against Flynn.


February 11 and 12: When asked about it en route to Mar-a-Lago, Trump replied he was unaware of the controversy. Spicer said Trump was referring only to the Post’s article on the conversation.  Here’s the exchange that took place:


Here is Trump's Air Force One exchange where POTUS says he didn't know about reports re: Flynn and Russian sanctions. (h/t @gregorywallace)


QUESTION: Mr Trump. what do you think of reports -- sorry Mr. President,

What do you make of reports that General Flynn had conversations with the Russians

about sanctions before you were sworn in ?


TRUMP: I don't know about it . I haven't seen it Waht report is that ?


QUESTION: "There are a number of reports"


QUESTION: The Washington Post is reporting that he talked to the Ambassador to Russia before you were inaugurated about the sanctions


TRUMP: I haven't seen that. I'll look at that



Still, Flynn went to Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s Florida retreat, with the president and the Japanese prime minister. He appeared to enjoy Trump’s confidence, and even huddled with the president when news broke of North Korea’s missile launch. Still, there was no public word from Trump over the reports about his national-security adviser.


February 13: Kellyanne Conway, Trump’s counselor, said on MSNBC Flynn enjoyed the president’s confidence. Hours later, Flynn resigned.


February 14: Conway said it was Flynn’s decision to resign; Spicer said Trump asked for Flynn’s resignation.


 
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Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

After thinking about this a little longer iyl16. Flynn agrees to be the fall guy who makes the call/calls to the Russian ambassador knowing his phone is tapped and the call/calls are recorded. He sacrifices himself in order for the administration to find the moles.

Though highly unlikely, it may have gone down exactly as you described.......Maybe we learn more or maybe the story dies
 
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have you ever went to the vice presidents office cause you lied to him. Pence descision to take flint aboard his discussion led to flinns dismisal.
 
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but that topic was held in a public place with public officials paid for by private citizens so of course that discussion will not be availible for public for 70 years... welcome to sundances world.
 
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My world is tough tonight nature. My Fan Duel NBA team sucks.
 
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russell wilson

kevin's back to lebron

big consistent performances.
 
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hmm Comey again ..
 
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Who told Flynn to call the Russian Ambassador ?
 
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Comey knew about Flynn's illegal calls to the  Russians for over a month and kept it secret  
 
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When President Obama (2 terms both popular vote and electoral college) met Putin


#strength

https://s21.postimg.org/pcjvnf613/Obama_Strength.jpg
 
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Man, get help, brah.

Yes, Comey is on our side. Wasn't this clear during the election?

Flynn will be replaced by an even tougher alt-right scoundrel.

#kingdomofkek




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The real story here is not about Flynn ..It is the soft coup against President Trump by certain people in the ‘intelligence agencies....

The NSA is doing the collection on everybody inside the United States. Phone calls. e-mails,internet ..and the CIA and FBI both have access to the NSA’s database.

Some intel personal are leaking Government information to the press to damage President Trump..

e.i... The leaked conversation with the President of Mexico and the President of Australia..now Flynn's conversation with a Russian Ambassador.

These leaks by the intelligence community to the press are damaging to our national security and must be stopped..
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