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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2016 - 5:42 PM ET #101

    Looks like Money was mugged by reality..

    What a testimony to how someone can finally see the light and progress from the dark side.



                
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    Looks like Money was mugged by reality..

    What a testimony to how someone can finally see the light and progress from the dark side.



                
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2016 - 5:44 PM ET #102

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:



    Money on his Mexican wife:

     watch Spanish TV and the Mexican media paints Republican Americans as a racist clan of angry white people with torches and pitch forks. This is the perception of the majority of Hispanics - I believe. 

    My wife born and raised in Mexico - my sisters husband was born and raised in Mexico - when politics is brought up in a large family gathering - the amount of vitriolic hatred for the Republican Party is extremely intense. Every Mexican actor and comedian speaks badly about the Republican Party. 

    Also, many Hispanics come to this country for government assistance programs - so, when you tie together the negative stereotype and the need for entitlements - it exposes the uphill battle that Republicans face trying to garner the Hispanic vote. 

    Money on abortion:

    Killer_B, I'm against government force. Pro-lifers come across as brutal totalitarians. Pro gun people hate when the government uses force to control guns but are fine with the government using totalitarian force when it comes to a woman's right to choose an abortion? That's extremely hypocritical and completely anti-American. Would you be able to tolerate any kind of middle ground on the issue? Sometimes freedom is uncomfortable. 


    This is fun. 
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    Entertaining.  And the fact Sara shows up is confirmation that it is working. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:



    Money on his Mexican wife:

     watch Spanish TV and the Mexican media paints Republican Americans as a racist clan of angry white people with torches and pitch forks. This is the perception of the majority of Hispanics - I believe. 

    My wife born and raised in Mexico - my sisters husband was born and raised in Mexico - when politics is brought up in a large family gathering - the amount of vitriolic hatred for the Republican Party is extremely intense. Every Mexican actor and comedian speaks badly about the Republican Party. 

    Also, many Hispanics come to this country for government assistance programs - so, when you tie together the negative stereotype and the need for entitlements - it exposes the uphill battle that Republicans face trying to garner the Hispanic vote. 

    Money on abortion:

    Killer_B, I'm against government force. Pro-lifers come across as brutal totalitarians. Pro gun people hate when the government uses force to control guns but are fine with the government using totalitarian force when it comes to a woman's right to choose an abortion? That's extremely hypocritical and completely anti-American. Would you be able to tolerate any kind of middle ground on the issue? Sometimes freedom is uncomfortable. 


    This is fun. 
    .


    Entertaining.  And the fact Sara shows up is confirmation that it is working. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2016 - 5:47 PM ET #103

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    Since you are a far right Republican extremist now, I'm going to use your own characterizations of your party.

    Money on Gays and Republicans:

    Reminds me of when I see gayz that are republican and support republican politicians that clearly hate them for existing.

    Money on Blacks and Republicans:

    I know there are bad democrats, rick. Bad people come in many forms. It just happens that there are more bad republicans and more crazies to the right.

    People are weird. It's like when southerners were getting government assistance to build and fix their communities with running water and electricity in the south and southerners voted for the politician that was in favor of stopping the government help all because the man was a racist bigot.

    They would rather not have running water and electricity than except blacks. That's how the GOP, who is the party of the rich, gets poor white trash votes. People are fukked in the head and will vote against themselves.


    https://njeja.org/2014/01/13/dog-whistle-politics/
    Rick, I just finished reading a fascinating book about the history dog-whistle politics. I know you will not read the entire book. It's an excerpt of how democrats and republicans switched parties and how the republican party went from the party of Lincoln to the party of racist whites. 
     
    This short excerpt saves me time from writing a long write up. It explains what I've been saying here on covers for years now. The republican party was once the greatest party in the history of the world, I know this, and was hijacked by the south. Lincoln is responsible for the birth of the civilized era
    My problem is that I know what the republican party has been doing the last 50+ years and is currently is doing.

     One psychotic old man does not change the fact that the republican party has been the bigot-klannparty for over the last 50+ years. I wish the republican party of today was the party of Lincoln. I would have a party to support and the country would be in great shape. I dream of a day when the party of Lincoln is taken away from those who are currently holding it hostage.


    Money on Religion: 

    I just finished reading about the disturbed man. He's a perfect example of why I'm an anti-religionist. Religion does way more harm than good.

    To answer your question - nope. It’s hard for religious folks to keep their religion to themselves. Religion consumes politicians on the right. I like Rand but even he is consumed by religion. 



    Kinda sounds like trump who was a democrat and Clinton supporter and now spews emotional extermist rhetoric. The mindset of the trump supporter is just fascinating 
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    Since you are a far right Republican extremist now, I'm going to use your own characterizations of your party.

    Money on Gays and Republicans:

    Reminds me of when I see gayz that are republican and support republican politicians that clearly hate them for existing.

    Money on Blacks and Republicans:

    I know there are bad democrats, rick. Bad people come in many forms. It just happens that there are more bad republicans and more crazies to the right.

    People are weird. It's like when southerners were getting government assistance to build and fix their communities with running water and electricity in the south and southerners voted for the politician that was in favor of stopping the government help all because the man was a racist bigot.

    They would rather not have running water and electricity than except blacks. That's how the GOP, who is the party of the rich, gets poor white trash votes. People are fukked in the head and will vote against themselves.


    https://njeja.org/2014/01/13/dog-whistle-politics/
    Rick, I just finished reading a fascinating book about the history dog-whistle politics. I know you will not read the entire book. It's an excerpt of how democrats and republicans switched parties and how the republican party went from the party of Lincoln to the party of racist whites. 
     
    This short excerpt saves me time from writing a long write up. It explains what I've been saying here on covers for years now. The republican party was once the greatest party in the history of the world, I know this, and was hijacked by the south. Lincoln is responsible for the birth of the civilized era
    My problem is that I know what the republican party has been doing the last 50+ years and is currently is doing.

     One psychotic old man does not change the fact that the republican party has been the bigot-klannparty for over the last 50+ years. I wish the republican party of today was the party of Lincoln. I would have a party to support and the country would be in great shape. I dream of a day when the party of Lincoln is taken away from those who are currently holding it hostage.


    Money on Religion: 

    I just finished reading about the disturbed man. He's a perfect example of why I'm an anti-religionist. Religion does way more harm than good.

    To answer your question - nope. It’s hard for religious folks to keep their religion to themselves. Religion consumes politicians on the right. I like Rand but even he is consumed by religion. 



    Kinda sounds like trump who was a democrat and Clinton supporter and now spews emotional extermist rhetoric. The mindset of the trump supporter is just fascinating 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2016 - 6:02 PM ET #104

    Overall, the CDC said, 47,055 people died from drug overdoses in 2014. That was the same total released by the National Center for Health Statistics, which put out its data last week. Overdose fatalities from heroin alone have more than tripled since 2010, reaching 10,574 last year.

    West Virginia, New Mexico, New Hampshire, Kentucky and Ohio had the highest rates of drug overdose deaths per 100,000 people. North Dakota, New Hampshire, Maine, New Mexico and Alabama saw the largest increases in their death rates.



    50,000 a year die from OD in republican states, yet no one bats an eye. have a nice life you people have no clue whats going on.

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    Overall, the CDC said, 47,055 people died from drug overdoses in 2014. That was the same total released by the National Center for Health Statistics, which put out its data last week. Overdose fatalities from heroin alone have more than tripled since 2010, reaching 10,574 last year.

    West Virginia, New Mexico, New Hampshire, Kentucky and Ohio had the highest rates of drug overdose deaths per 100,000 people. North Dakota, New Hampshire, Maine, New Mexico and Alabama saw the largest increases in their death rates.



    50,000 a year die from OD in republican states, yet no one bats an eye. have a nice life you people have no clue whats going on.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2016 - 11:47 PM ET #105

    Between 15,000 and twenty thousand are gunned down another 5000 are murdered by other means add that to 45000 60,000 citizens families are directly involved in gang violence or distribution due to the loss of a loved one. This weeks est is 19 with a day to go in Chicago. Over 46 wounded.
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    Between 15,000 and twenty thousand are gunned down another 5000 are murdered by other means add that to 45000 60,000 citizens families are directly involved in gang violence or distribution due to the loss of a loved one. This weeks est is 19 with a day to go in Chicago. Over 46 wounded.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2016 - 10:38 AM ET #106

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Looks like Money was mugged by reality..

    What a testimony to how someone can finally see the light and progress from the dark side.



                
    I was indoctrinated by liberals since birth. Liberals control pretty much everything. I was lied to by state owned television, state owned Hollywood, state owned media, state owned authors, state owned teachers, and state owned professors, the so called “academic-intellectuals”. Everything liberals are taught to believe is a lie. Every single thing liberals believe in is a lie. Every single thing liberals say is a lie. I finally was able to break free from liberal mind control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Looks like Money was mugged by reality..

    What a testimony to how someone can finally see the light and progress from the dark side.



                
    I was indoctrinated by liberals since birth. Liberals control pretty much everything. I was lied to by state owned television, state owned Hollywood, state owned media, state owned authors, state owned teachers, and state owned professors, the so called “academic-intellectuals”. Everything liberals are taught to believe is a lie. Every single thing liberals believe in is a lie. Every single thing liberals say is a lie. I finally was able to break free from liberal mind control.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2016 - 10:53 AM ET #107

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Independent thinking? You’re a brainwashed indoctrinated sheep - a slave of the state - a pompous and smug aristocratic loyalist - loyal to the liberal establishment. I’m a revolutionary, a rebel, a patriot.

    What post did I advocate killing doctors? I never said such a thing. The people who killed those doctors deserve to be executed. I despise George Zimmerman. My post history shows that. 

    I never once celebrated the Orlando massacre. My initial reaction was great sadness when the news broke of that tragedy - once I found out that Islam was responsible - then my emotions turned to furious anger.

    More lies. According to the traditional Muslim outlook, humanity is divided into two groups: the followers of Islam who are called "believers," and all non-Muslims, who are called "infidels." It is the duty of the Muslims to propagate the one true faith - Islam - throughout the world. Should the infidels refuse to embrace Islam, jihad is the means to be used to vanquish them.

    I’m still waiting for you to produce evidence that Christianity is a terrorist religion.
    I’m still waiting for you to produce evidence that Jesus Christ was a terrorist or evil in any way.
    Where are the Christian Jihad quotes?
    Where does it say for Christians to kill in the name of Jesus Christ until all people testify that there is no god but a Christian god and Jesus Christ is the son of god?
    Christianity means those who follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. Islam means submission or to submit. Where is the comparison?

    Muhammad directed Muslims to wage war on other religions and bring them under submission to Islam. Where is the evidence showing Jesus Christ directing Christians to wage war on other religions and bring them under submission to Christianity?

    I can produce a list of 29,234 terrorist attacks in the name of Islam since 9/11. Terrorism in the name of Islam has been going on for 1,394 years. I can add more to the list of Muslim acts of terror because there is a colossal list of terrorist attacks in the name of Islam that predates 2001.

    Come on, Mr. supremely educated liberal. Show me a list of deadly terrorism in the name of Jesus Christ. I doubt you can even produce 10 examples. I struggled to find 7.

    Christians are told to emulate Christ. Muslims are told to emulate Muhammad. That’s a fact. The reason Islam is a terrorist religion is because Muhammad was a terrorist and the Quran is a terrorist textbook.

    The difference between Christianity and Islam starts at the top: Muslims are told that their prophet Muhammad - a slave-owner of women and children, kidnapper, sexual glutton, rapist, pedophile, thief and terrorist killer - is the most "beautiful pattern of conduct" and "example" for mankind to follow (Quran 33:21), as well as the "exalted standard of character" (Quran 68:4). 

    Christians are told to emulate Jesus - a loving and caring pacifist, humanitarian and servant - and "walk, even as he walked" (1 John 2:6).  Unlike Muhammad, who ordered military assaults against Christians, for example, Jesus told his followers not to resort to violence and to pray for one's enemies.

    Where is the evidence that Jesus Christ was a Militant killer - a slave owner of women and children, kidnapper, thief, pedophile, rapist, murderer, and terrorist killer? Where is the evidence that when Christians commit - extremely rare- acts of terrorism in his name - that those are emulating Jesus Christ?

    I’m looking forward to your well-articulated and well thought-out response to all of my points. For a man of your “education” it shouldn’t be a problem.

    I was looking forward to reading a well-articulated and well-thought-out response addressing everything I said in post #98 but all I got was deflection - straight out of the liberal playbook.

    You boast that you’re this grandiose and highly educated academic-intellectual lawyer. I finally exposed you for what you are - a fraud.

    Wallstreetcappers - you attack me for being childish? My attitude is a direct reflection to djbrow’s childish attitude. I’ve never seen you once call out djbrow for his bullsh1t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    Independent thinking? You’re a brainwashed indoctrinated sheep - a slave of the state - a pompous and smug aristocratic loyalist - loyal to the liberal establishment. I’m a revolutionary, a rebel, a patriot.

    What post did I advocate killing doctors? I never said such a thing. The people who killed those doctors deserve to be executed. I despise George Zimmerman. My post history shows that. 

    I never once celebrated the Orlando massacre. My initial reaction was great sadness when the news broke of that tragedy - once I found out that Islam was responsible - then my emotions turned to furious anger.

    More lies. According to the traditional Muslim outlook, humanity is divided into two groups: the followers of Islam who are called "believers," and all non-Muslims, who are called "infidels." It is the duty of the Muslims to propagate the one true faith - Islam - throughout the world. Should the infidels refuse to embrace Islam, jihad is the means to be used to vanquish them.

    I’m still waiting for you to produce evidence that Christianity is a terrorist religion.
    I’m still waiting for you to produce evidence that Jesus Christ was a terrorist or evil in any way.
    Where are the Christian Jihad quotes?
    Where does it say for Christians to kill in the name of Jesus Christ until all people testify that there is no god but a Christian god and Jesus Christ is the son of god?
    Christianity means those who follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. Islam means submission or to submit. Where is the comparison?

    Muhammad directed Muslims to wage war on other religions and bring them under submission to Islam. Where is the evidence showing Jesus Christ directing Christians to wage war on other religions and bring them under submission to Christianity?

    I can produce a list of 29,234 terrorist attacks in the name of Islam since 9/11. Terrorism in the name of Islam has been going on for 1,394 years. I can add more to the list of Muslim acts of terror because there is a colossal list of terrorist attacks in the name of Islam that predates 2001.

    Come on, Mr. supremely educated liberal. Show me a list of deadly terrorism in the name of Jesus Christ. I doubt you can even produce 10 examples. I struggled to find 7.

    Christians are told to emulate Christ. Muslims are told to emulate Muhammad. That’s a fact. The reason Islam is a terrorist religion is because Muhammad was a terrorist and the Quran is a terrorist textbook.

    The difference between Christianity and Islam starts at the top: Muslims are told that their prophet Muhammad - a slave-owner of women and children, kidnapper, sexual glutton, rapist, pedophile, thief and terrorist killer - is the most "beautiful pattern of conduct" and "example" for mankind to follow (Quran 33:21), as well as the "exalted standard of character" (Quran 68:4). 

    Christians are told to emulate Jesus - a loving and caring pacifist, humanitarian and servant - and "walk, even as he walked" (1 John 2:6).  Unlike Muhammad, who ordered military assaults against Christians, for example, Jesus told his followers not to resort to violence and to pray for one's enemies.

    Where is the evidence that Jesus Christ was a Militant killer - a slave owner of women and children, kidnapper, thief, pedophile, rapist, murderer, and terrorist killer? Where is the evidence that when Christians commit - extremely rare- acts of terrorism in his name - that those are emulating Jesus Christ?

    I’m looking forward to your well-articulated and well thought-out response to all of my points. For a man of your “education” it shouldn’t be a problem.

    I was looking forward to reading a well-articulated and well-thought-out response addressing everything I said in post #98 but all I got was deflection - straight out of the liberal playbook.

    You boast that you’re this grandiose and highly educated academic-intellectual lawyer. I finally exposed you for what you are - a fraud.

    Wallstreetcappers - you attack me for being childish? My attitude is a direct reflection to djbrow’s childish attitude. I’ve never seen you once call out djbrow for his bullsh1t.

     
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    As far as a terrible pedifile kidnapper in Christianity Robert of Normandy fits the description William the conquerer father his mother was the victim. But for Christians such practices have been eradicated for a century. As for Muslims that practice is alive and thriving in daeash caliphate or western Syria and northern Iraq. I can't believe that in the us PC is so rampant that diaciasing many Muslims in Syria Iraq Saudi Arabia Pakistan and Lebanon hate Americans hate our freedom hate that our women and children are equal to men have laws expressing only a marriage of two individuals are recognized. That polygamy slavery aex trafficking
    And multiple wives are not only encouraged but expected for soldiers of jihad expressing faith in Allah.
    And where they hate Americans that completely loath gays lesbians Christians person these are leas than animals and treated as a hideous infection. Of bed bugs. They are burning ppl alive crucified Christian s disemboweled non believers beheaded journalist we don't need to understand them we need to exertiminate them and any nation helping them .
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    As far as a terrible pedifile kidnapper in Christianity Robert of Normandy fits the description William the conquerer father his mother was the victim. But for Christians such practices have been eradicated for a century. As for Muslims that practice is alive and thriving in daeash caliphate or western Syria and northern Iraq. I can't believe that in the us PC is so rampant that diaciasing many Muslims in Syria Iraq Saudi Arabia Pakistan and Lebanon hate Americans hate our freedom hate that our women and children are equal to men have laws expressing only a marriage of two individuals are recognized. That polygamy slavery aex trafficking
    And multiple wives are not only encouraged but expected for soldiers of jihad expressing faith in Allah.
    And where they hate Americans that completely loath gays lesbians Christians person these are leas than animals and treated as a hideous infection. Of bed bugs. They are burning ppl alive crucified Christian s disemboweled non believers beheaded journalist we don't need to understand them we need to exertiminate them and any nation helping them .
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    I was looking forward to reading a well-articulated and well-thought-out response addressing everything I said in post #98 but all I got was deflection - straight out of the liberal playbook.

    You boast that you’re this grandiose and highly educated academic-intellectual lawyer. I finally exposed you for what you are - a fraud.

    Wallstreetcappers - you attack me for being childish? My attitude is a direct reflection to djbrow’s childish attitude. I’ve never seen you once call out djbrow for his bullsh1t.


    The best words you can debate someone with are their own. 

     If that is childish, so be it. I can understand how it may be frustrating for you. Don't worry, plenty more coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    I was looking forward to reading a well-articulated and well-thought-out response addressing everything I said in post #98 but all I got was deflection - straight out of the liberal playbook.

    You boast that you’re this grandiose and highly educated academic-intellectual lawyer. I finally exposed you for what you are - a fraud.

    Wallstreetcappers - you attack me for being childish? My attitude is a direct reflection to djbrow’s childish attitude. I’ve never seen you once call out djbrow for his bullsh1t.


    The best words you can debate someone with are their own. 

     If that is childish, so be it. I can understand how it may be frustrating for you. Don't worry, plenty more coming.
     
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    Well a man from Afghanistan used improvised explosive decides in NY and nj. Well it was a crude firearm I am sure. What stopped him a good guy with a gun.... hmmmm.... how would effective gun laws stop this Muslim terrorist from afghanistan....
    Why did he do it? To create chaos this lunatic did this so Americans would riot against Muslims and these terrorists clerics can say what hypocrites we are how the west is only fair to christians...
    In this game of chess the terrorists main concern is to start open reveling allowing more basically descent people a victim of racism thus a subject to the unfair laws of the West and return sponsoring more terrorist lone wolf actors.
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    Well a man from Afghanistan used improvised explosive decides in NY and nj. Well it was a crude firearm I am sure. What stopped him a good guy with a gun.... hmmmm.... how would effective gun laws stop this Muslim terrorist from afghanistan....
    Why did he do it? To create chaos this lunatic did this so Americans would riot against Muslims and these terrorists clerics can say what hypocrites we are how the west is only fair to christians...
    In this game of chess the terrorists main concern is to start open reveling allowing more basically descent people a victim of racism thus a subject to the unfair laws of the West and return sponsoring more terrorist lone wolf actors.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Well a man from Afghanistan used improvised explosive decides in NY and nj. Well it was a crude firearm I am sure. What stopped him a good guy with a gun.... hmmmm.... how would effective gun laws stop this Muslim terrorist from afghanistan....
    Why did he do it? To create chaos this lunatic did this so Americans would riot against Muslims and these terrorists clerics can say what hypocrites we are how the west is only fair to christians...
    In this game of chess the terrorists main concern is to start open reveling allowing more basically descent people a victim of racism thus a subject to the unfair laws of the West and return sponsoring more terrorist lone wolf actors.

    Well we know the hero is a responsible gun owner with no restraining orders, criminal history, or mental health issues. Seems like he would pass any background check. 

    We know the terrorist would not have passed any background check for guns.

    Tell me again (coherently if possible) why this situation isn't an example of the need for stricter gun laws?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Well a man from Afghanistan used improvised explosive decides in NY and nj. Well it was a crude firearm I am sure. What stopped him a good guy with a gun.... hmmmm.... how would effective gun laws stop this Muslim terrorist from afghanistan....
    Why did he do it? To create chaos this lunatic did this so Americans would riot against Muslims and these terrorists clerics can say what hypocrites we are how the west is only fair to christians...
    In this game of chess the terrorists main concern is to start open reveling allowing more basically descent people a victim of racism thus a subject to the unfair laws of the West and return sponsoring more terrorist lone wolf actors.

    Well we know the hero is a responsible gun owner with no restraining orders, criminal history, or mental health issues. Seems like he would pass any background check. 

    We know the terrorist would not have passed any background check for guns.

    Tell me again (coherently if possible) why this situation isn't an example of the need for stricter gun laws?
     
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    Was this individual a law abiding citizen.
    Then how do new laws work.
    We should as I have stated in numerous posts. Tax bullets. A box of cartridges should cost 100.00 but this individual used ammonium nitrate magnesium powder electronic ignited pressure cooker bomb
    So if laws do not apply to the non law abiding citizen
    How do new laws work ? . This individuals motivation is clear hope he getting interviewed .
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    Was this individual a law abiding citizen.
    Then how do new laws work.
    We should as I have stated in numerous posts. Tax bullets. A box of cartridges should cost 100.00 but this individual used ammonium nitrate magnesium powder electronic ignited pressure cooker bomb
    So if laws do not apply to the non law abiding citizen
    How do new laws work ? . This individuals motivation is clear hope he getting interviewed .
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Was this individual a law abiding citizen.
    Then how do new laws work.
    We should as I have stated in numerous posts. Tax bullets. A box of cartridges should cost 100.00 but this individual used ammonium nitrate magnesium powder electronic ignited pressure cooker bomb
    So if laws do not apply to the non law abiding citizen
    How do new laws work ? . This individuals motivation is clear hope he getting interviewed .

    If the presumption is that we should not have new laws because people will not follow them, why have any new law?

    Why have a new law on voter ID? Why have speeding laws?

    The idea is to make it harder for those that are going to break the law to access the means to do so (in this case guns). 
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Was this individual a law abiding citizen.
    Then how do new laws work.
    We should as I have stated in numerous posts. Tax bullets. A box of cartridges should cost 100.00 but this individual used ammonium nitrate magnesium powder electronic ignited pressure cooker bomb
    So if laws do not apply to the non law abiding citizen
    How do new laws work ? . This individuals motivation is clear hope he getting interviewed .

    If the presumption is that we should not have new laws because people will not follow them, why have any new law?

    Why have a new law on voter ID? Why have speeding laws?

    The idea is to make it harder for those that are going to break the law to access the means to do so (in this case guns). 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    If the presumption is that we should not have new laws because people will not follow them, why have any new law?

    Why have a new law on voter ID? Why have speeding laws?

    The idea is to make it harder for those that are going to break the law to access the means to do so (in this case guns). 



    We don't need new laws as much as we first need enforcement of the existing ones...like in the case of our immigration system we don't need immigration reformed,, till we enforce the immigration laws we already have on the books..we can make all the new laws we want to make and without enforcement that makes people obey those laws ..laws mean nothing..

    In the case of guns ..We have gun laws..but they are broadly under-enforced, ..we should make enforcement a priority...

    But, if we do make new gun laws they should be very specific not vague so prosecutors can hold people accountable...
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    If the presumption is that we should not have new laws because people will not follow them, why have any new law?

    Why have a new law on voter ID? Why have speeding laws?

    The idea is to make it harder for those that are going to break the law to access the means to do so (in this case guns). 



    We don't need new laws as much as we first need enforcement of the existing ones...like in the case of our immigration system we don't need immigration reformed,, till we enforce the immigration laws we already have on the books..we can make all the new laws we want to make and without enforcement that makes people obey those laws ..laws mean nothing..

    In the case of guns ..We have gun laws..but they are broadly under-enforced, ..we should make enforcement a priority...

    But, if we do make new gun laws they should be very specific not vague so prosecutors can hold people accountable...
     
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    First point you brought to the table that is reasonable. Why intact new laws where even demo rats nominee can't live with current laws. Why fire Petreus when the secretary of.state was not.protecting sensitive classified material. If the doj arms drug cartels in Mexico . obviously a non law abiding move can you seriously seek to disarm Americans
    In the bible god spoke in old testament I believe last book malici " you can't keep the old laws why should new burdens be added.
    We can not vet citizens from lawless war torn states for assimilating into America then first we must side with caution. And not allow individuals over the age of eight without documentation.
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    First point you brought to the table that is reasonable. Why intact new laws where even demo rats nominee can't live with current laws. Why fire Petreus when the secretary of.state was not.protecting sensitive classified material. If the doj arms drug cartels in Mexico . obviously a non law abiding move can you seriously seek to disarm Americans
    In the bible god spoke in old testament I believe last book malici " you can't keep the old laws why should new burdens be added.
    We can not vet citizens from lawless war torn states for assimilating into America then first we must side with caution. And not allow individuals over the age of eight without documentation.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:




    We don't need new laws as much as we first need enforcement of the existing ones...like in the case of our immigration system we don't need immigration reformed,, till we enforce the immigration laws we already have on the books..we can make all the new laws we want to make and without enforcement that makes people obey those laws ..laws mean nothing..

    In the case of guns ..We have gun laws..but they are broadly under-enforced, ..we should make enforcement a priority...

    But, if we do make new gun laws they should be very specific not vague so prosecutors can hold people accountable...

    I'm fine with all that. I am fine with specific laws but realistically, I am more concerned with regulations for sale than laws. For example, background checks, no purchase of guns online, mail order, etc. closing gun show loopholes, etc.

    Law abiding citizens will not be denied the right to purchase firearms under these 'intrusions.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:




    We don't need new laws as much as we first need enforcement of the existing ones...like in the case of our immigration system we don't need immigration reformed,, till we enforce the immigration laws we already have on the books..we can make all the new laws we want to make and without enforcement that makes people obey those laws ..laws mean nothing..

    In the case of guns ..We have gun laws..but they are broadly under-enforced, ..we should make enforcement a priority...

    But, if we do make new gun laws they should be very specific not vague so prosecutors can hold people accountable...

    I'm fine with all that. I am fine with specific laws but realistically, I am more concerned with regulations for sale than laws. For example, background checks, no purchase of guns online, mail order, etc. closing gun show loopholes, etc.

    Law abiding citizens will not be denied the right to purchase firearms under these 'intrusions.'
     
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    Great everyone who wishes to purchase a gun goes through a background check.... why wouldn't this be moved to the fn'n ammo. A rifle pistol up to a howitzer 100 mm aircraft Cannon needs bullets. Everyone of these weapons needs a cartridge . So if you are not allowed to purchase a rifle why can you purchase 1000's of rounds without so much as an ID check. I have no problem making any purchase equal to any firearm purchase but a gun is and always will be a club.
    Ammo is the primary concern bullets kill a gun just guides it safely along its way.
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    Great everyone who wishes to purchase a gun goes through a background check.... why wouldn't this be moved to the fn'n ammo. A rifle pistol up to a howitzer 100 mm aircraft Cannon needs bullets. Everyone of these weapons needs a cartridge . So if you are not allowed to purchase a rifle why can you purchase 1000's of rounds without so much as an ID check. I have no problem making any purchase equal to any firearm purchase but a gun is and always will be a club.
    Ammo is the primary concern bullets kill a gun just guides it safely along its way.
     
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    Here is a source of reason. We don't want citizens to smoke do to the costs in health care . We didn't make cigarettes illegal we made them more expensive we applied tax to deter smoking. Then we made them harder for a teen to get them I'd anyone under 35 to I'd everyone for purchase of a.restricted item. As result we have lowered tobacco use in minors and adults. We are driving the numbers down. Same practice can be applied to ammo. But gun control is about as useless as.breasts on a tom cat. Imho.
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    Here is a source of reason. We don't want citizens to smoke do to the costs in health care . We didn't make cigarettes illegal we made them more expensive we applied tax to deter smoking. Then we made them harder for a teen to get them I'd anyone under 35 to I'd everyone for purchase of a.restricted item. As result we have lowered tobacco use in minors and adults. We are driving the numbers down. Same practice can be applied to ammo. But gun control is about as useless as.breasts on a tom cat. Imho.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    I'm fine with all that. I am fine with specific laws but realistically, I am more concerned with regulations for sale than laws. For example, background checks, no purchase of guns online, mail order, etc. closing gun show loopholes, etc.

    Law abiding citizens will not be denied the right to purchase firearms under these 'intrusions.'



    These examples that you mention ,on the surface appear reasonable,but it depends on who it is that defines reasonable..to me all of these intrusions you suggest are gateway regulations,, that will led to expanded regulations..that would inevitably lead to a national registry of firearms..

    It is my belief ,,that you can not legislate or regulate away criminals from getting guns..

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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    I'm fine with all that. I am fine with specific laws but realistically, I am more concerned with regulations for sale than laws. For example, background checks, no purchase of guns online, mail order, etc. closing gun show loopholes, etc.

    Law abiding citizens will not be denied the right to purchase firearms under these 'intrusions.'



    These examples that you mention ,on the surface appear reasonable,but it depends on who it is that defines reasonable..to me all of these intrusions you suggest are gateway regulations,, that will led to expanded regulations..that would inevitably lead to a national registry of firearms..

    It is my belief ,,that you can not legislate or regulate away criminals from getting guns..

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    I'm fine with all that. I am fine with specific laws but realistically, I am more concerned with regulations for sale than laws. For example, background checks, no purchase of guns online, mail order, etc. closing gun show loopholes, etc.

    Law abiding citizens will not be denied the right to purchase firearms under these 'intrusions.'

    Yes the rational point of views is that if you are a law abiding citizen and respsonsible gun owner you should have nothing to fear.  

    To get all emotional over this and saying it is stripping guns from
    Americans and so that there is no second Ammendment and putting guns in the hands of criminals only is just irrational. 

    To think this such a nonsensical manner is silly. Thinking in such extremes and not looking at the fact that these regulations will provide some improvement and save lives in the process as a part of a solution is a product of loss of perspective based in reality and thinking emotionally in a black or white manner 

    Logically however criminals and irresponsible gun owners would vehemently oppose regulations that would make it harder for guns to be in the hands of the wrong  people.  








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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    I'm fine with all that. I am fine with specific laws but realistically, I am more concerned with regulations for sale than laws. For example, background checks, no purchase of guns online, mail order, etc. closing gun show loopholes, etc.

    Law abiding citizens will not be denied the right to purchase firearms under these 'intrusions.'

    Yes the rational point of views is that if you are a law abiding citizen and respsonsible gun owner you should have nothing to fear.  

    To get all emotional over this and saying it is stripping guns from
    Americans and so that there is no second Ammendment and putting guns in the hands of criminals only is just irrational. 

    To think this such a nonsensical manner is silly. Thinking in such extremes and not looking at the fact that these regulations will provide some improvement and save lives in the process as a part of a solution is a product of loss of perspective based in reality and thinking emotionally in a black or white manner 

    Logically however criminals and irresponsible gun owners would vehemently oppose regulations that would make it harder for guns to be in the hands of the wrong  people.  








     
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    Still can't understand a gun is a manufactured machine. A barrel is attached to a receiver that holds a trigger mechanism this ain't even as close in difficulty to construct as a can opener. Bullets however need bronze to make brass. If we make bronze a strategic reserve metal we can artificially increase the cost of brass hence increasing cost of.ammo. Ammo has a shelf life military replaces.ammo every 20 years ammo becomes ineffective due to moisture build up in the smokeless powder hence in this application
    Driving up the cost of ammo will deter criminals from shooting innocent by standers.
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    Still can't understand a gun is a manufactured machine. A barrel is attached to a receiver that holds a trigger mechanism this ain't even as close in difficulty to construct as a can opener. Bullets however need bronze to make brass. If we make bronze a strategic reserve metal we can artificially increase the cost of brass hence increasing cost of.ammo. Ammo has a shelf life military replaces.ammo every 20 years ammo becomes ineffective due to moisture build up in the smokeless powder hence in this application
    Driving up the cost of ammo will deter criminals from shooting innocent by standers.
     
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    The best words you can debate someone with are their own. 

     If that is childish, so be it. I can understand how it may be frustrating for you. Don't worry, plenty more coming.
    It’s not frustrating at all. I find it hilarious. You lost the debate over Islam, when a liberal loses an argument - the liberal playbook calls for sarcasm, humor, psychobabble, lies, and deflection.

    You accepted defeat - so in a desperate attempt to save face - you chose to reach into the liberal bag of tricks and brought up old posts that have no relation to the topic at hand.

    None of the posts you found apply to the debate. You have no counterargument - so you decided to use old posts to deflect the topic. You suck at pretending to be a lawyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    The best words you can debate someone with are their own. 

     If that is childish, so be it. I can understand how it may be frustrating for you. Don't worry, plenty more coming.
    It’s not frustrating at all. I find it hilarious. You lost the debate over Islam, when a liberal loses an argument - the liberal playbook calls for sarcasm, humor, psychobabble, lies, and deflection.

    You accepted defeat - so in a desperate attempt to save face - you chose to reach into the liberal bag of tricks and brought up old posts that have no relation to the topic at hand.

    None of the posts you found apply to the debate. You have no counterargument - so you decided to use old posts to deflect the topic. You suck at pretending to be a lawyer.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    It’s not frustrating at all. I find it hilarious. You lost the debate over Islam, when a liberal loses an argument - the liberal playbook calls for sarcasm, humor, psychobabble, lies, and deflection.


    You accepted defeat - so in a desperate attempt to save face - you chose to reach into the liberal bag of tricks and brought up old posts that have no relation to the topic at hand.

    None of the posts you found apply to the debate. You have no counterargument - so you decided to use old posts to deflect the topic. You suck at pretending to be a lawyer.


    Says the party who says they believe in Adam and eve not Adam and Steve, darn f*gs and their going to hell, god bless America and darn ni**gers, and all minorities, I vote god first, believes the earth is 3,000 years old, hates multiculturalism, and wants to indoctrinate people at gun point. 

    Are against body rights, marriage rights for all regardless of sex, hates social progression, hates social equality, hates science, and hates physics. Pro death of US soldiers for colonialism, money, oil, lithium, minerals, industrialism, and drugs.

    Neo-nazi’s, Neo-confederates, and confederates who believe the south will rise again and the group all seem to vote republican and after all of this preach a belief in a disgusting god and wants a theocratic dictatorship. 

    And if you thought that was stupid enough, you’re wrong, I’ll end it with something funny. Republicans also say don’t steal from my Medicare to support socialized medicine, keep your government hands off my Medicare, keep government out of my Medicare? 

    Yeah, that one smart party you align yourself with. 

    I’d rather align myself with communists than republicans. The only thing republicans say that I agree with is free markets.

    Glenndef62, Liberals do promise exactly what you say to get votes. There is NO denying that but the other side uses hatred, bigotry, and the belief in a cultist theocratic dictatorship to get votes. If you can understand, the democratic side like I can. Why can you acknowledge the republican side as well? I clearly call out both sides of the political spectrum. Why can’t you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    It’s not frustrating at all. I find it hilarious. You lost the debate over Islam, when a liberal loses an argument - the liberal playbook calls for sarcasm, humor, psychobabble, lies, and deflection.


    You accepted defeat - so in a desperate attempt to save face - you chose to reach into the liberal bag of tricks and brought up old posts that have no relation to the topic at hand.

    None of the posts you found apply to the debate. You have no counterargument - so you decided to use old posts to deflect the topic. You suck at pretending to be a lawyer.


    Says the party who says they believe in Adam and eve not Adam and Steve, darn f*gs and their going to hell, god bless America and darn ni**gers, and all minorities, I vote god first, believes the earth is 3,000 years old, hates multiculturalism, and wants to indoctrinate people at gun point. 

    Are against body rights, marriage rights for all regardless of sex, hates social progression, hates social equality, hates science, and hates physics. Pro death of US soldiers for colonialism, money, oil, lithium, minerals, industrialism, and drugs.

    Neo-nazi’s, Neo-confederates, and confederates who believe the south will rise again and the group all seem to vote republican and after all of this preach a belief in a disgusting god and wants a theocratic dictatorship. 

    And if you thought that was stupid enough, you’re wrong, I’ll end it with something funny. Republicans also say don’t steal from my Medicare to support socialized medicine, keep your government hands off my Medicare, keep government out of my Medicare? 

    Yeah, that one smart party you align yourself with. 

    I’d rather align myself with communists than republicans. The only thing republicans say that I agree with is free markets.

    Glenndef62, Liberals do promise exactly what you say to get votes. There is NO denying that but the other side uses hatred, bigotry, and the belief in a cultist theocratic dictatorship to get votes. If you can understand, the democratic side like I can. Why can you acknowledge the republican side as well? I clearly call out both sides of the political spectrum. Why can’t you?

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    The funny thing is there is no right or wrong in the arguments in this thread. You can no more prove your point than invalidate mine. It is simply point and counterpoint. 

    The old Money was actually an articulate debater. He used to point out that guys like the new Money are simply filled with hate. 

    That's who you've become. 
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    The funny thing is there is no right or wrong in the arguments in this thread. You can no more prove your point than invalidate mine. It is simply point and counterpoint. 

    The old Money was actually an articulate debater. He used to point out that guys like the new Money are simply filled with hate. 

    That's who you've become. 
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    The funny thing is there is no right or wrong in the arguments in this thread. You can no more prove your point than invalidate mine. It is simply point and counterpoint. The old Money was actually an articulate debater. He used to point out that guys like the new Money are simply filled with hate. That's who you've become.
    No. There are right and wrong arguments. And I did easily invalidate all your liberal positions.

    1. Liberals like you like to say Islam is just like other religions. I proved that it is not.
    2. Liberals like you say Christianity is just like Islam. I proved that it is not.
    3. Liberals like you say, what about terrorism in the name of Jesus Christ. I proved that it doesn't even exist.
    4. Liberals like you say Islam isn't the source of radical Islamic terrorism. I proved that it clearly is.
    5. Liberals like you say Islam is peaceful. I proved that it is not.
    6. Liberals like you say not all Muslims support terrorism. I proved all Muslims are obligated to support jihad by the way of fighting or by contributing to the spread of Islam.
    7. Liberals like you say Islam isn't a terrorist cult. I proved it is.
    8. Liberals you say Islam isn't trying to establish a worldwide caliphate. I proved Muslims are because it's in the Quran.
    9. Liberals like you say the bible is similar to that Quran. I proved the comparisons are invalid.
    10. I proved islam is a terrorist religion, and is a threat to all humanity.
    11. I proved Muhammad is a monster, and all who worship him are sick.
    12. I proved Islam stands alone.
    13. I proved the comparisons to Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism or any other religion do not apply when compared to Islam.
    14. I proved the comparisons of Muhammad and Jesus Christ don't apply.
    15. I proved every single defense of Islam by liberals is wrong.

    The old me was WRONG! My analysis was based on state establishment liberal lies. I was indoctrinated with liberal propaganda of the state. Debating you is what South Koreans must feel when they debate North Koreans loyal to Kim Jong un.

    I'm not filled with hate. I'm filled with HONOR and patriotism! Give me liberty, or give me death!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    The funny thing is there is no right or wrong in the arguments in this thread. You can no more prove your point than invalidate mine. It is simply point and counterpoint. The old Money was actually an articulate debater. He used to point out that guys like the new Money are simply filled with hate. That's who you've become.
    No. There are right and wrong arguments. And I did easily invalidate all your liberal positions.

    1. Liberals like you like to say Islam is just like other religions. I proved that it is not.
    2. Liberals like you say Christianity is just like Islam. I proved that it is not.
    3. Liberals like you say, what about terrorism in the name of Jesus Christ. I proved that it doesn't even exist.
    4. Liberals like you say Islam isn't the source of radical Islamic terrorism. I proved that it clearly is.
    5. Liberals like you say Islam is peaceful. I proved that it is not.
    6. Liberals like you say not all Muslims support terrorism. I proved all Muslims are obligated to support jihad by the way of fighting or by contributing to the spread of Islam.
    7. Liberals like you say Islam isn't a terrorist cult. I proved it is.
    8. Liberals you say Islam isn't trying to establish a worldwide caliphate. I proved Muslims are because it's in the Quran.
    9. Liberals like you say the bible is similar to that Quran. I proved the comparisons are invalid.
    10. I proved islam is a terrorist religion, and is a threat to all humanity.
    11. I proved Muhammad is a monster, and all who worship him are sick.
    12. I proved Islam stands alone.
    13. I proved the comparisons to Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism or any other religion do not apply when compared to Islam.
    14. I proved the comparisons of Muhammad and Jesus Christ don't apply.
    15. I proved every single defense of Islam by liberals is wrong.

    The old me was WRONG! My analysis was based on state establishment liberal lies. I was indoctrinated with liberal propaganda of the state. Debating you is what South Koreans must feel when they debate North Koreans loyal to Kim Jong un.

    I'm not filled with hate. I'm filled with HONOR and patriotism! Give me liberty, or give me death!"
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