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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2016 - 4:15 PM ET #26

    Democratic party then pushes gun comtrol measures disarming more law abiding citizens promoting more victims. On top of all this responsibilities shift to Republican s they are responsible for not allowing even stiffer him xomtrol measures they are responsible for not increasing general welfare budgets. But a city such as Chicago has not been under Republican leader ship in decDes
    So let's look at a city under Republican leadership. Salt lake city Utah. Him violence non issue drugs good lick finding a joint around town be tough to hey a cup of Joe for that matter



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    Democratic party then pushes gun comtrol measures disarming more law abiding citizens promoting more victims. On top of all this responsibilities shift to Republican s they are responsible for not allowing even stiffer him xomtrol measures they are responsible for not increasing general welfare budgets. But a city such as Chicago has not been under Republican leader ship in decDes
    So let's look at a city under Republican leadership. Salt lake city Utah. Him violence non issue drugs good lick finding a joint around town be tough to hey a cup of Joe for that matter



     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2016 - 4:22 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by mainman11111:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Taking guns from law abiding citizens doesn't seem to be working in Chicago.Law abiding citizens are becoming victims due to police overwhelmed body count say it takes a sharp detectiveteam to solve a homicide with enough evidence to hold up in court. 50 teams just working homicide. But the layers of crime drug dealing robberies assaults rapes arson thefts all rest of the crimes police presence would be at a level of 500000 PD.But it is known the main gangs linked to 86% of all crime. And known it is allowed?... Well who profits Hospitals....
    the funeral homes. caskets galoreits likely the CIA is pushing/giving cash to two or more gang leaders to kill each other. then the CIA kills the gangleaders one by one. this has been their playbook for decades with plenty of criminal organizations.

    Sorry to break this to you CIA is mostly an overseas operation. NSA under Susan Rice stewardship is national security advisor. Homeland security umbrella deals I'm domestic affairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainman11111:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Taking guns from law abiding citizens doesn't seem to be working in Chicago.Law abiding citizens are becoming victims due to police overwhelmed body count say it takes a sharp detectiveteam to solve a homicide with enough evidence to hold up in court. 50 teams just working homicide. But the layers of crime drug dealing robberies assaults rapes arson thefts all rest of the crimes police presence would be at a level of 500000 PD.But it is known the main gangs linked to 86% of all crime. And known it is allowed?... Well who profits Hospitals....
    the funeral homes. caskets galoreits likely the CIA is pushing/giving cash to two or more gang leaders to kill each other. then the CIA kills the gangleaders one by one. this has been their playbook for decades with plenty of criminal organizations.

    Sorry to break this to you CIA is mostly an overseas operation. NSA under Susan Rice stewardship is national security advisor. Homeland security umbrella deals I'm domestic affairs.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2016 - 6:27 PM ET #28

    Can not understand this mental condition. Everyone understands democrats are in control of Chicago's politics. This political operations and policies has led to another year of the war zone violence. And no way the Republican will win control of the city this year or in the near future
    Yet it's not the Democratic party decades of failed policies. It spun now some how gang land violence is the responsibilities lay at the feat of Ryan Mitchell and the USA Congress.
    Somehow inner city wars can be traced to a bad cop response in Ferguson. PR its the tone of the campaign the Republican nominee Trump is running.
    To even more laughable we need to disarm more law abiding citizens with new tough gun laws. Crooks by definition are not law abiding but she howaking more laws will solve the blood bathe
    How many illegals in the ranks of the Spanish Kings? Asking that question is terms to be defined as racist.
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    Can not understand this mental condition. Everyone understands democrats are in control of Chicago's politics. This political operations and policies has led to another year of the war zone violence. And no way the Republican will win control of the city this year or in the near future
    Yet it's not the Democratic party decades of failed policies. It spun now some how gang land violence is the responsibilities lay at the feat of Ryan Mitchell and the USA Congress.
    Somehow inner city wars can be traced to a bad cop response in Ferguson. PR its the tone of the campaign the Republican nominee Trump is running.
    To even more laughable we need to disarm more law abiding citizens with new tough gun laws. Crooks by definition are not law abiding but she howaking more laws will solve the blood bathe
    How many illegals in the ranks of the Spanish Kings? Asking that question is terms to be defined as racist.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2016 - 10:46 PM ET #29

    According to dnainfo,  police dispute the misconception that Chicago has the strictest gun control.   Guns are easy to obtain from outside cities and States with soft gun laws.  Law enforcement is hard for the police.  Chicago mayor and police want tougher sentences.  New York city and Los Angeles have stricter gun control with lower violent crime rate.
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    According to dnainfo,  police dispute the misconception that Chicago has the strictest gun control.   Guns are easy to obtain from outside cities and States with soft gun laws.  Law enforcement is hard for the police.  Chicago mayor and police want tougher sentences.  New York city and Los Angeles have stricter gun control with lower violent crime rate.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2016 - 11:11 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Can not understand this mental condition. Everyone understands democrats are in control of Chicago's politics. This political operations and policies has led to another year of the war zone violence. And no way the Republican will win control of the city this year or in the near future
    Yet it's not the Democratic party decades of failed policies. It spun now some how gang land violence is the responsibilities lay at the feat of Ryan Mitchell and the USA Congress.
    Somehow inner city wars can be traced to a bad cop response in Ferguson. PR its the tone of the campaign the Republican nominee Trump is running.
    To even more laughable we need to disarm more law abiding citizens with new tough gun laws. Crooks by definition are not law abiding but she howaking more laws will solve the blood bathe
    How many illegals in the ranks of the Spanish Kings? Asking that question is terms to be defined as racist.

    Please explain how gun laws disarm law abiding citizens.

    Please also explain how a state like Arizona with tough illegal immigrant laws can have so many illegal immigrants. Unless, of course, they are entering from other states (you know, kind of like how guns may enter Chicago). 

    I look forward to your responses complete with facts, supporting law and/or statistics. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Can not understand this mental condition. Everyone understands democrats are in control of Chicago's politics. This political operations and policies has led to another year of the war zone violence. And no way the Republican will win control of the city this year or in the near future
    Yet it's not the Democratic party decades of failed policies. It spun now some how gang land violence is the responsibilities lay at the feat of Ryan Mitchell and the USA Congress.
    Somehow inner city wars can be traced to a bad cop response in Ferguson. PR its the tone of the campaign the Republican nominee Trump is running.
    To even more laughable we need to disarm more law abiding citizens with new tough gun laws. Crooks by definition are not law abiding but she howaking more laws will solve the blood bathe
    How many illegals in the ranks of the Spanish Kings? Asking that question is terms to be defined as racist.

    Please explain how gun laws disarm law abiding citizens.

    Please also explain how a state like Arizona with tough illegal immigrant laws can have so many illegal immigrants. Unless, of course, they are entering from other states (you know, kind of like how guns may enter Chicago). 

    I look forward to your responses complete with facts, supporting law and/or statistics. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2016 - 12:37 AM ET #31

    You can't have a gun and live in subsidized housing only criminals can have guns in the projects.
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    You can't have a gun and live in subsidized housing only criminals can have guns in the projects.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2016 - 12:38 AM ET #32

    Gun free zones parks playgrounds schools, only bad guys can have a gun in a gun free zone.
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    Gun free zones parks playgrounds schools, only bad guys can have a gun in a gun free zone.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2016 - 12:40 AM ET #33

    From a New York Post article, just for you DL to show what a moron Kaep is. I know there will be no comment because facts are tough to argue over: Kaep should apologize and get educated but maybe the fro is cutting off oxygen to his brain. You and him are being played by the BLM movement and the media that adores stirring sh*t up, especially since President Rainbow came along.

    The facts are these: Last year, the police shot 990 people, the vast majority armed or violently resisting arrest, according to the Washington Post’s database of fatal police shootings. Whites made up 49.9 percent of those victims, blacks 26 percent. That proportion of black victims is lower than what the black violent crime rate would predict.

    Blacks constituted 62 percent of all robbery defendants in America’s 75 largest counties in 2009, 57 percent of all murder defendants and 45 percent of all assault defendants, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, even though blacks comprise only 15 percent of the population in those counties.

    In New York City, where blacks make up 23 percent of the city’s population, blacks commit three-quarters of all shootings and 70 percent of all robberies, according to victims and witnesses in their reports to the NYPD. Whites, by contrast, commit less than 2 percent of all shootings and 4 percent of all robberies, though they are nearly 34 percent of the city’s population.

    In Chicago, 80 percent of all known murder suspects in 2015 were black, as were 80 percent of all known nonfatal shooting suspects, though they’re a little less than a third of the population. Whites made up 0.9 percent of known murder suspects in Chicago in 2015 and 1.4 percent of known nonfatal shooting suspects, though they are about a third of the city’s residents.

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    From a New York Post article, just for you DL to show what a moron Kaep is. I know there will be no comment because facts are tough to argue over: Kaep should apologize and get educated but maybe the fro is cutting off oxygen to his brain. You and him are being played by the BLM movement and the media that adores stirring sh*t up, especially since President Rainbow came along.

    The facts are these: Last year, the police shot 990 people, the vast majority armed or violently resisting arrest, according to the Washington Post’s database of fatal police shootings. Whites made up 49.9 percent of those victims, blacks 26 percent. That proportion of black victims is lower than what the black violent crime rate would predict.

    Blacks constituted 62 percent of all robbery defendants in America’s 75 largest counties in 2009, 57 percent of all murder defendants and 45 percent of all assault defendants, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, even though blacks comprise only 15 percent of the population in those counties.

    In New York City, where blacks make up 23 percent of the city’s population, blacks commit three-quarters of all shootings and 70 percent of all robberies, according to victims and witnesses in their reports to the NYPD. Whites, by contrast, commit less than 2 percent of all shootings and 4 percent of all robberies, though they are nearly 34 percent of the city’s population.

    In Chicago, 80 percent of all known murder suspects in 2015 were black, as were 80 percent of all known nonfatal shooting suspects, though they’re a little less than a third of the population. Whites made up 0.9 percent of known murder suspects in Chicago in 2015 and 1.4 percent of known nonfatal shooting suspects, though they are about a third of the city’s residents.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2016 - 12:46 AM ET #34

    For a decade democrats have stated look to Europe.

    Paris massacre comes to mind, how about Belfast for a century.Brussels subways how did this work in Yugoslavia (Kosovo Serbia Croatia.) you see all these areas were supposed to be devoid of guns and yet criminals got them and used them effectively.

     

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    For a decade democrats have stated look to Europe.

    Paris massacre comes to mind, how about Belfast for a century.Brussels subways how did this work in Yugoslavia (Kosovo Serbia Croatia.) you see all these areas were supposed to be devoid of guns and yet criminals got them and used them effectively.

     

     
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    For a decade democrats have stated look to Europe.

    Paris massacre comes to mind, how about Belfast for a century.Brussels subways how did this work in Yugoslavia (Kosovo Serbia Croatia.) you see all these areas were supposed to be devoid of guns and yet criminals got them and used them effectively.

     

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    For a decade democrats have stated look to Europe.

    Paris massacre comes to mind, how about Belfast for a century.Brussels subways how did this work in Yugoslavia (Kosovo Serbia Croatia.) you see all these areas were supposed to be devoid of guns and yet criminals got them and used them effectively.

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2016 - 12:56 AM ET #36

    So if the government was seriously concerned with this it would be simple to capture the shooters. Here a real time scenario. A call comes in 911 what's your emergency , there been a shooting...

    5 to 10 minute response time shooter was a drive by... no creditable witnesses, next.....

    Where they were in a car, the car doesn't disappear it drives away it goes into grid cam traffic network. That car and those suspects are in that car to wear ever they got out of the car. A few predator drones could cure this goo the footage he camerommjere went there shot these drove to here and currently determine where they are....

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    So if the government was seriously concerned with this it would be simple to capture the shooters. Here a real time scenario. A call comes in 911 what's your emergency , there been a shooting...

    5 to 10 minute response time shooter was a drive by... no creditable witnesses, next.....

    Where they were in a car, the car doesn't disappear it drives away it goes into grid cam traffic network. That car and those suspects are in that car to wear ever they got out of the car. A few predator drones could cure this goo the footage he camerommjere went there shot these drove to here and currently determine where they are....

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    From a New York Post article, just for you DL to show what a moron Kaep is. I know there will be no comment because facts are tough to argue over: Kaep should apologize and get educated but maybe the fro is cutting off oxygen to his brain. You and him are being played by the BLM movement and the media that adores stirring sh*t up, especially since President Rainbow came along.

    The facts are these: Last year, the police shot 990 people, the vast majority armed or violently resisting arrest, according to the Washington Post’s database of fatal police shootings. Whites made up 49.9 percent of those victims, blacks 26 percent. That proportion of black victims is lower than what the black violent crime rate would predict.

    Blacks constituted 62 percent of all robbery defendants in America’s 75 largest counties in 2009, 57 percent of all murder defendants and 45 percent of all assault defendants, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, even though blacks comprise only 15 percent of the population in those counties.

    In New York City, where blacks make up 23 percent of the city’s population, blacks commit three-quarters of all shootings and 70 percent of all robberies, according to victims and witnesses in their reports to the NYPD. Whites, by contrast, commit less than 2 percent of all shootings and 4 percent of all robberies, though they are nearly 34 percent of the city’s population.

    In Chicago, 80 percent of all known murder suspects in 2015 were black, as were 80 percent of all known nonfatal shooting suspects, though they’re a little less than a third of the population. Whites made up 0.9 percent of known murder suspects in Chicago in 2015 and 1.4 percent of known nonfatal shooting suspects, though they are about a third of the city’s residents.


    I don't get why you insist on making these jabs and personal insults on every post. 

    How do you even know my views?  Yet here you all Instulting me and teeing off with personal attacks and saying kaep and I believe the same thing. When do I say anything about blm? 

    Go back and read what i wrote.  Are you comprehending what I am saying? Try and summarize exactly what it is that I am saying. You seem lost and confused as if it ironically you are not getting enough oxygen to the brain.  So rather playing victim yet again with the media or launching these personal attacks, try and follow the conversation. 

    What is it that I am actually saying? Do you get it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    From a New York Post article, just for you DL to show what a moron Kaep is. I know there will be no comment because facts are tough to argue over: Kaep should apologize and get educated but maybe the fro is cutting off oxygen to his brain. You and him are being played by the BLM movement and the media that adores stirring sh*t up, especially since President Rainbow came along.

    The facts are these: Last year, the police shot 990 people, the vast majority armed or violently resisting arrest, according to the Washington Post’s database of fatal police shootings. Whites made up 49.9 percent of those victims, blacks 26 percent. That proportion of black victims is lower than what the black violent crime rate would predict.

    Blacks constituted 62 percent of all robbery defendants in America’s 75 largest counties in 2009, 57 percent of all murder defendants and 45 percent of all assault defendants, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, even though blacks comprise only 15 percent of the population in those counties.

    In New York City, where blacks make up 23 percent of the city’s population, blacks commit three-quarters of all shootings and 70 percent of all robberies, according to victims and witnesses in their reports to the NYPD. Whites, by contrast, commit less than 2 percent of all shootings and 4 percent of all robberies, though they are nearly 34 percent of the city’s population.

    In Chicago, 80 percent of all known murder suspects in 2015 were black, as were 80 percent of all known nonfatal shooting suspects, though they’re a little less than a third of the population. Whites made up 0.9 percent of known murder suspects in Chicago in 2015 and 1.4 percent of known nonfatal shooting suspects, though they are about a third of the city’s residents.


    I don't get why you insist on making these jabs and personal insults on every post. 

    How do you even know my views?  Yet here you all Instulting me and teeing off with personal attacks and saying kaep and I believe the same thing. When do I say anything about blm? 

    Go back and read what i wrote.  Are you comprehending what I am saying? Try and summarize exactly what it is that I am saying. You seem lost and confused as if it ironically you are not getting enough oxygen to the brain.  So rather playing victim yet again with the media or launching these personal attacks, try and follow the conversation. 

    What is it that I am actually saying? Do you get it?
     
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    So those numbers don't spin to your narrative so killer b tone is what you seem to be focused on. Over 1500 dead and its a good thing because the number is lower? 1500 dead and over 20,000 wounded on a year is a war zone. Just because the number is lower or more citizens on new York LA and Chicago to reduce the at risk porpotion. Milwaukee and Baltimore would worse
    What part of a Democratic controlled city and high murder rates is so confusing
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    So those numbers don't spin to your narrative so killer b tone is what you seem to be focused on. Over 1500 dead and its a good thing because the number is lower? 1500 dead and over 20,000 wounded on a year is a war zone. Just because the number is lower or more citizens on new York LA and Chicago to reduce the at risk porpotion. Milwaukee and Baltimore would worse
    What part of a Democratic controlled city and high murder rates is so confusing
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    I don't get why you insist on making these jabs and personal insults on every post. 

    How do you even know my views?  Yet here you all Instulting me and teeing off with personal attacks and saying kaep and I believe the same thing. When do I say anything about blm? 

    Go back and read what i wrote.  Are you comprehending what I am saying? Try and summarize exactly what it is that I am saying. You seem lost and confused as if it ironically you are not getting enough oxygen to the brain.  So rather playing victim yet again with the media or launching these personal attacks, try and follow the conversation. 

    What is it that I am actually saying? Do you get it?

    Where's the insult in my post? Your claim was that Kaep was upsetting bigots... My claim is he's upsetting patriots that believe in the U.S.A. I don't see how that's an insult. Everything is racism and bigots with your posts. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    I don't get why you insist on making these jabs and personal insults on every post. 

    How do you even know my views?  Yet here you all Instulting me and teeing off with personal attacks and saying kaep and I believe the same thing. When do I say anything about blm? 

    Go back and read what i wrote.  Are you comprehending what I am saying? Try and summarize exactly what it is that I am saying. You seem lost and confused as if it ironically you are not getting enough oxygen to the brain.  So rather playing victim yet again with the media or launching these personal attacks, try and follow the conversation. 

    What is it that I am actually saying? Do you get it?

    Where's the insult in my post? Your claim was that Kaep was upsetting bigots... My claim is he's upsetting patriots that believe in the U.S.A. I don't see how that's an insult. Everything is racism and bigots with your posts. 
     
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    Killer_B,you know,,, you can't say anything bad about the BLM movement or you will receive flak.....
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    Killer_B,you know,,, you can't say anything bad about the BLM movement or you will receive flak.....
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:


    Where's the insult in my post? Your claim was that Kaep was upsetting bigots... My claim is he's upsetting patriots that believe in the U.S.A. I don't see how that's an insult. Everything is racism and bigots with your posts. 

    My mistake,  you cleaned up your act in the last post.  I can admit when I misread or misinterpreted something.  It's a part of a civil discussion and being an intelligent human being. 

    Go back and read what I posted tho. Everything is not racism and bigots with my posts.  That is a inaccuarate portrayal and generalization.  It is the this type of all or nothing, emotional black and white thinking that seems to be your trademark.  

    Everything is not racism and bigots with my posts in this forum and even with in this thread, show me in my first post where I said anything about bigots and racism.  I actually said a lot about the topic but did not mention bigots or racism in the first post let alone having everything in that post be about racism and bigots. 

    I also stand by my claim that kaep is upsetting bigots and others.  And mind u the same people that you choose to characterize with your style of emotional all or nothing broad strokes that is your trademark, might also be bigots and may also fall into the other people category.   Plus we have seen on this thread that your ability to be able to label someone else, let alone even understand someone's views is suspect at best.  At least that is what you are showing us. 

    Kaep has got people thinking, kaep has got people talking,  kaep has got bigots and other upset, Kaep is Winning.   I believe that was my point.  Not sure where you're coming up with the rest of your narrative trying to assign things to me inaccurately.  But I guess you have your trademark style that is just so you. Not sure how else to explain it. 

    I was able to admit where I was misinterpreted your post.   Are you man enough to step up and admit where are you wrong?  Or is that also not a part of your trademark style?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:


    Where's the insult in my post? Your claim was that Kaep was upsetting bigots... My claim is he's upsetting patriots that believe in the U.S.A. I don't see how that's an insult. Everything is racism and bigots with your posts. 

    My mistake,  you cleaned up your act in the last post.  I can admit when I misread or misinterpreted something.  It's a part of a civil discussion and being an intelligent human being. 

    Go back and read what I posted tho. Everything is not racism and bigots with my posts.  That is a inaccuarate portrayal and generalization.  It is the this type of all or nothing, emotional black and white thinking that seems to be your trademark.  

    Everything is not racism and bigots with my posts in this forum and even with in this thread, show me in my first post where I said anything about bigots and racism.  I actually said a lot about the topic but did not mention bigots or racism in the first post let alone having everything in that post be about racism and bigots. 

    I also stand by my claim that kaep is upsetting bigots and others.  And mind u the same people that you choose to characterize with your style of emotional all or nothing broad strokes that is your trademark, might also be bigots and may also fall into the other people category.   Plus we have seen on this thread that your ability to be able to label someone else, let alone even understand someone's views is suspect at best.  At least that is what you are showing us. 

    Kaep has got people thinking, kaep has got people talking,  kaep has got bigots and other upset, Kaep is Winning.   I believe that was my point.  Not sure where you're coming up with the rest of your narrative trying to assign things to me inaccurately.  But I guess you have your trademark style that is just so you. Not sure how else to explain it. 

    I was able to admit where I was misinterpreted your post.   Are you man enough to step up and admit where are you wrong?  Or is that also not a part of your trademark style?
     
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    Killer_B

    I used to be a leftist so I know how leftist snobs like DL think. He thinks anything patriotic is white pride. He also thinks calls for secure borders is racist. Mexico has deported more illegal immigrants than the United States. Why isn't Mexico called racist or bigoted. Mexico has some of the most strict immigration laws in the world. Nothing from the left about that. Nothing.

    The United States wants to do the same thing Mexico does and that's racist accounting to liberals. It's insanity. If patriots were motivated by race, the US wouldn't have gone to war with other white people... The British, Russians, Germans etc.
    Leftists think that if white Canadians were crossing illegally and committing crimes that Patriots would just let it side. Leftists are morons.

    Patriots don't care what the race of the invaders, criminals, or enemies are. Patriots hate kaepernick because he is an ignorant anti-American thug. If blaine gabbert was acting like an ignorant anti-American thug, I actually believe the negative reaction would be even worse for him. Kap is getting a pass actually because Americans fear being called racist. Kap is a loser. And he will lose everything in the end. So will all who support him and his fake agenda.

    If BLM was a white anti-police, anti-American terrorist organization, republicans would feel the exact same way. Blatant Aware Racism is mostly a thing of the past. Today how you dress, speak, and carry yourself decide how people judge you. Then the character traits come into the picture.

    Right now, middle easterners, Hispanics and blacks are causing racial tension by their own people's actions. Muslim terrorism, Hispanic gang activity, immigration and disrespect of American laws and values, and black crime/black terrorism have created racial tension. If Islam didn't exist, immigration laws were enforced, and people obeyed the law, there would be no racial tension.

    White people want to move on. I believe white people are exhausted and are suffering from racism fatigue. I don't think racism will ever end as long as the democrats exist. It's what the democrats use to stay in power. Racism is the fuel of the Democratic Party. It's been that way since the parties existence.
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    I used to be a leftist so I know how leftist snobs like DL think. He thinks anything patriotic is white pride. He also thinks calls for secure borders is racist. Mexico has deported more illegal immigrants than the United States. Why isn't Mexico called racist or bigoted. Mexico has some of the most strict immigration laws in the world. Nothing from the left about that. Nothing.

    The United States wants to do the same thing Mexico does and that's racist accounting to liberals. It's insanity. If patriots were motivated by race, the US wouldn't have gone to war with other white people... The British, Russians, Germans etc.
    Leftists think that if white Canadians were crossing illegally and committing crimes that Patriots would just let it side. Leftists are morons.

    Patriots don't care what the race of the invaders, criminals, or enemies are. Patriots hate kaepernick because he is an ignorant anti-American thug. If blaine gabbert was acting like an ignorant anti-American thug, I actually believe the negative reaction would be even worse for him. Kap is getting a pass actually because Americans fear being called racist. Kap is a loser. And he will lose everything in the end. So will all who support him and his fake agenda.

    If BLM was a white anti-police, anti-American terrorist organization, republicans would feel the exact same way. Blatant Aware Racism is mostly a thing of the past. Today how you dress, speak, and carry yourself decide how people judge you. Then the character traits come into the picture.

    Right now, middle easterners, Hispanics and blacks are causing racial tension by their own people's actions. Muslim terrorism, Hispanic gang activity, immigration and disrespect of American laws and values, and black crime/black terrorism have created racial tension. If Islam didn't exist, immigration laws were enforced, and people obeyed the law, there would be no racial tension.

    White people want to move on. I believe white people are exhausted and are suffering from racism fatigue. I don't think racism will ever end as long as the democrats exist. It's what the democrats use to stay in power. Racism is the fuel of the Democratic Party. It's been that way since the parties existence.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2016 - 6:13 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    You can't have a gun and live in subsidized housing only criminals can have guns in the projects.

    O'Reilly? And you have some type of fact to support this assertion? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    You can't have a gun and live in subsidized housing only criminals can have guns in the projects.

    O'Reilly? And you have some type of fact to support this assertion? 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2016 - 6:18 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    For a decade democrats have stated look to Europe.

    Paris massacre comes to mind, how about Belfast for a century.Brussels subways how did this work in Yugoslavia (Kosovo Serbia Croatia.) you see all these areas were supposed to be devoid of guns and yet criminals got them and used them effectively.

     


    Nature

    You are seriously making an argument that gun laws in those countries are not effective because of recent incidents?

    Wow, right wing extremists make some pretty bad arguments but this might be the worst. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    For a decade democrats have stated look to Europe.

    Paris massacre comes to mind, how about Belfast for a century.Brussels subways how did this work in Yugoslavia (Kosovo Serbia Croatia.) you see all these areas were supposed to be devoid of guns and yet criminals got them and used them effectively.

     


    Nature

    You are seriously making an argument that gun laws in those countries are not effective because of recent incidents?

    Wow, right wing extremists make some pretty bad arguments but this might be the worst. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

     If Islam didn't exist, immigration laws were enforced, and people obeyed the law, there would be no racial tension.


    Money, I strongly agree with the majority of your post ... but I take issue with one thing you wrote ...
    You claim that "if Islam didn't exist ... ... ... there would be no racial tension".

    While it is true that militant extremist Muslims are a threat, it is also true that those type of Muslims are a tiny percentage of overall Muslims who practice Islam in the peaceful manner that was intended.

    Your comment is akin to saying that all white people are the cause of racial tension because group members are white 


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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

     If Islam didn't exist, immigration laws were enforced, and people obeyed the law, there would be no racial tension.


    Money, I strongly agree with the majority of your post ... but I take issue with one thing you wrote ...
    You claim that "if Islam didn't exist ... ... ... there would be no racial tension".

    While it is true that militant extremist Muslims are a threat, it is also true that those type of Muslims are a tiny percentage of overall Muslims who practice Islam in the peaceful manner that was intended.

    Your comment is akin to saying that all white people are the cause of racial tension because group members are white 


     
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    "group members" = K-K-K members 
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    "group members" = K-K-K members 
     
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    I disagree with being called a leftist snob when I am not one.  It is always interesting how the labeling and name calling come up even tho I never bring it up at all myself.  

    And then the strawman arguments stating my positions for me that are untrue. Seems to be a real trend now how certain posters claim that I have certain stances or advocate certain things that I have never said and do not believe in. 

    Perhaps it comes from being stuck on certain prescibed talking points that only work against a prescribed opposition.   Perhaps it is purely an emotional manner of constructing reality in that if one feels that it is a certain way than we must assume it be true regardless of if I ever said it or if it is what I believe.  Perhaps it just a tactic to make jabs and attacks rather than actually following the conversation.  

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    I disagree with being called a leftist snob when I am not one.  It is always interesting how the labeling and name calling come up even tho I never bring it up at all myself.  

    And then the strawman arguments stating my positions for me that are untrue. Seems to be a real trend now how certain posters claim that I have certain stances or advocate certain things that I have never said and do not believe in. 

    Perhaps it comes from being stuck on certain prescibed talking points that only work against a prescribed opposition.   Perhaps it is purely an emotional manner of constructing reality in that if one feels that it is a certain way than we must assume it be true regardless of if I ever said it or if it is what I believe.  Perhaps it just a tactic to make jabs and attacks rather than actually following the conversation.  

     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2016 - 7:38 PM ET #48

    Yes DJs only bad guys can have guns in projects federal subsidized rent does not allow guns or smoking on the premises according to Stanford management groups.

     

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    Yes DJs only bad guys can have guns in projects federal subsidized rent does not allow guns or smoking on the premises according to Stanford management groups.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Yes DJs only bad guys can have guns in projects federal subsidized rent does not allow guns or smoking on the premises according to Stanford management groups.

     


    You understand that this is not a 'law' right? 

    And where is this Stanford Management Company you refer to. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Yes DJs only bad guys can have guns in projects federal subsidized rent does not allow guns or smoking on the premises according to Stanford management groups.

     


    You understand that this is not a 'law' right? 

    And where is this Stanford Management Company you refer to. 
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Yes DJs only bad guys can have guns in projects federal subsidized rent does not allow guns or smoking on the premises according to Stanford management groups.
     
    You understand that this is not a 'law' right? And where is this Stanford Management Company you refer to.

    Stanford management is fourth largest rental property management on the world. It is located in Massachusetts I believe mystic towers is managed by Stanford or its subsidiary. The leftist in charge of the organization are Democratic donors in return they able to get property in need of rehabilitation fairly inexpensively Avesta has no weapons policy as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Yes DJs only bad guys can have guns in projects federal subsidized rent does not allow guns or smoking on the premises according to Stanford management groups.
     
    You understand that this is not a 'law' right? And where is this Stanford Management Company you refer to.

    Stanford management is fourth largest rental property management on the world. It is located in Massachusetts I believe mystic towers is managed by Stanford or its subsidiary. The leftist in charge of the organization are Democratic donors in return they able to get property in need of rehabilitation fairly inexpensively Avesta has no weapons policy as well.
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